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Title: Class 153's off lease
Post by: devonexpress on June 16, 2018, 12:07:29
Does anyone know when the last Class 153's being to go off lease?


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: grahame on June 16, 2018, 12:16:32
Does anyone know when the last Class 153's being to go off lease?

It's going to be quite a while, as 5 (I believe) are being retained for the indeterminate future.  As crowd-busters added to the 150s, they'll be able to run beyond the end of 2019 even though their toilet will not be wheelchair accessible - the other loo in the train WILL be.

Scenes such as this - however - should not be seen in a further 19 months

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/153333_swi_201806.jpg)


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: grahame on June 16, 2018, 15:50:37
Does anyone know when the last Class 153's being to go off lease?

It's going to be quite a while, as 5 (I believe) are being retained for the indeterminate future. ....

It looks like the Scots may be considering determining where they should go, though ... from The Scotsman (https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/cycle-coaches-to-be-hitched-to-trains-to-ease-bike-crush-1-4755533)

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Transport minister Humza Yousaf said the Scottish Government’s Transport Scotland agency was finalising work with ScotRail to secure five single-carriage class 153 trains.


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: devonexpress on June 16, 2018, 18:43:28
Does anyone know when the last Class 153's being to go off lease?

It's going to be quite a while, as 5 (I believe) are being retained for the indeterminate future.  As crowd-busters added to the 150s, they'll be able to run beyond the end of 2019 even though their toilet will not be wheelchair accessible - the other loo in the train WILL be.

Scenes such as this - however - should not be seen in a further 19 months

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/153333_swi_201806.jpg)

I've heard rumors that all of GWR's are due to go shortly, and that there's nothing left to cover their loss.


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: chuffed on June 16, 2018, 19:28:03
Unsubstantiated rumour that they will be replaced by Chris Grayling and Lord Voldemort....someone will remind me of his real name.... on a gangers trolley dressed in the uniforms of the girls in St Trinians  great train robbery....
We could also have Alastair Sim doing the announcements and Margaret Rutherford in the buffet....but I would not think that passengers of Northern, GTR and GWR would say that it is/was the 'happiest days of their lives'. Or that a slightly dippy Joyce Grenfell would either be writing 'Gossage' on the dusty table in the waiting room or mooning lovestruck after her superior officer (Sammy) in the local constabulary !


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: plymothian on June 17, 2018, 20:06:42
I've heard rumours that all of GWR's are due to go shortly, and that there's nothing left to cover their loss.

Correct.
The Devon Metro alone will lose 6 153s by the summer, it's going to be very cosy.


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: bradshaw on June 17, 2018, 20:18:33
Plans for 5 x Cl153s to run in Scotland next year as cycle and baggage units attached to service trains

https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/cycle-coaches-to-be-hitched-to-trains-to-ease-bike-crush-1-4755533


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: grahame on June 17, 2018, 21:23:35
Plans for 5 x Cl153s to run in Scotland next year as cycle and baggage units attached to service trains

https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/cycle-coaches-to-be-hitched-to-trains-to-ease-bike-crush-1-4755533

Indeed.   The return of the MLV / GLV.  Remembering the 13th coach on 3 x 4CEP on the boat trains!


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: ellendune on June 17, 2018, 21:26:12
Indeed.   The return of the MLV / GLV.  Remembering the 13th coach on 3 x 4CEP on the boat trains!

Can we have a translation please?


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: Western Pathfinder on June 17, 2018, 21:34:55
MLV =motor luggage van ,GLV =Guard luggage van.


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: grahame on June 17, 2018, 21:56:15
Indeed.   The return of the MLV / GLV.  Remembering the 13th coach on 3 x 4CEP on the boat trains!

Can we have a translation please?

Motor Luggage Van - class 419 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_419
Gatwick Luggage Van - class 489 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_489
4CEP - 4 car Corridor ElectroPneumatic units - class 411 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_411

Boat trains Victoria to Folkestone Harbour and Dover Marine.

The MLV has batteries tone uncoupled and run out along the quay.


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: grahame on November 24, 2018, 21:46:51
Plans for 5 x Cl153s to run in Scotland next year as cycle and baggage units attached to service trains

https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/cycle-coaches-to-be-hitched-to-trains-to-ease-bike-crush-1-4755533

Update:

https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/scotrail-plans-new-carriages-for-skis-boards-and-bikes-on-snowsports-express-1-4834650

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Their vivid red and blue livery would herald a new era in train travel for cyclists and snowsports fans, providing much-needed extra space to reach the Highlands by rail. Initial concept designs for Britain’s first carriages reserved for outdoor equipment have been leaked to Scotland on Sunday, showing a multipurpose interior complete with catering galley.

The internal presentation to ScotRail staff details space for 20 bikes in an area which replaces half the seats, with racks at one end for snowboards and skis. The plans show foldable shelving that could be used for other luggage instead. Ministers hope the first of five carriages will enter service next summer, coupled to existing trains. A galley area with bean-to-cup coffee machine and display fridge for sandwiches and cold drinks is also in the designs.

153 as luggage buffets ... wonderful idea for Heart of Wessex too ... probably not such a good idea on the Cornish branches with the slight problem of how you would get cyclists to Liskeard, Par or St Erth in the first place.



Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: phile on November 25, 2018, 09:09:21
The ScR 5 x 153s should be going from Northern and GWRs 5 x 153s should transfer to TFW in May.   Unless anything changes, of course.


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: REVUpminster on April 12, 2019, 21:24:55
Just to round off the topic; The five GWR 153's went to Cardiff on April 1st


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: grahame on October 23, 2019, 19:13:29
From The Scotsman (https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/new-images-of-scotrail-s-uk-first-carriages-for-carrying-cycles-on-highland-routes-unveiled-1-5031537)

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New images of ScotRail's UK-first carriages for carrying cycles on Highland routes unveiled

Specially designed cycle carriages are set to be introduced for the first time in the UK on a Scottish Highland rail route.

ScotRail is transforming five Class 153 trains to carry up to 20 bikes to enhance existing services on the scenic West Highland Line, running from Glasgow to Oban, Fort William and Mallaig.


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: rogerw on October 23, 2019, 20:02:30
From The Scotsman (https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/new-images-of-scotrail-s-uk-first-carriages-for-carrying-cycles-on-highland-routes-unveiled-1-5031537)

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New images of ScotRail's UK-first carriages for carrying cycles on Highland routes unveiled

Specially designed cycle carriages are set to be introduced for the first time in the UK on a Scottish Highland rail route.

ScotRail is transforming five Class 153 trains to carry up to 20 bikes to enhance existing services on the scenic West Highland Line, running from Glasgow to Oban, Fort William and Mallaig.

Detailed article in the latest edition of Modern Railways, on sale tomorrow


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: CyclingSid on October 24, 2019, 10:01:27
More pretty pictures on cycling web site https://road.cc/content/news/267921-scotrail-unveils-forthcoming-west-highland-line-carriages-space-20-bikes (https://road.cc/content/news/267921-scotrail-unveils-forthcoming-west-highland-line-carriages-space-20-bikes)

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Will also be able to carry bulky sports equipment such as ski bags
, what no surf boards?


Title: Re: Class 153's off lease
Post by: grahame on October 24, 2019, 11:24:25
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Will also be able to carry bulky sports equipment such as ski bags
what no surf boards?

The coastline at Beasdale, Arisaig, Morar and Mallaig is pretty rocky - not sure if you can surf there.   Mind you, surfing the Falls of Lorna at Connel Ferry might be fun.



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