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Title: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: anthony215 on January 29, 2013, 10:39:26
Just seen this posted online:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/search/?medium=tv&channel=&yearweek=&day=

Due to be broadcast on BBC2 with the 1st episode expected to be broadcast sometime between 9th & 15th February. No time has been annouced yet however.

2013 is looking to be a good year for railway documentaries with Sky and Channel 5 both broadcasting documentaries later this year and we have the BBC due to broadcast series 2 of the tube later in the summer


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: the void on January 30, 2013, 08:35:32
on a related note, twofour productions are currently at temple meads filming a documentary series about fwg. don't have any further details, but you'll no doubt see the camera crew if passing through the station...


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: anthony215 on January 30, 2013, 09:14:24
on a related note, twofour productions are currently at temple meads filming a documentary series about fwg. don't have any further details, but you'll no doubt see the camera crew if passing through the station...

That I believe is the same crew who were filing at Reading a few weeks back.

The FGW documentary is expected to be broadcast on channel 5


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: anthony215 on January 30, 2013, 12:21:22
The BBC have annouced episode 1 of ''"The Railway'' wil be broadcast on 12th February at 21:00 and is 60 minutes long.

Some tv Listings are showing it as called Network Rail


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 09, 2013, 20:19:53
From the Model Railway Express Mag (http://www.mremag.com/news/article/bbc-tv--the-railway-keeping-britain-on-track/14549):

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The BBC have confirmed transmission dates for a new series - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track

King's Cross - BBC2 9pm Tues 12th Feb 2013
Summer Madness (Leeds) - BBC2 9pm Tues 19th Feb 2013
Standing Room Only (Reading) - BBC2 9pm Tues 26th Feb 2013
West Coast Main Line - BBC2 9pm Tues 5th March 2013
Railway on My Doorstep (Communities) - BBC2 9pm Tues 12th March 2013
Scotland - BBC2 9pm Tues 19th March 2013

A six-part series of one-hour programmes titled: The Railways: Keeping Britain on Track. on BBC2. Network Rail, TOCs, BTP and suppliers and contractors have all been involved in making this observational documentary, which will shine a light on the people who help keep the railway running, and the challenges they face.

This series has been almost two years in the making following an initial meeting with Network Rail^s media team. They had been approached by a number of documentary makers and decided that the time was right to take a calculated risk and let the BBC in to give the general public, stakeholders and funders, an insiders^ view on the size and complexity of the railway and the challenges faced.

Whilst initial introductions were made to a number of people across the business, the TV production team were free to contact and film with anyone that was happy to be involved. Dozens of people across the industry from signallers and station teams to route managing directors and programme managers contributed to more than 90 hours of filming in stations, depots, on track, in offices, construction sites, route controls and signal boxes across the nation. The series is narrated by Kevin Whately of Lewis and Inspector Morse fame.

Given the safety restrictions of filming on the railway, it was arranged for the TV people to attend a Personal Track Safety course to acquire the necessary permits to film trackside and they were supplied with the safety clothing such as hard hats and hi vis jackets etc. They had contacts with national and route control teams and access to key people in Network Operations who manage access to the railways. Whilst safety restrictions meant they could not have free reign on the railways or construction sites, every effort was made to give them access to film where they wanted to.

The six episodes are:

King^s Cross
How does one of Britain^s busiest stations operate? This episode follows the East Coast and Network Rail staff running the station, the challenges they face in train dispatch, how they interact with passengers during times of disruption, dealing with recruitment, and the issue of fares and the cost of running the railway. It was filmed over the last three months of the recent redevelopment, so viewers also get to see a very positive example of where some of the money they pay in fares is spent.

Summer madness (Leeds station)
Filmed over the summer months in and around Leeds station and the Yorkshire area, this episode covers a real mix of issues and people from the industry including station staff, train drivers, BTP officers, our maintenance teams and York route control. It covers the Real Ale Trail (Northern); how route control deals with, and the impact of trespass; NR^s trespass campaign, how NR reacted to the flooding, compensation, cable theft; and the tragic death of a young lad at Rossington.

Standing room only (Reading)
A chance to showcase the work at Reading and the people that are delivering the project, including behind the scenes planning meeting about closures (T-6), the Cow Lane Bridge slide and the building of a new platform 10. The episode also features how our mobile operations managers work, handling a dead dog on the line and a suicide at footpath crossing. The cost of delays is highlighted again and we see the impact of delays caused by a freight train cutting through a cable ^ both passengers^ experience and NR teams fixing it. Excess Baggage at Paddington also features along with customer service for elderly and disabled passengers at the station.

West Coast Main Line
On the trains at Euston with Virgin staff dealing with passengers, including with Liverpool and Everton fans heading for the FA Cup semi final and final; Customer service at Manchester Piccadilly with NR^s station team; out with Asset management and Babcock doing track renewals where we get to understand the pressures to get work done in a tight timeframe so not to impact on service next day. The capacity issues and the case for HS2 is also made subtley by the narrator.

Railway on my doorstep (how the railway impacts on communities)
Another real mix of people and issues are covered including the economic impact of reopening of the Ebbw valley railway, both for passengers and jobs. It looks at how station staff in Liverpool and Cardiff cope with crowds when sporting events and parades are on; fare dodging; training new staff; trespass; rubbish clearances trackside and off-track; the impact of high winds on services on the ECML at King^s Cross station; and how NR have dealth with the concerns of people in Steventon in Oxfordshire as we upgraded the level crossing.

Scotland
The final episode looks at the railway north of the border. It follows a track worker in the West Highlands, one of the remotest parts of the network; maintenance teams known locally as ^ice men^ who work at night to keep the tracks clear of snow and ice during winter; and see how NR replace track outside Edinburgh Waverly as well as operations at Glasgow Central.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: TonyK on February 09, 2013, 21:22:19
Sounds fascinating. I shall set the recorder to "Series Record" soon as I'm home. It looks a little more in depth than Michael Portillo's series. I hope the reality lives up to my expectation.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: bobm on February 12, 2013, 10:00:47
Just a reminder in case you have forgotten (I had!), this starts tonight at 21:00 on BBC Two.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: TonyK on February 12, 2013, 20:45:53
Just a reminder in case you have forgotten (I had!), this starts tonight at 21:00 on BBC Two.

Got the recorder set. I'm currently watching a re-run of the Scotland - Italy rugby match, with changed strip and a round ball. Celtic are a goal behind.

Edit: I'm switching over. Juventus' scrum half is ruining this game.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Thatcham Crossing on February 12, 2013, 22:31:05
Watched it and quite enjoyed it.

It was more about the people (staff and Customers) than the trains, especially the MD who seemed very keen to give the impression that he was on first name terms with absolutely every employee of East Coast.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Super Guard on February 12, 2013, 23:20:53
...especially the MD who seemed very keen to give the impression that he was on first name terms with absolutely every employee of East Coast.

 ;D

Also the clip of the lady at Reading saying "surely it's illegal to be packed in like this".. i'm confused, was she trying to get off to avoid the illegality of the situation  ??? ;)


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 13, 2013, 00:30:16
From the Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/reviews/last-nights-viewing--the-railway-keeping-britain-on-track-bbc2-the-year-britain-flooded-channel-4-8492296.html):

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Last night's viewing - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track, BBC2

In a quiet way, The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track was about the grinding nature of management. And I don't mean the grind for managers of trying to manage things, but the grind for those beneath them of being managed. So on one hand, you had Steve, with his "vision" of providing the "seamless journey experiences" and his urgent talk of the work everyone needed to do "going forward".

And on the other hand, you had his employee Steve, one of the beleaguered information team who have to bear the brunt of passengers' rage when the seams come unstitched. And I don't suppose Steve Number One is really a villain ^ even if his can-do ebullience might make you want to push him under a train on a stressful day ^ but you couldn't help but feel that Steve Number Two would happily settle for a bit less jargon and a bit more action.

Steve Number Two is a mournful chap, explaining the necessity of wearing a clip-on tie with a melancholy air that suggests he has seen human beings at their worst and may never smile again. But the interesting thing about Laura Fairrie's film was that not everybody's spirit had been similarly eroded by the daily friction with the travelling public. Bruce, for example, was still remarkably cheerful: "I haven't met anyone who was really bad," he said, when asked about commuter rage, "but I've met some very nice people in very bad moods."

This more philosophical approach seemed wise. There was more than one instance here of people's capacity to take personal affront when the world doesn't rearrange itself to suit their convenience ^ late passengers incredulous that trains hadn't waited for them, others disgusted that the system somehow hadn't foreseen that someone would choose to go under a train rather than on it.

If you were waiting for a coherent account of why Britain's rail network seems to struggle you would have waited a long time. Like a lot of these kind of observational documentaries The Railway at times seemed to suffer from ADHD. You'd think you were on the brink of some kind of systemic explanation, but then it would get distracted. "Hey! Look. It's a man with a red balloon!" There's an avidity for characterful oddity that can get it in the way of any larger understanding. But people and characters do come through strongly, most touchingly here the character of Laxman Keshwara, a veteran station manager who reached his retirement during the filming and was very nearly unmanned by the process of leaving the job he loved. Rather sweetly they saw him out with an announcement on the station announcer and a ruck of station employees giving him a goodbye hug. I don't think it's the management he's going to be missing.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Fourbee on February 13, 2013, 11:45:00
So what is the difference between good customer service and excellent customer service? I wonder if it is the same size gap as that between poor customer service and adequate customer service.

I feel sorry for staff there having to put up with a real life David Brent. Their faces in that presentation said it all.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: devon_metro on February 13, 2013, 13:14:18
Anybody else notice the poster in the East Coast office referring to 'Grand Central taking over'  ;D


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: anthony215 on February 13, 2013, 13:33:18
Anybody else notice the poster in the East Coast office referring to 'Grand Central taking over'  ;D

Thought I saw something like that, I thought I was seeing things


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: vacmanfan on February 13, 2013, 18:26:22
Anyone else think "Steve Number Two" was incredibly rude when being interviewed?

Didn't even look up from his paper in between moaning. 


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Electric train on February 13, 2013, 18:30:41
I though it gave a good impression of the life for staff at a major station,


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: TonyK on February 13, 2013, 18:32:43

I feel sorry for staff there having to put up with a real life David Brent. Their faces in that presentation said it all.

Be kind to him. It can't be easy for him, up there at the blunt end.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: JayMac on February 13, 2013, 19:11:36
I feel sorry for staff there having to put up with a real life David Brent.

That's who the Ops Director immediately reminded me of as well!


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: rogerpatenall on February 13, 2013, 19:24:03
I was unimpressed by pretty much the whole bunch - and, frankly, bored throughout. But I watched to the end. Is it a series? If so, my Tuesday evenings have magically become free for the next few weeks. (Well - next Tuesday I am at the Emirates, anyway, for some real action)
Last time I looked forward to a series, was the Tube. On the day of the first programme I was at a meeting at 55 Broadway and was told that senior management had seen the whole series, and approved it for showing. I knew then that it was going to be a very anodyne plug for the Underground. (Although, in truth, I did watch much of the series). Cynical?, well at my age I allow myself that.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: JayMac on February 13, 2013, 19:28:20
I was unimpressed by pretty much the whole bunch

What? Even the singing, lyrics mangling gateline staffer?  ;D


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: John R on February 13, 2013, 21:53:36
Interested in the person who turned up on a Friday "coming back tomorrow" and was quoted over 300 for a return to Newcastle.  He looked disbelievingly, but failed to ask whether he could do it any cheaper.  Two singles who have been cheaper, especially if he was willing to restrict himself to an advance on the return. Or maybe delay until the 1819 when the cost reduces (obviously depends to some extent what time it was.)

Later in the program an interviewee is asked as to what the difference between good customer service and excellent customer service is (and gave a good reply in my opinion).  Maybe excellent service to the disbelieving Newcastle passenger would have been to suggest he might like to consider two singles or delay his journey. 


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: JayMac on February 13, 2013, 22:17:14
It may be the case that the part of the episode that featured the bloke balking at the cost of the Anytime fare to Newcastle was edited for effect by the producers of the programme.

The response from the booking clerk, when matey said it would cheaper to fly; "That's your prerogative, Sir", was, however, less than helpful.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Fourbee on February 13, 2013, 23:39:49
Anyone else think "Steve Number Two" was incredibly rude when being interviewed?

Cashier number 6 (please)!!  :-\

I think that was him.

Sometimes I get First Capital Connect.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Fourbee on February 13, 2013, 23:46:56

I feel sorry for staff there having to put up with a real life David Brent. Their faces in that presentation said it all.

Be kind to him. It can't be easy for him, up there at the blunt end.

I did think I was being a bit harsh after I posted it. However, the comment that if they didn't comply they were going to lose their jobs did it for me (during the presentation).

You can also see the Laxman's apprehension when he tries to "convince" him to stay.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: anthony215 on February 14, 2013, 10:26:06
I was unimpressed by pretty much the whole bunch - and, frankly, bored throughout. But I watched to the end. Is it a series? If so, my Tuesday evenings have magically become free for the next few weeks. (Well - next Tuesday I am at the Emirates, anyway, for some real action)
Last time I looked forward to a series, was the Tube. On the day of the first programme I was at a meeting at 55 Broadway and was told that senior management had seen the whole series, and approved it for showing. I knew then that it was going to be a very anodyne plug for the Underground. (Although, in truth, I did watch much of the series). Cynical?, well at my age I allow myself that.

Yes it is a series 6 episodes in total. I didnt find this 1st episode  as good as I was hoping it to be but maybe the next episode will be better.


On another note you can look forward to a second series of the tube later in the summer on BBC2


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: thetrout on February 16, 2013, 01:26:26
I thought it showed an interesting contrast to Front Line staff. What Bruce said was quite interesting about people being in bad moods. I've personally seen him at KGX numerous times. On my most recent occasion where he was dealing with an irate passenger who had clearly walked in through the exit. She was asking him to just be civil and let her through despite her clearly being in the wrong and being rude about it too :-\

However that Cleaner I took an instant dislike to... Especially with her comments towards First Class Passengers. The comment that the mess they leave behind I thought was a "tar with the same brush" comment. Whenever I travel on a train I have my refreshments on the table and yes will probably make a mess through the journey. But I always make sure I tidy up afterwards like throw my empty cups in the bin etc.

I also thought that Ops Manager was a bit of a pig. The way he was implying there was no room for error I thought was a little unfair. There are always going to be problems. There are always going to be occasions when things go wrong. I wasn't that impressed at all with his attitude. Lets remember also, attitude rubs onto 'lower grade' staff


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Thatcham Crossing on February 20, 2013, 22:25:33
Didn't anyone watch this weeks episode?

I did, and thought it was a good deal better than the first programme.

There was more "behind the scenes" stuff, including the Network Rail Control Room, teams out trying to stem floods and keep trains running, and the BTP on the trail of cable thieves (including one rather comical case where they snuck up on some guys who were clearly Network Rail employees doing some night-time work!).

Some great characters, including the Asian family of station staff in Leeds, the Northern Railways driver who came across really well, and the Network Rail control room guy who owns a share in a Class 37, and was obviously and rail enthusiast through-and-through.

Finally, there was the usual collection of drunks and the like, including hoardes of middle-aged men behaving badly (and stupidly in some cases) on the "Ale trail".


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: TonyK on February 20, 2013, 23:06:24
I saw it, and agree it was much better. We had a nice bit of philosophy from a driver - "Delivering a service in the face of adversity" was my favourite. Definitely a lot more of an insight into the nitty-gritty life of a railway, with its drunkards, broken fences, racists, tragedies, condoms, trains etc. The disruptive effect of bad weather was well explained. I'm glad I didn't give up after episode 1, and hold hopes for future episodes.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Ollie on February 20, 2013, 23:10:15
Next week: Great Western :)


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: JayMac on February 20, 2013, 23:15:27
Next week: Great Western :)

Starring role Ollie?

Been a while since you've been on TV. 'The Gadget Show' wasn't it?  :P ;) ;D


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Oxman on February 21, 2013, 00:19:19
I also thought it was a huge improvement on the previous week and really began to explain what went on behind the scenes.

My favourite lines were: "The line is blocked by floods Madam" Reply "So will the the next train be ontime?"

It really makes you wonder!


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Ollie on February 21, 2013, 01:44:05
Next week: Great Western :)

Starring role Ollie?

Been a while since you've been on TV. 'The Gadget Show' wasn't it?  :P ;) ;D

Nah no starring role for me :(

It was The Gadget Show yeah :)


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: thetrout on February 21, 2013, 01:57:18
Mr Ollie was on The Gadget Show? Well I never! Must've been one of the few episodes I missed lol!


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: JayMac on February 22, 2013, 21:09:57
Just got round to watching episode 2. A much better representation of the daily life on the railways. There seems to be a little less cynicism up north. The staff featured were a much more jolly lot. I loved the Northern driver and his dry sense of humour, "I've hit dogs, cats, foxes, I've hit 'em all. Never hit a magpie. Far too clever." Followed by, "Pigeon playing chicken. Whould've thought?" And then toward the end, when being asked about his real family and his railway 'family', he replied, "Yeah, it's a bit like your family. There's always one brother who gets on your tits."

Joe Public though.... there really are some odious users of the rail network. I take my hat off to the rail staff and BTP who have to deal with them, day in, day out.

While there was light with the jolly staff, there was also some shade with the BTP dealing with a 'one-under' fatality. That was hard to watch. Particularly hearing the BTP officer's thoughts on having to break the news to a mother that her 15 year old son had been hit by a train and killed.

I wonder what the spotlight on FGW will bring.....

 


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 26, 2013, 19:25:50
I'm simply giving this topic a gentle 'bump' to remind anyone who might have forgotten that episode 3: Reading to Paddington - Standing Room Only (First Great Western) is on air at 9:00 this evening.  ;)


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: JayMac on February 26, 2013, 21:20:49
Poor Ronnie.  :'( :(


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: JayMac on February 26, 2013, 22:00:48
Travelling Chef Karen. Have had a fair amount of her excellently prepared fare. Only disappointment has been the recent burger. Perhaps I got the bland supermarket cheddar on my burger rather than the advertised Vale of Camelot.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 26, 2013, 22:28:15
Well, I've just enjoyed a remarkable hour of televisual entertainment.  :D

Overall, I thought all of the staff who were featured - whether they were from First Great Western and their various contractors, or from Network Rail or British Transport Police, all presented very well.

There were so many little gems, worthy of jotting down, too:

"Expect some strong language" - actually, there wasn't that much (apart from some intoxicated passengers);

A ticket "... will be ^323.50," and the reaction from the prospective passenger was a classic :o

Hayley in lost property deserves a series of her own ...  ;D

On board catering: Clatter "Oh sh!t" followed by the rejoinder "Wherever she goes, there's chaos."

Smuggling emergency supplies of supermarket cheese on board the 20:14 ...  :P

Norman Topsom MBE at Twyford - top bloke!

Young Ben Rudkin from Network Rail - dealt with four fatalities in five months - and that's not including poor Ronnie  :(

It was really worth watching - I commend it to anyone reading this topic.  :D


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: bobm on February 26, 2013, 22:37:39
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televisual entertainment
  - he's swallowed a dictionary again - or been watching Bernard Cribbins on that Fawlty Towers episode "The Hotel Inspectors".

Seriously though I would echo Chris from Nailsea's comments.  It was a very good watch.  Seeing the work that went in over Christmas 2011 was an eye opener.  The lost property office was also interesting - heard all the stories of false legs being found - but never people trying to claim things someone else might have lost!  ;D


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Oxman on February 26, 2013, 22:44:47
I enjoyed it immensely. Having worked at Reading some years ago, and recognising some of the staff, it was a pleasure to see a presentation of the real issues in a calm and dispassionate manner. On the whole, the staff came out some way ahead of the passengers!

The bit about BTP being around on Christmas Eve made me smile. Ten years ago it was me and three security staff trying to keep order on a Saturday night. I'm very glad it appears to have changed.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on February 27, 2013, 08:29:29
I endorse the opinions of those before. Having travelled through Reading for most of the last few years, it seemed strange to see the "old" platform numbers.

OK now I may be biased but out of the 3 programmes so far this seemed the most positive in terms of the attitude of those interviewed. In fact I found some of the interviewees in Episode 2 depressing and/or rude.

I'm not sure that I agree with the idea of Hayley having a series of her own :)




Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Fourbee on February 27, 2013, 09:46:26
The very brief clip of intercity liveried HST's and a class 101 DMU in a bay platfrom at Reading. Nice.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: plymothian on February 27, 2013, 12:12:14
Comments I've read on other boards include: that it was just FGW propaganda as it only showed delays not caused by them and didn't focus enough on the overcrowding; and in regards to the signal failure, why does it take x men to do something in 5+ hours one man could do in 20 mins plus the NR worker smoking at work is very unprofessional.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on February 27, 2013, 12:15:14
Comments I've read on other boards include: that it was just FGW propaganda as it only showed delays not caused by them and didn't focus enough on the overcrowding; and in regards to the signal failure, why does it take x men to do something in 5+ hours one man could do in 20 mins plus the NR worker smoking at work is very unprofessional.

I wouldn't agree that it was FGW propaganda (my opinion) and I don't know what the regs are regarding NR employees smoking in the open air.

I thought there were quite a few examples of overcrowding. Just my 2c

Dave


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Thatcham Crossing on February 27, 2013, 13:04:23
It was a great watch.

RIP Ronnie, although I must admit when I first saw him lifted from the track I thought he was a stuffed dummy, he was that stiff.

I thought it showed plenty of over-crowding, there were several shots of people being advised not to board HST's as they were full.

The section covering Norman at Twyford was done like a tribute, and none more deserving by the looks  :)

The fatality, where was it? (I didn't recognise the area, but obviously on one of the branches).

Personally I really related to the late night clips from Reading, as it reminded me of many occasions waiting for the 0020 to Thatcham!

Finally, if Hayley had a series of her own, I think it would be ideal for ITV2!


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on February 27, 2013, 13:08:49

Finally, if Hayley had a series of her own, I think it would be ideal for ITV2!


Maybe she should have a series with Jeremy Spake (who used to be on a focus oak about heathrow )


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: IndustryInsider on February 27, 2013, 13:14:10
The fatality, where was it? (I didn't recognise the area, but obviously on one of the branches).

It looked like Marlow to me - the footpath crossing by the A404 overpass.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: JayMac on February 27, 2013, 13:40:49
It was indeed that crossing. Gossmore Lane, Marlow. A location I immediately recognised as it was used by myself and a couple of other forum members on a walk along the Thames to Marlow. We got slightly geographically challenged trying to find the Marlow Donkey pub.

Some detail about the incident and the person involved from a press report in October 2012:

http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/localnews/marlow/9961028.Inquest__Man_died_after_being_hit_by_train/


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: bobm on February 27, 2013, 14:40:16
It was also reported here on the Coffee Shop at the time it happened http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=168.msg105168#msg105168 (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=168.msg105168#msg105168)


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: eightf48544 on March 02, 2013, 15:23:18
Definitely Marlow branch Pat Reid from Maidenhead was there as well.

Going back to the second one of the series at Leeds I didn't realise that the Real Ale Trail from Leeds to stalybridge caused so much havoc.

Does that happen on the West Country ones.

Re X men taking 5 hours the problem was as they said they could have had the job done in daylight in an hour but were told to leave off touching anything until RAIB arrived. By the time RAIB said they weren't coming it was dark. Don't see why Networkrail had to accept the delay minutes i would have thought it was the freight operator whose wagon wheels cut the cables.  After all the wires were well out of the way of the wheels if they were on the track.

Just illustrates the stupidy of the delay minute attribution process.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: paul7575 on March 02, 2013, 15:44:23
Don't see why Networkrail had to accept the delay minutes i would have thought it was the freight operator whose wagon wheels cut the cables.  After all the wires were well out of the way of the wheels if they were on the track.

Just illustrates the stupidy of the delay minute attribution process.

Is this the case where the track was twisted at a badly aligned set of points? Which is why NR would have taken the delay as they caused the freight wagon derailment?

Paul


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: LiskeardRich on June 04, 2013, 18:18:27
on a related note, twofour productions are currently at temple meads filming a documentary series about fwg. don't have any further details, but you'll no doubt see the camera crew if passing through the station...

Channel 5 have commissioned this documentary,

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Channel 5 commissions Twofour and GroupM Entertainment to produce ob doc First Great Western


3-06-2013

Twofour and GroupM Entertainment have been commissioned to produce a brand new 8 x 60^ ob doc following the working lives of the staff of First Great Western, one of Britain^s largest and most unique train operating companies.

The series will delve behind the scenes to capture the inside story of an industry that continues to grow, featuring a team of dedicated drivers, managers, ticket inspectors, technicians and porters that connect the capital to the far South West.

Packed full of personality, humour and heritage, First Great Western will offer an insight into one of the country^s most iconic companies and a unique prism through which to take a fresh look at everyday life in contemporary Britain.

Melanie Leach, Twofour MD said: ^As a South West based Indie, Twofour has spent over a decade traveling with FGW. The routes, the staff, the silver service dining and, of course, the customers combine to create an organisation that is utterly unique. We^re delighted that they^ve agreed to let us tell their story on Channel 5.^

First Great Western (working title) is executive produced by Dan Adamson and series produced by Gill Hennessey for Twofour and executive produced by Tony Moulsdale and Melanie Darlaston for GroupM Entertainment.

http://www.twofour.co.uk/news/channel-5-commissions-twofour-and-groupm-entertainment-to-produce-ob-doc-first-great-western/


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: anthony215 on June 04, 2013, 18:50:53
Looking forward to watching it especially if it is as good as the eddie stobart documentaries have been.

2 more episodes than the BBC's "The Tube" as well


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: JayMac on June 04, 2013, 19:15:48
As good as the 'Eddie Stobart' documentary?  ::)

43 minutes of annoying voiceover. 43 minutes of godawful incidental music, often involving a generic rock style. 43 minutes of false jeopardy making everything seem like life and death when it's anything but. The constant use of 'earlier' and 'coming up' clips meaning that the actual 'content' in an episode is rarely more than 30 minutes.

If the FGW series is going to be anything like that then I'll be watching under protest only.


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: anthony215 on June 04, 2013, 19:57:19
As good as the 'Eddie Stobart' documentary?  ::)

43 minutes of annoying voiceover. 43 minutes of godawful incidental music, often involving a generic rock style. 43 minutes of false jeopardy making everything seem like life and death when it's anything but. The constant use of 'earlier' and 'coming up' clips meaning that the actual 'content' in an episode is rarely more than 30 minutes.

If the FGW series is going to be anything like that then I'll be watching under protest only.

bignosemac I will admit that the Eddie Stobart documentary does have its flaws like a few other documentaries (The "Seconds from Disaster" series being another example as well as Ice Road Truckers)

I do hope  though in fact it will be of a similar style to "The Tube" well not like that 1 hour special last month with  its dodgy camera


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: bobm on June 04, 2013, 20:23:46
Not sure if this is new - but I haven't seen it before so might tune in on Sunday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02xczsh (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02xczsh)


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Red Squirrel on June 04, 2013, 20:59:40
Can't help being amused by the fact that this thread is categorised under 'The Wider Picture' - not for those of us with 4:3 aspect ratio tellies it isn't!


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: Rhydgaled on June 04, 2013, 23:18:21
Can't help being amused by the fact that this thread is categorised under 'The Wider Picture' - not for those of us with 4:3 aspect ratio tellies it isn't!
The introduction of 16:9 aspect ratio tellies has been a source of quite a bit of annoyance for me. Either there are black bars blanking parts of the screen or, as on the 4:3 telly we are using at the moment, portions of the picture are cropped off the edges.

Sorry if I missed it, but has anyone said when the channel 5 show about FirstGW is to be broadcast?


Title: Re: BBC TV - The Railway: Keeping Britain on Track
Post by: ChrisB on June 05, 2013, 10:29:04
It's still being filmed....



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