Great Western Coffee Shop

All across the Great Western territory => The Wider Picture - related rail and other transport issues => Topic started by: a-driver on August 02, 2014, 19:31:38



Title: Virgin Trains OHL failure
Post by: a-driver on August 02, 2014, 19:31:38
Seems to be some carnage on Virgin Trains West Coast route following overhead power line problems.  Passengers report being trapped on trains for nearly 5 hours with no information, refreshments or air con.

https://twitter.com/mjcole/status/495632665211854848
https://twitter.com/blackmbn/status/495607208215072768

Frankie Boyle seems to be caught up in the problems and is none to pleased judging by his tweet (it does contain offensive language)
https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/495599990476382210


Title: Re: Virgin Trains OHL failure
Post by: ChrisB on August 02, 2014, 19:58:55
What we can expect under wires I guess.

And we thought last Friday was bad...


Title: Re: Virgin Trains OHL failure
Post by: a-driver on August 02, 2014, 20:08:15
What we can expect under wires I guess.

And we thought last Friday was bad...

Goes to show problems aren't specific to FGW if it can happen to the mighty Virgin Trains.

Whole industry needs to sit down and rethink how they deal with such situations more effectively..... and tear up that McNulty report!


Title: Re: Virgin Trains OHL failure
Post by: ellendune on August 02, 2014, 21:34:26
What we can expect under wires I guess.

And we thought last Friday was bad...

Not necessarily because:

1) The overhead line equipment on the GW is to a new design that is supposed to be more robust that he equipment previously used;

2) The much maligned (even by me) IEPs have standby diesel engines that will be able to move the train at low speed even when the power has failed.


Title: Re: Virgin Trains OHL failure
Post by: ChrisB on August 03, 2014, 07:21:52
True, possibly far enough to get them into the next section unaffected.

Only priblem would be if wires were down on the line they were on, I guess, then they would still need for the obstruction to be cleared first


Title: Re: Virgin Trains OHL failure
Post by: ellendune on August 03, 2014, 08:52:13
Only priblem would be if wires were down on the line they were on, I guess, then they would still need for the obstruction to be cleared first

That is where the other bit comes in. The more robust OLE


Title: Re: Virgin Trains OHL failure
Post by: IndustryInsider on August 03, 2014, 11:51:57
And if a train does become stranded, then the diesel engines will be able to power the on-train trains systems, so air-con/lighting can still operate - possibly at a reduced level depending on how the systems are designed, but better than nothing.


Title: Re: Virgin Trains OHL failure
Post by: broadgage on August 03, 2014, 15:43:06
And if a train does become stranded, then the diesel engines will be able to power the on-train trains systems, so air-con/lighting can still operate - possibly at a reduced level depending on how the systems are designed, but better than nothing.

As I have stated elsewhere on these forums, I have very considerable reservations about the new trains. About the only point in their favour, IMHO is the fitting of standby diesel engines to the nominally electric units.
Being able to move at much reduced speed when the wires come down, as they assuredly will, is a great advantage, as is the ability to run on board services in such circumstances.



This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net