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All across the Great Western territory => Buses and other ways to travel => Topic started by: grahame on February 22, 2018, 08:41:20



Title: Scrapping trams from Birmingham
Post by: grahame on February 22, 2018, 08:41:20
From the Express and Star (https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/birmingham/2018/02/22/midland-metro-tram-fleet-sold-for-scrap--but-two-are-set-for-new-journey/)

Electric rolling stock scrapped at just 20 years old ... seems such a shame.  Would love to have seen some lightweight knitting put up so that they could (perhaps) have run on the Thames Valley branches where speed is not of the essence, and in each case they could be isolated from heavy rail when carrying passengers.

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The original Midland Metro tram fleet has been sold for scrap – but two survivors are set for a new journey

Thirteen Ansaldo T69 trams have been sold for £12,000 via an e-auction by Transport for West Midlands (TfWM), part of the West Midlands Combined Authority (WMCA).

However two from the fleet of 15 put up for auction have been found new homes.

One, Tram 7, has been donated to UK Tram, the British tram industry body. ...



Title: Re: Scrapping trams from Birmingham
Post by: JayMac on February 22, 2018, 08:56:46
Perhaps is a bit optimistic.

Every TV branch station would have required major modification, lowering all platforms, to accept these trams. Signalling systems would need changing. Then there's the staff training. That'll go down well with commuters - more disruption as another rolling stock type is introduced to the TV. And then the suitability of the trams. Speed may not be high on the branches but 43 mph max trams would struggle to match current timings. Then passenger comfort. Just 56 seats, versus around 170 in a two car Turbo.

Not the right solution by a long way for TV branches.


Title: Re: Scrapping trams from Birmingham
Post by: grahame on February 22, 2018, 09:14:36
Perhaps is a bit optimistic.

[snip]

Not the right solution by a long way for TV branches.

Indeed - and I'm sure that if they had been the right solution, someone would have spotted how the jigsaw pieces come together and at least suggested fitting them in.   But if asking "what if" 5 times about different things brings 4 replies of "don't be silly" and one "yes - hadn't though of that - what a good idea" then it's worth asking!


Title: Re: Scrapping trams from Birmingham
Post by: Bmblbzzz on February 22, 2018, 09:19:38
Not even 20 years, only 16: 1998-2014 according to that story. Perhaps we could have had them in Bristol for Mayor Marvin's Marvellous Metro?  :D


Title: Re: Scrapping trams from Birmingham
Post by: grahame on February 22, 2018, 09:35:16
Not even 20 years, only 16: 1998-2014 according to that story. Perhaps we could have had them in Bristol for Mayor Marvin's Marvellous Metro?  :D

Yep - I worded what I wrote carefully - withdrawn after just 16 years in service, stored for 4 years so now 20 years old.



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