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Title: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: bobm on January 25, 2014, 04:56:26 pm
Update - "On this Day", 25th January 2022 ... I will add on the end of the thread
At: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=13495.msg317610#msg317610

From the  FGW Website (http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Your-journey/Travel-connections/Rail-Fly)
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(http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/~/media/Images/Your%20Journey/Singapor%20%20FGW.ashx?)

First Great Western and Singapore Airlines are proud to announce the launch of through-ticketing from selected towns and cities in the South West and those served by Singapore Airlines' route network from London Heathrow Airport, including the Heathrow Express rail link between Paddington Station and the airport.  Travellers will therefore be able to purchase a ticket for hundreds of different route options such as Cardiff to Singapore, or Sydney to Plymouth, etc. 

The stations on our network which will be open to these arrangements are as follows:
 
Bath Spa
Bristol Parkway
Bristol Temple Meads
Cardiff Central
Exeter St. David's
Oxford
Par
Penzance
Plymouth
St Austell
Swansea                       

Booking may be made by any IATA travel agent. 

Visit the Rail Fly website (http://www.rail-fly.com/) for more information.


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: ellendune on January 25, 2014, 05:31:02 pm
I didn't notice them building the Heathrow western link - and right onto the apron as well! Presumably they have a special bridge to get straight from an HST to the plane  :)


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: grahame on January 25, 2014, 08:17:33 pm
Cardiff to Singapore, or Sydney to Plymouth, etc.

Par to Noumea  ;)

Kuala Lumpur to Melksham  ::)

And before you wonder at that last one ... it's a frequent journey to us!


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: bobm on January 25, 2014, 08:22:39 pm
What about split tickets.... ;D ;D


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: Pb_devon on January 26, 2014, 08:55:08 am
"What about split tickets" indeed!

Takes the whole art to a new level....... Melksham to Kuala Lumpur - split at Swindon and Dubai.  Anyone know where to find the Singapore Airlines Fare & Routing guide to check if a flight actually has to stop for a split to be valid?  ;D


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: chuffed on January 26, 2014, 09:02:50 am
Think First already have a link with Singapore BUSES! I asked them this week if the refurbished luxury interior, free wi fi specifications of the X2 X3 Bristol Portishead buses actually included heating .....because I have yet to travel on a bus with any heating yet, so far this winter. Their reply was, that it could only be done by the mechanics at the depot. I did ask sarcastically if the buses had been imported from Singapore....


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: Phil on January 26, 2014, 11:43:52 am
*secretly hopes this means job shares and we start seeing Singapore Airlines stewardesses working on FGW trains...*



Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: JayMac on January 26, 2014, 12:55:52 pm
Gimmick.

I'd much rather see FGW offer integrated travel/tickets with local bus operators on a more consisitent and passenger friendly basis. If it can be done with international airlines then it can't be beyond the wit of man to do so with buses running in the same country.


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: Pb_devon on January 26, 2014, 01:28:47 pm
Point well made BNM


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: Ollie on January 26, 2014, 01:38:46 pm
Gimmick.

I'd much rather see FGW offer integrated travel/tickets with local bus operators on a more consisitent and passenger friendly basis. If it can be done with international airlines then it can't be beyond the wit of man to do so with buses running in the same country.

Something like.. PlusBus?


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: JayMac on January 26, 2014, 01:46:52 pm
Something like.. PlusBus?

How does one get that at the start of one's journey by bus? Same applies to combined Rail/Bus tickets.

How does someone living in an area served by buses, but not in a PlusBus area, benefit?

I'd like FGW (and other TOCs) to do more locally, rather than gimmicky tie-ins with international airlines which get them a few column inches, but probably little extra custom.


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: andy_89uk on January 27, 2014, 08:45:46 pm
Interesting... http://rail-fly.com/
Anyone have any inside info on the SaverExpress, FlexiExpress & BusinessExpress FGW/HEX fares?


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: Brucey on January 27, 2014, 09:32:48 pm
I notice that "online check in" for the rail portion is done at http://www.accesrail.com/checkin/, who appear to already have tie-ups with DB, Renfe and Trenitalia.  Therefore I am assuming the rail ticket is issued in the form of an electronic ticket to print at home.


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: Ollie on January 28, 2014, 11:19:09 am
Something like.. PlusBus?

How does one get that at the start of one's journey by bus? Same applies to combined Rail/Bus tickets.

How does someone living in an area served by buses, but not in a PlusBus area, benefit?

I'd like FGW (and other TOCs) to do more locally, rather than gimmicky tie-ins with international airlines which get them a few column inches, but probably little extra custom.

Admit it's not available for all areas, but it is a growing scheme.

As with any of our tickets they can be bought in advance from station or over phone/internet - downside would be you need to have it posted if you're not able to collect it before needing to use the bus.

I'm not sure how you would have an alternative way of processing the ticket though. Unless the bus company was able to sell train tickets too, but I think that may confuse things further for a bus driver who doesn't have long to deal with a transaction at the side of the road.


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: grahame on January 28, 2014, 11:40:17 am
I'm not sure how you would have an alternative way of processing the ticket though. Unless the bus company was able to sell train tickets too, but I think that may confuse things further for a bus driver who doesn't have long to deal with a transaction at the side of the road.

Pay the bus driver a fiver for a "Plus Bus Starter" ticket, to be taken as credit towards your plus bus journey ticket purchased from the station counter when you switch from rubber to steel?   Of course that assumes a counter will be open at the station and you won't find that you're faced with just a TVM.


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: Rhydgaled on January 28, 2014, 12:41:57 pm
I'm not sure how you would have an alternative way of processing the ticket though. Unless the bus company was able to sell train tickets too, but I think that may confuse things further for a bus driver who doesn't have long to deal with a transaction at the side of the road.

Pay the bus driver a fiver for a "Plus Bus Starter" ticket, to be taken as credit towards your plus bus journey ticket purchased from the station counter when you switch from rubber to steel?   Of course that assumes a counter will be open at the station and you won't find that you're faced with just a TVM.
Or just a TM (train manager), if boarding somewhere without ticket issuing facilities. Maybe that'd be the answer, let passengers board and buy from the guard if they have a 'bus starter' ticket?


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: JayMac on January 28, 2014, 12:43:36 pm
You always hear excuses from the rail industry as to why further integrated ticketing between bus and rail is not possible. It is not impossible currently, and with smart card technology it gets even easier.

I'd prefer transport providers in the UK to concentrate their efforts in this area, make the existing offers easier to purchase and expand them further. I cannot, for instance get one through bus and rail ticket from Lawrence Weston in Bristol to Curry Rivel in Somerset, despite the opportunity to travel throughout with one parent company, First.

Even where it was possible to travel to relatives in another part of Somerset with a Rail/Bus ticket, I still needed to get to Bristol Temple Meads, as the particular fare was not available from my local station. At Bristol Temple Meads I could only get this ticket from the ticket office, and even then I would regularly encounter problems, with clerks telling me, variously:

  • "There's no station in Dulverton" (I know)
  • "Dulverton Bus is not a valid destination"
  • "I don't think I can sell that"
  • "It won't be accepted on the bus"

With, on one occasion, a flat refusal to even sell the ticket despite the clerk agreeing it was in the system.

When I regularly used this ticket I never faced a problem with bus drivers.

Let's have integrated transport (or at least through ticketing) sorted in this country before we start gimmicky tie-ins with long haul airlines.


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: bobm on February 05, 2014, 10:56:43 pm
For the record - here is the liveried power car in its proper environment...

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/swafly.jpg)


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: grahame on January 25, 2022, 09:55:45 am
Seven years ago!

For the record - here is the liveried power car in its proper environment...

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/swafly.jpg)


and a picture from the publicity video at the time. Came up "on this day"

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fgwsing.jpg)

In the new era, how did this link get on?   Is the connection still there?  Is it a way for the future?

I notice looking back that the original thread headed of to talk about integrated tickets with buses rather than planes, which strikes me as a much more often-sought requirement ... and I have started to think forward to long distance expresses using the Old Oak to Euston link with perhaps a rapid transit just along the Euston Road for interchange with "London Main Station".   Melksham to Munich by train?  (and , yes, I have done, but the ticket wasn't available from the machine!)


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: bobm on January 25, 2022, 10:05:19 am
Well the website is no more and the HST power car with the livery is now in Scotland.


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 25, 2022, 02:10:50 pm
Rail replacement plane?


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: eightonedee on January 25, 2022, 07:19:22 pm
....or plane replacement train!


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: JayMac on January 25, 2022, 07:47:38 pm
....or plane replacement train!

I'd like to see a HST set make it to Singapore!

Actually, thought experiment. Could it be done wholly by rail? Ignoring geopolitics. 4ft 8 1⁄2in all the way. Say, Swansea to Singapore...


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: grahame on January 25, 2022, 08:29:30 pm
....or plane replacement train!

I'd like to see a HST set make it to Singapore!

Actually, thought experiment. Could it be done wholly by rail? Ignoring geopolitics. 4ft 8 1⁄2in all the way. Say, Swansea to Singapore...

I suspect you would need to switch go a bit further north into 5ft 3in land.

"Race Across The World" season 1 was Greenwich to Singapore.   There were significant road and water sections on it, but at least some of them were forced by intermediate checkpoints, or in some places passenger rail being so much slower than long distance coach.


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: TonyK on February 02, 2022, 08:21:42 pm
....or plane replacement train!

I'd like to see a HST set make it to Singapore!

Actually, thought experiment. Could it be done wholly by rail? Ignoring geopolitics. 4ft 8 1⁄2in all the way. Say, Swansea to Singapore...

There is now a continuous railway, but a few changes of gauge along the way. Once Russia decides it's had enough of 1520 mm, that could change. Or there could be more of this:

(https://i.insider.com/542bed496bb3f746288eceb3?width=960)


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: stuving on February 02, 2022, 08:39:56 pm
There is now a continuous railway, but a few changes of gauge along the way. Once Russia decides it's had enough of 1520 mm, that could change. Or there could be more of this:

More what - railway museums? If you hunt the origin of that picture, on Wikipedia, it is captioned:
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Triple gauge, from left: 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in), 1,000 mm (3 ft 3+3⁄8 in), and 600 mm (1 ft 11+5⁄8 in), on display at the China Railway Museum in Beijing

... which does at least tally with putting a ruler up against the screen!


Title: Re: FGW announce link with Singapore Airlines
Post by: TonyK on February 03, 2022, 08:09:38 pm
There is now a continuous railway, but a few changes of gauge along the way. Once Russia decides it's had enough of 1520 mm, that could change. Or there could be more of this:

More what - railway museums? If you hunt the origin of that picture, on Wikipedia, it is captioned:
Quote
Triple gauge, from left: 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in), 1,000 mm (3 ft 3+3⁄8 in), and 600 mm (1 ft 11+5⁄8 in), on display at the China Railway Museum in Beijing

... which does at least tally with putting a ruler up against the screen!

Yes, another couple of thousand miles to add to the 100 metres or so in existence.



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