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Title: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: john_boler on April 25, 2013, 00:48:46
The Mobility Issues Group for Goring and Streatley (MIGGS) has been making representations to all who will listen, but especially FGW, Network Rail and the DfT to instal lifts when the footbridge is rebuilt at Goring and Streatley station as part of the electrification programme. The latest salvo was fired in the House of Commons on 24 April 2013 when Henley MP, John Howell presented a petition collected by MIGGS.You can view the actualit^ here:

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=12999&st=18:01:33.0770000 (http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=12999&st=18:01:33.0770000)

It begins at 6:28:09


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 25, 2013, 01:25:33
Thanks for posting that interesting information and link, john_boler, and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum!  :)


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: eightf48544 on April 25, 2013, 09:35:14
Very interesting, Goring and Streatly like Taplow seems to be unmanned for most of the day therefore would the lifts only be available up to 13:00 each day (not Sunday)?

I started a thread on this in Frequent Posters Club about unmanned stations and lift opening times,  but it didn't start a debate.

I made the comment that Docklands has unmanned lifts at it's unmanned station open all the time and that in this case was Twyford more bandit country than East London.

 


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: john_boler on April 25, 2013, 10:01:34
See "Accessible train station design for disabled people: a code of practice", published by the Department for Transport", November 2011 edition, at https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/3191/accessible-train-station-design-cop.pdf. This implies that an acceptable standard for the availability of assistance in the event of emergency is two hours. This is well within the capability of a technician based at either Reading or Didcot, both of which are staffed 24 hours a day.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: paul7575 on April 25, 2013, 11:48:33

I started a thread on this in Frequent Posters Club about unmanned stations and lift opening times,  but it didn't start a debate.


I didn't really think there was anything else to debate.  SWT's current practices already made it clear that there is no fundamental problem with having lifts at unmanned stations.

Paul


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: john_boler on March 15, 2015, 23:04:53
Goring and Streatley station now has a fully accessible toilet. The new toilet, along with fully modernised ladies^ and gents^ toilets, was formally opened for use on 12 March by John Howell, MP for Henley. The ^disabled^ toilet is the first of a number of accessibility improvements planned by First Great Western and Network Rail, the most important of which is passenger lifts, to be integrated into a new footbridge, due for completion in the summer of 2015. The latest forecast is that the lifts will be completed by late summer or early autumn. The accessible toilet is fitted with a ^Radar^ lock that can be opened by any disabled traveller in possession of a Radar key.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: john_boler on March 15, 2015, 23:29:07
On 12 March John Howell MP unveiled an orientation plaque at Goring and Streatley station. The plaque is intended primarily to help long distance walkers and other pedestrians arriving at the station, many of whom use Goring and Streatley as the railhead for exploring the Thames Path and Ridgeway national trails and the Chilterns and North Wessex Downs areas of outstanding natural beauty, all of which meet at Goring river bridge. The picture shows Dave Martin (right) accepting the plaque on behalf of First Great Western from John Howell, MP for Henley.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Surrey 455 on March 16, 2015, 11:15:46
For a moment I wondered why there was a London Transport roundel on the map then I scrolled to the right and saw it was an arrow.

BTW why is the map dated 2009?


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 16, 2015, 18:26:56
Thanks for posting that update, john_boler!  :)

Compared with some such facilities which I have seen also described as 'fully accessible', that one seems positively palatial!  :o :D ;D


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 16, 2015, 21:42:30
Was it presented by Network Rail in 2009, and it's taken this long to mount it somewhere suitable, possibly?

Isn't that Patrick Hallgate, of Network Rail, top right in the first picture?


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: lordgoata on March 17, 2015, 09:03:16
Probably the case Chris, there was a bit in Goring Gap magazine about it, but I forgot what it said now. Does amaze me though, if it has taken 6 years to install, that they decide to do it right now in the middle of all the engineering works they are doing to the station with the new bridge etc! Would have made much more sense to put up up when everything was finished and have it as part of the opening of the new station/lifts etc.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: stuving on March 17, 2015, 09:13:47
With Google's assistance, I found this letter to the parish council (on their web site) that fills in those missing details:
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As the Council will be aware, Network Rail is about to embark on construction of a new
footbridge at Goring and Streatley station.

This is a formal request for the Council to make available its Network Rail orientation plaque
for incorporation into the new bridge or erection nearby.

The plaque is currently held in the Council store room. Whether the plaque would, indeed,
be incorporated into the new station works would be for Network Rail and/or First Great
Western to decide. The purpose of this request is to clear the way for me to ask them, on a
personal basis, to do so. An alternative would be for the Council to make such a request
direct to Network Rail; in which case I should be happy to suggest a helpful contact.

The Council^s records will show that the plaque was a gift made by Network Rail to the
Council on behalf of residents of Goring in recognition of the patient way that residents had
tolerated the inconvenience caused by reconstruction of the High Street rail bridge in 2006.
The plaque was designed locally and commissioned and paid for direct by the Council, using
the money gifted by Network Rail.

Planning permission was granted in December 2009 for the plaque to be erected on the
station forecourt but the works have not so far been executed.

That letter was written last September by - unsurprisingly - one John Boler.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Surrey 455 on March 17, 2015, 10:01:15
I hope there haven't been any road layout changes during that 6 year wait


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 17, 2015, 10:04:24
I hope there haven't been any road layout changes during that 6 year wait

Don't think there's any road layout changes, but the railway line has been 4-tracked in the intervening years...  ;)


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: lordgoata on March 17, 2015, 11:38:25
Don't think there's any road layout changes, but the railway line has been 4-tracked in the intervening years...  ;)

LOL  ;D

Actually, there is one error I can see, if you plan to visit the Food & Drink symbol at the bottom by the note indicating the B4256, you'll be sadly disappointed as its a derelict building now. STIG continue their irritating anti-Tesco tirade, leaving the village with this lovely eyesore for the past 12 months, and who knows how many more for the future .... but I digress :)


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: ellendune on March 17, 2015, 19:44:54
I hope there haven't been any road layout changes during that 6 year wait

Don't think there's any road layout changes, but the railway line has been 4-tracked in the intervening years...  ;)

Really I cannot remember it being anything other than 4 track over the last 50 years.  Unless it was for a short period in the late 70's and Early 80's when I lived up North.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Red Squirrel on March 17, 2015, 21:46:30
I hope there haven't been any road layout changes during that 6 year wait

Don't think there's any road layout changes, but the railway line has been 4-tracked in the intervening years...  ;)

Really I cannot remember it being anything other than 4 track over the last 50 years.  Unless it was for a short period in the late 70's and Early 80's when I lived up North.

I think II was making a little joke - the 'orientation plaque', or 'map' as I would call it, shows two tracks when there are, in faquet, four.  ;)


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: ellendune on March 17, 2015, 22:37:22
I hope there haven't been any road layout changes during that 6 year wait

Don't think there's any road layout changes, but the railway line has been 4-tracked in the intervening years...  ;)

Really I cannot remember it being anything other than 4 track over the last 50 years.  Unless it was for a short period in the late 70's and Early 80's when I lived up North.

I think II was making a little joke - the 'orientation plaque', or 'map' as I would call it, shows two tracks when there are, in faquet, four.  ;)

Silly me!


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 21, 2015, 20:22:55
Further details of the installation, from Henley on Thames News (http://www.henleystandard.co.uk/news/news.php?id=22883):

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At last, visitor map installed at station

(http://www.henleystandard.co.uk/media/photos/160315/main/goring%20station%20plaque.jpg)

A plaque with a map of Goring and the surrounding area has been installed at the village station for use by visitors.

Network Rail commissioned the plaque in 2007 after refurbishing the road bridge over the railway at High Street.

It was a goodwill gesture as the project took three months and caused significant disruption, prompting complaints from Boris Johnson, who was then Henley^s MP.

Goring Parish Council wanted to place the plaque at the main station entrance and obtained planning permission in 2009.

However, Network Rail said it had to check whether it was possible as it could interfere with underground cables, so the council put the board into storage and there were no further discussions.

Last year, First Great Western offered to finally install the plaque it as part of a refurbishment of the station^s toilets, which is now under way. The council and Network Rail both agreed.

The board shows tourists the way to Goring village centre, the River Thames, Streatley and major footpaths and bridleways.

First Great Western may also produce a leaflet promoting Goring as a tourist destination.

John Boler, who was parish clerk in 2007, said: ^This has finally drawn a line under something that started when I was the clerk. It shows the extent of the goodwill that exists between the people of the village and the railway. I know it will prove very helpful to visitors as I am often stopped and asked directions in the summer.^

Well done, John Boler, and many thanks for following up on this topic.  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 07, 2015, 12:15:37
I see the old footbridge was lifted out at the weekend, all bar the steps down to the island platform, which are still in use as the temporary footbridge connects on to them.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: a-driver on April 09, 2015, 14:49:45
A lift at a what is for most part, an unmanned station.... am I the only one who thinks it won't last more than a few days before being vandalised and put 'Out Of Order'??


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Oxonhutch on April 09, 2015, 15:25:44
I suspect it will be like Princes Risborough.  When the station is manned, the lifts are switched on.  At other times you must use the stairs


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 09, 2015, 17:01:42
Which isn't much good at Goring - unless they're putting on a late shift in addition to the current early shift?


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Oxonhutch on April 09, 2015, 20:20:55
In the afternoon the lifts would work just as well as they do now!  ;)

[Risk Assessment] I suppose it will depend on the level of potential abuse unsupervised, and a guess at how long it will take to release someone from a failed lift by a third-party contractor - the Fire Brigade are not that keen on this kind of work these days and would certainly charge heavily for their services[/Risk Assessment]


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: lordgoata on April 09, 2015, 20:35:17
The locals in the close that butts up to the station were complaining about it as well. Since the trees were "pruned" they are commenting the noise is considerably worse, and with the new bridge location, its right over their gardens/properties. They are particularly put out by the huge lift shafts - and one of their main avenues for complaint is the fact they will not run out of hours (think its manned 0600-1200 Mon-Fri), and with rumors of Goring becoming un-manned eventually, are questioning the logic.

Whilst I agree its kinda crazy to spend all this money when they will potentially not be running 50% of the time, was there not a discussion on here some time back about them working out of hours with CCTV monitoring off-site for problems and vandalism ?

Given the recent spat of graffiti and the "free" travel between Tilehurst, Pangbourne, Goring and Cholsey, it will be interesting to see how long things remain nice and shiny when they have finished :(


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Oxman on April 09, 2015, 22:33:08
I have it on good authority that FGW/NR are looking at a system of remote monitoring that would allow the lifts to operate 24/7.

NR is responsible for maintenance of lifts on stations. It has a contract with the lift maintenance contractor that currently specifies a maximum response time of two hours for an engineer to attend on site following an entrapment. Most entrapments are dealt with quickly by the station staff, and the passengers are released well before the engineer arrives. But I guess this might mean that, for an unstaffed station, it could take up to two hours to release anyone that becomes trapped.

The FGW on call manager for stations is not going to be too happy if he/she is also called out to lift entrapments!!!


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 29, 2015, 02:00:43
From the Henley Standard (http://www.henleystandard.co.uk/news/news.php?id=78286):

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Cash boost for group^s road safety scheme

A campaign to widen a narrow pavement near Goring station has received a ^5,000 pledge from the parish council.

The authority has agreed to pay the grant towards the ^100,000 project next year as long as it receives the rest of the funding it needs.

The Mobility Issues Group for Goring and Streatley wants to widen a stretch of walkway in Wallingford Road, which is less than 1m wide, to more than 1.25m.

It says this is enough for two people with wheelchairs, mobility scooters, prams or pushchairs to pass without stepping into the road.

The pavement, which lies between the Reading Road and High Street junctions, would be extended backwards on to land owned by Network Rail, which has given provisional permission.

The area slopes downwards so the extension would have to be propped up on a parapet. Oxfordshire County Council, the highways authority, may be willing to take responsibility for maintenance.

John Boler, the mobility group^s chairman, told a parish council meeting last week: ^The pledge we^re asking from you is a sprat to catch a mackerel ^ the mackerel in this case being a larger grant from First Great Western. We hope they will provide between ^80,000 and ^92,000 depending on the final cost of the project. We have already received ^5,000 in private pledges and a considerable amount of pro bono work from Arup, which has put forward a workable solution to widening the pavement on such a steep embankment.

^Pedestrians will be able to walk side by side and passengers with bulky luggage will also be able to walk to the station safely. We need to raise ^1 in every ^5 towards this locally and all we are asking from you is 50p out of every ^5.^

Mr Boler said the scheme was the ^final piece in a bigger picture^ of improvements at the station, where First Great Western recently installed disabled access toilets.

Network Rail is installing a new footbridge as part of its electrification scheme that includes three passenger lifts which will open next year. Mr Boler said there were more than 60,000 pedestrian movements on Wallingford Road every year so many people would benefit. He first asked the council for a ^5,000 pledge last October but was turned down as the proposal was at too early a stage.

But at last Monday^s meeting, the chairman Kevin Bulmer said: ^I must say that getting a long^standing problem sorted out for ^5,000 is really good value for money. John and the mobility group deserve all credit for the effort they^ve put into this.^

The council agreed to provide a letter endorsing the group^s funding bid to First Great Western, which has a ^2.2 million fund for works ^not necessarily on railway infrastructure^.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: ChrisB on May 12, 2016, 10:26:39
From NRs recent e-newsletter -

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Construction of the new Access For All footbridge at Goring and Streatley Station is nearing completion. We are currently working with SSE to provide a power supply for the lifts. The below are indicative dates for the opening.
^27 May - Open footbridge subject to Train Operation Company agreement and sign-off
^29 May - 5 June - Removal of temporary footbridge
^Mid-June - Open lifts subject to power supply

The new footbridge will provide passengers and the local community with a step free route across the railway.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: lordgoata on May 12, 2016, 12:47:02
The new footbridge will provide passengers and the local community with a step free route across the railway.
[/quote]

Just don't run/walk too quickly down the stairs on platforms 2/3, as you'll likely run straight into the brick wall of the waiting room at the end! I can't believe how close that is, given the acres of platform space, hehehe.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: Oxman on June 08, 2016, 16:53:49
The new footbridge opened this afternoon. The lifts have power to them, but are out of use at the moment.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: john_boler on September 05, 2017, 09:56:38
Although they were not opened formally until 26 September 2016, on 8 September 2017 the lifts at Goring and Streatley will have been available for public use for one year. Initially the lifts were under local control only when the station was staffed. Then local control was extended to every day from 6am to 5.30pm. Since the formal opening they have been open under passenger control from 6am to 10.30pm, with remote monitoring and control between 10.30pm and 6am. In practice the remote control system is so cumbersome that passengers do not use it.

At the risk of tempting fate I am pleased to report that there has been no known incident since a brief entrapment of a passenger during the two week "teething" period before the official opening. This experience is in stark contrast to some of the pessimistic predictions posted on this Forum in advance of (a) the decision to instal lifts and (b) their opening a year ago.

We hope that our representations to Network Rail and the Oxfordshire highways to widen the pavement in Wallingford Road, alongside the station will have an equally positive outcome.

We are very grateful to Network Rail and Great Western Railway, and to their contractors, especially Murphy Group, for their constructive approach to all our representations during the works at Goring and Streatley station, even when they have not been able to grant all our wishes. We are also grateful to our MP, John Howell for his support.

John Boler, Chairman, Mobility Issues Group for Goring and Streatley


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: john_boler on September 05, 2017, 10:03:23
The food and drink symbol on the orientation plaque, made redundant by closure of the Queens Arms pub, now has new salience with the opening on the old pub site of a spanking new Tesco Express store. Food and drink are now available to passengers from 7am to 11pm, seven days a week.


Title: Re: Goring and Streatley Station - facilities and improvements (merged topic)
Post by: IndustryInsider on September 05, 2017, 12:32:00
Thanks for the update, John.

Now that performance of such a system has been demonstrated at Goring (as well at other locations) hopefully the similarly busy stations nearby at Pangbourne and Tilehurst can also now successfully demonstrate that it would be money well spent to provide them?  Pangbourne's layout might be an obstacle to that happening though?

I see Burnham's lift installation is nearing completion, though being a Crossrail station it, and many others, will come under that scheme - although I think Burnham came under an 'access for all' fund announced before Crossrail relented to pressure and announced all its stations would be fully accessible.



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