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Title: New crossover on H&C/Circle line just outside Paddington
Post by: autotank on March 11, 2016, 11:52:06
This has got me scratching my head!

A crossover was installed between Paddington and Royal Oak a few weekends back, but I can't really understand why!

Are they planning to turn back some trains short of Hammersmith, or is it just for resilience?


Title: Re: New crossover on H&C/Circle line just outside Paddington
Post by: Electric train on March 11, 2016, 16:38:01
, or is it just for resilience?

And perturbation my guess, there is a crossover just west of Royal Oak which went in about 10 years or so ago


Title: Re: New crossover on H&C/Circle line just outside Paddington
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 11, 2016, 16:58:11
And perturbation my guess, there is a crossover just west of Royal Oak which went in about 10 years or so ago

A little longer ago than that I think.  IIRC it was used extensively following the London bombings with a shuttle train running between Hammersmith and Royal Oak.


Title: Re: New crossover on H&C/Circle line just outside Paddington
Post by: eightf48544 on March 12, 2016, 22:12:51
Maybe it's to replace the Royal Oak one which if I remember correctly is at the top of the slope of the underpass at Subway Junction so possibly not easy to use. If it's between Padd and Royal Oak it would be on level track. Presumably with S stock the driver can easily walk through the train


Title: Re: New crossover on H&C/Circle line just outside Paddington
Post by: chrisr_75 on March 12, 2016, 23:42:19
And perturbation my guess, there is a crossover just west of Royal Oak which went in about 10 years or so ago

A little longer ago than that I think.  IIRC it was used extensively following the London bombings with a shuttle train running between Hammersmith and Royal Oak.

A quick Google search reveals the crossover to the west of Royal Oak is manually operated and requires someone to throw and lock the levers on each set of points individually - it's not even operated from a ground frame. Could be that the new one is operated from the signalling control room?


Title: Re: New crossover on H&C/Circle line just outside Paddington
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 13, 2016, 08:07:40
Could well be, Chris.  There was indeed a handsignaller provided throughout the period I mentioned.  Plus it would make turning round services at Paddington, rather than Royal Oak much easier - something that would be more useful now that the new Paddington H&C station has been completed.


Title: Re: New crossover on H&C/Circle line just outside Paddington
Post by: paul7575 on March 13, 2016, 13:06:12
Maybe it's to replace the Royal Oak one which if I remember correctly is at the top of the slope of the underpass at Subway Junction so possibly not easy to use. If it's between Padd and Royal Oak it would be on level track. Presumably with S stock the driver can easily walk through the train

I found a picture of the newly ballasted location on twitter, and it does show the new crossover is much closer to Paddington:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CahjGfaW0AA4uto.jpg

Paul



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