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Title: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Super Guard on November 04, 2012, 18:56:38
From BBC:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-20197419

A train has derailed on the line between Arbroath and Montrose.

The 08:04 CrossCountry service from Edinburgh to Aberdeen came off the tracks at about 09:45 at Inverkeilor in Angus.

There were 36 passengers on board. No-one was injured but the driver hit his head when the train derailed.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 04, 2012, 20:43:26
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... but the driver hit his head when the train derailed.

That does conjure up a rather amusing image - and I'm glad nobody was hurt in the incident.  :P


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: eightf48544 on November 04, 2012, 22:55:53
Track atlas shows two trailing points at Inverkeilor for an Aberdeen bound train. A crossover and siding.

As trains tend not to derail on trailing points or plain track it becomes a very interesting incident.

Await details with interest.



Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 04, 2012, 23:09:37
With thanks to Super Guard for the original post, I'm merely adding further details here, for the record - from the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-20197419):

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Rail line closed after derailment at Inverkeilor in Angus

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63920000/jpg/_63920474_trainderail0411.jpg)
The front wheels of the train came off the track near the village of Inverkeilor in Angus

A train has derailed on the line between Arbroath and Montrose.

The 08:04 CrossCountry service from Edinburgh to Aberdeen came off the tracks at about 09:45 at Inverkeilor in Angus.

There were 36 passengers on board. No-one was injured but the driver hit his head when the train derailed.

British Transport Police described the incident as "a minor derailment". Services between Dundee and Aberdeen were suspended.

A spokesman for Cross Country said: "The front wheels of the train became derailed but the train remained upright. A full investigation will be undertaken to determine the cause of the incident."

Scotrail said it would provide replacement buses on its services to and from Aberdeen. A spokesman said people should allow extra time for their journey.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: readytostart on November 05, 2012, 16:53:11
Not the best of photos on the BBC, the front end of the leading vehicle was fouling the up line quite badly, the train was handed back from the police around dinner time last night, but No14 points were still being treated as a scene of crime until lunchtime today I believe. From what I hear the initial cause of derailment was a foreign object placed between the points blade and the running rail on the XO. Train travelled around 1/4 mile on an 80mph section of track. Train has now been moved to Montrose and track inspections are taking place.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: JayMac on November 05, 2012, 17:27:23
From what I hear the initial cause of derailment was a foreign object placed between the points blade and the running rail on the XO.

XO?


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: eightf48544 on November 05, 2012, 17:28:17
XO? But bignosenac has beaten me to it!

Number 14 points crossover or siding?

Nasty non the less.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 06, 2012, 16:39:27
An update, from the BBC:

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Angus train derailment 'may have been deliberate'

British Transport Police have said they have uncovered evidence that a train that came off the track near Inverkeilor in Angus may have been deliberately derailed.

Officers searching the scene of the incident have discovered an obstruction, which they believe was placed there deliberately.

The 08.04 CrossCountry Trains service from Edinburgh to Aberdeen came off the tracks at about 10.00 on Sunday.

An investigation has now been launched.

Det Insp Kevin McCormack, of British Transport Police, said: "Fortunately, no-one was seriously injured during the incident and we now believe that the object found at the scene of the derailment must have been put there intentionally by someone. I am therefore anxious to speak with anyone who saw anyone acting suspiciously in the area of Inverkeilor between Saturday night and Sunday morning."

None of the 36 passengers on-board the train at the time of the incident was injured, however, the driver, a 49-year-old man, suffered a minor head knock and was treated by paramedics.

British Transport Police said they are working with their counterparts from Tayside Police and the rail industry to investigate the incident and are carrying out additional high-profile patrols in the area.

An incident vehicle has remained at the scene of the incident, so members of the public can contact officers with any information relevant to the investigation.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: readytostart on November 06, 2012, 21:19:49
From what I hear the initial cause of derailment was a foreign object placed between the points blade and the running rail on the XO.

XO?

Sorry, maybe one for the acronyms page, XO = crossover.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: TonyK on November 06, 2012, 22:07:30
From BBC:

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No-one was injured but the driver hit his head when the train derailed.

Presumably saying "D'oh!"? I'm glad that was the only injury.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: JayMac on November 06, 2012, 22:17:02
Sorry, maybe one for the acronyms page, XO = crossover.

Done!  ;D


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Andypandy on November 15, 2012, 17:49:03
Found on railforum uk was this link to more photos: http://tayrail.smugmug.com/Railways-TaysideandFife/Inverkeilor-Derailment-Sun-4th/26329954_T3z9jD#!i=2194107777&k=4zcwPDP


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: JayMac on November 15, 2012, 18:07:15
From the RAIB (http://www.raib.gov.uk/latest_news/121104_pn_inverkeilor.cfm):

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Train derailment - Inverkeilor, Scotland

On 4 November 2012 at approximately 10:00 hrs, the front bogie of the leading vehicle of the 08:04 hrs CrossCountry Trains service from Edinburgh to Aberdeen derailed in the vicinity of Inverkeilor in Scotland.

RAIB deployed inspectors to site to carry out a preliminary examination of the circumstances.

Having evaluated the evidence from site, the RAIB has concluded that it will not be leading the investigation into the cause of the derailment. Since an obstruction found at the scene is believed to have been placed there deliberately, the RAIB has agreed that the British Transport Police should conduct the ongoing investigation. As is normal in such cases, the evidence obtained by the RAIB during its site activities is to be shared with the BTP.

Further details can be found at the British Transport Police media centre (http://www.btp.presscentre.com/Media-Releases/Train-derailed-at-Inverkeilor-in-Angus-appeal-for-information-1d1f.aspx).


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 15, 2012, 21:16:28
From the British Transport Police press release (http://www.btp.presscentre.com/Media-Releases/Train-derailed-at-Inverkeilor-rail-industry-offers-25-000-reward-for-information-1d44.aspx):

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Train derailed at Inverkeilor - rail industry offers ^25,000 reward for information

The rail industry is offering a reward ^25,000 for information which leads to the arrest and conviction of those believed to be responsible for causing the derailment of a train at Inverkeilor.

The reward is being offered by the operator of the railway infrastructure, Network Rail, and train operators CrossCountry Trains, ScotRail and East Coast, as the British Transport Police (BTP) investigation continues - underlining how seriously the incident is being taken by the industry.

Detective Inspector Kevin McCormack of BTP is reiterating his appeal for anyone with information to get in touch. He said: ^It is hoped that by offering such a substantial reward someone will come forward with information that can help identify those believed to be responsible for such an irresponsible act.^

David Simpson, Network Rail route managing director for Scotland said: ^This incident could have caused a very serious accident on the railway and put lives at risk. We are determined to do everything we can to support the police in their investigation and would encourage anyone with information about this stupid and reckless crime to get in touch immediately.^

Andy Cooper, CrossCountry^s managing director, added: ^We are shocked that someone may have intentionally set out to injure our customers and staff and utterly condemn this criminal act. We urge anyone with information about this incident to contact BTP immediately.^

A team of British Transport Police (BTP) officers continues to work closely with colleagues in Tayside Police. An incident vehicle remains at the scene in Angus and additional high-profile patrols in the area continue.

Around 10.00am on Sunday, 4 November 2012 the front carriage of the 08.04 CrossCountry Trains service from Edinburgh to Aberdeen came off the tracks but remained upright. None of the 36 passengers or two members of staff on-board the train at the time of the incident was seriously injured.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: TonyK on November 19, 2012, 00:00:32
Beggars belief.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 29, 2012, 21:33:41
From the latest British Transport Police press release (http://www.btp.presscentre.com/Media-Releases/Train-derailed-at-Inverkeilor-4-November-2012-appeal-for-youths-to-come-forward-1d7f.aspx):

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Train derailed at Inverkeilor (4 November 2012) - appeal for youths to come forward

British Transport Police (BTP) officers investigating the derailment of a train at Inverkeilor in Angus are keen to trace a group of four youths seen in the area around 7.30pm on Saturday, 3 November 2012 who may have information vital to the investigation.

They are described as ranging from 5^00^ to 5^ in height. One was wearing a grey or light coloured hooded top and trousers. No further description is available.

Detective Chief Inspector Iain Miller, the officer in charge of the enquiry, said: ^The youths were seen walking towards Bryanton House just off the A92. This would have been prior to the bonfire at Inverkeilor, the night before the incident occurred. It is important to trace these youths in order to eliminate them from our enquiries.^

BTP is also appealing for anyone who attended the bonfire to come forward if they have not already done so and officers are asking for anyone who took photographs on the evening to get in touch.

The rail industry reward of ^25,000 remains on offer for anyone who provides information which leads to the arrest and conviction of those responsible for causing the derailment.

During the incident, which occurred around 10.00am on Sunday, 4 November 2012, the front carriage of the 08.04 CrossCountry Trains service from Edinburgh to Aberdeen came off the tracks but remained upright. None of the 36 passengers or two members of staff on-board the train at the time of the incident was seriously injured.

British Transport Police can be contacted on 0800 40 50 40 or information can be given anonymously to the independent charity Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 04, 2012, 17:30:34
A video report (http://news.stv.tv/tayside/203579-train-derailed-in-angus-after-points-were-deliberately-jammed-open/?) from STV News:

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Train derailed in Angus after points were 'deliberately jammed open'

It has been revealed that a train was derailed in Angus after railway points were 'deliberately jammed open'.

The front wheels of the 8.04am CrossCountry train between Edinburgh and Aberdeen came off the tracks at Inverkeilor, between Arbroath and Montrose in Angus, at 9.45am on Sunday, November 4.

The incident caused travel chaos for hundreds of commuters and alternative transport services had to be put on.

None of the 36 passengers on the derailed train were injured but the 49-year-old driver was treated for a minor head injury.

A railways source has confirmed that points, which switch trains from one track to another, were jammed.

British Transport Police (BTP) said on Thursday that they were looking for four youngsters seen near the line the night before the incident.

A ^25,000 reward has been offered by the rail industry to anyone who can help police find those responsible.

Anyone with information can contact police on 0800 40 50 40 or anonymously via Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Trowres on December 04, 2012, 20:44:38
Does anyone know the location / details of these points?

Are they trailing / facing?   Ground frame / detected?


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: readytostart on December 07, 2012, 08:30:01
Does anyone know the location / details of these points?

Are they trailing / facing?   Ground frame / detected?


From what I remember they are facing, controlled from a lever frame box which was switched out at the time.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: eightf48544 on December 07, 2012, 10:32:58
According to my track Atlas (Version 1 - 2 has just been published) the points at Inverkeilor are both trailing for Aberdeen bound trains. XO first then siding. it must have been something big that was used to jam the points as trains don't normally derail crashing trailing points.

Inverkeilor appears to an intermediate box to split the section between Abroath and Usan which  is the start off a single track section over the bridge into Montrose.



Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: readytostart on December 08, 2012, 14:25:29
You're a wee bit out of date with your boxes eightf48544, Usan box and Montrose North are now closed, with Montrose South being brought back into commission controlling the area. Train jumped the rails with the second man side wheel scraping along the running rail of the up line until the train came to a halt. If it had jumped the other way it'd been a lot worse as it would have hit a good couple of solid bridges on it's way to a stand.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: TonyK on December 09, 2012, 00:06:04
You're a wee bit out of date with your boxes eightf48544

Aye, laddie.


Title: Re: XC Voyager is derailed at Inverkeilor in Scotland - 4 November 2012
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 09, 2013, 21:46:47
From the Edinburgh Evening News (http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/25-000-train-delrailment-reward-still-on-offer-1-3180193):

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^25,000 train derailment reward still on offer

A reward of ^25,000 remains on offer for information on the deliberate derailment of an Edinburgh to Aberdeen train last year.

The front carriage of the train was derailed in Angus on Sunday November 4.

British Transport Police launched an investigation after an obstruction was found at the scene of the incident involving the 8.04am service from the Capital.

Network Rail and train operators CrossCountry, ScotRail and East Coast said a ^25,000 reward is still on offer for anyone who comes forward with information which leads to the arrest and conviction of those responsible.

Detective Chief Inspector Iain Miller said: ^Despite the time that has passed since the incident occurred, I am still hopeful that someone will come forward with the piece of information that could help identify those responsible for such an irresponsible act.^

British Transport Police can be contacted on 0800 405 040 or information can be given anonymously to Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.



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