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Title: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: TonyK on September 28, 2015, 17:11:43 Heading for Swindon this morning, I boarded the 0900 PAD at BRI. Just before we we due to go, there was a message for the TM to contact the driver. Shortly afterwards, we were told the train would be diverted via BPW, not stopping at BTH or CPM. The reason given was "a problem" between Keynsham and Bath, although shortly afterwards the TM addressed us again. This time, he told pax heading for BTH to take the 0907 WSB train, and apologised for not knowing the best way to get to CPM. I figured this indicated a problem between BTH and CPM, and feared the worst.
We left BRI 10 minutes late. The journey from P13 To Dr Days junction was somewhat slow, noisy, and bumpy, possibly explaining in part why it doesn't happen out of choice. We arrived at SWI 3 minutes late. I have now seen the Weymouth to BPW service due out of BRI at 0910 was 24 late at Bath, then cancelled between BRI and BPW "due to person hit by train (XC)". Was this part of the same incident, or another completely separate issue? Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: ChrisB on September 28, 2015, 17:20:49 There were certainly tweets this morning about that line being blocked
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: brizzlechris on September 28, 2015, 17:23:52 Perhaps connected to this story...? http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Body-Saltford-thought-train-delays-Bristol-Bath/story-27883026-detail/story.html
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: ChrisB on September 28, 2015, 17:25:30 Want to try that link again? Not working for me...
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: brizzlechris on September 28, 2015, 17:30:00 Working fine for me - here's the Bath Chronicle instead... http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/Man-s-body-near-railway-track-Bath-Bristol/story-27882863-detail/story.html
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: ChrisB on September 28, 2015, 17:35:52 Must be that papers mobile site up the swanney then as that doesn't work either viewing on a mobile
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: bobm on September 28, 2015, 18:23:34 A body was found near the line at Twerton but it was quickly established that there was no railway involvement and the line reopened. The 07:30 London Paddington to Paignton was also delayed by around half an hour.
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: TonyK on September 28, 2015, 19:28:31 A body was found near the line at Twerton but it was quickly established that there was no railway involvement and the line reopened. The 07:30 London Paddington to Paignton was also delayed by around half an hour. Doesn't sound like that was the cause of my delay, then. Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: bobm on September 28, 2015, 19:36:38 I think it was. The decision was taken before the incident was deemed "non-railway".
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: plymothian on September 28, 2015, 19:44:08 08.50 a Member of public reported a body near the line, all trains on stop BRI-BTH
09.03 BTP in attendance and trains under caution 09.12 BTP advised the body was far enough away from the line to allow trains to run normally 15.00 - 16.00 up line closed due to forensic search So the decision to divert the 09.00 would have been taken before BTP declared the line could open. Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: TonyK on September 28, 2015, 20:06:46 Thanks plymothian - it was clearly a developing situation, and the TM was probably telling us all he knew as soon as he knew it. The timings explain it all, except possibly "cancelled between BRI and BPW "due to person hit by train (XC)" as shown in RTT. Was someone hit by a XC train?
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: bobm on September 28, 2015, 20:26:33 Confusingly XC is a delay attribution code as well as a TOC.
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: stuving on September 28, 2015, 20:41:34 Even more confusingly, 2D05 (GWR 0640 Weymouth to Bristol Parkway) shows as cancelled at Temple Meads "due to a person hit by a train (XC)." Of course that does not mean it was, maybe it was only suspected, or it was so late by then (24 minutes) there was little point finishing the trip.
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: TonyK on September 28, 2015, 21:00:38 Thanks folks. My education continues!
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: bobm on September 28, 2015, 21:06:12 As my dad used to say "the day you stop learning, you might as well give up". He died at 89.
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: Oberon on September 29, 2015, 20:44:00 I think this incident occurred to the train preceding the one I was preparing to catch to Bristol from Bath yesterday morning. It pulled into Bath's number one platform on time, then waited..and waited. There were no on-train announcements saying anything was wrong (thanks GWR) but outside I could see several members of staff and policemen chatting. I asked what the hold up was and eventually got out of one of the railway staff there had been a fatality ahead. I suppose we'll have to wait for a coroner's verdict to determine the cause of death.
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 30, 2015, 01:15:19 From the Bristol Post (http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Post-mortem-results-unexplained-Saltford-death/story-27887594-detail/story.html?utm_source=Local%20World&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5393136_Bristol%20Post%20RSS%20Newsletter&ito=email%2526source%3DLocal%20World%2526campaign%3D5393136_Bristol%20Post%20RSS%20Newsletter#1):
Quote Post-mortem results into 'unexplained' Saltford death expected today (http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276268/Article/images/27887594/11047064.jpg) Post-mortem results into 'unexplained' Saltford death expected today A post mortem is expected to take place into the unexplained death of a man near Saltford. Police spent yesterday scouring the railway line after a body was found on the footpath off the Bath Road. The man's identity remains a mystery and detectives are waiting for the forensic results before deciding whether foul play was involved. The body was found by a member of the public at 8.30am on Monday. Officers are currently treating his death as unexplained and enquiries are ongoing to identify him and trace his next of kin. Results of the post-mortem which hope to determine a cause of death are expected today. Trains between Bristol Temple Meads and Bath were cancelled for most of the day on Monday as officers carried out searches of the area. The body was thought to be found in a field next Stothert and Pitt Rugby Football Club and the railway track, about a mile out of Saltford towards Bath. A section of the shrub land remains cordoned off this morning and police are still on scene. Anyone with information about the incident is asked to call 101 quoting log number 150 of September 28. Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: BerkshireBugsy on September 30, 2015, 07:45:17 08.50 a Member of public reported a body near the line, all trains on stop BRI-BTH 09.03 BTP in attendance and trains under caution 09.12 BTP advised the body was far enough away from the line to allow trains to run normally 15.00 - 16.00 up line closed due to forensic search So the decision to divert the 09.00 would have been taken before BTP declared the line could open. I'm not an expert in the geography of the area but I was say 13 minutes is a pretty good response time Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: brizzlechris on September 30, 2015, 11:51:37 An update from Avon and Somerset Police:
Quote The death of a man whose body was found near Saltford on Monday is not being treated as suspicious. A formal identification procedure has not yet been carried out but we believe we^ve identified the man as a 41-year-old man from the Hertfordshire area. https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/newsroom/appeal-for-information-after-body-of-man-found-in-saltford/body-found-near-saltford-not-being-treated-as-suspicious/ Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: TonyK on September 30, 2015, 20:37:54 I'm not an expert in the geography of the area but I was say 13 minutes is a pretty good response time So would I, especially as it was BTP rather than Avon & Somerset. They would have been unlikely to have had anyone patrolling nearby. I would also say that 7 to 8 minutes was pretty good for replanning an intercity train journey. Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: ChrisB on September 30, 2015, 20:39:26 Don't BTP have a base at Bath station? So not very far to travel, maybe on a train out of service (that HST in the photo?)
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 30, 2015, 20:56:07 More likely in a car with twos and blues, up the A4?
Title: Re: Unexpected diversion 28 September 2015 Post by: TonyK on September 30, 2015, 21:18:41 More likely in a car with twos and blues, up the A4? Much the more likely mode of transport! Not bad from a standing start from watching for terrorist activity on P1 at BTH. This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |