Title: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: grahame on April 19, 2012, 19:06:15 I've updated the images on the top right of each page on this website - posting in "Looking forward" because there are some picture there that I hope to be able to take again, some pictures of what might appear in GW land, and some pictures of things we should hope will be purely historic. I'm sure you'll be able to work out which is which ;)
If you click on a picture, it will be displayed larger. Please use the URL you get when doing that to post comment on them! Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: anthony215 on April 19, 2012, 20:11:54 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_00.jpg
Good Photo. Hopefully this will be come a more familiar sight in the next few years i.e. a more regular daytime service and a lot more passengers waiting to board the train on the platform. Something else could we possible the same shot but with a class 165 instead of a class 150? especially when some are freed up from the Thames Valley area after electrification and providing the units can be cleared to work services around the area. Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: grahame on April 19, 2012, 20:58:12 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_00.jpg Good Photo. Hopefully this will be come a more familiar sight in the next few years i.e. a more regular daytime service and a lot more passengers waiting to board the train on the platform. Something else could we possible the same shot but with a class 165 instead of a class 150? especially when some are freed up from the Thames Valley area after electrification and providing the units can be cleared to work services around the area. Thanks - hope we will see more. It's my "home station" so I've got quite a few pictures, including some showing the effect making round trips possible and promoting the service as we did last summer on Sundays and for Santa in December. Most of the other pictures that were taken on 150 / 153 / 158 units are on the line too, during these trials. http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_65.jpg http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_06.jpg http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_50.jpg http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_68.jpg For 165 / 166s to come our way, I understand that the platforms at Trowbridge need to be eased back. The unit(s) trapped out at Newbury when the Upton Nervet (sp?) 'accident' happened went back up via Trowbridge, I understand, but had to pass through Trowbridge at snail's pace. Anybody spotted the two non-UK pictures yet? Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: anthony215 on April 19, 2012, 22:12:38 Well considering FGW want to use some of the displaced class 165's around the Bristol area I wouldnt be to surprised to see them sort out the guage problems around Trowbridge.
Then again perhaps the units which work Cheltenham - Swindon shuttles could be deployed to work between Swindon - Salisbury once there is an hourly London - Cheltenham service. By have the class 165/166's ever run beyond Bedwyn to Westbury on a regular basis? as I was arguing with someone on facebook tonight over it saying the only time a 165 has gone via Westbury was on a railtour from Worcester to Weymouth. Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 20, 2012, 01:02:45 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_26.jpg
That's Bristol Temple Meads, fairly obviously - but what's the apparent attempt to raise one of the paving slabs all about?? :o Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: grahame on April 20, 2012, 07:15:17 That's Bristol Temple Meads, fairly obviously - but what's the apparent attempt to raise one of the paving slabs all about?? :o I selected each of the pictures to represent something ... I can remember most of them. These are all things which the next franchise bidder needs to consider at least to some extent! 85 Diversions during engineering and emergency working, and effect on regular services 58 Ensuring occasional travellers get on the right train 83 Outdoor dining at stations 04 The future of the Sprinters 92 "The Dance" - the connection leaves just as the train with the passengers for it pulls in! 03 The future of the HST 62 Evening out - looking after the customers 46 Keeping people waiting on the platform when the trains already in the station 69 A ststion with no trains due is a wasted resource if people want to travel 60 How to service Bedwyn if electrification ends at Newbury 52 How many staff do we need on a train 20 Maintaining and upgrading while keeping trains running 48 Filling all the trains, all the time 81 Helping unsighted passengers. Operating services along the sea wall. 73 Looking after historic buildings and making modern use of them 33 Weekend overcrowding 00 Short routes, individual services - or joined into longer ones? 16 Use of old trackbeds - bring some back to rail life? 99 Health and safety 31 Electrification 01 Visibility and sighting of signals 64 Provide frequent enough trains to meet the passenger flows available 02 Express all the way, or making regional stops? 49 Enough capacity, please 29 Feeding and watering the customers 34 Platform edges - keeping them safe 19 Running trains through the snow 67 Passengers, the community and the local authorities all want to work to help you 56 The time taken at station stops to unload large crowds 37 Substituting new urban apropriate stock 35 Transferring passengers with international connections 26 Providing surfaces that people can pick up things they drop from 43 Sharing tracks with heritage and special train operators 32 Rebuilding while still running trains 70 Holidaymakers 90 Connections and connection information as soon as you get off the arriving train 14 Sharing stations with your neighbours 74 Providing enough luggage space on trains 42 Run a sensibly timed service and people WILL use it 89 The train as a part of the countryside 75 Occupying the customers while travelling, and providing enough space at their seats too 45 Connecting with busses within towns and cities all around 22 Passenger's onward journeys in London 71 Many trains across the network are due to retire in less than 10 years 54 Don't run trains like buses - two at a time, then a long gap 96 Giving information, but avoiding excessive signage 12 Painting trains so that people know which is theres 94 Vandalism, Fare dodging and other illegal and antisocial matters 66 Community - good publicity with Santa, and capturing the rail customers young 06 Better station facilities 98 Keeping an eye on the hidden spots on the network 40 Payment methods and car parking payment 11 Wide enough and long enough platforms 76 Closing the slam doors at smaller stations 97 Avoiding smooth icy surfaces in winter 47 Providing public toilets which are open when people want to pee or poo 88 Unprotected footpath crossings 51 Looking after the long distance commuter, especially at places near to but not on lines to be electrified 82 Considering the various things people take with them 93 Staff levels - single man operation at unstaffed stations? 77 Providing enough space in station carparks 17 The Sleeper 55 Dealing with crush hour out of London 21 Providing pleasant atmosphere at major stations 10 Wheelchair provision on trains 23 Lighting Stations 27 Providing useful information on information systems 41 The 24 hour railway. People want trains at all hours 59 Helping people find their platform 63 People will move their journey an hour or so - but not much more 05 Overcrowding of existing trains when you improve connections 87 Looking after the boundary fence 30 Providing internet access at stations and on the move 25 Bustitution (and easy transfer bus <-> train in such circumstances) 65 You need nough space on the platform at intermdiate stations for all of the passengers 84 Recycling and other environmental issues 28 Connecting widely around the UK rail network 61 Provide a service for Ramblers, or just run through their walking areas? 08 Market intelligence to predict when trains will be busy 15 Carrying cycles and those with walking sticks 39 Railway PR for the public - what is "a train" to the public? 44 Onward transfers - 80% or people use powered transport at one end of their journey 80 Connections with boats 95 Ensuring the safety of listed structures at an affordable price 78 Running on the same tracks as other passenger train operators 18 Ticket checking - platform one at Paddington 91 Sharing with freight operators 79 Level Crossings 24 Engineering works 86 Redundant facilities - can they be used / what to do with the site 36 Providing nice places to queue A few duplicated and overlapping thoughts in there, and handful of pictures not described, and no doubt many things I have missed out through lack of an illustration to remind me! To see an individual image, look at a URL like this one and replace the "08" with the 2 digit code of your choice: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_08.jpg Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: Rhydgaled on April 20, 2012, 10:07:21 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_11.jpg
That's one very busy platform, did they really all fit on the train? Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: grahame on April 20, 2012, 12:01:36 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_11.jpg That's one very busy platform, did they really all fit on the train? Yes - 5 car train (about 370 seats) with about 500 passengers. That's 135% loading, just within what I understand the DfT guidelines of 140% are. In practise it worked well as there were lots of children sharing seats, and babes left in pushchairs in the doorways. It's the 08:20 (High summer 2011) Swindon to Weymouth service last year. Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: Temple Meads on April 20, 2012, 17:01:10 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_11.jpg That's one very busy platform, did they really all fit on the train? Referring to a certain other thread, did the photographer ask everyones permission to be photographed I wonder? ;) Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: grahame on April 21, 2012, 03:00:14 ... did the photographer ask everyones permission to be photographed ... I know that was written with a "smiley". Look at the other thread and you may be surprised at the answer :D Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: anthony215 on April 21, 2012, 06:13:01 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_45.jpg
Let me guess taken in Weymouth. Speaking of Weymouth the VR which was transfered to south wales to work the open top service in Swansea is to be used again this summer before another vehicles is brought into to replace it. Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: anthony215 on April 21, 2012, 10:14:27 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_19.jpg
I say that is Highbridge & Burnham at night with some snow Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: devon_metro on April 21, 2012, 12:50:40 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_19.jpg I say that is Highbridge & Burnham at night with some snow Looks like Chippenham to me, Burnham doesn't have a huge gap between train and platform Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: anthony215 on April 21, 2012, 14:55:26 Ok maybe chippenham then.
I must admit I havent been through Chippenham for a while so I forgot what the station looked like. Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: grahame on April 21, 2012, 15:13:39 Yes, Weymouth and Chippenham. But that train at Chippenham does call at Burnham later - it's the nasty O'Clock from Paddington that terminates at Exeter at Silly O'Clock in the morning :D
Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: JayMac on April 22, 2012, 18:36:47 http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_89.jpg
HST hide and seek? ;D http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/pickle/ref_98.jpg Pangbourne? Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: grahame on April 22, 2012, 20:10:07 Yes, Pangbourne. And the "hide and seek" is between Thingley Junction and Beanacre. I put that in to represent "trains in the environment" - I suspect we may have some issues with electrification equipment changing the look of some historic sites such as the entrance to Box tunnel for even.
Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: bobm on April 23, 2012, 11:01:51 Yes I must admit I am not looking forward to seeing the wires going through such places as Box Tunnel or over Maidenhead Bridge - but that is the price of progress. As for Beanacre and Melksham there are already quite a few overhead wires - just that the voltage is a bit high to run trains! ;D
Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: grahame on April 23, 2012, 11:39:08 Oh - you mean this ;D :
(http://www.wellho.net/pix/pylonesque.jpg) Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: bobm on April 23, 2012, 12:10:04 That's the ones - and if you take a train from Reading to Basingstoke you can see the other end of some of the cable runs at Bramley!
Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: Rhydgaled on April 23, 2012, 12:17:16 While OHLE can be an eyesore, I've also seen OHLE that doesn't really damage the view very much. I hope they are very careful with the design of the GWML OHLE so it isn't an eyesore.
The very high voltage power lines, and their associated pylons more so, as posted by bobm, however are always horrid. Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: JayMac on April 23, 2012, 18:23:24 The very high voltage power lines, and their associated pylons more so, as posted by bobm, however are always horrid. But they bring the juice to you to enable you to run a device to post on this forum. And no doubt do lots of other things. I'm assuming you're not powering your home fully from renewables or a diesel generator. It's a trade off. We could have high voltage power lines buried in the ground but the costs of doing that are prohibitive. Both the initial capital costs and the maintenance. Cost which will be borne by the end consumer. Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: Rhydgaled on April 23, 2012, 20:36:17 I'm assuming you're not powering your home fully from renewables Sometimes we are, depends how sunny/windy it is ;)There aren't any pylons around here though, electricity is carried on those things which are like slightly-taller telegraph poles with a horizontal bar on top. While they are a little unsightly sometimes, they are much better than pylons. Where a row of pylons is necessary, they could at least design them better (http://syniadau--buildinganindependentwales.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=dancing+with+nature). Where there are so many cables that you have a double-row of pylons, might there be a case for burrying? Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: Btline on April 23, 2012, 20:58:17 Durham Viaduct looks ok with juice.
Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: JayMac on April 24, 2012, 07:35:29 There aren't any pylons around here though, electricity is carried on those things which are like slightly-taller telegraph poles with a horizontal bar on top. While they are a little unsightly sometimes, they are much better than pylons. That'd be local distribution. You wouldn't want 400kV or 275kV on a wooden pole! Title: Re: A new image - or a new set of images? Post by: ellendune on April 24, 2012, 20:09:00 Where a row of pylons is necessary, they could at least design them better. Where there are so many cables that you have a double-row of pylons, might there be a case for burrying? I thought that was the purpose of the recent competition run by National Grid. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |