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Title: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: Phantom on March 07, 2018, 11:11:52
Another person struck by a train just outside of Milton station yesterday afternoon
Was the 16:10 from WSM

Sadly there have been a number of child suicides at the same spot in the past 18 months, and believed to be a 15 year old girl from nearby Worle school

RIP


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: rogerw on March 07, 2018, 11:44:36
Our thoughts go out to those affected  :( :(


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: JayMac on March 07, 2018, 16:23:05
It's worth a reminder that cause of death is determined by a coroner. He or she will determine whether such incidents are suicide.

Whilst the police may say that this latest sad incident is 'not suspicious', it isn't a statement of cause.

Echoing rogerw. My thoughts are with all affected.


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 07, 2018, 19:07:53
From the Bristol Post (https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/15-year-old-girl-killed-1307705):

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15-year-old girl killed after being hit by train between Bristol and Weston-super-Mare

A 15-year-old girl was killed after being hit by a train at a level crossing between Weston-super-Mare and Bristol.

At around 4.30pm yesterday (Tuesday, March 6) British Transport Police (BTP) rushed to the Corondale Road level crossing near Weston Milton railway station after reports a person had been hit by a train. Weston Milton is the next stop from Weston-super-Mare towards Bristol.

A BTP spokesman said at the time: “We were called at 4.33pm following reports of a person being struck by a train at Weston Milton railway station.  Officers are still at the scene and that is all the information we have at this stage.”

Today (Wednesday, March 7) it was confirmed a teenage girl died in the incident.

A BTP spokesperson said: "A 15-year-old girl has sadly died after she was struck by a train at Corondale level crossing near Weston-Super-Mare last night.  Officers were called to the line shortly after 4.30pm yesterday evening.

"Her family have been informed of her death and are being supported by specially trained family liaison officers.  Her death is not being treated as suspicious and a file will be prepared for the coroner."

(https://i2-prod.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/article1307959.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/corondaleJPG.jpg)
The Corondale level crossing which is accessible on foot (Image: Google)

There was severe disruption on train services as a result of the incident, with several rush-hour trains heading through Weston-super-Mare to go from Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington being cancelled.

Bristol passengers travelling to Weston-super-Mare and Weston Milton were advised to get off at Worle, where services terminated, and use local bus services.

Great Western Railway (GWR) sent a coach to collect passengers from Weston-super-Mare at about 5.30pm and the disruption did not subside until an hour later.


 :(


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: ChrisB on March 08, 2018, 10:32:28
It's worth a reminder that cause of death is determined by a coroner. He or she will determine whether such incidents are suicide.

Whilst the police may say that this latest sad incident is 'not suspicious', it isn't a statement of cause.

If you read carefully, there was no comment on the cause of *this* death, just previous ones, where the Coroner has presumably already ruled.


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: Alan Pettitt on March 08, 2018, 11:53:29
I feel it rather unfortunate in such a sad time, when the cause of death is yet to be determined, that the Bristol Post web page on this incident is headed by a very large Samaritans video and finishes, after the news article, with three paragraphs about people thinking about taking their own lives and how to contact The Samaritans.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/15-year-old-girl-killed-1307705?utm_source=bristol_post_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=EM_BristolPost_Nletter_Text_Story3&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter&ptnr_mid=5663442&ptnr_rid=1273175&icid=EM_BristolPost_Nletter


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: Phantom on March 08, 2018, 14:16:22
I feel it rather unfortunate in such a sad time, when the cause of death is yet to be determined, that the Bristol Post web page on this incident is headed by a very large Samaritans video and finishes, after the news article, with three paragraphs about people thinking about taking their own lives and how to contact The Samaritans.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/15-year-old-girl-killed-1307705?utm_source=bristol_post_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=EM_BristolPost_Nletter_Text_Story3&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter&ptnr_mid=5663442&ptnr_rid=1273175&icid=EM_BristolPost_Nletter

Without sounding rude, locally it is known what happened and would assume that the local press have caught onto this - certainly doesn't need a coroner a couple of months down the line to confirm what was sadly known

Personally I think that it is the perfect place to put the advert, if any of the girls poor friends and family are reading the article it shows that there is support out there for people, even when they are in the darkest place


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: grahame on March 08, 2018, 16:10:36
I feel it rather unfortunate in such a sad time, when the cause of death is yet to be determined, that the Bristol Post web page on this incident is headed by a very large Samaritans video and finishes, after the news article, with three paragraphs about people thinking about taking their own lives and how to contact The Samaritans.

Without sounding rude, locally it is known what happened and would assume that the local press have caught onto this - certainly doesn't need a coroner a couple of months down the line to confirm what was sadly known

Personally I think that it is the perfect place to put the advert, if any of the girls poor friends and family are reading the article it shows that there is support out there for people, even when they are in the darkest place

It may be the case that the family is aware of the "advert" and it might even be that they asked for / encouraged it. That is pure speculation though - purely a possibility.

We don't formally know what happened yet ... and I do recall cases where we have mis-guessed. However, on balance a pointer to the Samaritains is no bad thing in my (personal) view - especially if done with agreement.


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 09, 2018, 01:18:56
Thanks, grahame.

On the Coffee Shop forum, we have an existing topic (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6526.0) which offers general information to all of our readers, including links to organisations who can offer support to anyone who feels they are in a dark place.

Our thoughts and sympathy must be with the family and friends of the deceased girl in this latest very sad incident.

Chris.  :(


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: JayMac on March 09, 2018, 12:18:10
It's worth a reminder that cause of death is determined by a coroner. He or she will determine whether such incidents are suicide.

Whilst the police may say that this latest sad incident is 'not suspicious', it isn't a statement of cause.

If you read carefully, there was no comment on the cause of *this* death, just previous ones, where the Coroner has presumably already ruled.

The OP mentioned this incident and then previous incidents. That suggested a causal link. Please don't question my comprehension.

The OP also states there have been 'a number' of child suicides at this crossing in the past 18 months. I'm struggling to find evidence of even one in that time frame. More then 2 years ago there was another death of a young person at the same crossing. That had a narrative verdict from the coroner.

This is why we should be careful to use the 's' word in these topics, until after the inquests. Even if referring to previous incidents.


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: WelshBluebird on March 12, 2018, 14:10:35
Note this is third hand info, but I was supposed to be travelling from Bath Spa to London on Friday and the train was cancelled due to trespassers on the line. This is one of the few Bath to London services that arrives having passed through the Weston Super Mare / Weston area and the cancellation was around Weston Super Mare. From what was said to one of my work colleagues by passengers who had been on that train (and had to get alternative transport to Bristol for the next London train), they "trespassers" were school children / friends / families trying to pay respects to the poor girl who died  on the Tuesday. Sounds incredibly stupid for them to be around the track where their friend was killed just a few days earlier - fair enough to pay respects but I thought something like that could have been organised alongside GWR and done in a safe manor surely?


Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 12, 2018, 14:17:30
From the Bristol Post (https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/family-pay-heartbreaking-tribute-15-1326846):

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Family pay heartbreaking tribute to 15-year-old girl killed by train

'My heart is broken, you will always be my precious little girl'

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Evie Wright, who died at Corondale crossing

The family of a 15-year-old girl who died after being hit by a train have released a heartbreaking tribute to her life.

Evie Wright was found at Corondale foot crossing in Weston-super-Mare on the afternoon of Tuesday, March 6.

The school girl’s devastated family have released a joint statement thanking the public for their kindness, but asking for privacy to grieve.

“Our beautiful 15-year-old daughter Evie Alicia Wright sadly lost her life after being struck by a train on Tuesday, 6 March,” the family said.

“This is a devastating time for our family and we ask that our privacy is respected and that people are sensitive as to what is being posted on social media.

“We appreciate all of the flowers, cards and gifts that you have all left for Evie.

“We would like you to know your kind notes have comforted us at this sad time.”

A number of flowers, candles and messages of condolence have been left at Corondale foot crossing since Tuesday.

One message on one bunch of roses said: “To my little girl, one red rose for every year you have given me happiness. My heart is broken, you will always be my precious little girl. I am so proud of you and I always will be. Sleep tight, sweetheart.”

Another read: "Evie, a bright, shining star! Forever in our hearts. Lots of love Great Uncle John and Sue."

Another simply said: "Rest in peace gorgeous."

Words written on a candle read: "You will be missed, always in my mind and heart."

Another note signed from "Mr Wood, Miss White and your maths class" was attached to some flowers. It said: "You will be deeply missed in your maths lessons. Thoughts and prayers with your friends and family. Rest in peace."
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Most people who are thinking of taking their own life have shown warning signs beforehand.

These can include becoming depressed, showing sudden changes in behaviour, talking about wanting to die and feelings of hopelessness. These feelings do improve and can be treated.

If you are concerned about someone, or need help yourself, please contact the Samaritans on 116 123.





Title: Re: Sad incident near Weston Milton - person hit by train - 6 Mar 2018
Post by: Phantom on March 13, 2018, 15:25:47
Note this is third hand info, but I was supposed to be travelling from Bath Spa to London on Friday and the train was cancelled due to trespassers on the line. This is one of the few Bath to London services that arrives having passed through the Weston Super Mare / Weston area and the cancellation was around Weston Super Mare. From what was said to one of my work colleagues by passengers who had been on that train (and had to get alternative transport to Bristol for the next London train), they "trespassers" were school children / friends / families trying to pay respects to the poor girl who died  on the Tuesday. Sounds incredibly stupid for them to be around the track where their friend was killed just a few days earlier - fair enough to pay respects but I thought something like that could have been organised alongside GWR and done in a safe manor surely?

I can confirm that you are correct - I have lived very near the spot for a number of years and sadly see first hand the age and number of those affected.
One thing BTP are quick to do is move the flowers etc left from the exact spot and there are concerns about those hanging around and also highlighting what can happen in that area

All very sad
RIP



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