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Title: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 10, 2017, 01:04:15 pm
Years ago, I remember a press release trying to drum up excitement about the fact that a new consortium of insurance companies trading as The Mall Company had bought The Galleries shopping centre in Bristol, and that to be consistent with their corporate branding they were going to rename it 'The Mall' - something that would make perfect sense were it not for the fact that there was already a well-established and popular shopping centre called 'The Mall' some 11.5km to the north. They were adamant that this would not cause confusion. It did. The name only reverted to 'The Galleries' when they flogged the property to HSBC a few years later.

On their website (https://www.networkrail.co.uk/communities/passengers/station-improvements/new-stations-fund/), NR are referring to the new Portway P&R station as 'Portway Parkway'. Please tell me this name isn't going to stick! Apart from the fact that it's somewhat tonguetwistular, it is within 15km of another popular Parkway station. This way lies madness.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Bmblbzzz on October 10, 2017, 01:21:30 pm
An acquaintance used to make weekly journeys between Doncaster (or thereabouts) and Exeter. Being a Yorkshireman who'd never encountered the Parkway concept, he always misheard it as "Bristol Partway". Which is how I think of it now! Though it is, AFAIK, the original Parkway station, taking its name from the M32 which was under construction at the same time, rather than any connection to Park & Ride.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: John R on October 10, 2017, 01:29:21 pm
Yes, it was the original parkway station. In my opinion the subsequent use of parkway has been somewhat devalued, where the only station in a town is given the Parkway treatment purely because it happens to have a big car park and is used by motorists as a railhead (Port Talbot and Didcot being the obvious examples).

After all, Kemble has just had a big expansion to its car park, and I suspect the majority of passengers don't hail from Kemble, so why not call that Kemble Parkway too?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: ellendune on October 10, 2017, 01:40:27 pm
Yes, it was the original parkway station. In my opinion the subsequent use of parkway has been somewhat devalued, where the only station in a town is given the Parkway treatment purely because it happens to have a big car park and is used by motorists as a railhead (Port Talbot and Didcot being the obvious examples).

After all, Kemble has just had a big expansion to its car park, and I suspect the majority of passengers don't hail from Kemble, so why not call that Kemble Parkway too?

Or take a lead from Ryanair and call it Cirencester Parkway!


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: John R on October 10, 2017, 01:49:41 pm
Wouldn't Ryanair just call it Cirencester though?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Bmblbzzz on October 10, 2017, 01:52:33 pm
No, it would be Kemble-London.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Andy on October 10, 2017, 01:52:55 pm
I've never really understood the sense of "parkway". Take the former Bodmin Road. Driving to Bodmin Parkway and catching the train to Bodmin wasn't possible because when the station was renamed, there was no service into Bodmin. Encouraging people to take the car from Bodmin and surroundings to Bodmin Parkway for travel elsewhere implies a big car park à la Tiverton Parkway.... which there isn't. Besides, if they want to catch the train, they have no choice, anyway.
 ::)

 
 


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Western Pathfinder on October 10, 2017, 01:54:30 pm
Much easier to name it Avonside Park&Ride Station.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 10, 2017, 01:56:47 pm
...call it Cirencester Parkway!

To my mind that makes sense, though the good burghers of Kemble might feel somewhat slighted.

I think 'Parkway' is actually a pretty good brand for a big out-of-town station, though as a concept (and notwithstanding the apparant car-bias of the current Western Super Mayor) its days are almost certainly numbered. With over-use, it becomes more like the (real) GWR's amusing habit of calling a station nowhere near the place it purports to serve '...Road', as in 'Bodmin Road'. What's that called these days? Oh.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Timmer on October 10, 2017, 02:05:32 pm
Was the parking at Bristol Parkway actually free when it first open as part of the attraction of using it?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: WelshBluebird on October 10, 2017, 02:07:28 pm
Don't think it matters what they call the station unless they manage to massively increase both frequency and reliability on the line, considering Shirehampton station is so close (10 minute walk) and how much more frequent and reliable the P&R bus service is, the station could well end up being a disaster anyway.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Bmblbzzz on October 10, 2017, 02:09:06 pm
With over-use, it becomes more like the (real) GWR's amusing habit of calling a station nowhere near the place it purports to serve '...Road', as in 'Bodmin Road'. What's that called these days? Oh.
Confused by also naming stations 'Something Road' because they're on 'Something Road', like Stapleton Rd and St Andrew's Rd. Has anyone ever ended up at the latter expecting a Scottish university or a round of golf?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 10, 2017, 02:38:30 pm
Was the parking at Bristol Parkway actually free when it first open as part of the attraction of using it?

Certainly was. I knew at least one person who used it as a handy place to store untaxed cars - which was fine for three months or so, and then BR would come along and tow them away.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Tim on October 10, 2017, 02:47:01 pm
Bristol Parkway is so named because the M32 was, at the time of construction known as "The Bristol Parkway"  http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_7767000/7767453.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_7767000/7767453.stm).  The station is named after the road and its name has nothing to do with car parking.  "Parkway" was originally an American term applied to scenic roads designed from the outset for motorcars and placed through parkland or countryside which could be driven on for pleasure.  When it came to the UK, the term lost some of the scenic connotations, but retained the idea of being a new road cut through the countryside into the city.  Only later did the surfix "parkway" come to mean either a station with a large car park (what we would call Park and Ride today) or alternatively a station which is some distance from the town it serves (not the case with Didcot)


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 10, 2017, 03:07:20 pm
...its name has nothing to do with car parking.  

If this was Wikipedia, I'd put one of those irritating {{citation needed}} tags next to that... do you think it possible that the folks who named it realised that 'park' can mean more than one thing?

As an aside: Why do we drive on parkways, but park on driveways?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: paul7755 on October 10, 2017, 03:26:37 pm
... Only later did the surfix "parkway" come to mean either a station with a large car park (what we would call Park and Ride today) or alternatively a station which is some distance from the town it serves (not the case with Didcot)

If "parkway stations" had to be named after the town they served, wouldn't they nearly all have to be named London Parkway?  Be a bit confusing on the way back... :)

Paul


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Bmblbzzz on October 10, 2017, 03:52:53 pm
Bristol Parkway is so named because the M32 was, at the time of construction known as "The Bristol Parkway"  http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_7767000/7767453.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_7767000/7767453.stm).  The station is named after the road and its name has nothing to do with car parking.  "Parkway" was originally an American term applied to scenic roads designed from the outset for motorcars and placed through parkland or countryside which could be driven on for pleasure.  When it came to the UK, the term lost some of the scenic connotations, but retained the idea of being a new road cut through the countryside into the city.  Only later did the surfix "parkway" come to mean either a station with a large car park (what we would call Park and Ride today) or alternatively a station which is some distance from the town it serves (not the case with Didcot)
I think there's a difference between parkway and park & ride, in that a parkway station is mostly used to take passengers away from one town to another, whereas a park & ride is used to take them into the centre of an urban area. A parkway disperses, a park & ride collects and concentrates. It's quite possible I imagined the difference in order to explain the different names before I knew of the M32 origins of parkway, but even after learning that (I think I only learned it earlier this year), I still like to try to see this difference, aware that I'm partly kidding myself. Though I also think that the way we use park & ride stations might have changed over the last decade or so.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: ellendune on October 10, 2017, 05:04:41 pm
If "parkway stations" had to be named after the town they served, wouldn't they nearly all have to be named London Parkway?  Be a bit confusing on the way back... :)

Paul

That's a very Metropolitan centred comment if I may say so. 

Us out in the 'provinces' do go to other places by train you know.



Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: stuving on October 10, 2017, 05:53:03 pm
There's no reason why a word can't evolve in meaning a bit at a time, from what Parkway meant, via a single example at Bristol, to become a recognisable marker for a station outside a town, suitable for people arriving by car, so they don't need to flog their way into the town centre. Now, I get the mental image from it of parkland (green fields) and a car park. The "way" bit does nothing to the meaning, but in Parkway as a label it needs to be there because Park is already in use for stations - you wouldn't like to confuse Worcester Parkway with Worcester Park.

The Portway half is not so very different. I understand Bristol Portway is recent, and was built for access to the new port facilities at he mouth of the Avon. The name Portway is old, and (while Wikipedia is uncharacteristically silent of the subject) I'm sure it comes from "port" as in portage, porterage, and porter - a road or route used for goods. Mind you that fits for the Bristol one too.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: ellendune on October 10, 2017, 06:03:22 pm
The Portway half is not so very different. I understand Bristol Portway is recent, and was built for access to the new port facilities at he mouth of the Avon. The name Portway is old, and (while Wikipedia is uncharacteristically silent of the subject) I'm sure it comes from "port" as in portage, porterage, and porter - a road or route used for goods. Mind you that fits for the Bristol one too.

I was taught at school that Portway meant the way (Anglo Saxon word meaning road) to the market (town).  There is a Portway along the bottom of the escarpment of the Berkshire Downs - that is nowhere near the sea! 


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: chuffed on October 10, 2017, 06:23:25 pm
Judging by the squeals of the wheels on the Class 166's, the name Porkway Partway is very apt. Perhaps it could be marketed as the Oink, Oink, Stuffing and Crackling railway ??


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 10, 2017, 06:37:55 pm
There's no reason why a word can't evolve in meaning a bit at a time, from what Parkway meant, via a single example at Bristol, to become a recognisable marker for a station outside a town, suitable for people arriving by car, so they don't need to flog their way into the town centre. Now, I get the mental image from it of parkland (green fields) and a car park. The "way" bit does nothing to the meaning, but in Parkway as a label it needs to be there because Park is already in use for stations - you wouldn't like to confuse Worcester Parkway with Worcester Park.

I think you've missed Bmblbzzz's point - Bristol Parkway was never "a station outside a town, suitable for people arriving by car, so they don't need to flog their way into the town centre"; rather, it was and is a station where Bristol (or should I say 'West of England' - pah!) people catch trains to other faraway places. So quite the reverse of a park-and-ride. As to the etymology of 'Parkway', I think it is at least in part a portmanteau of Park (as in 'ditch the tinwork') + Railway.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: martyjon on October 10, 2017, 06:49:08 pm
Bristol Parkway was the winning name in a competition held jointly by BR and the Bristol Evening Post to name the new station when it was being built. The winning entrants comment was he chose the name to reflect the fact that you would drive your car to the station car park and use the railway. It was, as has been stated, the first of the Parkway stations, the next one being Mansfield and Alfreton Parkway.

It was built on part of the former Stoke Gifford marshalling yard.

At one time I was told that the farebox take at the station exceeded that of Temple Meads.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: grahame on October 10, 2017, 07:07:57 pm
Tiverton and Bodmin Parkway strike me as being the modern equivalent of adding "Road" onto the end of a station name, to indicate that it's not an easy walk to the town centre, and with the added "flag" that it's easy for private car use. Others such as Warwick Parkway and Thame Parkway fall into the same camp.

Others such as Didcot Parkway are actually close by the town that they serve, but have a significant car to / from rail role - and we can add Wilton Parkway to that at soe stage.

Perhaps some other "Road" stations could be renamed? There are 50 stations with "Road" in their names, but many of those are named after a specific road - such as Navigation Road, London Road, Ferry Road, Victoria Road.  However, there's a ring to potential names like "Clarbeston Parkway", "Morchard Parkway" and "Llanbister Parkway", isn't there?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: stuving on October 10, 2017, 07:17:43 pm
I think you've missed Bmblbzzz's point - Bristol Parkway was never "a station outside a town, suitable for people arriving by car, so they don't need to flog their way into the town centre"; rather, it was and is a station where Bristol (or should I say 'West of England' - pah!) people catch trains to other faraway places. So quite the reverse of a park-and-ride. As to the etymology of 'Parkway', I think it is at least in part a portmanteau of Park (as in 'ditch the tinwork') + Railway.

And I think you've missed my points - that the word's meaning has changed from what is was initially (before Bristol had one), via the first examples, to what it is now. And also (though I didn't make this as clear as I might have) that without Wherever Parkway, the alternative station was in a town centre (Wherever or somewhere else), and that's where drivers would have to go to get a train.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 10, 2017, 08:07:35 pm

...the word's meaning has changed from what is was initially (before Bristol had one), via the first examples, to what it is now. And also.. that without Wherever Parkway, the alternative station was in a town centre (Wherever or somewhere else), and that's where drivers would have to go to get a train.


For fear of a quibble too far, 'before Bristol had one' points to a time when the word had no rail-related meaning. But I do indeed take your point that whilst there was once a clear distinction between a Parkway station (for people leaving Wherever) and a Park and Ride (for people travelling into Wherever), that distinction has become blurred. Which is a shame, because it was a useful one.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: johnneyw on October 10, 2017, 11:12:06 pm
Portway Parkway sounds too rolled off the current station naming machine conveyor belt. Plain 'Portway' would probably be better. Surely there must be a more inspiring name for a new stop on the line that carries the majesty of the Severn Riviera Express at the gateway to the Avon Gorge?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: chuffed on October 11, 2017, 01:11:18 am
Gadarene Gorge or Gadarene Gate might do. One might have a  problem deciding who the swine are ...the passengers or the TOC staff ! They will all be asked to avoid phrases like 'chop chop', 'I could murder a bacon roll', or 'we were crammed in like sausages' to so not to offend the aural sensibilties of our porcine neighbours.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Adelante_CCT on October 11, 2017, 08:07:27 am
Any reason this topic is headed Partway and not Parkway?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: chuffed on October 11, 2017, 08:35:12 am
Just a bit of fun swapping the t and k around. Rumour has it that the latest train crew are called Harris & Walls, Richmond & Bowyer !


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 11, 2017, 08:57:14 am
Any reason this topic is headed Partway and not Parkway?

Yes. I thought it was funnier.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Adelante_CCT on October 11, 2017, 09:03:29 am
I get it now, don't mind me, I was getting confused with all the pork related discussion.

For some reason I rather fancy a fry up, that might wake me up a bit.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: chuffed on October 11, 2017, 09:09:39 am
I get it now, don't mind me, I was getting confused with all the pork related discussion.

For some reason I rather fancy a fry up, that might wake me up a bit.

Crackling idea, Gromit !


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Bmblbzzz on October 11, 2017, 09:17:55 am
Don't gorge yourself!


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 11, 2017, 11:35:23 am
Now if they every brought the railway back to Calne...

Calne Pork and Rind?
Calne Inter-rashernal?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: martyjon on October 11, 2017, 03:19:41 pm
Found a Parkway new to me, Bishops Parkway - Wells.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 11, 2017, 03:29:37 pm
Doesn't count if there's a space between 'park' and 'way' (https://goo.gl/maps/28Qo89P4tYs)!


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Tim on October 11, 2017, 04:05:51 pm
Now if they every brought the railway back to Calne...

Calne Pork and Rind?
Calne Inter-rashernal?

Please cure yourself of these puns, you silly sausage


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: chuffed on October 11, 2017, 05:18:38 pm
Is RS 'nuts' or just simply ir-rasher-nal ?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: TonyK on October 11, 2017, 07:52:17 pm
Don't think it matters what they call the station unless they manage to massively increase both frequency and reliability on the line, considering Shirehampton station is so close (10 minute walk) and how much more frequent and reliable the P&R bus service is, the station could well end up being a disaster anyway.

I think it was Friends of Suburban Bristol Railways who suggested building the Park and Ride next to Shirehampton station all those years ago. Nonsense, said the powers that be. The car park isn't currently very busy. I'm not sure that the station will change that enormously.

Could this catch on in Cornwall? We could have the Parkandillack Parkway Park and Ride.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: stuving on October 13, 2017, 11:22:36 pm
There is apparently a sort-of plan by Wokingham Borough Council to clear the site of Twyford station for development, and create a new Twyford Parkway a bit to the east (but only as far away as Ruscombe). This has only come to light in a leaked ITT for doing a "masterplan", so the details are a bit sketchy. The Wokingham Paper reports did mention a guide figure of £100M for a new station, plus £30M more to "move the Henley branch line" (!).

It's not even clear at this stage whether the "Parkway" label was picked by WBC, to make it an attractive feature of the new Ruscombe development proposal, or by the opponents as a dismissive "making it like ..." tag. And if so, like where? Is Didcot (the nearest example) so undesirable, seen from Twyford?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Sixty3Closure on October 14, 2017, 12:35:50 am
Hadn't picked up on that in the plans. I'd assumed they were talking about a Park and Ride to the current Twyford station. Considering WBCs plans would double the size of Twyford moving the station seems a minor point.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Rhydgaled on October 15, 2017, 10:38:08 am
Clarbeston Parkway
No thank you. I'm not sure Clarbeston Road station even has a car park (I've been dropped there to catch a train once, and can't recall noticing a car park). Also, a number of houses have been built around the station over the years so that, looking at it on Google Earth, 'Clarbeston Road' now seems to be a bigger village/hamlet than 'Clarbeston' itself. I think I've seen an address for a property in Clarbeston that gives it as Clarbeston, Clarbeston Road as well.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on August 05, 2020, 12:08:39 pm
Quote
BRISTOL COULD GET ITS FIRST NEW RAILWAY STATION FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS
By MARTIN BOOTH, Wednesday Aug 5, 2020

It has had as many delays as the trains it will serve, but a new railway station in Bristol is now back on track.

One million pounds has now been secured for the new Portway station on the Severn Beach Line from the government’s new Get Building Fund.

If built, it will be the city’s first new railway station for more than 20 years.

...continues (https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/bristol-could-get-its-first-new-railway-station-for-more-than-20-years/)
Source: Bristol 24/7

Nice of them to credit FoSBR for the photo..!


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: TonyK on August 05, 2020, 02:05:19 pm
The original plan, costing £400,000 and opening in 2013, seems nearly as long ago and far away as FoSBR's suggestion to build the park and ride by Shirehampton station.

In other news, still no sign of Glenn Miller...


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Western Pathfinder on August 05, 2020, 03:09:57 pm
This in today from WECA.https://www.westofengland-ca.gov.uk/seven-projects-share-13-7m-as-the-west-of-england-gets-building/.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: TonyK on August 05, 2020, 03:26:17 pm
This in today from WECA.https://www.westofengland-ca.gov.uk/seven-projects-share-13-7m-as-the-west-of-england-gets-building/.

There's something of the Trump about that Western super Mayor. That's a lot of spin on not very much.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: martyjon on August 05, 2020, 09:41:08 pm
I thought the PP station was already fully funded even before the recent announcement of funding or is it a blinder to mask the inflation since the last funding package was announced. How much of the present funding package will WECA/Mayor Bowles actually sign cheques for since the project has already been through the GRIP process. Mayor Bowles has to me an irritating habit of being foted at the completion of projects many of which were conceived before WECA existed.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: martyjon on August 06, 2020, 03:05:12 pm
I thought the PP station was already fully funded even before the recent announcement of funding or is it a blinder to mask the inflation since the last funding package was announced. How much of the present funding package will WECA/Mayor Bowles actually sign cheques for since the project has already been through the GRIP process. Mayor Bowles has to me an irritating habit of being foted at the completion of projects many of which were conceived before WECA existed.


In today's Bristles local daily there is an article on the PP Station which cites MP Darren Jones commenting on the very subject of the funding being re-cycling of old funding as new money, this saga goes on, why does it take so long for anything to get done in Bristol where a public body is involved ?


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: TonyK on August 06, 2020, 03:19:39 pm

In today's Bristles local daily there is an article on the PP Station which cites MP Darren Jones commenting on the very subject of the funding being re-cycling of old funding as new money, this saga goes on, why does it take so long for anything to get done in Bristol where a public body is involved ?


This one breaks new records, then, having been announced for the first time by the LibDem administration and/or the LEP as long ago as 2010, then again at regular intervals thereafter.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: johnneyw on August 06, 2020, 10:13:12 pm
Now, last I heard, shovels are supposed to be in ground next month.  I'm wondering what odds a competent bookie would put on that actually happening.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: TonyK on August 07, 2020, 10:09:51 am
Now, last I heard, shovels are supposed to be in ground next month.  I'm wondering what odds a competent bookie would put on that actually happening.

Wasn't WRECA supposed to get rid of all this inertia in transport projects. At this rate, Ashley Down will still be at the announcement stage at the beginning of the next century.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: grahame on August 08, 2020, 07:00:24 am
I am posting this as a news article, though there seems very little new in this news. From the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-53664639)

Quote
A project to create a new railway station in Bristol has received £1.5m in funding.

A single platform station is planned at the Portway on the Severn Beach line between Avonmouth and Shirehampton.

The money has been allocated from the government's Getting Building Fund (GBF).

A council spokesperson said work was set to start on site at the end of this year and construction would be completed "in the summer of 2021".

A report to Bristol City Council in December revealed the cost of building the new station faced a £1m shortfall.

Development work saw the project costs rise to between £3.4m and £3.6m, with track drainage, lighting, walkways and passenger waiting shelters cited as reasons for the rise.



Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: TonyK on August 08, 2020, 11:36:47 am
I am posting this as a news article, though there seems very little new in this news. From the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-53664639)

Quote
A project to create a new railway station in Bristol has received £1.5m in funding.

A single platform station is planned at the Portway on the Severn Beach line between Avonmouth and Shirehampton.

The money has been allocated from the government's Getting Building Fund (GBF).

A council spokesperson said work was set to start on site at the end of this year and construction would be completed "in the summer of 2021".

A report to Bristol City Council in December revealed the cost of building the new station faced a £1m shortfall.

Development work saw the project costs rise to between £3.4m and £3.6m, with track drainage, lighting, walkways and passenger waiting shelters cited as reasons for the rise.



That is absolutely ridiculous. Either the station was designed without lighting, walkways and shelters, and the drainage somehow didn't matter until the station was built, or somebody is finding excuses for the cost going up, when the probable reason is the delay. Even for WRECA, £1 million seems a bit steep for a couple of bus shelters and a light.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Western Pathfinder on August 08, 2020, 12:16:13 pm
Piss up and brewery spring to mind ...


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: martyjon on August 10, 2020, 08:19:59 am
Report in todays Bristles local daily of another delay to this project but confirms that the project is now fully funded. Yes fully funded at todays costs but how about the inflation that will occur between yesterdays projected completion date and the now newly delayed completion date together with the revelation that design work for the project has not been started yet. Let me put another damper on this project, do they know if they own the land on which the platform will be sited.    😗


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on August 10, 2020, 12:44:49 pm
Full story is here: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristols-new-train-station-delayed-4405716


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: martyjon on August 10, 2020, 12:58:42 pm
Full story is here: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristols-new-train-station-delayed-4405716


But the article claims Filton Abbey Wood was the last station opened in the city when it is in fact in South Gloucestershire.



Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Bmblbzzz on August 10, 2020, 01:06:25 pm
In the city but not the City. Or to quote Grahame Reading General, "the leech-like suburbs".  :D

Edited to correct attribution (see below!).


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: grahame on August 10, 2020, 01:44:43 pm
In the city but not the City. Or to quote Grahame, "the leech-like suburbs".  :D

Hey ... those are NOT my words.   Used by member Reading General ((here)) (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=22464.msg276185#msg276185) last November referred back to by three other members, but never my words and probably not wording I would re-use or concur with!


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on August 10, 2020, 01:49:53 pm
I did think that sounded less diplomatic than the grahame I know..!


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Bmblbzzz on August 10, 2020, 04:14:35 pm
In the city but not the City. Or to quote Grahame, "the leech-like suburbs".  :D

Hey ... those are NOT my words.   Used by member Reading General ((here)) (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=22464.msg276185#msg276185) last November referred back to by three other members, but never my words and probably not wording I would re-use or concur with!
Sorry. For some reason I remembered it as being your phrase.


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: grahame on August 10, 2020, 05:38:02 pm
Not sure if we've heard this news ... I think I may have heard similar before?

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Portway train station is delayed again

from Bristol Live (https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristols-new-train-station-delayed-4405716) this morning

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The completion date for Bristol's first new train station in decades has been delayed due to coronavirus.

Portway station, at Portway Park and Ride in Avonmouth, had been due to open later this year.

It secured £1m of government funding last week, but the entire project will cost about three and a half million pounds.

Bristol City Council has since confirmed that the project is no longer on track to open by December, although it is now fully funded.

A spokesperson told Bristol Live: “ The Portway station scheme is fully funded, with the cost of the project - which includes work that has already taken place - being between £3.4-3.6m

“Following some delays due to the pandemic, detailed project design is now progressing, with work set to start on site at the end of this year ahead of completion of construction in the summer of 2021.’’

Oh ... scrolling down ... think it's a retelling of a story from a few years days back ...


Title: Re: Porkway Partway
Post by: Red Squirrel on August 10, 2020, 05:56:59 pm
Not sure if we've heard this news ... I think I may have heard similar before?

...

Maybe you read it here?  ;D

Report in todays Bristles local daily of another delay to this project but confirms that the project is now fully funded. Yes fully funded at todays costs but how about the inflation that will occur between yesterdays projected completion date and the now newly delayed completion date together with the revelation that design work for the project has not been started yet. Let me put another damper on this project, do they know if they own the land on which the platform will be sited.    😗



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