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Title: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: bobm on September 14, 2015, 07:02:33 am
Sunday night's 17:07 from Manchester Piccadilly to Plymouth has spent the night at Dawlish after a large wave disabled the electrics just before 21:45.

Attempts to move it by using another Voyager on a service from Glasgow didn't succeed after the brakes couldn't be released on the original train.

Passengers were eventually evacuated around 02:00.

Engineers have managed a temporary repair and it is hoped to get the train back to Exeter shortly. In the meantime there have been some alterations to stopping services between Exeter and Newton Abbot.

I knew my ^5.90 First Class advance from Teignmouth to Plymouth on the failed train was too good to be true!


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: TaplowGreen on September 14, 2015, 08:53:47 am
..............is this an example of "train surfing" which I've been hearing about?  ;)


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: grahame on September 14, 2015, 09:09:40 am
Posted in wrong thread - sorry.

Moved to http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=5604.msg182681#msg182681


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: ChrisB on September 14, 2015, 09:17:54 am
Not sure of the relevance to XC/Dawlish in that post Graham :-)

Some paths to tweedbank have been allocated to exceursion trains in the first two weeks? of the new timetable, after which the full timetable is being run.

Now, maybe these posts can be moved to the right thread? :-)


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: grahame on September 14, 2015, 09:29:33 am
Not sure of the relevance to XC/Dawlish in that post Graham :-)

Some paths to tweedbank have been allocated to exceursion trains in the first two weeks? of the new timetable, after which the full timetable is being run.

Now, maybe these posts can be moved to the right thread? :-)

Yeah ... looks like a finger error on my part.  I'll re-post up north!


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: eightf48544 on September 14, 2015, 12:46:06 pm
I suppose being all electronic controls they don't have "Strings" to release the brakes and move unfitted. Progress.


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: SandTEngineer on September 15, 2015, 09:00:12 pm
Noted this on another website http://www.delayattributionboard.co.uk/documents/guidancenotes/DAB-37%20%20XC%20unit%20failure%20@%20dawlish%20FINAL%20SignedL.pdf.  Interesting overview of the modern day railway....... ::) :P ;)


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: TonyK on September 15, 2015, 09:15:56 pm
Interesting overview of the modern day railway....... ::) :P ;)

The railway equivalent of the Dubious Goals Panel, with a touch of the Monty Python.


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: Western Pathfinder on September 15, 2015, 10:09:47 pm
Interesting overview of the modern day railway....... ::) :P ;)

The railway equivalent of the Dubious Goals Panel, with a touch of the Monty Python.

Time to invoke the Duckworth Lewis rule maybe !.


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: IndustryInsider on September 15, 2015, 10:36:28 pm
Interesting overview of the modern day railway....... ::) :P ;)

The railway equivalent of the Dubious Goals Panel, with a touch of the Monty Python.

When there's lots of money changing hands, these are the desperate (and rather sad for the maturity and integrity of the industry in my opinion) lengths that parties involved will go to.


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: ellendune on September 15, 2015, 11:01:45 pm
So what Ingress Protection (IP) rating is a the electrical equipment on a train supposed to have?

IP66 should have made it resistant to heavy seas or strong jets of water which would seem to be the minimum for a train.

The next step up would be IP67 housing which should have resisted temporary immersion. 

However, something tells me that they are probably only protected to IP65 - protection from low pressure water jets from all directions.   


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: ChrisB on September 16, 2015, 12:45:41 pm
Its the *salt* that is the problem I think


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: ellendune on September 16, 2015, 09:49:43 pm
Its the *salt* that is the problem I think

But surely if the water cannot get in nor can the salt that is in solution.


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: bignosemac on September 16, 2015, 09:59:24 pm
I think the salt content is irrelevant. If a couple thousand gallons of fresh water splashed over a 220/221 roof the set would still do a 'computer says no'.


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: a-driver on September 16, 2015, 11:59:38 pm
I think the salt content is irrelevant. If a couple thousand gallons of fresh water splashed over a 220/221 roof the set would still do a 'computer says no'.

Voyagers run through the train wash at depots which includes roof jets and it doesn't cause a problem.  I know it's not the same volume but it is still a substantial amount of water at high pressure
The only modification they've had done to date I think is just a software update which should have resulted in only the affected engines shutting down.


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 18, 2015, 01:29:39 am
From the North Devon Journal (http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/8203-Passengers-forced-evacuate-train-huge-wave/story-27801557-detail/story.html) - with a powerful image to illustrate the article:

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Passengers forced to evacuate train after huge wave destroys power

(http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276410/Article/images/27801557/10950009-large.jpg)
A train blasts through huge waves at Dawlish

Rail passengers were forced to evacuate a train using ladders after a huge wave crashed into the mainline service, killing the power.

Travellers were left in near darkness for four hours when the late night Sunday service was hit by a wall of water which wiped out the electrical system, leaving the service stranded.

The westbound service broke down between Dawlish and Teignmouth along the same stretch of track which was closed for weeks after last year's storms severed the line.

Campaigners for a more resilient infrastructure said the failure of a train to withstand a summer storm highlighted the fragility of the coastal route, which is regularly battered by breakers.

I think the train is muttering, "I'm a train, not a bluddy submarine: please stop chucking all that salt water over me!"  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: phile on October 06, 2016, 02:51:10 pm
As there have been strong easterly winds together with high tides over the last couple of days a number of Voyager worked trains have been canned through Dawlish.


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: SandTEngineer on October 06, 2016, 03:08:31 pm
As there have been strong easterly winds together with high tides over the last couple of days a number of Voyager worked trains have been canned through Dawlish.

The proper railway term is 'caped'  ;) :D :P


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: LiskeardRich on October 06, 2016, 03:56:11 pm
Mid morning and evening they've all been terminating at Exeter st Davids at least 3 days this week. It's been blowing in shore enough to bring in a long time dead whale!


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: chuffed on October 06, 2016, 04:09:53 pm
Hope there wasn't too much blubbering from the passengers .... ::) If the train or the whale had been travelling from the principality would we have had a lot of wailings about whales from Wales  ??


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: ChrisB on October 06, 2016, 04:20:41 pm
Sorry to spoil the party, but that whale was there last week.....


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: phile on October 06, 2016, 08:46:17 pm
As there have been strong easterly winds together with high tides over the last couple of days a number of Voyager worked trains have been canned through Dawlish.

The proper railway term is 'caped'  ;) :D :P

Canned is often used on Forums as slang


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 06, 2016, 09:20:27 pm
... or, for those terminally hard of hearing, 'AXED'.  :P ::) ;D


Title: Re: Voyager stranded at Dawlish - 13/14 Sep 15
Post by: LiskeardRich on November 28, 2016, 06:23:47 pm
And again 28.11.16

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Plymouth rail passengers are again facing major disruption with trains being cancelled because of large waves at Dawlish.

Crosscountry trains has cancelled services between 5pm and 7pm today “due to a combination of a high tide and forecast strong onshore winds this evening causing waves to overtop the seawall at Dawlish".

Three trains heading for Plymouth from Scotland are affected. Three trains leaving Plymouth will only run to Newton Abbot.

A number of Crosscountry trains have broken down after being hit by heavy spray at Dawlish. Passengers can switch to Great Western Railway services which have, so far, not been affected.


Read more at http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/trains-to-plymouth-cancelled-as-large-waves-hit-dawlish/story-29940904-detail/story.html#fp3pwSIdvPZ18c60.99



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