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Title: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: grahame on March 13, 2017, 07:27:47
After my experience yesterday evening, I nominate the Victoria line platform at King's Cross / St Pancras to Platform 1 at St Pancras.   Anyone know of any longer walks between trains supposedly at the same interchange?


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: ChrisB on March 13, 2017, 07:48:42
The Circle/Hammersmith & City to the same platform is further still at St Pancras!


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: grahame on March 13, 2017, 08:03:45
The Circle/Hammersmith & City to the same platform is further still at St Pancras!

Really?  Perhaps because I followed the signs last night ... I felt a LONG way from the Victoria to where the sign set you off for the Piccadilly line then a long way to the Northern passages ... and that's even before coming up out of the tube network.

My plan was to catch the H&C from Paddington to Farringdon and change there ... but although journey planner had offered me a direct service from Paddington to King's Cross, I got to the H&C platforms to find them half-closed; services Edware Road to Hammersmith only.   Thus Bakerloo via Oxford Circus.   

Question - does the journey planner take into account underground engineering works?   Seem to have offered me a service that wasn't running due to planned engineering works last night!

Good job I didn't get to Farringdon anyway because Thameslink was closed, Sunday evening being a quiet time (not !) for travel - thus ...
- long walk at Paddington - Platform 3 to H&C to Bakerloo line
- long walk at Oxford Circus, from southbound Bakerloo / Victoria to Northbound same
- long walk at KX St P,  Victoria line to platforms A/B (found barrier across) to platform 1
which as I had a majorly heavy bag of stuff for this week's course I'm giving was not what I wanted.

Question - Is a National Rail ticket valid for crossing London valid on the 205 bus which is what I should have used!

Anyway - good night's sleep and I'm ready for Linux and Python!   Hotel internet awful - I tried out the timing site you folks have been using on the GWR WiFi and ... it timed out as the response was so slow!


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: ChrisB on March 13, 2017, 08:25:24
The *rail* journeyplanners don't take account of underground engineering works, no - you need to check also on the TfL journeyplanner.

You must have taken the wrong route from Bakerloo southbound to Victoria Northbound - there is a short route that basically simply takes you up & over one tube line - it's less than 5 minutes, probably nearer two.

I don't think rail tickets valid on cross-London transfer include buses, but I'm happy to be corrected as a bus is often easier with heavy luggage.


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: eightf48544 on March 13, 2017, 09:29:20
West Hampstead Thameslink  to WH Jubilee


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: ChrisB on March 13, 2017, 09:41:43
I assume |Grahame was referring to interchanges *within* the same station?


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: Adelante_CCT on March 13, 2017, 10:20:44
Correct, Oxford Circus is simply up the stairs, turn, go across, turn and down the stairs, not far at all.

Regarding St Pancras, once you come up from the Vic line, you need to turn left and go past the H&C entrance and then up to the Midland platforms, the back way you took is handy for Southeastern services.

Numerous possibilities but i would say H&C to P11-P13 would be the longest interchange at STP


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: eightf48544 on March 13, 2017, 10:51:59
Same station undergound Bank DLR to  bank W&C in fact probably any line at Bank to W&C.


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: ChrisB on March 13, 2017, 10:56:52
DLR to W&C must be the longest at Bank?


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: Phil on March 13, 2017, 11:10:54
I walked the two miles between Yeovil Pen Mill and Yeovil Junction once, but I wouldn't recommend it


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: chrisr_75 on March 13, 2017, 11:58:52
I don't recall if it's Warren St changing from Northern to Victoria, or possibly Green Park Picc to Victoria, but one of those interchanges takes you all the way to street level and back down again, so surely must take the award for the longest vertical distance?!


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: ChrisB on March 13, 2017, 12:13:35
Nope - that would be Holborn - Central / Piccadilly lines, I believe. One of the longest escalators on the underground....


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: grahame on March 13, 2017, 12:44:34
I walked the two miles between Yeovil Pen Mill and Yeovil Junction once, but I wouldn't recommend it

And I got off a train at Pilning and my return was from Severn Beach ;-) ...


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: Adelante_CCT on March 13, 2017, 12:56:26
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I don't recall if it's Warren St changing from Northern to Victoria, or possibly Green Park Picc to Victoria.

Yes, Green Park is a bit of a distance. As for Warren Street I changed there by mistake a few weeks back, that really is a long distance.


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: chrisr_75 on March 13, 2017, 13:14:26
Nope - that would be Holborn - Central / Piccadilly lines, I believe. One of the longest escalators on the underground....

Does that take you all the way to the street level? I don't recall ever changing lines there - although Holborn might win on vertical distance, those that particularly stick in my mind are when you end up looking at the street half way through your line change - makes the whole concept of 'underground' seem slightly pointless!


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: ChrisB on March 13, 2017, 13:26:47
All the way to barrier level before descending another escalator to the Piccadilly line.


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: eightf48544 on March 13, 2017, 18:19:09
Another anomoly is what is the longest tube journey between two stations close together.

I vote Warren Street to Euston Sq via Kings Cross, stand in the right place and you can see both stations.


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: Surrey 455 on March 13, 2017, 21:45:44
After my experience yesterday evening, I nominate the Victoria line platform at King's Cross / St Pancras to Platform 1 at St Pancras.   Anyone know of any longer walks between trains supposedly at the same interchange?

I'm sure I recently read somewhere that at Kings X / St Pancras and some others TFL deliberately route you along long corridors so as to avoid congestion on the direct quicker route. The story I read was that it was actually quicker to follow the Way Out signs and then change at street level.


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: Fourbee on March 14, 2017, 10:51:00
This article seems to sum some of it up:

http://www.citymetric.com/transport/why-do-signs-kings-cross-st-pancras-londons-biggest-tube-station-seem-take-you-long-way

I was trying to find the image where someone had written "quick way" on one of the underground station signs to avoid walking along that long corridor. IIRC it was swiftly removed!


Title: Re: Longest walk at an interchange?
Post by: ChrisB on March 14, 2017, 10:55:33
I did Victoria to Northern at Kings Cross last night....for the first & last time. It's miles!

Best do that at Euston I found out.



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