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Title: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: lordgoata on October 30, 2012, 10:39:59 Someone was hit by a train at Cholsey at 07.26 on the main line this morning. Whilst my thoughts go out to the poor driver and the family, I am intrigued by two things.
Firstly, if it was on the mainline, why are the relief's also closed (and vice versa) - is it simply due to the debris field from the accident and/or the safety aspect of BTP etc being on the lines during the investigation ? Secondly, the police arrived at Goring just after 9am, and evacuated everyone from all the platforms (1-4), even from the public walk way along the edge of platform 1 (which is behind fencing), "for our own safety". Nothing came through during the time we were outside (eventually let in at 09:14 to board the train to Paddington), so I am intrigued as to what was going on there ? I assume it was related to the damaged train in some way? Its the first time I have been so close to the scene of an accident, so I wondered if that was standard procedure for the next station along (there were no police at Pangbourne or Tilehurst for example). Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Mookiemoo on October 30, 2012, 11:12:12 I was on the 0631 from parkway - we got moving about 0815
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Ollie on October 30, 2012, 15:15:23 And now Ealing Broadway...
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: IndustryInsider on October 30, 2012, 15:27:44 Two incidents in one day. Very sad. I think the annual statistics will show a sharp increase in suicides/fatalities this year - especially on our network. Can anything be done?
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Ollie on October 30, 2012, 15:29:54 Two incidents in one day. Very sad. I think the annual statistics will show a sharp increase in suicides/fatalities this year - especially on our network. Can anything be done? Three today as was one in early hours of this morning near Starcross. And just come through that delays through Cheltenham due to suicidal person on a bridge. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Mookiemoo on October 30, 2012, 16:37:08 I can now update and say that the driver of the Cholsey incident is ok.
I was actually on the train behind the one involved (the 0520 off Malvern) and the minute I heard it was the train in front I knew it was our own flying scotsmans train involved. I think I was lucky as I did a half day in work and managed tog et the 1345 out of paddington - which just about got out in the window before the ealing fatality! Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 30, 2012, 18:17:43 Indeed: our sympathy to the driver of the train involved at Cholsey, and to all of the staff dealing with the incident.
Thoughts also for the family and friends of the deceased. :( Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: flyingscotsman on October 30, 2012, 20:13:35 Yes, it was me.......who hit the person at Cholsey.
Delay was caused by the location of fatality......all lines were closed so persons near or about the track could not see the mess. Lines were opened up after one hour, be it only the up and down relief lines.......customers being held up for an hour...which considering the circumstances ...was good. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 30, 2012, 20:23:35 Thanks for posting, flyingscotsman, and best wishes from all of us, I'm sure.
Chris. :( Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Phil on October 30, 2012, 21:13:54 That must be THE most heart-rending post I've read on this or any other forum for a thankfully very long time. My heart goes out to you and your loved ones, flyingscotsman.
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: lordgoata on October 30, 2012, 22:11:01 Yes, it was me.......who hit the person at Cholsey. So sorry to hear that flyingscotsman, I hope it wasn't too traumatic :( Quote Delay was caused by the location of fatality......all lines were closed so persons near or about the track could not see the mess. Lines were opened up after one hour, be it only the up and down relief lines.......customers being held up for an hour...which considering the circumstances ...was good. Thank you for the additional information. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Tim on October 31, 2012, 15:42:15 Two incidents in one day. Very sad. I think the annual statistics will show a sharp increase in suicides/fatalities this year - especially on our network. Can anything be done? Three today as was one in early hours of this morning near Starcross. And just come through that delays through Cheltenham due to suicidal person on a bridge. Anything to do with the clocks going back and the start of winter? I know people suffering from depression can be affected by the weather. Thoughts, as always, with the driver and recovery crew. Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Timmer on October 31, 2012, 16:25:41 Anything to do with the clocks going back and the start of winter? I know people suffering from depression can be affected by the weather. It doesn't help especially given the 'summer' we have just had. No I'm not talking about the amount of rain, more the complete lack of sunshine this year which going into the long winter months is not ideal for those who may suffer from Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: flyingscotsman on October 31, 2012, 18:27:40 I was the driver of the train that hit the person at Cholsey.
To answer your questions. 1. All lines are blocked because at first until can be recognised that it is in deed a fatality, the area becomes a crime scene. 2. For the safety of people who may be on the tracks, BT Police, maybe Beat Police Officers who do not know the workings of the railway and also if there are Paramedics about. 3. There has to be a coroner at the scene to open the investigation as well. 4. People going past on trains seeing what might be a bloody mess might feel ill. 5. Children in the area, maybe going to school on the train, standing at the platform, this may have a lasting effect on them. Why the police moved everybody away from Goring platform, if you were on or about the platform and the train came through covered in blood and guts, would you be happy to be standing there and be pelted by it? Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: animationmilo on November 04, 2012, 01:26:28 Can I be very rude and ask if anyone knows the power cars involved in the fatalities?
Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: flyingscotsman on November 04, 2012, 18:28:44 Can I be very rude and ask if anyone knows the power cars involved in the fatalities? 43026, that was the leading power car i was driving Title: Re: Person hit by train at Cholsey - 30 October 2012 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 20, 2013, 14:19:26 From the Oxford Mail (http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/10365879.Train_driver_tells_of_young_man_s_last_moments/):
Quote Train driver tells of young man's last moments A train driver has described how a man appeared to wave after ^casually^ walking out on the tracks in front of him. In a statement read to Oxfordshire Coroner^s Court on Wednesday, First Great Western employee Raymond Shirley said that Kyle Dawson, 20, lifted his hand ^as if to wave and turned his back towards me^. Oxford-born Mr Dawson, a barman from St Martin^s Street, Wallingford, died instantly at Cholsey Railway Station on the morning of October 30 last year after being hit by the train travelling at 110mph to London Paddington. Oxfordshire Coroner Darren Salter recorded that his death was caused by severe multiple injuries. His two sisters, as well as six other family and friends, attended the emotional inquest. Mr Shirley, an experienced train driver of 34 years, told the hearing through a statement, that Mr Dawson ^casually walked from the platform^. The train, which was travelling from Great Malvern, had stopped at Didcot Railway Station and had picked up speed again. Mr Salter told Mr Dawson^s family and friends: ^I would like to express my condolences for the loss of Kyle at such a young age and in such tragic circumstances.^ The court heard there was not much evidence or history of depression or other mental health issues, although he had spoken to his mother about taking his own life. Mr Salter said: ^We have direct evidence from the train driver about what he observed in terms of those final seconds resulting in Kyle^s death.^ The coroner recorded a verdict that Mr Dawson took his own life. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |