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Title: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: bobm on September 16, 2017, 10:03:56
Given the day of the week and time of the night I can foresee a few problems for late night travellers on this one...

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Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: grahame on September 16, 2017, 10:26:55
Given the day of the week and time of the night I can foresee a few problems for late night travellers on this one...

Could be a wee problem ...


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: ChrisB on September 16, 2017, 12:34:08
If you gotta go, you gotta go!

Tiddles on platforms I suspect


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: grahame on September 16, 2017, 15:08:45
If you gotta go, you gotta go!

Tiddles on platforms I suspect

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Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: JayMac on September 16, 2017, 19:39:43
How can it be known at 0838 that there will be no toilet facilities on a train 12 hours later?


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: rogerw on September 16, 2017, 19:49:20
It has been showing up on that diagram all day, although you would ythink that a set swap could have been arranged before that late working.  At least one Cl 143 was running around Devon on Wednesday with no toilet facilities as I had teh "pleasure of a round trip Exeter/Exmouth/Barnstaple/Exeter on it. Cross legged by the end  ::)


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: bobm on September 16, 2017, 20:02:18
How can it be known at 0838 that there will be no toilet facilities on a train 12 hours later?

At 1 o'clock the message was updated to show the service would now be three coaches rather than two - but still no toilet.  Not sure if that's correct.  Has a longer train with no toilets been swapped for a shorter one also without toilets or has part of the old message been left in error?


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: JayMac on September 16, 2017, 21:22:51
Was the GWR working into Cardiff forming that service also shown as bogless?

Is there a 150 set running around formed DMS-DMS instead of the usual DMS-DMSL?


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Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 16, 2017, 21:38:03
Both now added to the Coffee Shop forum's list of abbreviations and acronyms (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/acronyms.html).  :)



Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: phile on September 16, 2017, 21:54:48
It is being worked from Cardiff to Bristol by 2x150/9s. the rear one detaching Bristol TM.   It is booked 2 sets for this portion of the journey, a 150/9 going on to Exeter and a 150 detaching at Bristol TM.    So it may not be bogless now as the notification has been removed from Journey Check..


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: grahame on September 16, 2017, 23:01:02
It is being worked from Cardiff to Bristol by 2x150/9s. the rear one detaching Bristol TM.   It is booked 2 sets for this portion of the journey, a 150/9 going on to Exeter and a 150 detaching at Bristol TM.    So it may not be bogless now as the notification has been removed from Journey Check..

I didn't even know there were still two 150/9 units around - though I bumped into 150926 (in a non-literal way) somewhere the other day - I presume it and 150925 have been busy out of Exeter this summer.

These six carriages have only 2 toilets between them (they're 2 x 3 rather than 3 x 2 car formations to ensure a loo on every train) so in the event of  single toilet failure, that's no loo left on a 3 car train.  Other 3 car setups (158s and 150+153) have 2 loos ... not sure about 150002 which is at large in The West too.


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: SandTEngineer on September 17, 2017, 08:31:46
It is being worked from Cardiff to Bristol by 2x150/9s. the rear one detaching Bristol TM.   It is booked 2 sets for this portion of the journey, a 150/9 going on to Exeter and a 150 detaching at Bristol TM.    So it may not be bogless now as the notification has been removed from Journey Check..

I didn't even know there were still two 150/9 units around - though I bumped into 150926 (in a non-literal way) somewhere the other day - I presume it and 150925 have been busy out of Exeter this summer.

These six carriages have only 2 toilets between them (they're 2 x 3 rather than 3 x 2 car formations to ensure a loo on every train) so in the event of  single toilet failure, that's no loo left on a 3 car train.  Other 3 car setups (158s and 150+153) have 2 loos ... not sure about 150002 which is at large in The West too.

...perhaps its been working the Looe branch ::) :P



Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: grahame on September 17, 2017, 09:09:55
...perhaps its been working the Looe branch ::) :P

For today ... many like this ...

Quote
18:19 Looe to Liskeard due 18:47
Facilities on the 18:19 Looe to Liskeard due 18:47.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 1.

Perhaps there's an artist's convention there in the style of Two Loos Lautrec (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Toulouse-Lautrec)?



Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: onthecushions on September 17, 2017, 15:40:42
Was the GWR working into Cardiff forming that service also shown as bogless?

Is there a 150 set running around formed DMS-DMS instead of the usual DMS-DMSL?


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Aren't there 7 TSOL cars available from the shortened Class 321's sent to Scotland?

Why not make 2-car 150's into 3-car, even if without an engine.

We are supposed to be short of seats, after all.

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Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: John R on September 17, 2017, 19:14:15
I guess the performance of the units would be significantly worse, which would mean having to keep them on specific diagrams. That would be more complex.  That's assuming  there are no technical issues with sticking a coach from a different unit into a class 150 of course.


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: TaplowGreen on September 17, 2017, 19:28:23
Arrange to stop for a bit longer at a station or two with toilets en route for those who need to pay a visit?....is it really that difficult for anyone within GWR to use their imagination?


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: Surrey 455 on September 17, 2017, 19:36:02
Perhaps the onboard crew could hand these (https://www.amazon.co.uk/OOCOME-Portable-Capacity-Thicken-Anti-odor/dp/B072MH7FZR/ref=sr_1_25_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1505673186&sr=8-25&keywords=urine+bottles+for+men) out. ;)


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 17, 2017, 20:50:03
That could be interpreted as another example of GWR staff taking the p!ss.  ::) :o ;D



Title: The old ones are the best ...
Post by: grahame on April 26, 2018, 20:20:55
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20:52 Cardiff Central to Westbury due 22:50
Facilities on the 20:52 Cardiff Central to Westbury due 22:50.
Toilet facilities are not available.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Additional Information
We apologise for the inconvenience this may cause.

fellow admins / moderators - please merge or delete if this is so old we had another thread the same!


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 26, 2018, 21:48:51
Topics now moved and merged, as requested.  ;) :D ;D



Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: grahame on April 27, 2018, 03:29:20
Topics now moved and merged, as requested.  ;) :D ;D



Thank you!


Title: Re: A rather inconvenient train
Post by: devonexpress on April 27, 2018, 19:32:00
Arrange to stop for a bit longer at a station or two with toilets en route for those who need to pay a visit?....is it really that difficult for anyone within GWR to use their imagination?

This exactly thing happened on the 16:00 from Plymouth to Paddington during the snow. Stops at Exeter St Davids & Taunton, before running non stop Taunton to Reading.



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