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Title: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 03, 2017, 21:50:18
From the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/public-leaders-network/2017/may/26/heritage-railways-trains-britain-golden-age-steam-alive):

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Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive

Steam trains are expensive to operate but heritage railways are seeing a revival following the refurbishment of the Flying Scotsman

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Steam locomotive LNER Class A3 4472, commonly known as the Flying Scotsman, at Hereford railway station. Photograph: Jim Wood/Barcroft Images

Eight years before British Rail withdrew steam trains from regular service in 1968, the Bluebell railway opened as one of Britain’s first heritage lines, running between East Grinstead and Sheffield Park in Sussex. The popularity of steam trains has since led to many more such lines, dedicated museums and the reappearance of steam trains on what are now Network Rail’s tracks.

Perhaps the most famous steam locomotive, the Flying Scotsman, was retired by British Rail in 1963 – only to start a new career in heritage. Following a £4.2m refurbishment, its recent tour of Britain included a one-week visit to the Bluebell in April, where on its final day it was crewed by three sisters, Liz, Rebecca and Ruth Groome.

The Groomes, including their father Clive, are among 700 volunteers who keep the line going, with around 35% working regularly in jobs including ticket sellers, train drivers, guards, signal operators, restoration workers and the board of directors. It also has 63 paid staff.

Even with voluntary staff, the economics of steam are challenging. The railway brings in about £4m a year in ticket sales, retail and catering and private hire. For £650 you can spend a day as a train driver, and railway scenes for Downton Abbey were filmed at the Bluebell’s Horsted Keynes station. But this barely covers running costs, including £169,000 annually for coal. Capital expenditure is met by donations and grants from local councils, government and lottery funding.

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The Groome sisters volunteer to keep the Bluebell railway running. Photograph: Mike Hopps/Mikehopps.com

In some respects, steam trains are resilient and self-contained. As trains carry their own coal, used to boil water into steam with its expansion turned into motion, they do not need overhead lines or third rails like electric trains. Their weight also means they are more likely to cope with heavy leaf or snow falls.

However, the infrastructure to provide water and coal no longer exists on the main rail network, trains may not fit bridges or platforms and most are only allowed to run at 75mph on the main network, which blocks fast lines. Operating them from open cabs is a tough job, especially in winter – even if some people will pay to do it – and parts are no longer produced. This makes it vital that heritage railways attract younger volunteers, according to Bluebell railway communications director Roger Garman.

Garman adds that there are no operational benefits to steam trains. But he says: “In terms of passenger numbers and revenue, that’s a different stick. People will pay money, a premium, to ride behind an iconic steam locomotive.”

The Flying Scotsman could only get to Sussex thanks to the rejoining of the Bluebell line to the national network at East Grinstead in 2013. Previously, “it really was going from nowhere to nowhere,” Garman says, with most passengers driving along its route to its southern base at Sheffield Park. Now, visitors can catch a train from London to East Grinstead, take a steam train to Sheffield Park, visit the nearby National Trust gardens, and travel back in a day. Revenues rose from £3m to £4m for the year after East Grinstead’s opening.

Static steam trains can also benefit an area. The Steam museum of the Great Western Railway in Swindon attracts about 150,000 people each year to see eight GWR locomotives, including the Swindon-built King George V, rolling stock and exhibitions. It has a turnover of about £1.5m and aims to pay for itself as an attraction. It also serves as a conference centre, holding railway-themed events as well as beer festivals and film and TV event Comic Con.

The museum aims to represent Swindon’s culture of engineering and innovation, according to income-generation manager Ian Surtees. Swindon was a village of 2,000 people before the GWR built its workshops there and its employers now include Honda, BMW and high-tech companies, which took advantage of that engineering legacy.

Surtees says that journeys on the renovated Flying Scotsman are generating more interest in the golden age of steam: “People love that era. It smells great, it looks great.” While steam trains may have had their day in mass transportation, they can still bring benefits to places that celebrate their heritage.




Title: Re: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: JayMac on June 04, 2017, 00:13:32
The definite article once again when writing of the given name of 60103. Would these journalists write about the Tornado, the Sir Ken Park, the Braunton? Why is it done in this article with Flying Scotsman but not King George V?

Arrrgggghhhh.  ::) >:( ::) >:(



Title: Re: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 04, 2017, 00:47:26
Well, it was in the Guardian.  ::)



Title: Re: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: TaplowGreen on June 04, 2017, 09:35:03
The definite article once again when writing of the given name of 60103. Would these journalists write about the Tornado, the Sir Ken Park, the Braunton? Why is it done in this article with Flying Scotsman but not King George V?

Arrrgggghhhh.  ::) >:( ::) >:(



..............just think, one day people may flock alongside the railway to take pictures as "The Bignosemac" roars by!  ;D


Title: Re: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: stuving on June 04, 2017, 09:53:42
The definite article once again when writing of the given name of 60103. Would these journalists write about the Tornado, the Sir Ken Park, the Braunton? Why is it done in this article with Flying Scotsman but not King George V?

Arrrgggghhhh.  ::) >:( ::) >:(


This is one of those "areas of linguistic uncertainty". It's not just locomotives' names - we say "the BBC", but not "the ITV". (Except in Scotland (and maybe elsewhere) you will hear "the ITV", and when I lived in Bo'ness a lot of my neighbours worked "at the BP" in Grangemouth.) And the ORR now styles itself just "ORR", but on this forum you'll find both - and I don't see either as obviously incorrect.

You'd expect the naming of railway engines to follow the pattern of something familiar when it was first done, and ships' naming is the obvious example. But there we almost always use "the", even when the resulting phrase could never be like that outside a name. For example, "the Queen Mary", "the Grampian", "the Harlech Castle", etc.


Title: Re: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: PhilWakely on June 04, 2017, 10:03:03
The definite article once again when writing of the given name of 60103. Would these journalists write about the Tornado, the Sir Ken Park, the Braunton? Why is it done in this article with Flying Scotsman but not King George V?

Arrrgggghhhh.  ::) >:( ::) >:(


This is one of those "areas of linguistic uncertainty". It's not just locomotives' names - we say "the BBC", but not "the ITV". (Except in Scotland (and maybe elsewhere) you will hear "the ITV", and when I lived in Bo'ness a lot of my neighbours worked "at the BP" in Grangemouth.) And the ORR now styles itself just "ORR", but on this forum you'll find both - and I don't see either as obviously incorrect.

You'd expect the naming of railway engines to follow the pattern of something familiar when it was first done, and ships' naming is the obvious example. But there we almost always use "the", even when the resulting phrase could never be like that outside a name. For example, "the Queen Mary", "the Grampian", "the Harlech Castle", etc.

As well as the use of the definite article, the use of female pronouns for locomotives with male names is another of my pet hates. I remember one national newspaper (sadly I do not have the article at hand to quote) reporting on the anniversary of Winston Churchill's death. It included a picture of the funeral train alside the quote "The Winston Churchill resplendent as she pulled the funeral train".

I know that it is the accepted thing to refer to locomotives, aircraft, ships, etc in the female gender, but when given male names, it just doesn't sound right!


Title: Re: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: Surrey 455 on June 04, 2017, 10:22:34
This is one of those "areas of linguistic uncertainty". It's not just locomotives' names - we say "the BBC", but not "the ITV". (Except in Scotland (and maybe elsewhere) you will hear "the ITV", and when I lived in Bo'ness a lot of my neighbours worked "at the BP" in Grangemouth.) And the ORR now styles itself just "ORR", but on this forum you'll find both - and I don't see either as obviously incorrect.

You'd expect the naming of railway engines to follow the pattern of something familiar when it was first done, and ships' naming is the obvious example. But there we almost always use "the", even when the resulting phrase could never be like that outside a name. For example, "the Queen Mary", "the Grampian", "the Harlech Castle", etc.

Another example would be Uxbridge Road, Oxford Street then "The" Bath Road



Title: Re: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: grahame on June 04, 2017, 11:26:37
Another example would be Uxbridge Road, Oxford Street then "The" Bath Road

The Bath Road has an interesting history AIUI - originating from "The road to Bath [from London]" so it's a descriptive name as well as (nowadays) the actual road name.

Similarly, "The National Rail Measurement train", "The Yellow train" or "The replica A1 locomotive" - but not "The Tornado" ....


Title: Re: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: Rhydgaled on June 04, 2017, 12:32:31
As well as the use of the definite article, the use of female pronouns for locomotives with male names is another of my pet hates. I remember one national newspaper (sadly I do not have the article at hand to quote) reporting on the anniversary of Winston Churchill's death. It included a picture of the funeral train alside the quote "The Winston Churchill resplendent as she pulled the funeral train".

I know that it is the accepted thing to refer to locomotives, aircraft, ships, etc in the female gender, but when given male names, it just doesn't sound right!
I'm with you on that, female pronouns are fine for nameless locos, locos named after women etc. but something like 'Flying Scotsman' or 'King Edward I' really ought to be refered to using male pronouns.


Title: Re: Heritage railways and trains keep Britain's golden age of steam alive
Post by: Red Squirrel on June 06, 2017, 11:41:06
We all have our pet peeves... see how some cub journos struggle when a loco has no name, just a number: they still feel the need for a definitive article, so we get nonsenses such as 'The 45110'...



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