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Title: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 08, 2017, 22:41:16
14 pictures - that's 2 a day - over the last week

Can you place the (please give everyone a chance - one each for the first 24 hours)

1 Lynmouth - AMLAG
01: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_01.jpg)

2 Woody Bay - AMLAG
02: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_02.jpg)

3 Woody Bay - BigNoseMac
03: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_03.jpg)

4 Bude - Ellendune
04: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_04.jpg)

5 Carbis Bay - Plymothian
05: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_05.jpg)

6 Between Penmere and Falmouth Town - SandTEngineer
06: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_06.jpg)

7 St Erth - Richwarwicker
07: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_07.jpg)

8 Hayle - Bradshaw
08: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_08.jpg)

9 Taunton - Rob T followed by AMLAG
09: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_09.jpg)

10 Truro - Marky7890
10: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_10.jpg)

11 Penmere - Old Original
11: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_11.jpg)

12 Falmouth Town - Old Original
12: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_12.jpg)

13 Falmouth Docks - SandTEngineer
13: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_13.jpg)

14 Keyham - InTheSidings
14: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_14.jpg)


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: AMLAG on July 08, 2017, 23:51:25
1 Lynmouth - Lynton Cliff Railway


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: InTheSidings on July 08, 2017, 23:56:03
14: Keyham


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: plymothian on July 09, 2017, 03:21:57
5. Carbis Bay


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 07:23:51
1 Lynmouth - Lynton Cliff Railway

Correct (picture taken at Lynton)

5. Carbis Bay

Correct

14: Keyham

Yes, that's right.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: old original on July 09, 2017, 08:00:11
11.  Penmere


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: LiskeardRich on July 09, 2017, 08:09:08
7 st Erth


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 08:27:54
11.  Penmere

7 St Erth

Two stations both very well worth a visit.   Fascinating to observe crowd control at St Erth on Friday morning.  Passengers in remarkably good humour seeing as many of them were going to be arriving into St Ives 90 minutes late (one main line cancellation from Plymouth, following main line train delayed and just missed the connection)

I wonder if the chap in the picture was supporting the post, or the post supporting the chap.  Always though such things were there to hold up signage, but perhaps they're dual use!  :D



Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: ellendune on July 09, 2017, 08:28:09
4 is the Bude Harbour Tramway that used to bring sand up from Summerleaze beach to the Canal and later to the LSWR harbour branch. I have a very similar photo from a couple of weeks ago.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: SandTEngineer on July 09, 2017, 09:21:00
13. Falmouth Docks


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: bradshaw on July 09, 2017, 09:31:06
8 Hayle, part of the old Cornwall Railway system.
It is well worth a visit, part towards Angarrack can be walked.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 09:49:58
4 is the Bude Harbour Tramway that used to bring sand up from Summerleaze beach to the Canal and later to the LSWR harbour branch. I have a very similar photo from a couple of weeks ago.

Yes, that's Bude - photo taken yesterday. 

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/sandrails.jpg)

When I meet people, they tend to think I'm a train zealot and wouldn't countenance any other mode of travel; that's far from the truth (more about that at another time).  Last week, we (that's Lisa and me, Gypsy and Billy) hired part of a cottage above the beach on the northern flank of Hayle.  We drove down and back, the rationale being the weight of stuff to carry, the availability of a vehicle for local / emergency use while in an unknown location, and not fancying buses on the way back into Melksham.   And that did give us the opportunity on our return yesterday to take in some places such as Bude which would otherwise have been difficult.

Bude was busy!  I'm not a great fan of playing "hunt the car parking space", nor do I think that the large area of car parking that's there adds to the attractiveness of the town.   And I wonder if - had the railway not closed in the 1960s - whether it would now be much the better for having a St Ives style shuttle ... would we be seeing trains from Exeter every 30 minutes, alternating after Yeoford to Barnstaple, and to Okehampton and Bude?    I am aware of the proposals / suggestions for re-instating the rails to Bude, and just how much into the mists of the future such plans are regarded, and I'm very much aware that I have no quantitative evidence having just seen in on one busy Saturday ... just wonderin' ...


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: AMLAG on July 09, 2017, 09:59:00
2 Transhipment siding, Woody Bay stn L&BR


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 09:59:46
13. Falmouth Docks

Yes, it is ... What's the signalling background to having a "Train Ready to Start" at the terminus stub end?  Is that something that's there but I've missed at other termini, or something that was needed in the days of the freight connection to the docks which has been removed with sad tracks in the undergrowth ... and as still shown on the station map:

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fdocksmap.jpg)


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 10:04:09
8 Hayle, part of the old Cornwall Railway system.
It is well worth a visit, part towards Angarrack can be walked.

Yes, it is ... I wonder how much those particular rails and wagon turntable outlines set in the quayside are part of the original, and how much they are a replacement added during works to note the presence there previously of the railway.  A little to the south, there are certainly some remnants which are "well old" - a weigh bridge, and the bridge towards the current station which from its curved ends looks like it used to swing at some point.

Could have done with another week away ...


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 10:06:43
2 Transhipment siding, Woody Bay stn L&BR

Yes ... it is.  But please give others a chance for the first 24 hours ... this quiz has been up less than 12  ;)


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: JayMac on July 09, 2017, 11:30:10
3. Woody Bay, Lynton & Barnstaple Railway?


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 11:36:41
3. Woody Bay, Lynton & Barnstaple Railway?

Yes, indeed ... I thought you might get that one as you too visited a few weeks back.   I was most impressed by the way the line captures what I understand to be the historic atmosphere of the line, though it could really do with being somewhat longer.    This picture is of a miniature railway (line) set up just above the station - not in operation during yesterday's visit.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: JayMac on July 09, 2017, 11:42:34
I don't think the narrower gauge railway at Woody Bay is in public use at all.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: SandTEngineer on July 09, 2017, 11:43:00
13. Falmouth Docks

Yes, it is ... What's the signalling background to having a "Train Ready to Start" at the terminus stub end?  Is that something that's there but I've missed at other termini, or something that was needed in the days of the freight connection to the docks which has been removed with sad tracks in the undergrowth
Its not actually anything to do with pure signalling.  It allows TRUST to record the departure time at remote termini.  All terminal stations in Cornwall have them (St.Ives, Falmouth Docks, Newquay, Looe and Gunnislake).


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: LiskeardRich on July 09, 2017, 12:27:02
Graham, knowing you went back yesterday the A39 through Bude, Bideford and down to M5 would have been a much more pleasant drive than the A30. Reports on Facebook from people taking 2 hours to cover 3 miles around the Bodmin area yesterday early afternoon!


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 12:44:42
Graham, knowing you went back yesterday the A39 through Bude, Bideford and down to M5 would have been a much more pleasant drive than the A30. Reports on Facebook from people taking 2 hours to cover 3 miles around the Bodmin area yesterday early afternoon!

 ;D ;D ;D

I may be dumb but I'm not stupid ... avoiding that was part of the reason.   We did suffer a three minute delay in getting through Camelford ...


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: plymothian on July 09, 2017, 15:36:20
13. Falmouth Docks

Yes, it is ... What's the signalling background to having a "Train Ready to Start" at the terminus stub end?  Is that something that's there but I've missed at other termini, or something that was needed in the days of the freight connection to the docks which has been removed with sad tracks in the undergrowth ... and as still shown on the station map:

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fdocksmap.jpg)

CRTS (Conductor, Ready to Start) is/was connected to the PIS (passenger information system).  Are also CRTSs at Exmouth and Barnstaple, which sent an automated phone call to PIS control so the system could clear the outgoing train from the board.  These have been decommissioned due to modifications in the PIS/signalling system.

TRTS (Train, Ready to Start) is linked to the signal box, and alert the controlling signaller that the crew are ready for the train to depart.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: SandTEngineer on July 09, 2017, 16:29:26
13. Falmouth Docks

Yes, it is ... What's the signalling background to having a "Train Ready to Start" at the terminus stub end?  Is that something that's there but I've missed at other termini, or something that was needed in the days of the freight connection to the docks which has been removed with sad tracks in the undergrowth

CRTS (Conductor, Ready to Start) is/was connected to the PIS (passenger information system).  Are also CRTSs at Exmouth and Barnstaple, which sent an automated phone call to PIS control so the system could clear the outgoing train from the board.  These have been decommissioned due to modifications in the PIS/signalling system.

TRTS (Train, Ready to Start) is linked to the signal box, and alert the controlling signaller that the crew are ready for the train to depart.

Well that's changed since I maintained that area (2002-2008).  There are no 'signalling' TRTS facilities at any of those stations so what's in those boxes now (If anything)?


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 16:46:21
12 Lelant Saltings

I can see why you might think so but, no, it isn't  :-\


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: Timmer on July 09, 2017, 16:58:10
12 Lelant Saltings

I can see why you might think so but, no, it isn't  :-\
Yes you can, I quickly realized it wasn't...too many trees. The way the platform is built made me think it could be.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: old original on July 09, 2017, 17:24:25
When's the 24 hours up?   I got no. 12   ;D


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: Adelante_CCT on July 09, 2017, 17:26:24
22:41 today  :)

Edit - (and 16 seconds!)


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 17:32:04
When's the 24 hours up?   I got no. 12   ;D

22:41 today  :)

Edit - (and 16 seconds!)

As you've asked, Old Original, we can change that to 20 hours which will be up ... in about an hour and quarter.   I think all the ones I would regard as "easy" have gone ... so people have had a good chance.  I was VERY late posting last night and wouldn't want to risk anyone loosing their beauty sleep waiting up for the magic hour!


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: old original on July 09, 2017, 17:33:45
....chomping at the bit....


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: LiskeardRich on July 09, 2017, 17:49:11
When's the 24 hours up?   I got no. 12   ;D

Me too, I've got number 10. I know exactly where that cast iron fire hydrant sign is,


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: chuffed on July 09, 2017, 17:58:50
9. Paddington on Wednesday and Thursday evening last week ! ???


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: bobm on July 09, 2017, 18:03:50
6 - St Ives Branch - the last stretch before it descends the incline into St Ives.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 18:05:30
6 - St Ives Branch - the last stretch before it descends the incline into St Ives.

Oh gosh - very close


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 18:08:37
6 - St Ives Branch - the last stretch before it descends the incline into St Ives.

Oh gosh - very close

Correction - not all that close ... I got two pictures mixed up - thought you were referring to the one already identified as Carbis Bay.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: SandTEngineer on July 09, 2017, 18:12:24
I don't think the narrower gauge railway at Woody Bay is in public use at all.

Yes it is.  I have travelled on it.  Its a 7 1/4 inch gauge railway. I think it only runs now on special event days on the 'main line' ;)


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: bobm on July 09, 2017, 19:02:35
6 - St Ives Branch - the last stretch before it descends the incline into St Ives.

Oh gosh - very close

Correction - not all that close ... I got two pictures mixed up - thought you were referring to the one already identified as Carbis Bay.

In that case I lost out on my 50/50 guess!


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: old original on July 09, 2017, 19:03:24
At the risk of looking  foolish... I would say, what would you expect to find between no 11 Penmere and no 13 Falmouth Docks......

No12 Falmouth Town.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 19:07:25
At the risk of looking  foolish... I would say, what would you expect to find between no 11 Penmere and no 13 Falmouth Docks......

No12 Falmouth Town.

You are correct ... I was playing about with some Dell-icate clues if they were needed because I think that station use to be know as "The Dell" rather than "Falmouth Town".


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: bradshaw on July 09, 2017, 22:12:06
6 The view from Wharf Road bridge towards Lelant station on the St Ives Branch?


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: The Tall Controller on July 09, 2017, 22:25:05
I'm going to plonk for Taunton for no.9.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: AMLAG on July 09, 2017, 22:28:55
9 Taunton Down side Paddington end


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 22:32:26
6 The view from Wharf Road bridge towards Lelant station on the St Ives Branch?

Sorry - it isn't; not St Ives branch

I'm going to plonk for Taunton for no.9.

Good bit of plonking.  And a necessary sign too - even with it there I met a lady standing outside these gates asking how her visitor who was "trapped" on the inside could reach her.   I showed her up through the start of the carpark to the platform barrier that has replaced this entrance.

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/tauntonbarrier.jpg)



Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: ellendune on July 09, 2017, 22:55:42
Ok so now we are past 24 hours...

6.  I think this is Looe Branch.  Near Liskeard


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 09, 2017, 22:59:18
Ok so now we are past 24 hours...

6.  I think this is Looe Branch.  Near Liskeard

It isn't there either ... it's a very tough one this as there are not (m)any clues in the picture.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: marky7890 on July 10, 2017, 00:52:55
10. Truro?


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 10, 2017, 05:43:08
10. Truro?

Yes, it is.

Just number 6 to get

06: (http://www.wellho.net/pix/wcadv_06.jpg)


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: SandTEngineer on July 10, 2017, 08:02:46
No.6  On the Falmouth branch between Penmere platform and Falmouth Town.


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: grahame on July 10, 2017, 08:08:51
No.6  On the Falmouth branch between Penmere platform and Falmouth Town.

Yes - that's correct.  Although a national rail location, this was probably the hardest picture in the quiz as there are so few clues!


Title: Re: A week to the west
Post by: SandTEngineer on July 10, 2017, 09:35:45
No.6  On the Falmouth branch between Penmere platform and Falmouth Town.

Yes - that's correct.  Although a national rail location, this was probably the hardest picture in the quiz as there are so few clues!
During an earlier life I walked that track section a few times.  I remembered the fence top right and the houses behind the trees on the left.  Yes, sad I know...... ::) :P



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