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All across the Great Western territory => The Wider Picture Overseas => Topic started by: grahame on May 26, 2016, 05:30:21



Title: The Ghan
Post by: grahame on May 26, 2016, 05:30:21
The Ghan - from Adeaide via Alice Springs to Darwin - is a train of extremes. How does it sit in each of these?

* Least frequent (realistic) commercial passenger service ?

* Longest journey ?

* and, it would seem, longest train - see The Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/oceania/australia/articles/the-ghan-runs-one-of-world-s-longest-ever-trains/?)



Title: Re: The Ghan
Post by: Oxonhutch on May 26, 2016, 05:54:34
Also highly recommended. Did Alice Springs - Darwin in Gold Class in 2013. Very memorable.
The trains coaches used up most letters of the alphabet but my main problem was that they were not in alphabetical order!


Title: Re: The Ghan
Post by: bobm on May 26, 2016, 06:37:17
I am not a huge fan of overseas travel, but that *is* one train I would like to experience.


Title: Re: The Ghan
Post by: jdw.wor on May 26, 2016, 17:47:47
According to Wikipedia (the font of all knowledge!) The Ghan does not make it into the top 40 longest direct train journeys. The Trans Siberian being the longest at over 10000 km


Title: Re: The Ghan
Post by: PhilWakely on May 26, 2016, 19:11:04
Also highly recommended. Did Alice Springs - Darwin in Gold Class in 2013. Very memorable.
The trains coaches used up most letters of the alphabet but my main problem was that they were not in alphabetical order!

I am not a huge fan of overseas travel, but that *is* one train I would like to experience.

I was lucky enough to spend some of my redundancy payment back in November 2009 on Gold Class trips on both the Ghan and Indian Pacific trains. Operated by the same company, the on-train experience on both is pretty much the same, but naturally the geography of each trip is very different. Either trip definitely comes very highly recommended, but if I had to choose one over the other, I would go for the Indian Pacific rather than the Ghan.


Title: Re: The Ghan
Post by: JayMac on May 26, 2016, 19:24:32
On my bucket list too, when I win the lottery.

Getting there would be the main problem for me. Not a fan of such a long flight. Perhaps over land as far as possible.


Title: Re: The Ghan
Post by: eightf48544 on June 07, 2016, 15:02:54
Bnm try container ships.

One way would be.

Ship  UK to USA East Coast:  train to West Coast: ship Japan/China: ship Australia Darwin the start of the Ghan.

You may even get one direct to Australia from UK.


Title: Re: The Ghan
Post by: grahame on November 17, 2020, 05:32:39
From the Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8956337/Ghan-train-turned-Northern-Territory-leaving-Adelaide-COVID-19-cluster-grows.html)

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The luxury Ghan train has been turned around after crossing into the Northern Territory from new coronavirus hot spot South Australia.

A total of 221 passengers have had their travel plans thrust into chaos following the new border closures sparked by the COVID-19 cluster in Parafield in Adelaide's north.

The Ghan, an iconic train for adventurers, was already in the Northern Territory when the state's borders were closed to South Australia.

Still on my "bucket list", but I won't be taking any substantial risk of kicking the bucket by going any time soon. 2022 or 2023 perhaps?


Title: Re: The Ghan
Post by: broadgage on November 17, 2020, 14:37:13
Bnm try container ships.

One way would be.

Ship  UK to USA East Coast:  train to West Coast: ship Japan/China: ship Australia Darwin the start of the Ghan.

You may even get one direct to Australia from UK.

Agree, a friend of mine has made numerous voyages by cargo ship and highly recommends this mode of transport.
Cabin-----excellent, would be called "super double emperor class" or some such nonsense on a cruise ship.
Food------Limited choice but of excellent quality, included in fare.
Drink-----Again limited in choice but very cheap, had to be paid for at "duty free" prices, not pub or bar prices. Soft drinks FOC.
Entertainments and communications limited to satellite TV, radio, library, DVDs, and very expensive sat phone.

Reasonably green. Ships use a lot of low grade and polluting heavy oil, but the EXTRA fuel used by adding a passenger is negligible.

Most voyages were between the UK and the USA, but included one direct voyage to Australia.
One voyage was in truly extreme weather, with the shipping weather forecast describing the sea state as "phenomenal" The very experienced Captain looked worried, and the officers kept checking the lifeboats.
The crew were observed to be praying for deliverance.

Other voyages have been less exciting.


Title: Re: The Ghan
Post by: JontyMort on November 18, 2020, 00:21:19

Most voyages were between the UK and the USA, but included one direct voyage to Australia.

The crew were observed to be praying for deliverance.


For one awful moment I read that as ?Voyagers? to Australia. It would explain the prayers for deliverance.



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