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Title: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: swlines on December 14, 2007, 20:14:44
Seeing as I'm having difficult keeping track with what trains are where, how many 150s/153s/158s does the western division of FGW have, and if possible, what numbers? (for the rolling stock pages on swlines).

Tom


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Timmer on December 14, 2007, 20:16:50
Lee or Jim maybe able to help you there on this one.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: vacman on December 14, 2007, 20:24:43
I think the 153's are as follows   305,318,329,361,368,369,370,372,373,377,380,382, 318 is supposed to be going to Northern but don't know if it's gone.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Conner on December 14, 2007, 20:54:50
I noticed a thread about 153 318 and is it still here. I had the misfortune of using it today. A scruffy red thing and even the passengers were complaining of its condition. It was on the 1244 from PLY arrived at PZ late and formed the 1450 back to PLY 11'
down.

318 is still here as FarWest got on it today.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: swlines on December 14, 2007, 21:21:43
Got a list :)

Class 142 (12)
142001
142004
142009
142028
142029
142030
142062
142063
142064
142067
142068
142070

004, 028, 062, 067, 070 Short-Leased until October 2008 to cover for refresh program.

Class 143 (8)
143603
143611
143612
143617
143618
143619
143620
143621

Class 150/1 (2)
150121
150127

Class 150/2 (17)
150219
150221
150232
150233
150234
150238
150239
150243
150244
150246
150247 (Refurbished)
150248
150249
150261
150263
150265
150266

Class 153 (12)
153305
153318
153329
153361
153368
153369
153370
153372
153373
153377
153380
153382

Class 158 (21)
158745
158746
158748 (Refurbished)
158749
158750
158760
158761 (Trial Refurbished)
158762 (Refurbished)
158763
158764
158765
158766
158767
158768
158769
158771
158776
158778
158798 (3-car)


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Mookiemoo on December 14, 2007, 23:51:18
Why does no one ever comment on the 165/166 units

I know they may seem like manna fro heaven for those using 142s but on a three hour journey?


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: swlines on December 14, 2007, 23:53:14
Because the fleet doesn't shuffle around more than a pack of cards? :)


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: dog box on December 15, 2007, 07:47:21
Why does no one ever comment on the 165/166 units

I know they may seem like manna fro heaven for those using 142s but on a three hour journey?

Sorry but most of the stuff down west is far better than a tinny turbo....class 150 any day


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: devon_metro on December 15, 2007, 15:15:42
I have to say, FGW aren't doing badly. Even if it was a 142:

The 1030 PGN-EXM was 4 car
The 1044 PGN-EXD (new service) was two car.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: vacman on December 15, 2007, 15:56:34
I have to say, FGW aren't doing badly. Even if it was a 142:

The 1030 PGN-EXM was 4 car
The 1044 PGN-EXD (new service) was two car.
That is the silver lining to the cloud that at lest there's more capacity now with 142's. 158762 was in Cornwall today, has been refurbished different to 761, with different seats and the CCTV has been fitted.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Conner on December 15, 2007, 17:46:20
I have to say, FGW aren't doing badly. Even if it was a 142:

The 1030 PGN-EXM was 4 car
The 1044 PGN-EXD (new service) was two car.
That is the silver lining to the cloud that at lest there's more capacity now with 142's. 158762 was in Cornwall today, has been refurbished different to 761, with different seats and the CCTV has been fitted.
Yeh, I was lucky enough to get on it. The seats aren't that comfortable, i thought.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: devon_metro on December 15, 2007, 17:51:36
Must be better than a refurb'd HST though?


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Conner on December 15, 2007, 17:53:43
Must be better than a refurb'd HST though?
No. They are the kind that offer back support so that means they have bits that poke out. Also a problem with the train in general was that it vibrated alot.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: vacman on December 15, 2007, 18:14:25
Must be better than a refurb'd HST though?
No. They are the kind that offer back support so that means they have bits that poke out. Also a problem with the train in general was that it vibrated alot.
All 158's vibrate a lot!


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: devon_metro on December 15, 2007, 18:16:49
Must be better than a refurb'd HST though?
No. They are the kind that offer back support so that means they have bits that poke out. Also a problem with the train in general was that it vibrated alot.

Try a Voyager!

Upon stepping off you may be excused for christening it a 'Vomiter'


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Conner on December 15, 2007, 18:17:13
Must be better than a refurb'd HST though?
No. They are the kind that offer back support so that means they have bits that poke out. Also a problem with the train in general was that it vibrated alot.
All 158's vibrate a lot!
The seats where shaking. I don't normally notice that.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Mookiemoo on December 15, 2007, 19:06:31
Must be better than a refurb'd HST though?
No. They are the kind that offer back support so that means they have bits that poke out. Also a problem with the train in general was that it vibrated alot.

Try a Voyager!

Upon stepping off you may be excused for christening it a 'Vomiter'

Or a pendolino!  all that tilting.

Currently sitting in the upper crust at crewe station awaiting arriva trains to ludlow - been to visit dear mother in scouseland and had to suffer a pendolino from liverpool to crewe - the reason I go by train not car is travel sickness - and guess what - I get sick on a pendolino!

Its the main reason I put up with the re-incarnation of Gods Worst Railway and don't go birmingham to Euston - the pendolinos are vomit heaven (and they smell)


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Timmer on December 15, 2007, 19:27:26
Or a pendolino!  all that tilting.

Currently sitting in the upper crust at crewe station awaiting arriva trains to ludlow - been to visit dear mother in scouseland and had to suffer a pendolino from liverpool to crewe - the reason I go by train not car is travel sickness - and guess what - I get sick on a pendolino!

Its the main reason I put up with the re-incarnation of Gods Worst Railway and don't go birmingham to Euston - the pendolinos are vomit heaven (and they smell)
Funny you should say that as I was on a pendolino today and someone was in the vestibule chucking up into buffet car paper bag and that was only just as the train was pulling out of Birmingham! Dear chap must have been quite poorly.

For all its wrongs, there is nothing quite like boarding a FGW HST, even a refurbed one after you've either been shaken to bits by a voyager or tilted by a pendo. An HST carriage seems a positive haven of peace compared to a Voyager...I'm sure they are noiser then being in a 158.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: vacman on December 15, 2007, 19:41:51
Voyager=vomit comet!


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: dog box on December 15, 2007, 21:15:41
add to that lot Adalante.....and everyone is moaning about FGWs 30 yr old inferior rolling stock!!! lol


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Timmer on December 15, 2007, 21:33:57
add to that lot Adalante.....and everyone is moaning about FGWs 30 yr old inferior rolling stock!!! lol
Nothing will replace the HST! I've yet to travel on anything that beats it.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: swlines on December 17, 2007, 03:55:55
add to that lot Adalante.....and everyone is moaning about FGWs 30 yr old inferior rolling stock!!! lol
Nothing will replace the HST! I've yet to travel on anything that beats it.

Never travelled on a class 442 with REP traction motors then? Before the REPs were messed around with, they had 3000hp to a 4 car unit.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Jim on December 23, 2007, 09:18:06
Must be better than a refurb'd HST though?
No. They are the kind that offer back support so that means they have bits that poke out. Also a problem with the train in general was that it vibrated alot.
All 158's vibrate a lot!
The seats where shaking. I don't normally notice that.

158747 - in advertising livery by chance?


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: Conner on December 23, 2007, 09:42:52
Must be better than a refurb'd HST though?
No. They are the kind that offer back support so that means they have bits that poke out. Also a problem with the train in general was that it vibrated alot.
All 158's vibrate a lot!
The seats where shaking. I don't normally notice that.

158747 - in advertising livery by chance?
No it was 158762- a refurblished one with new seats. I quite like 158747- Wessex refurblished it with new seats and lots of tables.


Title: Re: Current 'West' Operational Fleet
Post by: devon_metro on December 23, 2007, 10:08:57
The seats are awful mind, armrests seem to stick up into the air and the pink is just awful IMHO



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