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All across the Great Western territory => Across the West => Topic started by: Mookiemoo on December 29, 2007, 18:13:22



Title: First can do something well
Post by: Mookiemoo on December 29, 2007, 18:13:22
Just not if its GW!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!


Title: Re: First can do something well
Post by: Timmer on December 29, 2007, 19:31:26
Just not if its GW!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!
May look like a turbo but its a class 185 which was recently introduced on the Transpenine route. GW inherited a number of the stock that the 185s has replaced in the form of 2 car 158s and 1 three car 158.

Just shows what new rolling stock can do for a TOC if DaFT specify the requirement for new rolling stock in the franchise agreement. There is no requirement for FGW to provide any new rolling stock during the life of the current GW franchise  :(


Title: Re: First can do something well
Post by: Mookiemoo on December 29, 2007, 20:00:24
Just not if its GW!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!
May look like a turbo but its a class 185 which was recently introduced on the Transpenine route. GW inherited a number of the stock that the 185s has replaced in the form of 2 car 158s and 1 three car 158.

Just shows what new rolling stock can do for a TOC if DaFT specify the requirement for new rolling stock in the franchise agreement. There is no requirement for FGW to provide any new rolling stock during the life of the current GW franchise  :(

Yeah - I knew it was a 185 (I've started looking at the numbers on the front) but I didnt want to sound like a trainspotter (which mymother accused me of being today!) :-[


Title: Re: First can do something well
Post by: dog box on December 29, 2007, 20:09:16
Just not if its GW!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!
May look like a turbo but its a class 185 which was recently introduced on the Transpenine route. GW inherited a number of the stock that the 185s has replaced in the form of 2 car 158s and 1 three car 158.

Just shows what new rolling stock can do for a TOC if DaFT specify the requirement for new rolling stock in the franchise agreement. There is no requirement for FGW to provide any new rolling stock during the life of the current GW franchise  :(

Yeah - I knew it was a 185 (I've started looking at the numbers on the front) but I didnt want to sound like a trainspotter (which mymother accused me of being today!) :-[
think you already are .....next thing you will be off to Exeter to ride a 142, and you will then never knock a turbo again!!!


Title: Re: First can do something well
Post by: Mookiemoo on December 30, 2007, 01:25:18
Just not if its GW!

On a rather nice and new looking First Transpenine express train from liverpool to manchester!

Have to say it LOOK like a turbo in colour - but is so much better!
May look like a turbo but its a class 185 which was recently introduced on the Transpenine route. GW inherited a number of the stock that the 185s has replaced in the form of 2 car 158s and 1 three car 158.

Just shows what new rolling stock can do for a TOC if DaFT specify the requirement for new rolling stock in the franchise agreement. There is no requirement for FGW to provide any new rolling stock during the life of the current GW franchise  :(

Yeah - I knew it was a 185 (I've started looking at the numbers on the front) but I didnt want to sound like a trainspotter (which mymother accused me of being today!) :-[
think you already are .....next thing you will be off to Exeter to ride a 142, and you will then never knock a turbo again!!!

Nope!!!!!!!

As I said to dearest mommy

I only know what I need to know to make sure my journey is as stress free as possible

So for FGW I am only really concerned with HST/165/166/180  - I know how to recognise the difference and I know the impact on my journey of each and which to avoid and wait for the next train.

I know arriva and I know my route which runs 175's - preferable - 158s - if they must and then today when they pulled 150s from the cardiff routes to run milford haven to manchester!

When I got on a 150 at ludlow and then quizzed the TM as to why 150s were running (wasnt sure where/what they were for other than they werent normal for cardiff - manchester) and got told "unit failures"

So on the way home I went Liverpool - oxford road and picked up the train there rather than going liverpool - crewe - got home an hour  later but did get on at the start so had choice of seats rather than the crewe rugby scrum.

Incidentally it was a 175 so no need to worry but the earlier train which is the one I would have got had I gone to crewe was a 150 (I would have waited 90 minutes at crewe for something decent rather than 35 for the 150) and the next one was a bus!


Title: Re: First can do something well
Post by: gaf71 on December 30, 2007, 07:04:44
Passengers in the Exeter area would give almost anything to ride in a 150! At least they are relatively reliable. You don't know you are born up north! ;D


Title: Re: First can do something well
Post by: devon_metro on December 30, 2007, 10:26:07
If pacers ran virtually empty all the time they would be fine. But they don't.

I miss my peace hiding behind the tall seats on the 150s  ;)



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