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Title: Name for new station
Post by: grahame on December 27, 2017, 16:31:03
From The Hill (http://thehill.com/policy/international/366551-train-station-next-to-western-wall-to-be-named-after-trump-following)

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Israel's transportation minister announced on Wednesday that a train station set to be built adjacent to Jerusalem's Western Wall will be named after President Trump to honor his decision to recognize Jerusalem as the Israeli capital.

“The Western Wall is the holiest place for the Jewish people, and I decided to name the train station that leads to it after President Trump — following his historic and brave decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the State of Israel," Yisrael Katz said, according to The Jerusalem Post.

A number of Irish Stations have been renamed after their heroes of their battles against the British; are there any examples in the UK of such namings after heros, and do members feel this would be a good way to commemorate leaders, heros, inventors or local characters?


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Oxonhutch on December 27, 2017, 18:33:18
Waterloo, Trafalgar Square ...

OK events, not peeps  :)


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Electric train on December 27, 2017, 18:49:02
Victoria



Paddington (named after a famous bear  ;D ;D ;D  )

May be Maidenhead should be renamed Nicholas Winton .............. shouldn't confuse anyone ...... should it  ;D


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Oxonhutch on December 27, 2017, 18:57:05
Edinburgh Waverley.

Romantic novel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waverley_(novel)) after the Jacobite cause ...

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Edward Waverley, is sent to Scotland that year. He journeys north from his aristocratic family home, Waverley-Honour, in the south of England, first to the Scottish Lowlands and the home of family friend Baron Bradwardine, then into the Highlands and the heart of the rebellion and its aftermath


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Red Squirrel on December 27, 2017, 19:16:15
I would certainly be prepared to second any motion to rename Bristol Temple Meads to COVEC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Overseas_Engineering_Group) Marvin Rees Intergalactic...


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Bmblbzzz on December 27, 2017, 19:26:11
John Lennon, but that's an airport. The Elizabeth Line.


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: grahame on December 27, 2017, 19:53:07
I came up with some possibilities:

Xxxxxx Daley
Xxxxxx Cleese
Xxxxxx Hooker
Xxxxxx Dors
Xxxxxx Park
Xxxxxx Shrapnel
Xxxxxx Kyle
Xxxxxx Pitman
Xxxxxx Zeta-Jones
Xxxxxx Button

Can you identify the towns that might thus celebrate their son or daughter



Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Oxonhutch on December 27, 2017, 20:08:04
Prime Candidates  ;D ... [in descending order]

Maybole [MAY]
Exeter St Davids [EXD]
Gordon Hill [GDH]
Blair Atholl [BLA]
Llantwit Major [LWM]
Robertsbridge [RBR]
Liverpool James Street [LVJ]
Harold Wood [HRO]
Small Heath [SMA]
Homerton [HMN]
Macclesfield [MAC]
Eden Park [EDN]
Energlyn & Churchill Park [ECP]
Attleborough [ATL]


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: ChrisB on December 27, 2017, 20:21:56
Victoria



Paddington (named after a famous bear  ;D ;D ;D  )

May be Maidenhead should be renamed Nicholas Winton .............. shouldn't confuse anyone ...... should it  ;D

Surely the station pre-dates the bear?!!


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: didcotdean on December 27, 2017, 20:42:16
Said to come from Padda's Ton, in the same way as it was Didda's Cot.

Liverpool Street Station is named after Lord Liverpool indirectly - the street having been given that name not long after his death.


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Electric train on December 27, 2017, 21:14:00
Victoria



Paddington (named after a famous bear  ;D ;D ;D  )

May be Maidenhead should be renamed Nicholas Winton .............. shouldn't confuse anyone ...... should it  ;D

Surely the station pre-dates the bear?!!

Hence the three  ;D ;D ;D ..........................  ::)


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: stuving on December 27, 2017, 22:17:59
Said to come from Padda's Ton, in the same way as it was Didda's Cot.

Liverpool Street Station is named after Lord Liverpool indirectly - the street having been given that name not long after his death.

But heroes? I'm not sure Lord Liverpool counts, and with people named for places (and vice versa) it's often hard to tell what came first. A typical example: the numerous places (including state and city) called Washington are named for a man whose name comes from a place named for a person (Wasa or the like).

Of course Wellington and Nelson do have stations, and if they hadn't maybe they would have been given new ones. Marlborough did - but had it taken away. But if we were even slightly inclined to hand out station names as accolades there would be a Churchill, wouldn't there? (I really don't think you can say Energlyn & Churchill Park is that.)


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: grahame on December 28, 2017, 07:37:24
There is indeed a blurring of people named after places and then the far fewer places named after people, with the confusion of the whole thing being cyclic.    Noting so obvious in England (yet?) as ...

Dublin Pearse
Waterford Plunkett
Cork Kent

I came up with some possibilities:

Xxxxxx Daley
Xxxxxx Cleese
Xxxxxx Hooker
Xxxxxx Dors
Xxxxxx Park
Xxxxxx Shrapnel
Xxxxxx Kyle
Xxxxxx Pitman
Xxxxxx Zeta-Jones
Xxxxxx Button

Can you identify the towns that might thus celebrate their son or daughter

As a starter on that list, let me give you
                     Swindon Dors
"Diana Dors was an English film actress and singer. She first came to public notice as a blonde bombshell in the style of American Marilyn Monroe, as promoted by her first husband, Dennis Hamilton, mostly via sex film-comedies and risqué modelling." (Wikipedia) - Born: 23 October 1931, Swindon


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: eightf48544 on December 28, 2017, 12:59:57
 Major-General Henry Shrapnel (1761–1842),: Woolwich Arsenal


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: grahame on December 28, 2017, 13:05:57
Major-General Henry Shrapnel (1761–1842),: Woolwich Arsenal

Born Bradford-on-Avon ... not sure if Woolwich or B-o-A would be the best place to commemorate him.


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Electric train on December 28, 2017, 13:28:08
Slough -John Betjeman ...................... Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough!  ;D

Although I think he would prefer St Pancras to be named after him


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: froome on December 28, 2017, 16:37:01
I came up with some possibilities:

Xxxxxx Daley
Xxxxxx Cleese
Xxxxxx Hooker
Xxxxxx Dors
Xxxxxx Park
Xxxxxx Shrapnel
Xxxxxx Kyle
Xxxxxx Pitman
Xxxxxx Zeta-Jones
Xxxxxx Button

Can you identify the towns that might thus celebrate their son or daughter



Weston-super-Mare Cleese
Frome Button.


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: rower40 on December 28, 2017, 22:25:38
Telford Central.  The town was named after the engineer, and the station was named after the town.
But Milton Keynes was already a village before the New Town was built, so was named after neither the poet nor the economist.


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Bmblbzzz on December 29, 2017, 19:56:49
Said to come from Padda's Ton, in the same way as it was Didda's Cot.

Liverpool Street Station is named after Lord Liverpool indirectly - the street having been given that name not long after his death.

But heroes? I'm not sure Lord Liverpool counts, and with people named for places (and vice versa) it's often hard to tell what came first. A typical example: the numerous places (including state and city) called Washington are named for a man whose name comes from a place named for a person (Wasa or the like).

Of course Wellington and Nelson do have stations, and if they hadn't maybe they would have been given new ones. Marlborough did - but had it taken away. But if we were even slightly inclined to hand out station names as accolades there would be a Churchill, wouldn't there? (I really don't think you can say Energlyn & Churchill Park is that.)
Surely some of the Washingtons are named from the Wearside town directly? Just like the Boston in Massachusetts is named for its less well known counterpart in the fens (but more importantly I'm pretty sure the brownies were named for the big one in Westpondia).


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Bmblbzzz on December 29, 2017, 19:59:30
And back on topic, how about reopening Adlestrop under the bang up to date name Cameron Parkway (CMD) ? !!!  :D


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: ChrisB on December 29, 2017, 20:30:37
CMD is Camden Road!


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: grahame on December 30, 2017, 08:06:35
Here's my thoughts - some more flippant than others

Plymouth Daley
Weston-super-Mare Cleese
Exeter Hooker
Swindon Dors
Melksham Park
Bradford-on-Avon Shrapnel
Reading Kyle
Trowbridge Pitman
Swansea Zeta-Jones
Frome Button


Here's our son of Melksham - from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Park_(Mr._Christmas))
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Andy Park has eaten 135,000 sprouts, 107,000 mince pies and drank 6,000 bottles of champagne since 1994. Over the years he has sent himself more than 235,500 Christmas cards.

In 2001, it was estimated that since he started celebrating he had got through 30 artificial Christmas trees, 10,000 m of tinsel and 10,000 balloons, at a (then) estimated cost of £100,000. In 2005, he released a single entitled "It's Christmas Every Day", with a video featuring Mike Read and produced by Andy Whitmore. There were suggestions in the media that much of the information released by Mr Park was false, and simply to attract publicity for the single:
He claims that each day he eats breakfast (turkey sandwich and mince pies), then goes to work, until returning around at lunchtime to eat a full roast turkey dinner before watching a recording of the Queen's Christmas speech, sherry in hand. In 2006, it was reported that the Queen had politely declined an invitation to broadcast her speech from his house.

In an interview published in 2006, Mr. Park was quoted as saying that, over the previous 13 years, he had consumed 4,380 turkeys (one a day), 87,600 mince pies (20 a day), 2,190 pints of gravy (half a pint a day), 26,280 roast potatoes (six a day), 30,660 stuffing balls, 219,000 mushy peas, 4,380 bottles of champagne, 4,380 bottles of sherry and 5,000 bottles of wine. However, in 2001, he was warned by his doctor that the diet was affecting his health after his weight increased to 19 stone (270 lb; 120 kg).

On 8 December 2015, Park appeared on the Channel 5 documentary Crackers about Christmas. The show explains how Park wanted his single to reach Christmas number one and he still follows his daily routine now in 2015, however, following recent reports in the Daily Mirror, he has decided to stop celebrating daily after Christmas 2015 due to wiping out his savings and being at risk of losing his home. However, after just two weeks of abstention, Park returned to celebrating every day, citing his love for the holiday being too great. On 27th December 2017, Park announced enough was enough. In an interview with the South Milford Gazette, he acknowledged that the very idea of eating a Christmas dinner every day was ridiculous, and that he did not know what he had been thinking. Park subsequently announced that in the New Year he will stop celebrating Christmas, even on Christmas Day, and will instead celebrate Easter every day, with chocolate eggs for breakfast, lunch and dinner.


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: TaplowGreen on December 30, 2017, 08:57:16
Here's my thoughts - some more flippant than others

Plymouth Daley
Weston-super-Mare Cleese
Exeter Hooker
Swindon Dors
Melksham Park
Bradford-on-Avon Shrapnel
Reading Kyle
Trowbridge Pitman
Swansea Zeta-Jones
Frome Button


Here's our son of Melksham - from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Park_(Mr._Christmas))
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Andy Park has eaten 135,000 sprouts, 107,000 mince pies and drank 6,000 bottles of champagne since 1994. Over the years he has sent himself more than 235,500 Christmas cards.

In 2001, it was estimated that since he started celebrating he had got through 30 artificial Christmas trees, 10,000 m of tinsel and 10,000 balloons, at a (then) estimated cost of £100,000. In 2005, he released a single entitled "It's Christmas Every Day", with a video featuring Mike Read and produced by Andy Whitmore. There were suggestions in the media that much of the information released by Mr Park was false, and simply to attract publicity for the single:
He claims that each day he eats breakfast (turkey sandwich and mince pies), then goes to work, until returning around at lunchtime to eat a full roast turkey dinner before watching a recording of the Queen's Christmas speech, sherry in hand. In 2006, it was reported that the Queen had politely declined an invitation to broadcast her speech from his house.

In an interview published in 2006, Mr. Park was quoted as saying that, over the previous 13 years, he had consumed 4,380 turkeys (one a day), 87,600 mince pies (20 a day), 2,190 pints of gravy (half a pint a day), 26,280 roast potatoes (six a day), 30,660 stuffing balls, 219,000 mushy peas, 4,380 bottles of champagne, 4,380 bottles of sherry and 5,000 bottles of wine. However, in 2001, he was warned by his doctor that the diet was affecting his health after his weight increased to 19 stone (270 lb; 120 kg).

On 8 December 2015, Park appeared on the Channel 5 documentary Crackers about Christmas. The show explains how Park wanted his single to reach Christmas number one and he still follows his daily routine now in 2015, however, following recent reports in the Daily Mirror, he has decided to stop celebrating daily after Christmas 2015 due to wiping out his savings and being at risk of losing his home. However, after just two weeks of abstention, Park returned to celebrating every day, citing his love for the holiday being too great. On 27th December 2017, Park announced enough was enough. In an interview with the South Milford Gazette, he acknowledged that the very idea of eating a Christmas dinner every day was ridiculous, and that he did not know what he had been thinking. Park subsequently announced that in the New Year he will stop celebrating Christmas, even on Christmas Day, and will instead celebrate Easter every day, with chocolate eggs for breakfast, lunch and dinner.


I know this is just a bit of fun, but when one considers that my own beloved city of Plymouth gave the World men like Robert Falcon Scott, Michael Foot and Francis Drake, if the best we could do is name a station after Tom Daley it would make me weep............knowing Plymouth City Council however (especially when Tudor Evans is periodically in charge) it wouldn't surprise me - if there were to be another one to add to North Road, call it Friary, that'd bring back a lot of happy memories for local people!

(Not sure that even Plymouth can match Melksham's most famous son however, even though Cap'n Jasper does his best!!!)


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Bob_Blakey on December 30, 2017, 11:09:55

...but when one considers that my own beloved city of Plymouth gave the World men like ... Francis Drake, ...

The good burghers of Tavistock might take issue with you on that particular statement!  ;D


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 30, 2017, 17:03:17
...but when one considers that my own beloved city of Plymouth gave the World men like ... Francis Drake, ...
The good burghers of Tavistock might take issue with you on that particular statement!  ;D

Agreed.  And Robert Falcon Scott (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Falcon_Scott) is something of a controversial hero, despite his fame.

Rather than diver Tom Daley, I'd suggest swimmer Sharron Davies MBE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharron_Davies) for a Plymouth station naming (we attended the same schools, in Plymstock).  ;)



Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: TaplowGreen on December 31, 2017, 09:09:51
...but when one considers that my own beloved city of Plymouth gave the World men like ... Francis Drake, ...
The good burghers of Tavistock might take issue with you on that particular statement!  ;D

Agreed.  And Robert Falcon Scott (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Falcon_Scott) is something of a controversial hero, despite his fame.

Rather than diver Tom Daley, I'd suggest swimmer Sharron Davies MBE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharron_Davies) for a Plymouth station naming (we attended the same schools, in Plymstock).  ;)



..........simply not true I tell you! Drake was a Janner, born at Derriford, bought his pasties from Dewdneys (Ron, not Ivor!), drank in the Minerva and was regularly seen on the terraces at Home Park banging his drum!  :)

Most heroes have a whiff of controversy about them - by nature they are risk takers - some would have the statues of Drake torn down due to his involvement with the slave trade, but we now have a somewhat unfortunate habit of judging historical figures by the standards of our own time, rather than theirs.

Even though I fully get the village mentality prevalent within Plymouth (which in many ways holds it back), I am assuming that your suggestion of Sharron Davies Parkway is tongue in cheek?  (Although I guess each platform could be named after one of her husbands, there's been a few!!!)  :D



Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: eightf48544 on December 31, 2017, 14:29:23
just a thought  what about Wilson's field for Huddersfield after all his statue is in front of the station. Plus its got two real ale pubs in the station buildings.


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 01, 2018, 09:44:13
Maydenhead?


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: onthecushions on January 01, 2018, 14:00:36


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Israel's transportation minister announced on Wednesday that a train station set to be built adjacent to Jerusalem's Western Wall will be named after President Trump to honor his decision to recognize Jerusalem as the Israeli capital.

“The Western Wall is the holiest place for the Jewish people, and I decided to name the train station that leads to it after President Trump — following his historic and brave decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the State of Israel," Yisrael Katz said, according to The Jerusalem Post.


So it's actually to be Trumpton?

OTC


Title: Re: Name for new station
Post by: Bmblbzzz on January 02, 2018, 10:26:46
Maydenhead?
:D :D



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