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Title: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on February 15, 2007, 15:00:50 14:52 Newquay to Gunnislake due 17:20
This train has been started from Par. It will no longer call at: Newquay, St Columb Road, Roche, Bugle and Luxulyan. This is due to an earlier broken down train. Replacement road transport will be provided between Newquay and Par. 14:00 Par to Newquay due 14:49 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a train fault. Customers travelling from Par to Newquay are advised to travel on the alternative road transport service. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: grahame on May 13, 2007, 09:03:44 According to table 142 of the new National Rail Timetable, there are only TWO trains to Newquay on summer saturdays, arriving there at 11:08 and 13:07. That's as opposed to 6 trains on summer Sundays and 6 on Summer Monday-to Friday. Have I missed something?
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Jim on May 13, 2007, 10:09:54 2 FGW & 3 VXC on summer Saturdays, so you will need table 51 at a guess
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: grahame on May 13, 2007, 20:16:08 Oh - magic. Table 142 doesn't include trains that don't stop at Par :-\
Thanks Jim! Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Timmer on May 13, 2007, 21:58:27 I was going to purchase the last ever printed all line timetable until I viewed it online, but probably won't bother as it seems some of the Western Region timetables are incomplete to go on top of the usual errors. Sunday services on tables 123 and 125 are incomplete in particular. Why bother publishing them??? Incidently this is shown in FGW's Book A as well for Sunday services.
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Scooby on May 13, 2007, 23:49:19 Summer Saturdays there are x3 FGW and x3 VXC services to NQY.
Sundays there are x1 FGW HST, x1 VXC and x4 FGW local. Weekdays this year is a farce with just x4 units until July, then x4 units plus x1 HST for July/August only. VXC Saturday services do not stop Par. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: devon_metro on May 14, 2007, 17:17:54 I'd hate to live at any of the intermediate stations between NQY and Par on saturday.
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Timmer on May 14, 2007, 19:22:35 I'd hate to live at any of the intermediate stations between NQY and Par on saturday. I doubt they even notice the lack of service on summer Saturdays. 4 trains a day isnt exactly convenient at the best of times. I find it staggering that a major town as Newquay has such few trains running to it. Bet it has a huge traffic problem during the summer months. But then again so does places like Weymouth and that has an hourly service from London! Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on May 15, 2007, 10:27:01 I doubt they even notice the lack of service on summer Saturdays. This may be part of the reasoning behind Jacob's decision to recommend their closure (Page 216 of the link below.) http://www.dft.gov.uk/foi/responses/2006/september06/swindonwestburytrainsservice/greaterwesternoutlinebusines1103 Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Scooby on May 15, 2007, 23:50:27 The problem with the Newquay line is its 20 miles long and takes a HST best part of a hour! Newquay to Exeter by rail is near enough 3 hours, road can half that, especially now the A30 Goss Moor bypass is part open.
As for local traffic, Par is nothing apart from a junction, theres not a great deal there, people in Newquay dont want to visit Par, the more likely places are St.Austell and Truro, both far far easier/quicker by bus from Newquay!! As for the intermediate shacks would love to see the usage figures over the last few years to compare, Wessex operated 8 services on a weekday one year and a fair few people used the shacks for days out in Newquay. If HSTs can again stop Saltash, St.Germans, Devonport, why cant the first one out to Newquay and the last one back call at the shacks to offer a day in Newquay for the locals?? Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Jim on May 16, 2007, 07:35:12 The problem with the Newquay line is its 20 miles long and takes a HST best part of a hour! Newquay to Exeter by rail is near enough 3 hours, road can half that, especially now the A30 Goss Moor bypass is part open. As for local traffic, Par is nothing apart from a junction, theres not a great deal there, people in Newquay dont want to visit Par, the more likely places are St.Austell and Truro, both far far easier/quicker by bus from Newquay!! As for the intermediate shacks would love to see the usage figures over the last few years to compare, Wessex operated 8 services on a weekday one year and a fair few people used the shacks for days out in Newquay. If HSTs can again stop Saltash, St.Germans, Devonport, why cant the first one out to Newquay and the last one back call at the shacks to offer a day in Newquay for the locals?? Because the 1st & last trains to NQY are VXC Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: devon_metro on May 16, 2007, 16:51:54 The problem with the Newquay line is its 20 miles long and takes a HST best part of a hour! Newquay to Exeter by rail is near enough 3 hours, road can half that, especially now the A30 Goss Moor bypass is part open. As for local traffic, Par is nothing apart from a junction, theres not a great deal there, people in Newquay dont want to visit Par, the more likely places are St.Austell and Truro, both far far easier/quicker by bus from Newquay!! As for the intermediate shacks would love to see the usage figures over the last few years to compare, Wessex operated 8 services on a weekday one year and a fair few people used the shacks for days out in Newquay. If HSTs can again stop Saltash, St.Germans, Devonport, why cant the first one out to Newquay and the last one back call at the shacks to offer a day in Newquay for the locals?? the journey time would be silly if they stopped everywhere! Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Scooby on May 16, 2007, 23:14:16 Well the first FGW out, and the last FGW back then... Would still offer a day in NQY.....
Stopping wouldnt extend journey times much at all as the linespeed is so low. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Jim on May 17, 2007, 07:10:43 Well the first FGW out, and the last FGW back then... Would still offer a day in NQY..... Stopping wouldnt extend journey times much at all as the linespeed is so low. I don't think so, because are they not only 4 hours apart Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Graz on May 17, 2007, 11:29:43 Are any of the stations request stops? Some of the villages they serve like St Columb Road are particularly small. (Although I have no experience of this area-yet!)
I think saturday 'seaside trips' to Newquay using the train are a very good idea. It could drum up a big sense of community spirit with discounted tickets on sale in village post offices, for example, with gearing towards groups of people and families from all the intermediate villages. Along with the adopt a station ideas, this could also encourage better general use of the stations and perhaps even long-distance trips from them. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: devon_metro on May 17, 2007, 18:17:06 Yes, they are request stops, but imagine stopping a long HST along a platform 2 cars long. 8 carriages of doors unlocked and some rowdy holiday makers. Asking for trouble.
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Graz on May 17, 2007, 22:59:18 Yeah, definitely not a HST/VXC. I was thinking more along the lines of a 1-car class 153 ;)
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Scooby on May 18, 2007, 01:40:42 I would imagine 'shack' figures were the highest in a while at the end of Wessex, however FGW have probably now killed these back down.
However big up FGW for running a extra HST this coming Bank Holiday Monday, although why run it out ECS?? The guard must be travelling on it?? Even if it ran Plymouth to Newquay non stop would be of use: Bank Holiday Monday 28th May HST: 5Z87 LAIRA TMD 11:15 NEWQUAY 13:31 STP MO 280507 280507 EE 1Z93 NEWQUAY 13:45 PADDINGTN 19:09 STP MO 280507 280507 XX Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Scooby on May 18, 2007, 01:44:35 Well the first FGW out, and the last FGW back then... Would still offer a day in NQY..... Stopping wouldnt extend journey times much at all as the linespeed is so low. I don't think so, because are they not only 4 hours apart Its a bit more than 4 hours!! This is a Sat at Newquay: Trains at NEWQUAY All trains from 00:01 to 24:00 on 09/06/07 Lc Arr Dep Wttid Origin Destination Typ Days From To TC 08:36 ***** 2C34 PLYMOUTH 06:53 NEWQUAY 08:36 WTT SO 260507 080907 OO ***** 09:40 1E47 NEWQUAY 09:40 NCASTLCEN 18:34 WTT SO 260507 090607 XX 11:03 ***** 1C08 PLYMOUTH 08:58 NEWQUAY 11:03 WTT SO 260507 080907 XX ***** 11:39 1A90 NEWQUAY 11:39 PADDINGTN 16:57 WTT SO 260507 080907 XX 13:02 ***** 1C77 PADDINGTN 08:05 NEWQUAY 13:02 VAR SO 090607 090607 XX ***** 13:20 1A92 NEWQUAY 13:20 PADDINGTN 18:21 WTT SO 260507 080907 XX 14:44 ***** 1V29 MANCR PIC 07:00 NEWQUAY 14:44 WTT SO 260507 300607 XX ***** 15:22 1M28 NEWQUAY 15:22 MANCR PIC 22:47 WTT SO 260507 300607 XX 16:43 ***** 1C82 PADDINGTN 11:35 NEWQUAY 16:43 WTT SO 260507 080907 XX ***** 17:13 1A97 NEWQUAY 17:13 PADDINGTN 22:29 WTT SO 260507 080907 XX 18:35 ***** 1V49 NCASTLCEN 09:41 NEWQUAY 18:35 WTT SO 260507 090607 XX ***** 19:50 2P86 NEWQUAY 19:50 PLYMOUTH 21:40 WTT SO 260507 080907 OO So you would have 11:03 until 17:13, perfect for a family day out!!! Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Jim on May 18, 2007, 06:52:26 Didn't know there was a 1103 in from PLY
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on July 09, 2007, 15:42:36 First Great Western has said demand has been very strong for its new summertime direct service from London Paddington to Newquay (link below.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6280204.stm Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: paulsouthwales on July 09, 2007, 18:02:04 I have been trying desperately to get any advanced/cheaper tickets for a Bristol Parkway to Newquay journey, down on Sat, back on Sun, for weeks, and fail to get anything other than a Saver! I know the trains are busy, and it is probably a Virgin XC service on this route rather than FGW, but are these cheap/book in advance tickets available on weekends for this route?
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Timmer on July 09, 2007, 19:06:13 I have been trying desperately to get any advanced/cheaper tickets for a Bristol Parkway to Newquay journey, down on Sat, back on Sun, for weeks, and fail to get anything other than a Saver! I know the trains are busy, and it is probably a Virgin XC service on this route rather than FGW, but are these cheap/book in advance tickets available on weekends for this route? They should be. Must be Virgin XC not releasing the fares as I can't believe they are all sold, especially with the weather of late! If you wanted to travel by FGW to Newquay you'd have to travel to Reading as no FGW services to/from Newquay services pass through Bristol anymore which is quite a diversion.Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Scooby on July 13, 2007, 12:17:38 Today (Friday) FGWs 09:05 PAD to NQY is yet again rammed to the gunnels and loosing time as a result.
Am fairly sure cheap tickets to NQY Fri-Mon are non-exsistant. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Timmer on July 13, 2007, 15:09:45 Today (Friday) FGWs 09:05 PAD to NQY is yet again rammed to the gunnels and loosing time as a result. So from that we can take it that FGW now know that there is a market for this service and will continue it in future. Am fairly sure cheap tickets to NQY Fri-Mon are non-exsistant. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on August 24, 2007, 10:32:44 No Pacers on the line yet , but cancellations all the same :
11:24 Par to Newquay due 12:14 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a train fault. 10:18 Newquay to Par due 11:03 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a train fault. Road transport has been arranged. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Jim on August 24, 2007, 22:30:44 The following Penzance - Plymouth covered the Keyham stop, but not Devonport or Dockyard!
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: grahame on August 25, 2007, 08:23:52 The following Penzance - Plymouth covered the Keyham stop, but not Devonport or Dockyard! Is that because of "Grandfather right" or a long platform at Keyham, or because Keyham has a much heavier traffic flow that Devonport orDockyard? Or is it just a strange decision? Forgive me if this is a silly question - not really my "home turf". Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on August 25, 2007, 15:50:15 The following Penzance - Plymouth covered the Keyham stop, but not Devonport or Dockyard! Is that because of "Grandfather right" or a long platform at Keyham, or because Keyham has a much heavier traffic flow that Devonport orDockyard? Or is it just a strange decision? Forgive me if this is a silly question - not really my "home turf". I doubt that its due to usage. 2005 / 2006 Passenger Figures : Devonport 18573 Dockyard 4895 Keyham 7594 Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Tractorman on August 26, 2007, 13:29:15 Was done to save time, passengers for Dockyard and Devonport were asked to alight at Keyham and wait for the following 14:24 ex Gunnislake service.
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: grahame on August 26, 2007, 21:31:35 Was done to save time, passengers for Dockyard and Devonport were asked to alight at Keyham and wait for the following 14:24 ex Gunnislake service. I expected there would be some logic applied ... but was scratching my head until you follow up. Thanks! It sounds like sense. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Jim on August 26, 2007, 22:41:56 Was done to save time, passengers for Dockyard and Devonport were asked to alight at Keyham and wait for the following 14:24 ex Gunnislake service. People at Keyham weren't told that, like me! Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Tractorman on August 27, 2007, 02:05:16 People at Keyham weren't told that, like me! What on earth were you doing at Keyham, careful, you may double the useage figures for this year..... Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: martyjon on August 27, 2007, 21:05:14 On what must be a busy day being Bank Holiday Monday 27/08/2007 from the FGW website ;-
17:25 Gunnislake to Newquay due 20:18 This train will be terminated at Par. It will no longer call at: Luxulyan, Bugle, Roche, St Columb Road, Quintrell Downs and Newquay. 20:23 Newquay to Par due 21:11 This train has been cancelled. And is Newquay an unstaffed station (says I tongue in cheek). Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: vacman on August 29, 2007, 20:41:40 On what must be a busy day being Bank Holiday Monday 27/08/2007 from the FGW website ;- 17:25 Gunnislake to Newquay due 20:18 This train will be terminated at Par. It will no longer call at: Luxulyan, Bugle, Roche, St Columb Road, Quintrell Downs and Newquay. 20:23 Newquay to Par due 21:11 This train has been cancelled. And is Newquay an unstaffed station (says I tongue in cheek). That train was caped due to a rostering error! they had marked a guard down to work overtime without actually telling him! another classic Swindon cock up!!!!!! Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: martyjon on October 13, 2007, 13:25:17 15:10 Newquay to Par due 15:58
This train has been cancelled. This is due to a train fault. Road transport will be in operation between Newquay and Par. 14:03 Par to Newquay due 14:55 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a train fault. Road transport will be in operation between Par and Newquay. 12:42 Newquay to Par due 13:30 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a train fault. Road transport will be in operation between Newquay and Par. 11:28 Par to Newquay due 12:00 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a train fault. Road transport will be in operation between Par and Newquay. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: vacman on October 13, 2007, 22:45:28 Wouldn't worry too much, the service is so crap that literally noone uses it! and Par-Nqy is quicker by bus than by train! The crap service on the line was cut by BR though in the 80's and been the same ever since! Cornwalls second largest town and only 4 trains a day with a 6 hour gap in the afternoon!
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: devon_metro on October 14, 2007, 09:47:26 Hit the nail on the head there.
Despite AWFUL signposting its so much quicker to drive to Newquay (despite the awful signposting :P) Network Rail needs to invest in the line considerably if they wanted to make it viable. All it needs is a pacer, but obvsiouly they can't go on the line so that mean the 150 that is needed on the Triangle is running virtually empty through Cornwall when it could be busy on the busiest routes in Devon and perhaps Cornwall! Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: vacman on October 14, 2007, 09:57:22 If it's any consolation the Newquay 150 is used on the morning and evening peak Gunnislake services, hence the large gap in the afternoon and no train til 1018 in the morning and the Gunnislake is very busy in the peaks.
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on November 29, 2007, 16:13:31 From the FGW website :
14:52 Newquay to Gunnislake due 17:20 This train will be started from Par.It will no longer call at: Newquay, Quintrell Downs, St Columb Road, Roche, Bugle and Luxulyan.This is due to a member of train crew being unavailable. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: oooooo on November 30, 2007, 00:36:08 From the FGW website : 14:52 Newquay to Gunnislake due 17:20 This train will be started from Par.It will no longer call at: Newquay, Quintrell Downs, St Columb Road, Roche, Bugle and Luxulyan.This is due to a member of train crew being unavailable. the 11:24 PAR to NQY, 12:42 NQY to PAR and 14:00 PAR to NQY were also cancelled along with the mid morning trip on the Looe branch due to conductor shortage... Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on February 05, 2008, 14:49:28 From the FGW website :
Quote Train services between Par and Newquay are being disrupted due to a landslip in the Luxulyan area.Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice cancellations can be expected. Road replacement transport is in operation between Par and Newquay. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: slippy on February 01, 2009, 19:10:55 The Newquay Branch is reported as 'closed until at least Thursday' due to a landslip near Luxulyan. Wont be many trains to Newquay this month then with the forthcoming engineering work...
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 03, 2009, 23:24:23 Update from the FGW site this evening:
Quote Line problem between Par and Newquay. Train services are being disrupted due to an earlier landslip between Par and Newquay. Short notice cancellations can be expected. The train services have been suspended and road replacement transport is in operation. Train services are expected to resume on Friday 6th February. Last Updated: 03/02/2009 20:49 Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 04, 2009, 23:46:54 ... and a further update, this evening:
Quote Par to Newquay The branch line will remain closed all day following a landslip earlier in the week. Replacement road services are operating. It is currently expected that this line will remain closed until Saturday. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 05, 2009, 21:59:19 ... and another update from the FGW site:
Quote Par to Newquay Train services between Par and Newquay are suspended due to a landslip and the line is not expected to reopen until Monday 9th February 2009 at the earliest. ::) Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 07, 2009, 21:52:09 ... and, with news of yet another shift of the proposed re-opening of the line,
Quote Line problem between Par and Newquay. ... Train services are expected to resume from 19:00 on Monday 9th February. Last Updated: 07/02/2009 19:33 Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: devon_metro on February 07, 2009, 22:52:32 Whats the point in running the last service??
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: vacman on February 07, 2009, 23:07:53 Whats the point in running the last service?? I bet you'd moan if it were replaced by a bus!Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: devon_metro on February 07, 2009, 23:15:55 True, although as units are no longer stabled at Par, won't it need to be run from somewhere to get to Par?
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 08, 2009, 18:06:49 Some good news, chaps! ;D
From the FGW site: Quote Line problem between Par and Newquay. Train services are now running normally between Par and Newquay. Engineers have worked as fast as possible to restore services to normal. There is no Sunday timetable train service, Network Rail have confirmed train services are expected to resume from the start of service on Monday 9th February to the scheduled timetable. Last Updated: 08/02/2009 16:09 Well done, Network Rail! :D Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on February 08, 2009, 23:07:04 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/relex109/3260998234/)
one gold star to n r Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Ollie on February 08, 2009, 23:16:32 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/relex109/3260998234/) one gold star to n r Nah just half a gold star due to the amount of times the date got changed. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on November 17, 2009, 20:22:42 From the Cornish Guardian: (http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/cornishguardian/home/cornishguardiannews/users-Newquay-branch-line/article-1524227-detail/article.html)
Quote More users than ever on Newquay branch line The number of people using the Newquay to Par railway branch line this year has broken all records ^ with three months' usage still to be added to the total before the year is finished. A total of 63,120 one way tickets were sold this year, smashing the previous record high of 60,832, set in 2004, with three months' figures still to come this year. Now the Friends of the Atlantic Coastline (FoCAL) would like to see these high numbers of train users result in better funding, facilities and services for those choosing to travel by train. A delighted Alan Nicholson-Florence, vice chairman of FoCAL, said: "Everyone involved with FoCAL is delighted at the numbers using the branch line. "In 2004, there were eight trains in action which obviously resulted in the 60,000 using the branch line. But this year we only have seven trains, so to get this high number of users is incredible. "This can't be anything but good news for the future of the branch line. When we had Lord Adonis here in April, he said about increasing the number of people using the trains in order to try and securing more funding." The final three months of the year could result in a total of 70,000 people using the branch line for travel. "With the eco-town to be built, which could see the train line utilised more in Cornwall, this should add more weight to our claims that with more funding and more services the line would be used more," added Alan. If this keeps increasing, Cornwall Council will surely be looking at how, with National Rail and the Regional Development Agency, further improvements can be made on the line. As part of the eco-town plans an additional train station is planned to be built in Trewoon, and more train tracks installed to create a service between Newquay and St Austell. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Timmer on November 17, 2009, 21:02:04 Excellent news which proves that in the main if you run extra services people will use them so well done FGW for increasing services on this line.
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: caliwag on November 17, 2009, 22:04:37 This might be posted elsewhere, but
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/cornishguardian/home/cornishguardiannews/users-Newquay-branch-line/article-1524227-detail/article.html Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: vacman on November 17, 2009, 22:07:41 Excellent news which proves that in the main if you run extra services people will use them so well done FGW for increasing services on this line. which they done without any external funding!Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: inspector_blakey on November 17, 2009, 22:11:15 Thanks caliwag, already posted here:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=5703.0 (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=5703.0) Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Bob_Blakey on November 18, 2009, 19:45:18 And possibly some more good news in that Ryanair have already announced the withdrawal of their services to/from Newquay, and on the local bulletin today Flybe were quoted as saying that the recent increase in Air Passenger Duty has put the future of some of their routes at risk.
Some of the traffic will undoubtedly transfer to rail if flights are reduced, and it wouldn't be just the Newquay branch that benefits. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Rogang on November 18, 2009, 20:39:39 The report is very possitive, and I don't want to undermine any of it, but - how many of the additional users are 'locals'?
The recent weekday closure for engineering work saw quite low loadings on the replacement buses, and the single 153 on the branch can easily cope through the winter. Loadings on the seasonal trains from Paddington/Reading have been higher this year than last I believe, with probably the same on the services from the North. The summer 'extras' will always be there, and the extra local 'all-year' services are obviously working, but I would question if the sucess is as good as some of the other 'rejuvinated' branch lines in the UK. I remain, however, firmly in support of local initiatives such as the Atlantic Line, and have great respect for the local action groups. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: vacman on November 19, 2009, 00:21:33 The XC services to Newquay this year were running empty most of the time, I think the airlines have really seen off that market from the North, but, the Pad-Nqy services numbers were up, latest rumour is that XC won't be going to newquay next year, but only a rumour and not from a good source.
As for locals, there are a lot more travelling from intermediate stations on the branch now. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on November 19, 2009, 10:03:43 XC would have to get the specification changed if they were to cease running to Newquay, so that would be interesting if true (vacman's flagging his source up as not good noted).
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Tim on November 19, 2009, 10:34:55 The report is very possitive, and I don't want to undermine any of it, but - how many of the additional users are 'locals'? Why does it matter? The local communities benefit regardless of whether it is a local or a tourist. Every trip is either an car off the roads of a journey made by someone who would have otherwise stayed at home or gone elsewhere. Well done FGW for doing this and without extra subsidy too and for the friends group that supports the line. It does beg the question why not elsewhere (Melksham for example where there are plenty of potential travellers and some notable locals with commitment to the line and its promotion). Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: vacman on November 19, 2009, 12:14:10 The report is very possitive, and I don't want to undermine any of it, but - how many of the additional users are 'locals'? Why does it matter? The local communities benefit regardless of whether it is a local or a tourist. Every trip is either an car off the roads of a journey made by someone who would have otherwise stayed at home or gone elsewhere. Well done FGW for doing this and without extra subsidy too and for the friends group that supports the line. It does beg the question why not elsewhere (Melksham for example where there are plenty of potential travellers and some notable locals with commitment to the line and its promotion). It is quite amazing now to go out to Newquay and have to stop at nearly all intermediete stations, even in winter, unheard of previously! Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris2 on November 19, 2009, 12:22:31 The intermediate stations are getting busier, people are realising the tickets are good value, and the times are convenient, it has been helped by marketing leaflets organised by RichardB from the Devon and Cornwall rail partnership. It also helps that the local line has regularly been covered by the local press, encouraging people to use the trains. The Focal group is also doing a good job in promoting the line.
A couple of there future aims are to get a sunday service on the line all year, and to get a local service to Newquay for intermediate stations on summer saturdays, this would be easier if crosscountry withdrew there services. I was speaking to a memeber of staff on the train and FGW are looking to see if the linespeed can be increased, which would help local services and intercity services during the summer. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Plymboi on November 27, 2009, 15:35:53 Living in Newquay myself. I really fidn the Trains awful for getting to east-bound Cornwall. It takes 20 mins by car and around One Hour and bit to get to Truro by train. Any update on the Newquay-St Austell line?
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris2 on November 27, 2009, 16:38:17 Living in Newquay myself. I really fidn the Trains awful for getting to east-bound Cornwall. It takes 20 mins by car and around One Hour and bit to get to Truro by train. Any update on the Newquay-St Austell line? Going West from Newquay it makes sense to drive, as it is much quicker. The Newquay to St. Austell line is an aspiration of the FOCAL group and integrated into the St. Austell eco town plans as far as I can tell, so it will be at least ten years before anything is realised in my opinion. The following link has details about the proposed loop http://www.focal.org.uk/loop.htm (http://www.focal.org.uk/loop.htm) Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: slippy on November 30, 2009, 08:53:32 . Loadings on the seasonal trains from Paddington/Reading have been higher this year than last I believe, with probably the same on the services from the North. The XC service to NQY this year have definately suffered VERY low numbers. I find it hard to believe FGWs are up?? Travelled on the 'ACE' on several peak Saturdays and there was plenty of space. I also dont recall seeing much lugguage pilled up in the additional TGS, unlike previous years when you couldn't even see in the windows!! Also, surely the quote of 'more users than EVER on the Newquay branch' isnt true?? Thought official figures only exsist for the last 5/6 years?? Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: vacman on December 01, 2009, 19:36:52 . Loadings on the seasonal trains from Paddington/Reading have been higher this year than last I believe, with probably the same on the services from the North. The XC service to NQY this year have definately suffered VERY low numbers. I find it hard to believe FGWs are up?? Travelled on the 'ACE' on several peak Saturdays and there was plenty of space. I also dont recall seeing much lugguage pilled up in the additional TGS, unlike previous years when you couldn't even see in the windows!! Also, surely the quote of 'more users than EVER on the Newquay branch' isnt true?? Thought official figures only exsist for the last 5/6 years?? Best thing XC can do is pull out of Cornwall completely, then on summer saturdays have a mix of HST's/units on the Newquay with units stopping at all intermediete stations. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Lee on December 01, 2009, 19:42:35 Best thing XC can do is pull out of Cornwall completely, then on summer saturdays have a mix of HST's/units on the Newquay with units stopping at all intermediete stations. Are you sure you want them to pull out of Cornwall completely, or just from Newquay? Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: vacman on December 02, 2009, 13:01:30 Best thing XC can do is pull out of Cornwall completely, then on summer saturdays have a mix of HST's/units on the Newquay with units stopping at all intermediete stations. Are you sure you want them to pull out of Cornwall completely, or just from Newquay? Who wants to travel on a crappy voyager anyway? Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: The Tall Controller on December 03, 2009, 19:31:57 Best thing XC can do is pull out of Cornwall completely, then on summer saturdays have a mix of HST's/units on the Newquay with units stopping at all intermediete stations. Are you sure you want them to pull out of Cornwall completely, or just from Newquay? Who wants to travel on a crappy voyager anyway? I know many people wont back me up on this but I have yet to experience a bad trip in a voyager and I travel up to Coventry so a good 5-6 hours spent in one per trip! Im glad XC run into cornwall because the last thing i want to do is to haul heavy bags around Birmingham and Bristol/Plymouth. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: JayMac on December 03, 2009, 22:32:06 Best thing XC can do is pull out of Cornwall completely, then on summer saturdays have a mix of HST's/units on the Newquay with units stopping at all intermediete stations. Are you sure you want them to pull out of Cornwall completely, or just from Newquay? Who wants to travel on a crappy voyager anyway? I know many people wont back me up on this but I have yet to experience a bad trip in a voyager and I travel up to Coventry so a good 5-6 hours spent in one per trip! Im glad XC run into cornwall because the last thing i want to do is to haul heavy bags around Birmingham and Bristol/Plymouth. if travelling Off-Peak you can save a few bob and avoid Birmingham altogether. Off Peak fares from Cornwall via Reading to Coventry are cheaper than via Birmingham. Only 30 mins longer journey time with a more civilised, usually cross-platform, interchange at Reading. If sticking with AXC and ther god-awful Voyagers then don't forget to split your fare at Cheltenham to save a fair bit over the through fare. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: slippy on December 04, 2009, 00:02:29 I still dont believe the 'More users than EVER on the Newquay branch', is this correct???
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris2 on December 04, 2009, 09:20:30 I still dont believe the 'More users than EVER on the Newquay branch', is this correct??? As I understand the figures, the figures exist only for the last 5 or 6 years, and this year has beaten all of those figures.Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: RichardB on December 04, 2009, 09:35:35 On the figures, we have them dating back to 2001 - Andrew Griffiths kicked it off in Wessex days and FGW have carried it on. Yes, the Newquay figures are the best since then. They only cover the DMU services - HSTs are included in the mainline statistics which I don't see.
As for the last two years we have had the weekday HST replacng a DMU in July and August, the figures are of course a good deal lower than they would have been if the whole weekday service was still DMU only. This makes this year's figures to date an even better result than they look at first sight. "More users than ever" is probably a bit of journalistic licence but I didn't say that.......ooops. PS You'll be hearing a lot more about the branch line journey figures in the next few weeks. I'll keep you posted. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: slippy on December 04, 2009, 12:54:23 Thanks Richard, good news. Look forward to some more stats ;D
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: inspector_blakey on December 05, 2009, 15:52:32 I've split off the discussion about Voyagers vs HSTs (and everything else) that was happening here - you'll now find it in "Across the West" given its broad relevance.
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: slippy on December 18, 2009, 13:19:15 I still dont believe the 'More users than EVER on the Newquay branch', is this correct??? It is a rather crap headline as apparently the Newquay figures for 1923 were just over 102,000 a good deal more than this years 'more users than ever'.. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Branch Line Connor on December 22, 2009, 16:40:11 Crosscountry don't really need a service to Cornwall, Fgw's dmu's are just as good as there voyagers ???
Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 07, 2010, 19:39:45 From FGW live updates:
Quote Line incident Line problem between Par and Newquay. Train services are being disrupted due to a line-side fire between Par and Newquay. Short notice alterations and cancellations can be expected. We are currently unable to operate train services in either direction between Par and Newquay whilst emergency services deal with a line-side fire at Luxulyan. Replacement road transport has been arranged although it is not possible for the replacement road transport to serve Luxulyan station. Customers will need to allow extra time in order to complete their journey. It is anticipated that the railway line will have to remain closed on Thursday 8th July 2010. Should this be the case then replacement road transport will operate instead of train services. Last Updated: 07/07/2010 19:31 Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: LiskeardRich on July 08, 2010, 00:14:59 more details can be found at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/10547507.stm
this news story was posted at 2200 hours so good to see the bbc still cant keep you up to date with stories Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: JayMac on July 08, 2010, 05:52:21 Bit unfair. Story posted just 5 hours after the fire started. Better to gather the facts and be accurate than rush to print.
Also, hardly an earth shatteringly important news item. Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Ollie on July 09, 2010, 00:57:13 So basically the BBC be reporting any incident the moment it happens otherwise they get slated?
You know the BBC News website gives ways of contacting them with a story, so if you feel something is not on the website quick enough you could always ask them? Title: Re: Newquay Branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics) Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 13, 2010, 17:29:53 From FGW live updates:
Quote Line problem between Par and Newquay. Train services between Par and Newquay are being disrupted due to a landslip. Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice cancellations can be expected. Rail service suspended for the remainder of today -Saturday-. Road replacement transport will operate between St Austell and Newquay for the remainder of the day. Customers for Newquay should change at ST AUSTELL and not Par. Last Updated: 13/11/2010 16:38 Service incidents 17:21 Newquay to Par due 18:10 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a landslip. Road Replacement transport will operate between Newquay and St Austell Last Updated: 13/11/2010 16:29 18:21 Par to Newquay due 19:13 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a landslip. Road Replacement transport will operate between St Austell and Newquay Last Updated: 13/11/2010 16:28 19:19 Newquay to Par due 20:04 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a landslip. Road Replacement transport will operate between Newquay and St Austell Last Updated: 13/11/2010 16:31 20:15 Par to Newquay due 21:07 This train has been cancelled. This is due to a landslip. Road Replacement transport will operate between St Austell and Newquay Last Updated: 13/11/2010 16:28 21:15 Newquay to Plymouth due 23:11 This train will be started from Par. It will no longer call at: Newquay, Quintrell Downs, St Columb Road, Roche, Bugle and Luxulyan. This is due to a landslip. Road Replacement transport will operate between Newquay and St Austell Last Updated: 13/11/2010 16:33 This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |