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Title: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: grahame on March 24, 2017, 09:32:17
Keep 13th May 2017 free ... follow up in a few days


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area
Post by: TonyK on March 27, 2017, 11:22:46
Oooh! Hopefully, I will be somewhere in the solvent area then.


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area
Post by: paul7575 on March 27, 2017, 12:49:23
Oooh! Hopefully, I will be somewhere in the solvent area then.

Financially, or something involving misuse of glue?    ;D

Paul


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area
Post by: TonyK on March 27, 2017, 17:10:22
Certainly a fiscal issue. A friend who tried the other one came to a sticky end.


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area
Post by: JayMac on March 27, 2017, 18:37:56
Portsmouth Beer Festival that day.

A wrong turn after imbibing well and one could end up in the Solent.


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area
Post by: grahame on March 27, 2017, 19:10:10
For a spoon full of sugar, the Solent is a solvent ...


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area
Post by: TonyK on March 27, 2017, 19:16:02
Portsmouth Beer Festival that day.

A wrong turn after imbibing well and one could end up in the Solent.

Is that what they call Insolent?


(I can see where this is going. I have my coat at the ready)


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area
Post by: grahame on April 22, 2017, 13:33:58
http://www.hastingsdiesels.co.uk/railtours/2017waterside.pdf

THE FAWLEY FORESTER - Saturday 13 May 2017

Promoted by the Three Rivers Community Rail Partnership

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Our train has been chartered by the Three Rivers Community Rail Partnership to run three shuttle-trips between Southampton Central and Fawley, on the old Waterside Line through Marchwood and Hythe. Its passenger service was withdrawn in 1966, and freight trains ceased serving Fawley oil refnery in 2016. This outing promotes the potential re- opening of the line to passengers, and celebrates the Partnership’s 10th anniversary.

Rather than send the train empty to Basingstoke to begin the charter, we made it an outing in its own right. Our train will run via the L&SWR Main Line to Southampton Central, then make its frst of three shuttle trips to Fawley, calling at Totton in both directions. After returning to Southampton it will then make two further shuttle trips to Fawley. The train’s third and fnal departure from Fawley will be the start of its journey back to Hastings.


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: rogerw on April 22, 2017, 14:52:05
It's a shame that this clashes with the Minehead trip


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area
Post by: grahame on April 29, 2017, 08:30:23
http://www.hastingsdiesels.co.uk/railtours/2017waterside.pdf

THE FAWLEY FORESTER - Saturday 13 May 2017

Promoted by the Three Rivers Community Rail Partnership


From a post of mine elsewhere ...

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/minehead_fawley.jpg)

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What are you doing on 13th May?  I am spoiled for choice!   

There's a special train to Minehead - connection (included) from Swindon and 08:36, Chippenham at 08:53 and Melksham at 09:02 - all profits to a local charity and a very reasonable price of £35 per person / £30 per person for a group. See http://www.125group.org.uk/gwr-charity-hst-to-minehead/

And there's a special train running from Southampton via Totton and Hythe to Fawley - a rare opportunity to travel by train to the refinery gates.  See http://www.hastingsdiesels.co.uk/railtours/2017waterside.pdf

TransWilts are working closely with the GWR team to help promote the Minehead service by High Speed Train, and with Three Rivers CRP to help promote the Fawley trip on the Hastings Diesel. The trips are so different that I expect the choice of where to go to be a "no brainer" for most people. 

Personally I hope to make it to Fawley; Minehead is a much better leisure destination, but with TransWilts hopes to link Swindon - Westbury, Westbury - Salisbury and Salisbury - Southampton services in the not-too-distant future (giving through services such as Swindon to Salisbury and Chippenham to Southampton Airport), the Southampton connection is really important for us for our ongoing day to day business ... and it's possible that at some future date the service from Swindon would end up at ... a new station at Fawley.


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: grahame on May 13, 2017, 17:31:14
Wow!   ... what a trip!   ... here's a first taster picture - more to follow.

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fforest01.jpg)


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 14, 2017, 22:17:43
In the interests of clarity and continuity, I have moved a few posts from this topic and merged them with a wider, ongoing, discussion of the possibility of reopening the former rail line between Hythe and Totton, at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=10308.msg213783#msg213783

However, I also include a copy here of the content of grahame's post about the 'Fawley Forester' excursion in particular:

What a fascinating trip to Fawley - a huge thanks to the Three Rivers Community Rail Partneship and to Hastings Diesels for organising it. With a choice of special trips yesterday to Minehead (a lovely town) and to Fawley (at the gates of an oil refinery, with no chance to get off), I chose the latter ...

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fforest10.jpg)

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fforest11.jpg)

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fforest12.jpg)

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fforest13.jpg)

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(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fforest17.jpg)

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fforest18.jpg)

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fforest19.jpg)

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fforest1a.jpg)

Pictures all taken yesterday; some are informational shots rather than good pictures!




Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: ChrisB on May 15, 2017, 05:18:04
I think you also need to update post #4139 to make the reference to '#post 4' relevant again


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: stuving on July 29, 2017, 13:16:58
I heard something unusual going through Wokingham station - non-stop, and just different-sounding - and looked out just in time to see its flat rear face and greener green colour. Looking on RTT I find it's a 100 mph EMU going to Keynsham.

A what??? Closer examination shows that it started from Hastings, which provides an explanation, but only if it's really a DMU. Does labelling it an EMU have no effect at all? No-one get twitchy when it insists on charging up the bank and into P8 at Reading? (Special permission to go over the viaduct, apparently.) And as for 100 mph, that's going to be a challenge.

And then a bit later, another episodic visitor that's obviously a tour of some kind, and turns out to be from High Wycombe to Redhill (?). Due back later on its way from Caterham to Eastleigh (???). Oh well, that's just a whole new kettle of fishy behaviour.


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: grahame on July 29, 2017, 14:14:34
A what??? Closer examination shows that it started from Hastings, which provides an explanation, but only if it's really a DMU. Does labelling it an EMU have no effect at all?

It's both - a diesel electric multiple unit.  Diesel engine generates the electricity which then runs the motors to drive the wheels around.


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: stuving on July 29, 2017, 15:01:18
A what??? Closer examination shows that it started from Hastings, which provides an explanation, but only if it's really a DMU. Does labelling it an EMU have no effect at all?

It's both - a diesel electric multiple unit.  Diesel engine generates the electricity which then runs the motors to drive the wheels around.

So it's got an electric transmission, so what? We don't talk about DHMUs, or (if you can find one) DMMUs. A DEMU should at least be bi-mode, shouldn't it?


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: ChrisB on July 29, 2017, 15:50:44
There are already DEMUs that have been in service, so you can't really redefine them.


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: stuving on July 29, 2017, 19:39:32
There are already DEMUs that have been in service, so you can't really redefine them.

Why not? I'm only ignoring a historical anomaly. In any case, the question was more about why it was shortened to EMU in the pathing instruction.

On its return it's "Timed for 75mph max/Pathed as Class 150/153/155/156 (Sprinter) DMU". Maybe that's why it was early when it went past just now. More seriously, I vaguely remember that the only simple way to set up a one-off oddity like this is to copy something that already runs in the area it starts from. That may be the real, if more prosaic, reason.


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: grahame on July 29, 2017, 19:49:42
... a one-off oddity like this ...

Oh please - that's no oddity; I was brought up on those.  Last of the line, graceful old lady, yes.   Oddity - no, and you 'll hurt her feelings  :D

That wonderful change in tone as they pass through the fast platform at Orpington having slowed down for the permanent way speed limit and put on full power for the climb to Knockholt summit ... ah, those were the days ....


Title: Re: Something in the Solent area - Southampton to Fawley with Hastings diesel
Post by: CyclingSid on July 30, 2017, 11:10:23
I noticed this both ways on a trip to Eastbourne. EMU struck me as an odd description as we passed on unelectrified sections of the North Downs Line.
The trip also reminded me how lucky we are in GWR territory (don't laugh). On the Southern service beyond Haywards Heath the ride quality is pretty awful. On the return journey about Lewes people we almost thrown out of their seats. It is not exactly a backwater, about 5 million passengers a year at Eastbourne, most of them probably paying fairly hefty season ticket prices.



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