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Title: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on February 27, 2007, 16:10:59
From the FGW website :

Train services between Maidenhead and Marlow are being disrupted due to a broken down train. Short notice cancellations and delays can be expected.

Customers travelling from Maidenhead to Marlow road transport is available for this service.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: martyjon on September 15, 2007, 20:26:53
From the website at 20:10

21:06 Marlow to Maidenhead due 21:28
This train will be started from Bourne End. It will no longer call at: Marlow. This is due to resourcing difficulties.


20:37 Maidenhead to Marlow due 20:59
This train will be terminated at Bourne End. It will no longer call at: Marlow. This is due to resourcing difficulties.


Can someone explain why.

Surely they dont change crew at Bourne End.

Surely they dont mean that the driver or other crew member does'nt sign for the route Bourne End - Marlow.

These services are operated by Turbos which are normally one man operated trains ;-

1.  do they carry a second man on this branch to change the points at Bourne End to go to Marlow or is the route controlled by Reading Panel.

2. if they do carry a second man then can't the driver, if this is the operating procedure, change the points at Borne End or is this a "not my job scenario".


Also note the lack of road replacement transport being provided doesnt instil confidence in the public to get out of their cars and use public transport.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: grahame on September 16, 2007, 10:43:13
Odd one. Catching up time?  Have to provide a break for staff every so often during their shifts?  Resource problem being that there was a lack of track availability - a works train up there, for example?   Just guessing, frankly.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: martyjon on September 17, 2007, 19:47:02
Grahame.

The Maidenhead - Bourne End / Marlow branch is basically a single line branch thay used to run to High Wycombe but was truncated At Bourne End by Beeching.

I, like you Grahame, are not familiar with the branch but I wondered if this branch was operated in a similar fashion to the Gunnislake and Looe branches in that a/the second train crew member operates the ground frame to switch the point to continue to the end of the branch, in this case Marlow. This however could be controlled in its entirty by the Reading panel which would operate the point at Bourne End to give access to Marlow.

Thus my post WHY, expecting a member familiar with the situation to give a response.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on January 09, 2008, 15:20:40
Armed police surrounded a packed commuter train yesterday morning after reports that a teenager had boarded with a handgun (link below.)
http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news_article.php?section=5&category=87&story=5263

Terrified passengers raised the alarm as the man boarded the London-bound train at Bourne End station at 7.36am.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on January 16, 2008, 10:27:01
From the FGW website :

Line problem between Maidenhead and Bourne End.
Train services between Maidenhead and Bourne End are being disrupted due to a vehicle striking a bridge.Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays can be expected.

Replacement road transport is in place.



Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on January 19, 2008, 11:11:32
From the FGW website :

Line problem in the Bourne End area.
Train services between Bourne End and Marlow are being disrupted due to signalling problems in the Bourne End area.Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice cancellations can be expected.

The branch line between Bourne End and Marlow will remain closed for a number of days. Train services will continue to operate between Maidenhead and Bourne End and road replacement transport will operate between Bourne End and Marlow.



Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: marlowned on January 24, 2008, 23:37:15
Easy one!

Thw route from Maidenhead to Bourne End is passed for DOO(P) operation and the Bourne End to Marlow route is not so therfore when they are short of a guard they can run Marlow services DOO(P) to Bourne End.

They are two reasons for this - the ground frame has to be operated to get to Marlow and this needs a Conductor (driver could do it but ASLEF would probably argue and needs more time as driver would then have to set cab up). The other reason is that DOO(P) regulations only allow you to operate away from a track circuited line for a maximum of 20 minutes and the journey from Maidenhead to Marlow exceeds that.

The peak hour shuttles to Bourne End are DOO(P) and the day time branch is DOO(P) operated between Maidenhead and Bourne End allowing the Conductor to focus on tickets!

ABC


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on January 24, 2008, 23:53:41
Welcome to the forum.

I would be interested to know a bit more about the quote below :

From the FGW website :

Line problem in the Bourne End area.
Train services between Bourne End and Marlow are being disrupted due to signalling problems in the Bourne End area.Engineers are working as fast as possible to restore services to normal. Short notice cancellations can be expected.

The branch line between Bourne End and Marlow will remain closed for a number of days. Train services will continue to operate between Maidenhead and Bourne End and road replacement transport will operate between Bourne End and Marlow.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: signalandtelegraph on January 31, 2008, 09:51:30
The problem was that the key on the train staff got stuck in the GF at Bourne End and specialist staff had to be sourced from Exeter to fix it on the Saturday. Work is currently taking place to replace the ground frame at Bourne End with power operated points operated from a new control panel at Bourne End.  The first stage of this work took place last weekend and the final commissioning is due to take place on the weekend of the 9/10 February. 

Quote
This however could be controlled in its entirty by the Reading panel which would operate the point at Bourne End to give access to Marlow.

The line is actually under the control of the original Slough Panel Box at the Maidenhead end but once the train leaves there it is effectively 'lost' to Slough Panel until it comes back.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on March 05, 2008, 08:15:56
A broken down train, according to BBC local news. From the FGW website :

07:58 Bourne End to Marlow due 08:04
This train has been cancelled.This is due to an earlier train fault.

Replacement road transport has been arranged.

08:16 Marlow to Bourne End due 08:23
This train has been cancelled.This is due to an earlier train fault.

Replacement road transport has been arranged.

08:29 Bourne End to Marlow due 08:36
This train has been cancelled.This is due to an earlier train fault.

Replacement road transport has been arranged.

08:38 Marlow to Maidenhead due 09:00
This train has been cancelled.This is due to an earlier train fault.

Replacement road transport has been arranged.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on March 05, 2008, 15:29:01
Maidenhead Advertiser article, which says that train services were disrupted after an object was thrown through the driver's window showering him in glass (link below.)
http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news_article.php?section=5&category=89&story=5752


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: John R on March 05, 2008, 18:35:51
Maybe FGW should make it clearer when the problem is not of their making. Would probably gain them a little more understanding from the inconvenienced passengers/observers. 


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on March 06, 2008, 13:02:10
Maidenhead Advertiser article, which says that train services were disrupted after an object was thrown through the driver's window showering him in glass (link below.)
http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news_article.php?section=5&category=89&story=5752

A reward of ^5,000 has been offered for information leading to the successful prosecution of anybody responsible for the attack (link below.)
http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news_article.php?section=5&category=89&story=5758


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on March 11, 2008, 12:00:29
Declining member numbers will be discussed at the annual general meeting of the Marlow-Maidenhead Passengers Association, which has been running for 36 years (link below.)
http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news_article.php?section=5&category=89&story=5827

If extra support is not found there is a serious threat that the association - which works with companies like First Great Western and Network Rail - will fold.

The group meets on a regular basis to fight for better rail services and recently played a key role in achieving more peak time train services between Marlow and Maidenhead.

The MMPA announced:

Quote from: Marlow-Maidenhead Passengers Association
"FGW considers us to be a useful contact for the line and is anxious that we should keep the association going. However, if support from the membership is not forthcoming, then we may have to consider disbanding. Obviously this is a last resort, and we would prefer not to go down this route."

The meeting will also give the public a chance air their views and opinions with transport managers and it is set to take place in the Bourne End Community Centre, in Wakeman Road, Bourne End on Friday 14 March 2008 at 8pm.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on April 11, 2008, 08:56:01
From the FGW website :

Line problem between Bourne End and Marlow.
Train services between Bourne End and Marlow are being disrupted due to a member of train crew being unavailable.Short notice cancellations can be expected.

08:38 Marlow to Maidenhead due 09:00
This train has been cancelled.This is due to a member of train crew being unavailable.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on April 12, 2008, 12:39:43
Err, apparently it was a points failure....
http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news/article-6027-major-rail-disruption/


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on July 01, 2008, 07:55:09
From Go By Train :

Service: 07:41 Maidenhead to Bourne End on 01/07/2008 operated by First Great Western.

Details: This train has been cancelled. This is due to a member of train crew being unavailable.

Service: 07:56 Bourne End to Maidenhead on 01/07/2008 operated by First Great Western.

Details: This train has been cancelled. This is due to a member of train crew being unavailable.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on July 01, 2008, 19:39:26
 :o must be the drive not booking on as the service DOO


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Lee on July 01, 2008, 19:48:40
Cancellations elsewhere on the Thames Valley branch lines :

Service: 18:55 London Paddington to Greenford on 01/07/2008 operated by First Great Western.

Details: This train has been cancelled. This is due to a broken down train.

Service: 19:23 Greenford to London Paddington on 01/07/2008 operated by First Great Western.

Details: This train has been cancelled. This is due to a broken down train.

Service: 19:06 London Paddington to Henley-On-Thames on 01/07/2008 operated by First Great Western.

Details: This train will be terminated at Twyford. It will no longer call at: Wargrave, Shiplake and Henley-On-Thames. This is due to an earlier broken down train.

Service: 19:52 Henley-On-Thames to Twyford on 01/07/2008 operated by First Great Western.

Details: This train has been cancelled. This is due to an earlier broken down train.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on July 16, 2008, 19:20:09
The red of Network Southeast finally replaced by the blue of FGW the question is will this paint job improve train services  ;D


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Phil on July 16, 2008, 19:23:02
ha ha! Well, at least the paint won't fade as quickly....


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Karl on July 17, 2008, 01:30:45
Morning

No a coat of paint won't do much to improve the
acual service, but one thing that we have found
at Penmere is that after things had been tidied
up (painted), sometimes it can attract people,
more so than you would think, who may of been put
off from using the station in its previous state.
The word has got around symdrome!  I'm guessing
that been NSE paint, it was last done sometime
during the 1990's?  Although I have never visited
the station in question either.

Is it a drastic improvement generally?!

Regards

Karl. 


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: IndustryInsider on July 17, 2008, 12:39:06
No a coat of paint won't do much to improve the
acual service, but one thing that we have found
at Penmere is that after things had been tidied
up (painted), sometimes it can attract people,
more so than you would think.

In my occassional observations of Furze Platt over the years, there's no shortage of people hanging around the station. Usually youths that are probably up to no good though!


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: eightf48544 on July 17, 2008, 14:00:33
No a coat of paint won't do much to improve the
acual service, but one thing that we have found
at Penmere is that after things had been tidied
up (painted), sometimes it can attract people,
more so than you would think.

In my occassional observations of Furze Platt over the years, there's no shortage of people hanging around the station. Usually youths that are probably up to no good though!

Both Karl and Industry Insider have highlighted the problems for a TOC of running stations like Furze Platt. It makes an interesting study.

Here we have a single platform staion in a totally urban environement with an AHB road rail crossing at the Maidenhead end. Several road/rail collisons over the years. There are shops nearby including if it's still there a Fish and Chip outlet. There is also a large comprehensive secondary school nearby as well.

It is also largely unmanned (totally?) joining passengers should purchase tickets from the conductor but with only a 5 minute run to Maidenhead that may not be possible. Not sure if there is a ticket machine.

So how do you make it a bright clean welcoming environment as Karl suggests and at the same time not make it too attractive that it attracts the crowds Industry Insider suggests gather there?



Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on July 17, 2008, 19:15:02
No a coat of paint won't do much to improve the
acual service, but one thing that we have found
at Penmere is that after things had been tidied
up (painted), sometimes it can attract people,
more so than you would think.

In my occassional observations of Furze Platt over the years, there's no shortage of people hanging around the station. Usually youths that are probably up to no good though!

Both Karl and Industry Insider have highlighted the problems for a TOC of running stations like Furze Platt. It makes an interesting study.

Here we have a single platform staion in a totally urban environement with an AHB road rail crossing at the Maidenhead end. Several road/rail collisons over the years. There are shops nearby including if it's still there a Fish and Chip outlet. There is also a large comprehensive secondary school nearby as well.

It is also largely unmanned (totally?) joining passengers should purchase tickets from the conductor but with only a 5 minute run to Maidenhead that may not be possible. Not sure if there is a ticket machine.

So how do you make it a bright clean welcoming environment as Karl suggests and at the same time not make it too attractive that it attracts the crowds Industry Insider suggests gather there?


Furze Platt is (wo)manned in the mornings until about 11:30 ish.  Since the AHB have been installed I am not aware of any more collisions on the crossing

It would not be to difficult to install CCTV back to Maidenhead although Maidenhead's station supervisor goes off shift around 19:30 but even so it could be linked back to FGW control and the odd visit to stations like Furze Platt by BTP would not go amiss.

Having said that its a very useful station especially as I live close to it 


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Karl on July 17, 2008, 21:12:01
Evening

To give a comnparison, Penmere has a chip shop 2mins
walk up the road and has 4 schools in 15mins walking
distance and the fair uses the recreation ground also
2mins walk three times a year.  We also have the chav
problem as well (upto 25 on one evening congressing
there before the last train has gone); so not too
different!

The simple answer to that is just keep going!  The
amount of times we have had to repaint or repair has
been lost and we run a shoe string with donations and
grants from Rail Partnership Groups and FGW so you don't
need to have a billion turn over per year to achive this.
Obviously CCTV will help to at least identify the youth
problem, the other thing you do is to find out who your
local Station Manager is and report vandalism e.t.c. to
them.  Third way around it is to form a neighbourhood
watch type scheme for the station forth way is to form a
group like we did to help to maintain it.

It is suprising that Penmere was getting a bit taty
and was hit a by grafitti and vandals, but soon as we
started repainting it and tidying up, there has been
less problems than before; they haven't even scratched
the enemal signs suprising yet; touch head!

The biggest problem we have is the police.  The BTP in
Cornwall only has two officers who are very helpfull,
but that office shuts at 6pm and then calls are relayed
to Birmingham.  It is then handed over to PSO or
D&C Police, again some are helpfull some arn't as they
consider it a BTP job.  I phoned the BTP at Truro about
problems with youths and grafitti and he said will let
D&C (as being in evening), to be honest they haven't
done much.  I also grabbed two PSOs one day and said they
would have a look, but again I haven't seen them and we
still get problems.  The panda cars usually just
sail past at night!

I would also appeal to train crews if they saw something
odd to report it ASAP.  We had four wooden tubs to the car
boot value of ^150 - ^250 stollen from Penmere one
evening, the Train Manager saw them (as was told latter),
but I don't think it was reported.

Regards

Karl.


No a coat of paint won't do much to improve the
acual service, but one thing that we have found
at Penmere is that after things had been tidied
up (painted), sometimes it can attract people,
more so than you would think.

In my occassional observations of Furze Platt over
the years, there's no shortage of people hanging
around the station. Usually youths that are probably
up to no good though!

Both Karl and Industry Insider have highlighted the
problems for a TOC of running stations like Furze
Platt. It makes an interesting study. Here we have a
single platform staion in a totally urban environement
with an AHB road rail crossing at the Maidenhead end.
Several road/rail collisons over the years. There are
shops nearby including if it's still there a Fish and
Chip outlet. There is also a large comprehensive
secondary school nearby as well. It is also largely
unmanned (totally?) joining passengers should purchase
tickets from the conductor but with only a 5 minute run
to Maidenhead that may not be possible. Not sure if there
is a ticket machine. So how do you make it a bright clean
welcoming environment as Karl suggests and at the same time
not make it too attractive that it attracts the crowds
Industry Insider suggests gather there?


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on November 21, 2008, 18:13:31
So the re timing of the Paddington off peak departures to xx:12, xx:27, xx:42 and with the branch now connecting from the xx:57 during the day instead of the xx:45 this is effectively a 12 minute improvement in the journey.  Although the Marlow to Padd journey has got worse by 4 minutes


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: eightf48544 on February 06, 2009, 17:39:07
Looks as if the through trains from London are cancelled this pm.

See post in lighter side as well.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on February 06, 2009, 18:12:46
I had a chat with a colleague today who is part of the maintenance team he can not understand why FGW have are running a Saturday service on the TV branches and canned the Greenford service most of this week as there has been nothing wrong with the infrastructure at anytime this week on these lines


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Ollie on February 06, 2009, 21:09:34
Probably same reason they wouldn't allow the crossover at Ruscombe to be used the other day, "Network Rail Key Route Strategy" be interesting if anyone has it :)


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 06, 2009, 21:15:51
I've done some digging on the internet, Ollie: can you give me any further clues - where do I go from this, for example?

http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/666.aspx


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Ollie on February 06, 2009, 22:51:45
No it's a different document to the RUS stuff.
I don't know much about it, might try and find out more about it.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: eightf48544 on March 26, 2009, 15:46:20
Can't find this posted elsewhere apologies if it is.

MH and CW will be at the AGM of the Maidenhead Marlow Passengers Associationon Friday 27 March.

It will be held at 20:00 in the Bourne End Community CentreWakeman Road  turn  at Total Garage in centre of village.

All welcome.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 12, 2009, 20:30:17
From the Bucks Free Press:

Quote
Business park bosses are being called upon to revive the ^gateway to Marlow^.

Councillors this week spoke of the need for investment to help brighten up the area leading up to Marlow train station in Station Approach and improve the waiting area within it. Marlow Town Council have asked operator First Great Western if they can fund refurbishment but have not yet heard whether any money is available.

The possibility of attracting a sponsor from Globe Business Park, which is situated within walking distance of the train station, was raised at a council meeting on Tuesday.

A three sided brick wall ^ one of which has a hole in it ^ is the only shelter currently provided for waiting passengers at the station. The current untidy appearance and litter surrounding the area gives a bad impression of Marlow, councillors agreed.

Cllr Richard Scott, who also sits on Wycombe District Council and Buckinghamshire County Council, said: ^As a gateway to Marlow it's not very attractive for a relatively small amount of money we should be able to improve it.^ Creating some flower beds outside would be one way to improve the appearance, he said.

The Marlow Society also believes improvements need to be made and called upon Marlovians to come together to reinvigorate the area. Society spokesman David Steele said he had been ^embarrassed^ recently to watch a Canadian couple visiting the town getting wet and wind swept due to the lack of shelter there. ^Here's an opportunity to spend a little bit of money to make a better impression when people come into Marlow and when they leave it. It's not as if we're talking about a massive redevelopment. If you want to attract people onto public transport it needs to be as nice as possible.^

The station is simply in need of a little ^tender loving care^, Mr Steele said.

Mr Steele said signs and maps of Marlow would make a significant difference and aid travellers getting to the town centre because of the distance.

Paul Murphy, secretary of Marlow-Maidenhead Passengers' Association, said although he was not aware of any passenger complaints about the state of the station the organisation believes the Marlow stretch of the track could be better marketed and smartened up.

First Great Western were unavailable for comment.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: IndustryInsider on September 13, 2009, 01:04:37
It's not an unattractive station - I could certainly name many worse - it's in the middle of a small business park, so it's going to be very difficult to make many improvements.

The biggest eyesore is the old station yard and former car park (I assume) which stands empty and full of brambles. This could be tarted up and turned into, erm, I don't know, a Car Park perhaps? Some new commuters might want to park their car there then... ::)


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on September 13, 2009, 08:46:10
The "former station yard" is where the original station stood or at least part of it.

Marlow station is just bland and functional station which is a shame as parts of the line between Bourne End and Marlow have some good views of the Thames, it would take very little money to improve things just some effort from the local movers and shakers to get some funding, getting money out of Globe Park might be a challenge as it was designed and built road friendly (good connections to 2 major motorways) I don't think the designers even gave public transport a thought


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 12, 2009, 18:19:54
From the Maidenhead Advertiser (http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news/article-13670-marlow-station-set-for-makeover/):

Quote
Marlow station set for makeover

Marlow Railway Station could be given a major revamp, it was revealed at a meeting of the Town Council last night.

First Great Western (FGW) and Network Rail have been approached to remove graffiti and install CCTV, ticket machines, and information screens.

The scheme is in the early stages but money has been budgeted by FGW to install CCTV with work carried out some time in the new year.

Speaking after the meeting, chairman of the Maidenhead and Marlow Passengers Association, Susan Morrison likened the station to an 'unloved step child'.

"It is clearly not very attractive, and we would like to see it given a major revamp," she said.

Read more in next week's Advertiser.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: eightf48544 on November 13, 2009, 11:19:24
There is still a resonably active Maidenhead and Marlow paassenger Association who are quoted in the post.

It is also well known that a Mark Hopwood is a Marlow man.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on March 30, 2010, 18:29:53
From the Marlow - Maidenhead Passangers Association website http://www.mmpa.org.uk/tt/maytt.html (http://www.mmpa.org.uk/tt/maytt.html)
Quote
0703 Maidenhead ^ Paddington non-stop service (0620 from Didcot Parkway) to be formed as a 5-car instead of 4-car. This provides an additional 100 Standard Class seats in a key morning peak service
0602 Reading ^ Slough ^ Paddington service to call additionally at Maidenhead, providing a new fast service into London
1736 Paddington ^ Oxford service (fast to Maidenhead) will be formed as a HST instead of a 4-car Turbo
1742 Paddington ^ Bourne End to be accelerated, running 5 minutes faster to Maidenhead and 4 minutes faster to Bourne End
Continuation of recent introduction of Maidenhead call in 1750 Paddington ^ Oxford HST service
1818 Paddington ^ Oxford service (fast to Maidenhead) to run as currently; with a better connection to Bourne End, arrival time there will be accelerated by 4 minutes
1833 Paddington ^ Oxford ceases to operate between Paddington and Oxford For Maidenhead, the 1833 will be effectively replaced by an accelerated and retimed 1842 Paddington ^ Bourne End service. Instead of taking 36 minutes to get to Maidenhead (which makes it a relatively unattractive service), it will depart at 1836 and get to Maidenhead in 27 minutes. As far as Maidenhead it will be formed as a 5-car service instead of a 3-car, providing an additional 186 seats on this train. (NB the 1842 presently has an average load factor of c.72% so there should, on average, also be a further 75 standard seats available for use from Paddington)
The Bourne End connection out of the 1918 Paddington ^ Oxford will be retimed, accelerating the journey time from Paddington to Bourne End by 4 minutes
An additional Maidenhead call will also be inserted into the 1947 Paddington ^ Cheltenham HST service, taking the pattern of fast services to Maidenhead up to 2000
1519 Taunton ^ Paddington HST service will call additionally at Maidenhead (1730)
For Twyford, an additional call will be inserted into the 1848 Paddington ^ Cheltenham HST
1812 Paddington-Henley becomes a 3-car v 4-car service
Saturdays: 2245 Paddington ^ Didcot runs 2 min later from Maidenhead to Reading to provide a better connection off the branch
Saturdays:0650 Twyford ^ Henley runs 7 min later to improve connections onto the branch
Sundays: An additional 0835 Maidenhead ^ Marlow and 0901 return trip will run, giving the branch a 1-hour earlier start on a Sunday compared to the usual service. Long term operation will depend on sufficient traffic being generated.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on March 30, 2010, 18:40:08
Yesterday Network Railwork (NR) imposed a 20mph TSR between Furze Platt and Cookham, this meant this morning the 07:57 from Fuze Platt to Maidenhead missed the connection with the 07:03 the driver on the branch stressing the point the late running was due to the Network Railwork (NR) speed restriction imposed because of track conditions.

Last Autum NR did some spot sleeper replacement at Furze Platt station removing the tie bars they had put in a month or so before, but a few weeks ago the tie bars were back so I wonder when the full repairs will be done as it obvious the whole stretch is in need of work.

For those unfamiliar with the line the section between Furze Platt (a single line) is fish platted 60ft bullhead rail with wooden sleepers with a normal line speed of 50mph

Edit: VickiS - clarifying acronyms


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 30, 2010, 19:02:53
More tinkering with the peak service than usual.  Whether the end result is just a shuffle of the pack or a noticeably better/worse service for Slough/Maidenhead/Twyford to London commuters remains to be seen - though it looks like the withdrawal of the 18:33 has been tempered by other changes.  Peak stops at Maidenhead and Twyford on the Cheltenham's is interesting - probably won't go down to well with the need for speed brigade!


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on March 30, 2010, 19:14:02
Also interesting is the 15:19 Taunton Padd stopping at Maidenhead

(Edit Corrected typo in the time)


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: John R on March 30, 2010, 20:43:33
This has to be seen as a retrograde step, stopping HSS between Reading and Paddington. I can't imagine East Coast trains stopping at Biggleswade or Virgin trains stopping at Hemel Hempstead.



Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Btline on March 30, 2010, 20:52:49
This has to be seen as a retrograde step, stopping HSS between Reading and Paddington.

What he said. Hopefully it's temporary.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on March 30, 2010, 21:12:17
This has to be seen as a retrograde step, stopping HSS between Reading and Paddington. I can't imagine East Coast trains stopping at Biggleswade or Virgin trains stopping at Hemel Hempstead.
Not what he said ......... may it continue and hopefully increase


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 30, 2010, 21:32:36
This has to be seen as a retrograde step, stopping HSS between Reading and Paddington. I can't imagine East Coast trains stopping at Biggleswade or Virgin trains stopping at Hemel Hempstead.

As ever, it depends on your point of view.  Retrograde step for long distance travellers, positive step for the huge number of commuters west of Paddington.

We are only talking about a couple of trains in the peaks, and an otherwise quite quiet contra-peak service from Taunton.  As for Biggleswade and Hemel Let's also have a look at the station usage:

Maidenhead - 3.7m
Biggleswade - 0.8m
Hemel Hempstead - 1.7m

Not that far short of stations which Virgin and East Coast do stop at (and far more regularly than is being proposed for Maidenhead)
Milton Keynes - 4.6m
Stevenage - 4.3m
Peterborough - 4.4m


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Btline on March 30, 2010, 21:50:36
I'm not saying the stations SHOULDN'T have a service, but the HSS should not stop - esp in the peaks where journey times are important and the trains are already packed!


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on March 30, 2010, 21:58:30
That might also explain why when the 9.03 non-stop to Paddington had arrived, the train from Bourne End (well that direction anyway) was nowhere in sight and it's usually there a few minute sbefore..

I'm not sure if it arrived before we left, or if people missed their connection, as I had got engrossed in my book by then and forgot to check  :)


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on March 30, 2010, 22:29:41
Just out of interest.. Don't the Intercities stop at lots of/several stations relatively close together once they get to Devon/Cornwall? (I may be totally wrong there).. What is the difference between doing that there or at this end of the journey?

If my assumption is wrong.. oops.. sorry  ;D


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: willc on March 31, 2010, 00:28:24
Oh my goodness, a couple of extra minutes to call at Maidenhead, to make sensible use of what is evidently spare seating capacity to help people travelling between Reading and Maidenhead after work and for anyone heading for an evening out in London from Maidenhead. The train is a semi-fast starting at Taunton, running against the peak flow, so unlikely to be packed, not an express from Plymouth or Cornwall, and it currently calls pretty much everywhere along the Berks and Hants line, plus Slough!


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Zoe on March 31, 2010, 00:45:31
Oh my goodness, a couple of extra minutes to call at Maidenhead, to make sensible use of what is evidently spare seating capacity to help people travelling between Reading and Maidenhead after work and for anyone heading for an evening out in London from Maidenhead. The train is a semi-fast starting at Taunton, running against the peak flow, so unlikely to be packed, not an express from Plymouth or Cornwall, and it currently calls pretty much everywhere along the Berks and Hants line, plus Slough!
Exactly, although it HSS the train is not an express.  Anyone wanting an express from Taunton need only wait 11 minutes for the 15:30.  This will get you into Paddington 30 minutes before the semi-fast.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: inspector_blakey on March 31, 2010, 03:12:41
Don't the Intercities stop at lots of/several stations relatively close together once they get to Devon/Cornwall? (I may be totally wrong there).. What is the difference between doing that there or at this end of the journey?

You're absolutely right, they do. As do FGW services west of Swansea, calling at Llanelli, Pembrey and Burry Port, Kidwelly and Ferryside on the way to Carmarthen. Kidwelly and Ferryside are even request stops!

The comparison with East Coast is a little bit spurious though - once off the end of the trunk route north of Edinburgh they become glorified stoppers on the way to Aberdeen as well.

Less of an issue making stops out in the sticks simply because there isn't the same amount of rail traffic - remember that each station call uses up capacity: it's not just the station "dwell" time, but also the time needed for deceleration/acceleration compared with batting through at line speed.

Having said that, there are times when it makes sense for HST-operated services to make calls like these (and just for completeness, Oxford - Paddington HSTs generally call Slough anyway!). This looks to me like one of them. However, some people will always froth first and ask questions later ;)


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: devon_metro on March 31, 2010, 15:05:33
I'm not saying the stations SHOULDN'T have a service, but the HSS should not stop - esp in the peaks where journey times are important and the trains are already packed!

If it ran fast to Reading then it would only sit outside, whilst the service 3 minutes in front completed station procedures. A sensible move in the grand scheme of things.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on March 31, 2010, 19:56:30
Don't the Intercities stop at lots of/several stations relatively close together once they get to Devon/Cornwall? (I may be totally wrong there).. What is the difference between doing that there or at this end of the journey?

You're absolutely right, they do. As do FGW services west of Swansea, calling at Llanelli, Pembrey and Burry Port, Kidwelly and Ferryside on the way to Carmarthen. Kidwelly and Ferryside are even request stops!

So will the people who don't want their nice fast intercities stopping between Reading and Paddington also agree to miss out lots of the little stops further west as that will also speed things up?  If we cut a lot of those out there would be loads of time to stop at Maidenhead... ;) ;D


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on March 31, 2010, 19:57:40
We definitely left this morning before the Bourne end train arrived... I can't believe the branch line people were pleased to miss the last fast train of the morning?


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on March 31, 2010, 20:02:58
From the M-MPA site
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Permanent Way problems at Furze Platt
Network Rail is working to replace sleepers at Furze Platt station following an emergency on Tuesday morning. A temporary speed restriction was in operation and some delays to services have been reported.
There was some work done last night in the no train period noticed some more new sleepers in their cribs at FP this morning



Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Btline on March 31, 2010, 20:05:02
Don't the Intercities stop at lots of/several stations relatively close together once they get to Devon/Cornwall? (I may be totally wrong there).. What is the difference between doing that there or at this end of the journey?

You're absolutely right, they do. As do FGW services west of Swansea, calling at Llanelli, Pembrey and Burry Port, Kidwelly and Ferryside on the way to Carmarthen. Kidwelly and Ferryside are even request stops!

So will the people who don't want their nice fast intercities stopping between Reading and Paddington also agree to miss out lots of the little stops further west as that will also speed things up?  If we cut a lot of those out there would be loads of time to stop at Maidenhead... ;) ;D

Um, no because the point of these services is to transport the people from Devon and Cornwall to London. Not Maidnehead to London, nor Devon & Cornwall to maidenhead. That's why there should be stops at major places in Devon and Cornwall, few after that and none after Reading.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on March 31, 2010, 20:10:35
Hhm that's the first time I've heard that.. Is that FGWs official reason for running intercities?.. I thought it was to transport people where they want to go..

Also couldn't some of the stops in Devon and Cornwall and Wales be serviced by local trains as we have at this end of the journey? So speeding the intercity service up?


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Cornish Traveller on March 31, 2010, 20:42:20
 ??? not unless you can find FGW some spare trains to send to West Country - hence a loco hauled set running about (at Dft expense LOL) !!


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on March 31, 2010, 20:46:28
We could send you some of ours? Then the High Speed Train (HST)s can stop more at this end and we won't need as many local trains  ;)

Edit: VickiS- Clarifying acronyms


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Btline on March 31, 2010, 21:09:36
Also couldn't some of the stops in Devon and Cornwall and Wales be serviced by local trains as we have at this end of the journey? So speeding the intercity service up?

That would be good as well.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Ollie on March 31, 2010, 21:13:50
We could send you some of ours? Then the HSTs can stop more at this end and we won't need as many local trains  ;)
What makes the Thames Valley more entitled to HST's than the West Country.
West Country get stops on HST's so they have some sort of direct service to London, Maidenhead has a good service to London albeit it may take 40 - 45 minutes instead of about 20 on a fast service, but compared to the time it will add on to those who travel from the West Country if the stops got removed an extra 20minutes I'm sure it is bearable.

Also couldn't some of the stops in Devon and Cornwall and Wales be serviced by local trains as we have at this end of the journey? So speeding the intercity service up?

That would be good as well.
Talk about speeding up services, but want to add calls at Maidenhead which will still add time on..


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on March 31, 2010, 21:23:00
What makes the Thames Valley more entitled to HST's than the West Country.
Because the current services in the TV are at or approaching capacity, so if there a lightly loaded services then the capacity needs to be used of the service could be capped, the TV is at least 7 years before there is a significant increase in capacity with Crossrail and a further 3 before GWML electrification and that is provided the crowd in the Palace of Westminster don't chop those two schemes


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on March 31, 2010, 21:28:24
We could send you some of ours? Then the HSTs can stop more at this end and we won't need as many local trains  ;)
What makes the Thames Valley more entitled to HST's than the West Country.
It was kind of tongue in cheek, hence the wink..

But really why should one place or another be entitled to more HST stops.. If the local services in Devon Cornwall were a lot better then you wouldn't need them either..

But anyway.. I'll stop (unintentionally) winding people up now (hopefully)  ;) ;)



Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Ollie on March 31, 2010, 21:39:23
It was kind of tongue in cheek, hence the wink..

But really why should one place or another be entitled to more HST stops.. If the local services in Devon Cornwall were a lot better then you wouldn't need them either..

But anyway.. I'll stop (unintentionally) winding people up now (hopefully)  ;) ;)


Aha okay let you off then.

What makes the Thames Valley more entitled to HST's than the West Country.
Because the current services in the TV are at or approaching capacity, so if there a lightly loaded services then the capacity needs to be used of the service could be capped, the TV is at least 7 years before there is a significant increase in capacity with Crossrail and a further 3 before GWML electrification and that is provided the crowd in the Palace of Westminster don't chop those two schemes

I think the issue comes down to rolling stock ultimately, but by adding stops somewhere and removing them elsewhere, all that is being done is the problem is getting shifted to another area, so either way somewhere there will be complaints.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: devon_metro on April 01, 2010, 15:56:51
Don't the Intercities stop at lots of/several stations relatively close together once they get to Devon/Cornwall? (I may be totally wrong there).. What is the difference between doing that there or at this end of the journey?

You're absolutely right, they do. As do FGW services west of Swansea, calling at Llanelli, Pembrey and Burry Port, Kidwelly and Ferryside on the way to Carmarthen. Kidwelly and Ferryside are even request stops!

So will the people who don't want their nice fast intercities stopping between Reading and Paddington also agree to miss out lots of the little stops further west as that will also speed things up?  If we cut a lot of those out there would be loads of time to stop at Maidenhead... ;) ;D

Um, no because the point of these services is to transport the people from Devon and Cornwall to London. Not Maidnehead to London, nor Devon & Cornwall to maidenhead. That's why there should be stops at major places in Devon and Cornwall, few after that and none after Reading.

The 1519 Taunton - Paddington being an 'intercity' train then?  ;D

How many stops between Taunton and Reading??


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: anthony215 on July 20, 2010, 11:20:14
I have read  on page 8 in the latest  copy of Railway Magazine that  GWR pannier tank no. 9466 could be used to work some steam shuttles from Southhall to  Brentford & Marlow in November as a finale to the GWR 175 season


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: eightf48544 on July 30, 2010, 13:53:42

Apparently optimistic reporting. Latest info no steam on Marlow line but 9499 is likely to work Looe branch sometime, see post.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on July 30, 2010, 15:19:45
Did wounder how it would have been done, no run round's on the branch any more.  Auto coach possibly but as they have vacuum breaks could not see that being permitted, even steam hauled to Bourne End would require a second loco to do the return to Maidenhead.

Real shame would have been nice to have had a kettle chuff past my back garden again


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: inspector_blakey on July 30, 2010, 21:16:39
As far as I know there's no prohibition on vacuum-braked passenger stock being used on the network, unless it's a recent development. I have certainly been on charters in the last ten years that used dual-braked equipment, with the vacuum being used on the steam leg. I think the main reason many steamers are now fitted with air brakes is that it gives them much more flexibility in terms of the charter stock they can work with.

However, given the paranoia about running even mark I vehicles I suspect something as antidiluvian as an autocoach is a non-starter!


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: hornbeam on August 11, 2010, 13:02:41
How about using chilterns clas 121 bubble car? They used to work the line  ;D


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on March 16, 2011, 08:49:56
There is a poster up at Maidenhead saying that from the May timetable change the 18:36 from London Paddington will in their words "split" at Maidenhead with only the front portion going forward to Bourne End.

Not sure what the reasoning is and what happens to the rest of the train. I suppose it might form an extra eastbound service.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: eightf48544 on March 16, 2011, 10:34:41
Interesting. always wondered why they took 5 up the branch.

Marlow line is an interesting exercise in stock utilisation. Due to the layout at Bourne you can only get 2 to Marlow although you can get 5 in the other platform.

Thus the daytime shuttle is locked (by its token, from the Bourne End control panel) onto Marlow branch during the peak and a connecting train run from Paddington or Maidenhead to Bourne End and back using the Maidenhead Bourne End token.Which is why there is  an irregular interval service on the branch in the peaks when two trains are running.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on March 16, 2011, 13:22:04
I assume the new arrangement will require three drivers. One to take the Bourne End portion forward. One to dispose of the remainder of the Paddington train and the third to run the Marlow/Bourne End shuttle as now.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on March 16, 2011, 17:31:01
I think that might be last May (2010) the poster is referring to.. That has been happening daily since then  ::) ;D


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on March 16, 2011, 18:24:14
I think that might be last May (2010) the poster is referring to.. That has been happening daily since then  ::) ;D
Correct the poster is a year old


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on March 16, 2011, 21:54:13
I think that might be last May (2010) the poster is referring to.. That has been happening daily since then  ::) ;D
Correct the poster is a year old
Ha ha though.. nice to see they've not replaced it with an updated one (that doesn't mention May) so as not to confuse people  ;D


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on March 16, 2011, 23:47:26
Should have been to Specsavers!


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on March 17, 2011, 16:54:05
I assume the new arrangement will require three drivers. One to take the Bourne End portion forward. One to dispose of the remainder of the Paddington train and the third to run the Marlow/Bourne End shuttle as now.

Only one driver, the 2 car part of the train remains stabled in plat 5 at Maidenhead certaily for part of the evening


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: hertzsprung on March 29, 2011, 20:56:43
I assume the new arrangement will require three drivers. One to take the Bourne End portion forward. One to dispose of the remainder of the Paddington train and the third to run the Marlow/Bourne End shuttle as now.

Only one driver, the 2 car part of the train remains stabled in plat 5 at Maidenhead certaily for part of the evening
Seems like they join up again before heading back towards Paddington.  I'm not sure where they go, but is there a reason that it couldn't be used as a passenger service?


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 29, 2011, 21:03:59
I don't have an answer to your question, hertzsprung - but welcome to the forum!  :)


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Ollie on March 29, 2011, 21:20:03
Goes to Slough and then proceeds towards Reading Depot


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on March 29, 2011, 22:00:13
I don't know if it was a special but the week before last there was a two car run out of service from Maidenhead nightly at 21:42 to platform 13 at Paddington where it joined with a three car from Banbury to form a late evening service to Reading.  The service on the branch was taken over by a fresh unit from Reading. So I was told by someone in the know.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: johoare on December 06, 2011, 23:14:04
http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/News/Areas/Maidenhead/Police-attend-train-station-after-crossing-gates-fail-05122011.htm


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on December 07, 2011, 07:02:33
What a load of over hyped journalistic tripe.  I was at Furze Platt on Monday morning at 06:50, yes the wig-wags were flashing and the waring klaxon sounding when a train was not present; when the UP arrived from Cookham the wig-wags continued flashing and the waring klaxon continued sounding and the barriers dropped the white flashing train drivers proceed light started to flash the drive sounded his horn and proceeded at a snails pace across the the level Xing.  There was no sign of the Police at that time yet the fault had been reported at least 20 mins earlier by the station staff. 

Lets get this in perspective the Xing failed in a safe mode the warning wig-wags kept flashing RED which means to road user should STOP do not proceed if a car had hit a train it would have been because the car drive broke the law!

Maidenhead Advertiser you are a better news paper than this, please no not stoop to the levels of the National tabloids


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on December 07, 2011, 12:54:36
I totally agree Electric Train.  As a journalist I despair sometimes at the things you see written.  While I am on my high horse I have lost count how many times people have written "a train was speeding over a crossing..."  Even a leading railway magazine was guilty of that recently.  A train is far less lilkely to be breaking line speed than a car on the adjacent road.  Perhaps we should put black boxes in cars!


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 11, 2012, 16:12:49
From the Bucks Free Press (http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/9465388.Man_dies_after_being_hit_by_train_near_Marlow_station/):

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A man has died after being hit by a train near Marlow railway station this afternoon.

He was hit by the 1.06pm service from Marlow to Maidenhead near the Mill Lane level crossing and was pronounced dead at the scene by paramedics.

The man has not yet been identified. British Transport Police say the death is not being treated as suspicious.

The line between Marlow and Maidenhead was closed for a time due to the incident, with a replacement bus service running in its place, although the line has now been handed back to Network Rail by police investigating the collision.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on January 11, 2012, 16:42:29
This always makes me so sad to read this whatever the circumstances



Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: eightf48544 on January 12, 2012, 11:13:42
Very sad, sympathy to all those involved.

The 11th seems to been a bad day with another incident at Stroud.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on December 09, 2012, 09:28:45
So far the journey checker says

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This train will be cancelled.
This is due to a member of train crew being unavailable.
Additional Information:
Replacement road transport is available

for the 08:35, 09:35, 10:35 Maidenhead Marlow and the 09:01, 10:01, 11:01 Marlow Maidenhead


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on December 09, 2012, 11:57:56
Wasn't the 08:35 and return due to be a bus anyway because of engineering work?  With a bus already in place perhaps it was easier to cover the shortage of train crew by pulling the other ones rather than cancel another service elsewhere.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Steve Bray on December 09, 2012, 20:34:44
And it wasn't jut the Marlow branch where there was a member of train crew unavailable.

2001 Cheltenham to Paddington; 2026 Weston super Mare to Paddington and the 1908 Gatwick to Reading trains all cancelled today for the same reason


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on December 09, 2012, 20:44:03
Also an early afternoon service from Weston super Mare to Paddington because of an "operating incident" and the 16:30 Paddington to Cheltenham Spa cancelled because of crew shortage as well as the Crediton/Barnstaple shuttle.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 09, 2012, 20:56:38
There's also been a rather bizarre situation at Newton Abbot today, apparently.  ::)

From First Great Western JourneyCheck:

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Newton Abbot Facilities: Ticket Vending Machine problem At Newton Abbot station.
The ticket vending machines are out of order.
TVM currently unable to take credit card purchases - Please purchase tickets at ticket offices, where applicable, or ticket barriers or on-train where no other means of purchasing is available.
Message Received: 08/12/2012 07:31

Newton Abbot Facilities: Ticket Vending Machine problem At Newton Abbot station.
The ticket vending machines are only accepting cards.
Please purchase tickets at ticket offices, where applicable, or ticket barriers or on-train where no other means of purchasing is available.
Message Received: 07/12/2012 09:38

My highlighting, obviously.  :P


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 08, 2013, 22:30:47
From the Maidenhead Advertiser (http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/News/Areas/Marlow-Bourne-End-Flackwell/Bourne-End-railway-bridge-to-get-1m-revamp-05032013.htm?):

Quote
Bourne End railway bridge to get ^1m revamp

(http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/imagelibrary/Client%20Images/Client00010/ResizeCache/00424000/00424210%20-%20200x134.jpg)

Work has started on a ^1m revamp of the historic Bourne End Railway Bridge. The structure over the River Thames, which runs from the village to Cookham, carries the Marlow Branch Line train service and provides a crossing point for walkers using the Thames Path.

Network Rail owns the bridge and has employed building contractor Osborne to undertake the project. The steel bridge requires minor structural changes and will also be given a new coat of protective paint. Bad weather had delayed the start of work which had been due to start in mid January. A team of 20 will now be working six days a week to make up time.

No date for the project to be completed has been given and estimates have ranged from the 'end of the summer' to the winter. Work will not affect the train service or walkers although boats will be restricted to passing through only one of the three spans at certain stages.

Osborne has consulted with the Environment Agency, Bucks County Council and The Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead. Noise control measures, including special acoustic curtains, will be used.

The bridge was first constructed in 1854 out of wood by Isambard Kingdom Brunel before being demolished and then reconstructed from steel in 1895.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: BBM on May 13, 2013, 15:45:08
A work colleague wants to travel from Cookham to Maidenhead in the afternoon of next Sunday (May 19th) but he can find no available train times. I've checked Realtimetrains.co.uk which is similarly blank for that day. I've searched in the service disruptions on Network Rail and FGW websites but although there is mention of engineering work that day affecting services between Reading and Paddington, there is no word specifically on anything affecting the Marlow branch. Is it correct that there'll be no service that day on the line?


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: BandHcommuter on May 13, 2013, 17:28:42
A work colleague wants to travel from Cookham to Maidenhead in the afternoon of next Sunday (May 19th) but he can find no available train times. I've checked Realtimetrains.co.uk which is similarly blank for that day. I've searched in the service disruptions on Network Rail and FGW websites but although there is mention of engineering work that day affecting services between Reading and Paddington, there is no word specifically on anything affecting the Marlow branch. Is it correct that there'll be no service that day on the line?

According to the printed timetable the Marlow branch is operated by replacement bus on Sundays until 16th June. http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/~/media/PDF/Timetables/May%202013%20timetable/GW13M_TT12_WEB.ashx (http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/~/media/PDF/Timetables/May%202013%20timetable/GW13M_TT12_WEB.ashx)


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on June 27, 2013, 06:24:42
Sad to report there was a fatality on the Marlow Branch in the early hours of this morning.  Train involved was the last one of the night from Marlow to Maidenhead.  Driver reported hitting something at the Mill Lane crossing.  When staff went back to the scene they found a body.

It is the second incident at this crossing in 18 months.  The last one, in January 2012, was reported earlier in this thread - http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=168.msg105168#msg105168 (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=168.msg105168#msg105168)


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: JayMac on June 27, 2013, 16:02:21
From the Bucks Free Press (http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/10511558.Man_dies_after_being_hit_by_train/):

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A MAN from Marlow has died after being hit by a train late last night.

British Transport Police said the death of the 35 year-old is not being treated as suspicious.

First Great Western, which runs the service from Marlow train station, said it happened about 11.30pm during the last service of the day.

The company has expressed its condolences to the victim's family.

One train has been out of action as a result but services are running as normal today.

British Transport Police spokesman Simon Letouze said: ^BTP officers were called to the line close to Marlow station,  on Thursday, June 27 following a report of a man being struck by a train.

^The incident was reported to BTP at 12.15am and is currently being treated as non-suspicious.

^Medics from the South Central Ambulance Service also attended the incident, but a man, a 35-year-old from Marlow, was pronounced dead at the scene.

^A file will be prepared for the Coroner.^

Dan Panes, spokesman for First Great Western, said: ^Originally we didn't realise a person had been hit and the service continued through to Maidenhead. Our thoughts are with the person involved in the incident and the family and also very much with our driver. These services are going pretty fast, it's not something a driver can do anything about and when they're involved in these kind of incidents it can hit them hard.^

The driver will be given counselling.

The train, consisting of five cars, is out of service while police investigate.

I think Dan Panes could have chosen his words a bit more carefully. The end of his last quoted sentence is rather inappropriate given the circumstances.  :-\


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: bobm on October 11, 2013, 07:01:32
Problems with the signalling at Bourne End has led to the cancellation of the first few services between there and Marlow this morning. Also some disruption to trains back to Maidenhead.

Road transport has been put in place.


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: DataMonkey83 on January 24, 2014, 20:18:28
Late last year train describers were installed and commissioned on the Marlow branch line.  At Marlow you also get an automated announcement about 5 minutes before the train is scheduled to arrive and then leave.

Anybody had any experience on whether these just recite the timetable or reflect actual real-time train running?


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Electric train on June 08, 2014, 10:32:57
West Coast Railways 47237 light engine 0Q47 running 12 late at 08:40 on its return trip

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3920/14349052926_8616fc36fc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nRYDwf)untitled-7758.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nRYDwf) by Richard1632 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: autotank on June 08, 2014, 17:17:52
Interesting! Do we know why?


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: autotank on June 08, 2014, 17:20:34
Looks like it visited the Henley branch as well.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R91594/2014/06/07/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R91595/2014/06/08/advanced

Shame as if I'd know I might have been tempted out to see it as the branch is 50 yards from my house!


Title: Re: Marlow branch line - engineering work, closures, incidents (merged topics)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 13, 2015, 20:49:35
From Bucks Free Press (http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/12886137.Updated__Marlow_train_cancelled_after__suspicious_package__concerns/):

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Marlow train cancelled after 'suspicious package' concerns

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Marlow train cancelled after 'police incident'

A suspicious package has been revealed as the police incident which caused a train from Marlow to be cancelled on Saturday.

First Great Western confirmed police were called after staff at Maidenhead Station found an unattended item on a train on Saturday afternoon.

They locked the train out of use and passengers were moved away from the carriages.

FGW spokesman James Davis said: ^Maidenhead station staff advised that a suspicious package had been left on the train. The police attended, checked the train and declared the package non-suspicious.^

British Transport Police confirmed they dealt with Saturday's incident.

A BTP spokesman said: ^We were called to Maidenhead railway station shortly before 4.30pm on Saturday, April 11, following a report of a suspicious package on a train. The train terminated at the station and was held there for a short time. BTP officers attended and declared the package safe.^

As a result, the 17:06 from Marlow did not run, with passengers saying First Great Western blamed the cancellation on ^disruptive passengers^ at the time.

Passenger Dominic Hall said there were ^a lot of people disrupted^ and forced to wait an hour until the next train.



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