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All across the Great Western territory => Your rights and redress => Topic started by: grahame on November 21, 2017, 16:52:22



Title: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: grahame on November 21, 2017, 16:52:22
Is there a franchise requirement on GWR to display a poster at each of their stations with train departure times from that station?


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: stuving on November 21, 2017, 17:37:06
Is there a franchise requirement on GWR to display a poster at each of their stations with train departure times from that station?
Here, on page 119:
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1. Publishing the Timetable
The First Timetable
1.1 The Franchisee shall publish on the Start Date:
(a) the Timetable:
(i) at each staffed Station, by making the relevant information available upon request and free of charge in one or more booklets or in other similar form;
(ii) at each Station, by displaying the relevant information on information displays;
(iii) at each Franchisee Access Station, by providing to the operator of each such station the departure and arrival times of the Passenger Services that call at each such station and the principal Connections to any other transport services relevant to each such station in the same forms as are specified in paragraphs 1.1(a)(i) and 1.1(a)(ii); and
(iv) on the Franchisee's website; and
(b) the timetables of other Train Operators at Stations, in accordance with paragraph 1.4.

It doesn't actually say "poster", but comes close.


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: The Tall Controller on November 22, 2017, 10:25:38
Yes.


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: froome on November 22, 2017, 10:51:48
Presumably 'information displays' could also mean electronic displays. I would be interested to know whether it can be inferred that there is also a franchise requirement for those, as they can also give information on current punctuality.


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: ChrisB on March 08, 2018, 11:59:14
|So long as you can look up times for future dates....

But generally, the A-Z poster(s) are usually the item that satisfies this requirement.


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: grahame on March 08, 2018, 12:20:24
|So long as you can look up times for future dates....

But generally, the A-Z poster(s) are usually the item that satisfies this requirement.

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at each Franchisee Access Station, by providing to the operator of each such station the departure and arrival times of the Passenger Services that call

How does the A to Z provide arrival times to satisfy that requirement?

Why do we call it an A to Z when there are no "Z" stations?   We have a B to Y in Melksham!


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: ChrisB on March 08, 2018, 13:00:11
The A to Zs I've looked at show arrival times.....have you looked recently? :-)


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: grahame on March 08, 2018, 13:08:41
The A to Zs I've looked at show arrival times.....have you looked recently? :-)

Indeed - they show arrival times at the destination.  The requirement is to show departures and arrivals at the franchised station ...  need to add a Z to A to fulfil that? 

P.S. Most people make return journeys.


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: ChrisB on March 08, 2018, 13:43:20
 Where's it state that arrival times are required?


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: grahame on March 08, 2018, 14:06:09
Where's it state that arrival times are required?

Page 119 of the franchise agreement, as posted "up thread" by Stuving and requoted by me.


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: ChrisB on March 08, 2018, 14:20:21
There's nothing there that says time of arrivals from other stations.


Title: Re: Timetable displays at stations
Post by: rogerw on March 08, 2018, 17:09:19
With reference to `A to Z' there was a suggestion some years ago when bus connections were regularly shown in rail timetables that the only reason that the bus connections to Zeals was shown was to give a Z entry in the index



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