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Journey by Journey => Cross Country services => Topic started by: thetrout on February 07, 2013, 21:02:10



Title: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: thetrout on February 07, 2013, 21:02:10
Hi All,

Does anyone know the diagrams for the XC HST workings for both Sunday and Monday please? I've been lumbered with an XC Journey which I would consider doing if I could do it HST Style and the times were right.

Thanks in anticipations!

TT :)


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: inspector_blakey on February 07, 2013, 22:20:00
http://www.125group.org.uk/Diagrams%20XC.pdf (http://www.125group.org.uk/Diagrams%20XC.pdf)

Beware that the Sunday diagrams may be tweaked by engineering work; if you let me know what journey you're planning on Sunday I can probably find out what trains, if any, are *booked* for HST traction.

Bear in mind though that there are no XCs booked to operate south of Birmingham New Street on a Sunday.


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: phile on February 07, 2013, 22:36:42
That means that there will be no HSTs in the West of England.


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: inspector_blakey on February 07, 2013, 22:43:25
Erm, well, yes, isn't it fairly obvious that that's true of XC HSTs? However given that I don't know what journey thetrout has planned, he may still be able to use them if it involves travelling north of Brum.

And, of course, there are likely still to be plenty of HSTs in the west of England unless FGW are having an exceedingly bad weekend.


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: thetrout on February 08, 2013, 07:44:04
I_B Thanks for that... Sunday ruled out for definite as it is a journey most likely starting there. It'll probably be the 13:20 off BHM ;)

Also your inadvertent typo (pot kettle black I know :) ) perhaps lead to phile' post... As that puzzled me as well... My emphasis in bold ;) :D ;D

Bear in mind though that there are no XCs booked to operate south of Birmingham New Street on a Sunday.

That means that there will be no HSTs in the West of England.

And, of course, there are likely still to be plenty of HSTs in the west of England unless FGW are having an exceedingly bad weekend.

That's because they're all going on Holiday :D


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: paul7575 on February 08, 2013, 09:56:28
http://www.125group.org.uk/Diagrams%20XC.pdf (http://www.125group.org.uk/Diagrams%20XC.pdf)

Beware that the Sunday diagrams may be tweaked by engineering work; if you let me know what journey you're planning on Sunday I can probably find out what trains, if any, are *booked* for HST traction.

Those diagrams above change this Sunday - I think because they have already been affected by engineering work.  There has been a single early morning northbound HST on Sundays in the regular timetables for the last few years.

However unusually a couple of afternoon XC HST services are shown (with the appropriate symbol) in FGW's timetable 24 on Sundays for the next 6 weeks or so before reverting to the recent situation.

(I find it amazing that FGW publish this info, but XC themselves can't - or won't.  That simple 'H' above the timetable column would allow people to head for the bigger trains...)

Paul


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: phile on February 08, 2013, 18:52:33
Erm, well, yes, isn't it fairly obvious that that's true of XC HSTs? However given that I don't know what journey thetrout has planned, he may still be able to use them if it involves travelling north of Brum.

And, of course, there are likely still to be plenty of HSTs in the west of England unless FGW are having an exceedingly bad weekend.
The thread refers to XC HSTs and not FGW


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: JayMac on February 08, 2013, 19:16:48
That means that there will be no HSTs in the West of England.

According to published diagrams there are XC HST services in the West this Sunday:

1055 Gloucester - Plymouth 1356 (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P33398/2013/02/10/advanced)
1155 Gloucester - Plymouth 1456 (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P33404/2013/02/10/advanced)
1455 Gloucester - Plymouth 1756 (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P33426/2013/02/10/advanced)

1324 Plymouth - Gloucester 1608 (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P33333/2013/02/10/advanced)
1424 Plymouth - Gloucester 1708 (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P33339/2013/02/10/advanced)
1524 Plymouth - Gloucester 1808 (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P32831/2013/02/10/advanced)
1824 Plymouth - Gloucester 2108 (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P32854/2013/02/10/advanced)




Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: Southern Stag on February 08, 2013, 19:32:06
They'll be Voyagers, they are still timed as HSTs but just because they are the standard HST services on a Sunday.


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: JayMac on February 08, 2013, 19:45:29
My apologies, they are indeed Voyagers, as confirmed by CrossCountry's booking engine.


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: phile on February 08, 2013, 21:30:32
The XC HSTs are normally at Craigentinny or Neville Hill overnight so as none spend the night in the West they will only work north of Birmingham


Title: Re: XC HST Diagrams
Post by: Southern Stag on February 08, 2013, 22:04:01
There is one set in the winter which stables at Laira (Plymouth) on Friday night after working the 1306 Edinburgh-Plymouth, it then works the 1323 Plymouth-Edinburgh on a Sunday. This doesn't happen when there is engineering work such as this weekend though.



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