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Title: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 03, 2018, 08:21:32
2018 got off to a good start yesterday, with only one pair of cancellations - the 16:22 Paddington - Great Malvern being terminated at Oxford, and the 19:44 return working cancelled throughout, both on account of train crew problems.

But today is worse, so Grahame's keeping of a log may be a sensible idea...

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05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 03, 2018, 08:40:47
Happy New Year:

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Due to a fault with the signalling system between Charlbury and Oxford trains have to run at reduced speed on the line towards Oxford.
Train services running through these stations may be delayed by up to 30 minutes. Disruption is expected until 10:30 03/01.

The 05:28 Hereford to Paddington and 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington both lost about half an hour between Ascott-under-Wychwood and Oxford. The 06:53 Worcester Foregate Street to Didcot Parkway arrived at Oxford 66 late and was terminated, and the 06:42 Hereford to Paddington departed Oxford 50 minutes late.

And a cancellation (at least as far as Cotswold Line is concerned):

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09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.

[edit to add details of later delays/cancellations]


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 03, 2018, 15:02:11
Yesterday GWR at least managed to get this service as far as Oxford:

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16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

and the return 19:42 from Great Malvern.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 03, 2018, 17:04:43
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15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to train crew being delayed.


18:34 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:31 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 03, 2018, 17:42:59
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15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to train crew being delayed.


18:34 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:31 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Which, with the cancellation of the 16:22 PAD:GMV, meant a three hour gap of down services beyond Moreton-in-Marsh. Customers on the 15:22 at Oxford were advised to go to the main concourse where road transport was being sourced.

However complex running a franchise might be, it does get to the stage when any sort of goodwill and understanding does evaporate. My partner gave up using GWR services in the summer and now drives to Reading.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: bobm on January 03, 2018, 19:22:30
Not sure how much it has been publicised but via Evesham tickets are being accepted via Swindon this evening.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 04, 2018, 07:58:36
There is something very very wrong with GWR, imo:

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06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

and the return 09:54

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16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

and the return 19:42

If I understand it correctly both these services - the former was also cancelled yesterday, the latter hasn't run at all this week - are supposed to be IETs.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Malvern hill on January 04, 2018, 08:31:01
I was going down to take a look at this new train, but it only got to Oxford.
1W14/1P25, didn't run yesterday either. Once so far.

 We in Malvern have the GWR (any of them) services lopped off, (even if they get to Worcester) so often.
It's a 'crapshoot' will they come or will they not?



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 04, 2018, 11:42:39
All IET services along the Cotswold Line are supposed to be crewed by the new Worcester depot IIRC, which has had a less than successful start - the depot manager has recently left after only a few months in the job. 

Not sure why they are short?  Possibly a case of relying on a small depot that is more likely to be affected by sickness or other issues that affect availability?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 04, 2018, 14:03:16
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10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 will be terminated at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service between Worcester Foregate Street and Hereford.
This train arrives Foregate Street at 12:47. Next WM train to Hereford is at 13:32.

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15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Further Information
Customers at Hereford travelling to Reading and London Paddington are advised to travel to Newport on Arriva train 15:51 Hereford to Tenby service and change at Newport for London Paddington.
Customers between Hereford and Worcester Shrub Hill travelling to London Paddington are advised to travel on the London Midland 15:39 Hereford to Birmingham New Street service and change onto Virgin West coast 17:30 Birmingham New Street to London Euston. Arrangements have been made for Great Western rail tickets to be accepted for these journeys.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on January 04, 2018, 14:11:05
.....and the 1622 ex-PAD stopper along the Cotswold Line cancelled yet gain, with the return too obviously. Hasn't yet run in this timetable?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 04, 2018, 14:27:43
Given all the cancellations, it seems a little petty to point out that the 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern has been short-formed all week - it's been confirmed it will be a Turbo again today. Presumably this short-formation is going to be a medium term pragmatism given lack of other available stock.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on January 04, 2018, 14:37:37
It would be good to hear from Hitachi (through GWR obviously) as to why they aren't putting out the contracted number of trains at lengths that should be appearing. THey are also contracted to have units on standby that can be put out in place of those failing, and don't appear to be doing this.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 04, 2018, 14:53:20
Given all the cancellations, it seems a little petty to point out that the 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern has been short-formed all week - it's been confirmed it will be a Turbo again today. Presumably this short-formation is going to be a medium term pragmatism given lack of other available stock.

I think that, and the 11:22 PAD-WOF and return are now booked to be Turbos until the next tranche of 800 operated trains are added in a few months.  Though it would be nice if they could manage to provide more than a third of trains in the first tranche!  We're steadily heading towards that tipping point I've been mentioning...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 04, 2018, 18:12:54
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15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will be terminated at Worcester Foregate Street.
It has been delayed at Reading and is now 28 minutes late.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway earlier today.


18:34 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:31 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway earlier today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 05, 2018, 05:40:10
Well at least it's consistent................

16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26


16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: CobboldCamper on January 05, 2018, 08:24:04
It's also misleading - the delay was at Paddington, not Reading:  I was on the 1552 to Moreton - a nice empty HST which was alongside the jam packed 1522 at Paddington and left (on time) 5 minutes after the 1522.  Small details but it does make you wonder if they are just making it all up


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 05, 2018, 08:48:25
It's also misleading - the delay was at Paddington, not Reading:  I was on the 1552 to Moreton - a nice empty HST which was alongside the jam packed 1522 at Paddington and left (on time) 5 minutes after the 1522.  Small details but it does make you wonder if they are just making it all up

To be fair, the delayed 15:22 wasn't that crowded when it left Oxford; certainly not in the rear carriage where there were a fair few seats available, though perhaps it was different at the front as the train manager did advise passengers that the Moreton-in-Marsh train was just behind and much less busy. After being turfed off the 15:22 when it was terminated at the last minute at Oxford the previous day, I decided it was best to stay put rather than risk another on the hoof termination of the 15:52 MIM service at Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 05, 2018, 10:59:34
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09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 is being delayed at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Is this an IET? (This service and the outward working had been cancelled the previous two days).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 05, 2018, 11:08:42
Yes it is. 800011 today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 05, 2018, 12:41:52
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12:21 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 14:38 has been cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.

15:22 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 17:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 05, 2018, 12:47:22
All IET services along the Cotswold Line are supposed to be crewed by the new Worcester depot IIRC, which has had a less than successful start - the depot manager has recently left after only a few months in the job. 

Not sure why they are short?  Possibly a case of relying on a small depot that is more likely to be affected by sickness or other issues that affect availability?

If the crew problems were at Worcester, then you'd expect the cancellation to occur in Worcester-ended pairs, as a Worcester-Paddington train followed by a later Paddington-Worcester one.  But this week, the cancellations are the other way round - a Paddington-Worcester followed by a Worcester-Paddington.

That would suggest to me that the problems are at the London end.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 05, 2018, 13:25:29
That sounds logical, until you look at the drivers diagrams, some of which have drivers travelling from Worcester to Oxford to do a trip to Worcester before returning to Oxford/London and then travelling back again at the end.  Here is a breakdown of some of the diagrams for this week:

WT321 (02:39 book on) is taxi to Hereford, work Hereford to Paddington and travel back Paddington to Worcester
WT322 (04:49 book on) is work Worcester to Oxford and travel back
WT9301 (05:01 book on) is work Worcester to Great Malvern and back
WT9302 (06:09 book on) is travel Worcester to Oxford, work Oxford to Worcester, work Worcester to Paddington and then travel Paddington to Worcester
WT9303 (11:12 book on) is travel Worcester to Paddington, taxi to North Pole, work North Pole to Paddington and work Paddington to Worcester
WT9304 (12:45 book on) is travel Worcester to Oxford, work Oxford to Worcester, work Worcester to Oxford, then travel Oxford to Worcester
WT9305 (18:46 book on) is work Worcester to Great Malvern, work Great Malvern to Paddington, travel Paddington to Oxford then taxi Oxford to Worcester

So, taking the example of 1W33, 16:22 PAD-GMV and return (the train that's not run all week, save for being a Turbo between Paddington and Oxford on Tuesday:
WT9303 works it from North Pole and then from Paddington to Worcester, having travelled up from Worcester, the WT9305 works it from Worcester to Great Malvern, then back through to Paddington before travelling back to Worcester via a taxi from Oxford! 

Optimal they ain't, perhaps 'staggeringly inefficient' is a better phrase - if Oxford drivers signed the new trains many of those diagrams would be more efficiently worked from that depot!  I am assuming over the next year or so these new Worcester diagrams will be optimised as the 800 workings are increased (along with Oxford eventually signing them) otherwise huge amounts of money will be being wasted, which the new depot was supposed to help save.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 05, 2018, 13:38:33
Gosh. Your description is appallingly accurate.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ray951 on January 05, 2018, 13:52:10
That is very interesting and helps to explain why the railways are so expensive to run and why there are never enough drivers.

In some of those diagrams there is only 1.5 hours of driving (WT321 Worcester to Oxford) or 3.5 hours of driving (WT322 Hereford to Padd). I assume that the length of a shift will vary (i.e. not fixed at 7 hours) and I appreciate that drivers will also have paperwork too complete, keep up to date with notices, walking time, etc. but that looks incredibly inefficient.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 05, 2018, 15:34:44
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15:22 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 17:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.

The next available service for some stations being:

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15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
It is being delayed at Hereford.
This is due to a fault on this train.

No sign on JourneyCheck of the 15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington making extra stops to fill the gaps as yet.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 05, 2018, 19:02:52
Having now looked in rather more detail at the content of those diagrams, I hesitate to ask the inevitable question - were they produced by a manual scheduler or by some piece of computer software?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 07, 2018, 08:52:15
Big hit today:
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12:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 16:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

14:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 17:56 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:05 will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 10.

16:34 Hereford to London Paddington due 20:04 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

18:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 21:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

18:30 Hereford to London Paddington due 22:13 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

21:42 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:16 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Cancelling the three up trains in the afternoon means that there will be no train from Worcester towards London from 16:32 until 20:31.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 07, 2018, 09:25:42
10 down to 3.............is that a record?


15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:05 will be reinstated.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 10.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 07, 2018, 10:22:44
10 down to 3.............is that a record?

Not sure ... seen 8 down to 1


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jdw.wor on January 07, 2018, 10:23:56
GWR are reporting a "Good service". How in all conscience can they morally do that with the situation on the North Cotswold line?
Any excuse explaining that the trains they are running are on time etc.etc and therefore it is a good service should be treated with the contempt it deserves.
As an ex BR operations manager I have given up trying to defend GWR.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 07, 2018, 11:58:36
Later, things have changed:
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12:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 16:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

14:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 17:56 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Customers are advised to catch the next available train service.

15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:05 will be reinstated.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 10.

16:34 Hereford to London Paddington due 20:04 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 10.

18:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 21:00 will be reinstated.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 10.

18:30 Hereford to London Paddington due 22:13 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

21:42 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:16 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

This does mean that there is a train in what otherwise would have been a four-hour gap.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on January 07, 2018, 14:08:10
10 down to 3.............is that a record?


15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:05 will be reinstated.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 10.
They needed to finish that statement off so it reads as follows:

"Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 10 and these will be rammed to the gunwales"

If my experience is anything to go by.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Timmer on January 07, 2018, 17:33:24
GWR are reporting a "Good service". How in all conscience can they morally do that with the situation on the North Cotswold line?
Any excuse explaining that the trains they are running are on time etc.etc and therefore it is a good service should be treated with the contempt it deserves.
As an ex BR operations manager I have given up trying to defend GWR.
I don’t know how anyone could defend the level of service that’s been served up to North Cotswolds passengers these past few weeks, it’s not been fit for purpose. Could Mark Hopwood hand on heart say his company is providing what people are paying good money for?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 08, 2018, 08:05:18
Just the one cancellation declared so far:

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05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:27 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on January 08, 2018, 10:20:40
09.21 from Paddington to Worcester cancelled too, and the 12.00 return.

Edit: And the 10.22 Paddington to Hereford, and the 15.14 return. 12.09 from Hereford caped at Shrub Hill.

Edit 2: 16.22 Paddington-Malvern, 17.52 Paddington-Worcester, 19.42 Malvern-Paddington, 20.59 Worcester-Paddington all cancelled.

Both the CLPG and Charlbury Town Council have written to Mark Hopwood asking what the ---- is going on (in politer language, no doubt).

Edit 3: 19.22 Paddington-Hereford also cancelled. Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 09, 2018, 11:15:16
Issues already reported in other sub-forums but cable theft meant the 05:28 & 06:42 Hereford to Paddington services were started from Worcester Foregate Street.

The signalling problems in London delayed the 05:47 Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill (which was terminated at Evesham) which then had knock-on effects on the single track just north of Oxford, delaying the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh - Paddington, 06:53 Worcester Foregate Street to Didcot Parkway (which was terminated at Oxford) and the 06:42 (not from) Hereford to Paddington. And I've just noticed the 09:54 & 10:59 Great Malvern to Paddington services are both starting from Worcester Foregate Street, again, as a result of the signalling issues.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 09, 2018, 17:02:52
And a special warm welcome for the 16:22 Paddington - Great Malvern, running for the first time this year.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 09, 2018, 18:54:20
As a HST rather than an IET.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 09, 2018, 19:27:06
As a HST rather than an IET.

However, the 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern was a Turbo (as it has been every day this month) although GWR's Twitter team advised it was due to become an HST this week.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: phile on January 09, 2018, 20:37:55
09.21 from Paddington to Worcester cancelled too, and the 12.00 return.

Edit: And the 10.22 Paddington to Hereford, and the 15.14 return. 12.09 from Hereford caped at Shrub Hill.

Edit 2: 16.22 Paddington-Malvern, 17.52 Paddington-Worcester, 19.42 Malvern-Paddington, 20.59 Worcester-Paddington all cancelled.

Both the CLPG and Charlbury Town Council have written to Mark Hopwood asking what the ---- is going on (in politer language, no doubt).

Edit 3: 19.22 Paddington-Hereford also cancelled. Unbelievable.

I hope that the parties who have written to Mark Hopwood have more success than I did.   I E-Mailed him direct to ask for a Public statement to be issued to apologise for and explain the cancellations due to train crew shortages, especially at weekends, and the more than usual number of trains under repair which has now become the norm.
I received a reply, not from the MD, but from Customer Services with a standard reply saying this will be investigated and a reply will be sent in due course.   Mark Hopwood is hiding.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 11, 2018, 13:51:53
A couple of cancellations just announced:

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13:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:41 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

and the return

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15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

From a selfish point of view, it's sort of good news as the 13:22 can cause a degree of congestion in the early evening rush hour from Oxford if it's running late.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 12, 2018, 09:24:34
And for today:
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06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on January 12, 2018, 14:38:33
Sorry - this is an observation, rather than an addition to the event log ...

What a way to run a railroad?

Cotswold Line passengers are ill-served by "GWR".  I suppose the much vaunted upcoming new timetable (well, vaunted in the Evesham Journal, if that qualifies) will just mean "GWR" have even more trains to pick from when they're randomly cancelling services because they refuse to pay for proper resources, like having enough staff, or, y'know, trains that work properly.

I worked on BR including a spell as signalman at Moreton in Marsh.  I can say there was no occasion I can recall when a train service got cancelled throughout.  On the Cotswold line, it now happens multiple times per week.  Cancelling a train in the London area may not have a great impact in that area; there are very likely other services for passengers' journeys.  But out here in the sticks, cancelling a train can mean a huge gap in the service.

I know I'm not the only one from the Evesham area who, needing to be in London, will drive to Oxford Parkway or Warwick to take a Chiltern service.  At least I can be fairly confident of getting there and back without hassle.

"GWR" need to either buck their ideas up, or hand the route over to an operator who actually cares about running trains


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 14, 2018, 05:14:01
Sunday January 14, at 05:10:

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09:35 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 12:25 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.

Facilities on the 13:15 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 16:04.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.

15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:05 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

18:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 21:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 14, 2018, 09:36:11
Sunday January 14, at 05:10:

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09:35 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 12:25 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.

Facilities on the 13:15 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 16:04.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.

15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:05 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

18:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 21:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

And

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08:00 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:54 has been cancelled.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

11:14 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:07 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 14, 2018, 10:27:29
It seems that the Cotswold line suffers very disproportionately taking into account the infrequency of services at the best of times - almost daily cancellations creating huge gaps between services.

Shortforming an 3 hour, 8 carriage HST service down to a 2 car Turbo is simply appalling.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 14, 2018, 10:50:25
It seems that the Cotswold line suffers very disproportionately taking into account the infrequency of services at the best of times - almost daily cancellations creating huge gaps between services.

Shortforming an 3 hour, 8 carriage HST service down to a 2 car Turbo is simply appalling.

It really shouldn't be down to just the odd train having an accident and needing significant repair of even being written off ... but GWR are two power cars down on what they expected at the moment due to collisions with trees, and I understand the damage isn't quickly fixable - indeed may not be fixed with the power cars in question now being amongst those withdrawn from service as they're displaced by IETs rather than heading for Scotland or Cornwall.

Yes, the (north) Cotswold line really is getting hit at the moment;  wouldn't like to comment on the operational choice between reducing London - Bristol or London - Cardiff to hourly, replacing London - Cheltenham Spa HSTs with a turbo between Swindon and Cheltenham Spa, and dropping north Cotswold services.

There are services (elsewhere at least) where planned trains are longer than they really need to be in the winter especially; issue is that at some time during the day the full capacity is often needed on the diagram.  Reduction in the length of a service isn't "appalling" by virtue of the reduction - it's only appalling if it results in the train having to carry more passengers than it can really cope with in comfort.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 14, 2018, 11:03:01
The main passenger flow on the 09:35 out of Paddington on a Sunday morning will be tourists off to Oxford for the day. Too many for a two-car Turbo. But if you're forcing them to change at Reading there are alternatives in the form of four-car Voyagers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: eXPassenger on January 14, 2018, 11:33:00
The main passenger flow on the 09:35 out of Paddington on a Sunday morning will be tourists off to Oxford for the day. Too many for a two-car Turbo. But if you're forcing them to change at Reading there are alternatives in the form of four-car Voyagers.

I wasn't aware that GWR had any Voyagers, or that any Voyager drivers had route knowledge between Paddington and Reading.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on January 14, 2018, 11:34:01
It really shouldn't be down to just the odd train having an accident and needing significant repair of even being written off ... but GWR are two power cars down on what they expected at the moment due to collisions with trees, and I understand the damage isn't quickly fixable - indeed may not be fixed with the power cars in question now being amongst those withdrawn from service as they're displaced by IETs rather than heading for Scotland or Cornwall.

The start of the year was always going to be challenging for GWR with the departure of the 180s, the Turbo/387 cascade, and the teething problems with the IETs.

But too many of the Cotswold Line cancellations are "due to a shortage of train drivers" or "due to a shortage of train crew". That's no-one's fault but GWR's.

In previous years, when there'd been really heavy disruption, passengers would board their morning train the next day to find a letter on every seat from the MD apologising. Season ticket holders would have been mollified with a couple of free first-class returns at weekends. We haven't seen any of that this time. Right now GWR isn't communicating with passengers, or stakeholders, or anyone, other than by the increasingly unconvincing "There is generally a good service on the GWR network" banner on their website.

Engineering issues and DfT-imposed cascades are one thing, but GWR is failing at the very basics of running a railway.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 14, 2018, 13:43:31
The main passenger flow on the 09:35 out of Paddington on a Sunday morning will be tourists off to Oxford for the day. Too many for a two-car Turbo. But if you're forcing them to change at Reading there are alternatives in the form of four-car Voyagers.

I wasn't aware that GWR had any Voyagers, or that any Voyager drivers had route knowledge between Paddington and Reading.

As the original says "forcing them to change at Reading", I suspect the original poster was thinking of Oxford passengers catching any HST out of Paddington and changing to a Cross Country Voyager at Reading - minimum 4 cars, occasionally 5!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: eXPassenger on January 14, 2018, 14:40:37
The main passenger flow on the 09:35 out of Paddington on a Sunday morning will be tourists off to Oxford for the day. Too many for a two-car Turbo. But if you're forcing them to change at Reading there are alternatives in the form of four-car Voyagers.

I wasn't aware that GWR had any Voyagers, or that any Voyager drivers had route knowledge between Paddington and Reading.

As the original says "forcing them to change at Reading", I suspect the original poster was thinking of Oxford passengers catching any HST out of Paddington and changing to a Cross Country Voyager at Reading - minimum 4 cars, occasionally 5!

Understood.  Apologies.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 14, 2018, 15:53:30
It seems that the Cotswold line suffers very disproportionately taking into account the infrequency of services at the best of times - almost daily cancellations creating huge gaps between services.

Shortforming an 3 hour, 8 carriage HST service down to a 2 car Turbo is simply appalling.

It really shouldn't be down to just the odd train having an accident and needing significant repair of even being written off ... but GWR are two power cars down on what they expected at the moment due to collisions with trees, and I understand the damage isn't quickly fixable - indeed may not be fixed with the power cars in question now being amongst those withdrawn from service as they're displaced by IETs rather than heading for Scotland or Cornwall.



Another illustration of the folly of using HSTs to potter around between Plymouth & Penzance, when they could be far more usefully and appropriately used elsewhere for the sort of runs they were designed for.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 14, 2018, 16:01:34
They were never designed for those runs either really, but for high speed limited stop trips between London and large cities on the east and west coast lines.  And over 40 years ago.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 14, 2018, 17:00:18
And for those of you who had changed your travel plans:

Quote
15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:05 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

18:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 21:00 will be reinstated.
It will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 14, 2018, 17:09:15
The main passenger flow on the 09:35 out of Paddington on a Sunday morning will be tourists off to Oxford for the day. Too many for a two-car Turbo. But if you're forcing them to change at Reading there are alternatives in the form of four-car Voyagers.

I wasn't aware that GWR had any Voyagers, or that any Voyager drivers had route knowledge between Paddington and Reading.

As the original says "forcing them to change at Reading", I suspect the original poster was thinking of Oxford passengers catching any HST out of Paddington and changing to a Cross Country Voyager at Reading - minimum 4 cars, occasionally 5!

Indeed, the alternative that the journey planners would offer would normally be a change at Reading into a CrossCountry - but whether that would appeal to a tourist is another matter.  My expectation would be that they would prefer the next direct train, one hour later.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 14, 2018, 17:15:34
Same reason as previous Sunday’s it seems.  Worcester’s new depot unable to cover their allocated turns, and Oxford (the obvious alternative) not signing IET’s yet, hence a scramble for a Turbo or nothing at all.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on January 14, 2018, 19:33:21
Indeed, the alternative that the journey planners would offer would normally be a change at Reading into a CrossCountry - but whether that would appeal to a tourist is another matter.  My expectation would be that they would prefer the next direct train, one hour later.

For Oxford-bound tourists, I suspect increasingly they would prefer the service from Marylebone...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 15, 2018, 02:46:12
For Oxford-bound tourists, I suspect increasingly they would prefer the service from Marylebone...
But if you're a visitor from overseas who has flown into Heathrow and is staying in one of the many hotels that cluster around Paddington, then you're not going to bother with Marylebone. Well, unless you've only come to London so as to go to Bicester Village.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 15, 2018, 02:50:12
In the interests of completeness, we need to record the fact that yesterday's 16:42 Paddington - Malvern was cancelled between Paddington and Oxford due to a points failure.

And today's cancellations have started early:

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:15/01/2018 01:52

19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:15/01/2018 02:35


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 15, 2018, 08:39:47
Not on JourneyCheck but the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington was a three coach Turbo instead of the usual HST. It did join up with another Turbo at Oxford so there were six coaches through to Paddington.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 15, 2018, 11:05:49
And more:
Quote
09:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:31 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:15/01/2018 07:16

12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:15/01/2018 07:16

11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:15/01/2018 10:02

13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:15/01/2018 10:02


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 15, 2018, 11:14:35
All six were supposed to be IET operated again but no trained drivers available, though the Shrub Hill to Foregate Street cancellation is comparatively minor of course.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 15, 2018, 16:05:00
It's an ever changing world on the Cotswold Line

Quote
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 was terminated at Ledbury.
It will no longer call at Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a fault on this train.

And some better news

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Slough.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 10.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 15, 2018, 16:18:05
All six were supposed to be IET operated again but no trained drivers available, though the Shrub Hill to Foregate Street cancellation is comparatively minor of course.

I guess a small detail like having drivers to drive the lovely shiny new trains is a minor detail, and so easily overlooked  ::)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 15, 2018, 17:48:59
All six were supposed to be IET operated again but no trained drivers available, though the Shrub Hill to Foregate Street cancellation is comparatively minor of course.

I guess a small detail like having drivers to drive the lovely shiny new trains is a minor detail, and so easily overlooked  ::)

Indeed - 'train drivers' are so last year.  ::)



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 16, 2018, 16:31:43
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26


16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will no longer call at Combe and Finstock.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8. First class reduced. Catering is not available.
Toilet facilities are reduced.

..............having been taking the p*** out of Cotswold Line customers for months, GWR have now decided to prevent them doing it themselves.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 17, 2018, 15:05:36
Quote
Facilities on the 16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Toilet facilities are reduced.

Facilities on the 19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Toilet facilities are not available.

The GWR crystal ball has a new capability - it can predict that the reduced toilet facilities will fail at Great Malvern about 19:30.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 17, 2018, 16:05:27
Quote
Facilities on the 16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Toilet facilities are reduced.

Facilities on the 19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Toilet facilities are not available.

The GWR crystal ball has a new capability - it can predict that the reduced toilet facilities will fail at Great Malvern about 19:30.



Are GWR turning the Cotswold Line into some sort of "Endurance" style gameshow? First they start cancelling all the trains, then they run them again but hugely short formed and/or starting/finishing short, then there's no food, now there's no toilets...............what's next I wonder, no seats or windows? Does the last customer standing get a free season ticket and night out with Mark Hopwood?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: johnneyw on January 17, 2018, 21:56:28



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Are GWR turning the Cotswold Line into some sort of "Endurance" style gameshow? First they start cancelling all the trains, then they run them again but hugely short formed and/or starting/finishing short, then there's no food, now there's no toilets...............what's next I wonder, no seats or windows? Does the last customer standing get a free season ticket and night out with Mark Hopwood?
[/quote]

2nd prize, 2 nights out with Mark Hopwood!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 18, 2018, 08:46:42




Are GWR turning the Cotswold Line into some sort of "Endurance" style gameshow? First they start cancelling all the trains, then they run them again but hugely short formed and/or starting/finishing short, then there's no food, now there's no toilets...............what's next I wonder, no seats or windows? Does the last customer standing get a free season ticket and night out with Mark Hopwood?
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2nd prize, 2 nights out with Mark Hopwood!
[/quote]

You'll have to find him first!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 18, 2018, 09:37:34
Not on JourneyCheck but the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington was a three coach Turbo instead of the usual HST. It did join up with another Turbo at Oxford so there were six coaches through to Paddington.

This service has been a Turbo all week - three coaches from Moreton-in-Marsh and a further three from Oxford. It's not been showing as a short-formation on JourneyCheck which suggests it's a planned short-formation rather than an on-the-day expediency.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Jason on January 18, 2018, 10:30:38
...hugely short...

Oxymoron of the week for sure :)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 18, 2018, 10:39:19
...hugely short...

Oxymoron of the week for sure :)

How dare you call me an Oxy.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Buckham on January 18, 2018, 12:10:19
Quote
Facilities on the 16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Toilet facilities are reduced.

Facilities on the 19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Toilet facilities are not available.

The GWR crystal ball has a new capability - it can predict that the reduced toilet facilities will fail at Great Malvern about 19:30.



I was on this train yesterday - and it was rammed from Reading to about Charlbury. I was interested to see that the 5 passengers alighting at Ascott convened on the platform for what appeared to be an impromtu meeting - presumably about the state of the "service".


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 18, 2018, 13:53:00
Accepting the early evening Cotswold Line service might be disrupted due to knock on effects of this lunchtime's points failure between Reading and Didcot, an old favourite is back:

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

and ditto the return 19:42 from Great Malvern.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 19, 2018, 14:31:59
....the song remains the same.....


16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.

This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 19, 2018, 15:16:43
....the song remains the same.....

Songs have a chorus ... which repeats and gives familiarity.   Arguably more accepted / acceptable than cancelling different trains (but the same number) in what appears to be an almost random way.  One of our TransWilts customers was saying to me today that if they're having trouble providing enough staff to run trains, why not have specific services that are actually declared as "first to go"?  Then the unfortunate regulars on tho services at least know to have backup plans.

For the 16:22 regulars - take heart.  The song and chorus do change in time.  It used to be the 07:15 Paddington to Cardiff that was top of the hit parade ...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 19, 2018, 15:52:11
....the song remains the same.....


16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.

This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

The song has changed!

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will no longer call at Combe and Finstock.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. First class reduced. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.

This service has been reinstated with a different type of train...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 19, 2018, 15:54:34
....the song remains the same.....


16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.

This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Good news ... unless you're travelling to of from Combe or Finstock

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will no longer call at Combe and Finstock.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. First class reduced. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
Additional Information

This service has been reinstated with a different type of train to the planned Intercity Express Train, owing to the change in the type of train forming this service we are unable to honour seat reservations that customers may have made for this journey.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 19, 2018, 16:33:33
....the song remains the same.....


16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.

This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

The song has changed!

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will no longer call at Combe and Finstock.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. First class reduced. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.

This service has been reinstated with a different type of train...


...............with a bit of luck you might even have a toilet too!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 21, 2018, 15:23:32
The 08:00 Padd'n - Great Malvern was cancelled betweeen Oxford and Shrub Hill due to (according to RTT) a planning error.

And today's bigger problem is
Quote
Due to a broken down train between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill the line towards Worcester Shrub Hill is blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 16:00 21/01.

This has resulted in the cancellation between Oxford and Hereford of
  • 10:42 Padd'n - Hereford
  • 12:42 Padd'n - Hereford
  • 14:32 Hereford - Padd'n
  • 16:34 Hereford - Padd'n


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 21, 2018, 15:45:02
The 08:00 Padd'n - Great Malvern was cancelled betweeen Oxford and Shrub Hill due to (according to RTT) a planning error.

And today's bigger problem is
Quote
Due to a broken down train between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill the line towards Worcester Shrub Hill is blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 16:00 21/01.

This has resulted in the cancellation between Oxford and Hereford of
  • 10:42 Padd'n - Hereford
  • 12:42 Padd'n - Hereford
  • 14:32 Hereford - Padd'n
  • 16:34 Hereford - Padd'n

And you can add the 16:28 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington to the list of services being started from Oxford but the 16:34 Hereford - Paddington will now start from Worcester Shrub Hill.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 22, 2018, 14:48:28
Earlier the 06:52 Paddington to Great Malvern and return were cancelled. Now we have:

Quote
14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

and the 17:26 return.

Were these supposed to be IETs?

However, better news considering the extra passengers it needs to carry:

Quote
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58
 
Facilities on the 15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58.
Will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 5.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 23, 2018, 13:32:29
......and the return run too (naturally)

15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be cancelled.

This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jdw.wor on January 23, 2018, 17:57:41
Does anyone know when the Cotswold Line had a day with the service 100% as planned?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: bobm on January 23, 2018, 18:24:22
Christmas Day and Boxing Day?   ;D


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 24, 2018, 08:48:08
...............It won't be today!

07:10 Moreton-In-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51


Facilities on the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 6 from Reading.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 24, 2018, 09:41:13
Especially as there’s now a tree on the line at Ascott.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 24, 2018, 10:22:44
...............It won't be today!

07:10 Moreton-In-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51


Facilities on the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 6 from Reading.


And GWR are being a bit disingenuous with this as it's supposed to be an 8 coach HST but as it's a planned Turbo-isation it's never reported on JourneyCheck.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 24, 2018, 10:25:14
Especially as there’s now a tree on the line at Ascott.

The morning service seems to be a write off - disruption expected until 12.30pm. I think, perhaps, we can forgive GWR this one...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 24, 2018, 10:27:57
Quote
Cancellations to services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill
Due to a tree blocking the railway at Ascott-under-Wychwood all lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until 12:30 24/01.
Train services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill may be cancelled or delayed.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 09:58

07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:15 will be terminated at Charlbury.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 09:24

08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 09:17

08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 is being delayed at Kingham.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 09:32

09:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:31 has been cancelled.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 09:23

09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30 will be cancelled.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 09:37

09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford but will call additionally at Cheltenham Spa and Swindon.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 32 minutes late.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 10:07

10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 09:37

12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 09:29

12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a tree blocking the railway.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 09:27


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 24, 2018, 10:29:18
The morning service seems to be a write off - disruption expected until 12.30pm. I think, perhaps, we can forgive GWR this one...
Indeed so!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 24, 2018, 12:26:01
Tree now out of the way - the 08:25 from Foregate St left Moreton at 10:48, some 86 minutes late.

And sending the 09:54 from Great Malvern round via Stroud doesn't seem to have cost it any time.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 24, 2018, 14:30:49
And sending the 09:54 from Great Malvern round via Stroud doesn't seem to have cost it any time.

That's one minor benefit of the new Worcester depot, as there's now a better chance the crew will sign the Stroud route, so handy for unplanned diversions.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 24, 2018, 14:33:34
Especially as there’s now a tree on the line at Ascott.

The morning service seems to be a write off - disruption expected until 12.30pm. I think, perhaps, we can forgive GWR this one...

Indeed we can forgive GWR ... the interesting question is "can we forgive the rail industry"?

I am getting increasingly concerned at the number of trains effected by a failure to deliver a route that trains can use to make their scheduled sequence of calls.  

Occasional  failures of infrastructure, especially where that's weather related, are only to be expected.    But such failures no longer seem to be occasional ... I'm seeing the number of trees down is rather high (I think 2 HST power cars are being retired as result of recent tree hits), and I'm seeing closure due to flooding of the main Bristol line twice in the last month due to flooding at or near where the track was recently lowered.  And failures due to overhead wire problems, which seemed to be very rare to effect GWR train a year ago, seem to be occurring quite a bit now.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on January 24, 2018, 15:13:32
And sending the 09:54 from Great Malvern round via Stroud doesn't seem to have cost it any time.

That's one minor benefit of the new Worcester depot, as there's now a better chance the crew will sign the Stroud route, so handy for unplanned diversions.

Shame they don't have enough drivers to sign the normal route!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 24, 2018, 15:33:35
Whilst I don't blame GWR for falling trees, this totally predictable cancellation is their responsibility!

Quote
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

and the return too.

I think it's time for another letter to my MP.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 24, 2018, 15:35:01
Quote
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 15:24

18:34 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:24/01/2018 15:24

Plenty of advance warning for that one, posted two minutes after departure.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ray951 on January 24, 2018, 15:51:29
As well as falling trees and lack of drivers and trains there was also a points failure at Oxford on Monday evening, and as well as impacting Cotswold line trains all Chiltern trains were cancelled and on Tuesday evening we had a signal failure!
And today, although this may not impact Cotswold trains, there is a train failure at Kings Sutton.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 25, 2018, 08:41:46
Quote
09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 25, 2018, 12:03:39
Only fair to report good news as well as bad:

Quote
Facilities on the 11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44.
Will be formed of 7 coaches instead of 5.

Quote
Facilities on the 14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44.
Will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 5.

and the return trips in both cases.

The more pertinent point is that were these supposed to be IETs and, if so, is it lack of stock or lack of suitably trained drivers that has resulted in these substitutions?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on January 25, 2018, 12:07:05
Cotswold Line travellers might be interested in this public meeting in Charlbury on 8th February, organised by the local MP: http://www.charlbury.info/events/5226


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 25, 2018, 16:51:02
Only fair to report good news as well as bad:

Quote
Facilities on the 11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44.
Will be formed of 7 coaches instead of 5.

Quote
Facilities on the 14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44.
Will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 5.

and the return trips in both cases.

The more pertinent point is that were these supposed to be IETs and, if so, is it lack of stock or lack of suitably trained drivers that has resulted in these substitutions?


..........then again.....

16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Oxford, Hanborough, Combe, Finstock, Charlbury, Ascott-under-Wychwood, Shipton, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 25, 2018, 18:48:43
But they weren't very good coaches:

Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Further Information
Customers between Great Malvern and Worcester Foregate Street are advised to travel on the next London Midland service to Worcester Shrub Hill.
Last Updated:25/01/2018 17:04


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JayMac on January 25, 2018, 21:13:50
But they weren't very good coaches:

Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Further Information
Customers between Great Malvern and Worcester Foregate Street are advised to travel on the next London Midland service to Worcester Shrub Hill.
Last Updated:25/01/2018 17:04

There'd be quite a wait for the next 'London Midland' service too. At least until refranchising, and only then if the name was resurrected.  ::)

Has nobody told GWR that the lead operator in that area is now West Midlands Trains?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 27, 2018, 07:28:36
......will customers please Cross their legs.....

12:13 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:26
Facilities on the 12:13 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:26.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8. First class reduced. Catering is not available. Toilet facilities are not available.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 27, 2018, 08:41:07
But we must record the most welcome fact that yesterday, Friday January 26, everything operated - no cancellations or short workings, for the first time this year.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 27, 2018, 08:50:10
Alas, today is a different matter. In addition to toilet-less travel we have RTT reporting

Quote
1P21 0554 Great Malvern to London Paddington
This service was cancelled throughout due to an issue with the train crew (TH).

JourneyCheck:
Quote
07:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:00 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:27/01/2018 05:45

08:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8. First class reduced. Catering is not available. Toilet facilities are not available.
Additional Information
A rail replacement coach service will operate between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill.

10:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to Hereford due 11:40
An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 10:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to Hereford due 11:40.
Last Updated:27/01/2018 07:45

10:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:27/01/2018 05:47

Facilities on the 12:13 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:26.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8. First class reduced. Catering is not available. Toilet facilities are not available.
Last Updated:27/01/2018 04:36

18:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 21:35 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:27/01/2018 08:12


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 27, 2018, 08:53:27
Shortage of train managers for most of that list.  Pathetic. GWR - Going Wrong Rapidly.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on January 27, 2018, 22:57:54
Shortage of train managers for most of that list.  Pathetic. GWR - Going Wrong Rapidly.
I sat on my case on a packed Turbo today until we reached Oxford at which point a seat became free. I had already worked out that it wouldn't be IET or HST through looking at RTT. However what annoyed one of my fellow passengers was the sight of loads of IET at North Pole sitting idle. My own annoyance was that when I arrived at Moreton in Marsh there was a poster saying something like:

Owing to electrification work trains may differ from the printed timetable on the weekends.

Didn't see one of those in Paddington which would have been nice.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 28, 2018, 09:11:51
Cosy.............and the return trip too! (on the upside there may be a toilet on this one?)



12:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 16:01

Facilities on the 12:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 16:01.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on January 29, 2018, 08:48:09

JourneyCheck 29/01/2018
 
11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44
11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

 13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


When was the last day on which the Cotswold's line service ran as advertised?

GWR should give-up this route and let an operator who cares run it


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 29, 2018, 10:17:00
When was the last day on which the Cotswold's line service ran as advertised?

26th January, I think  ;D (looking up-thread) ... but I'm getting confused between various "yesterdays" and "today"s up there!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 29, 2018, 10:30:11
Sorry - my fault with the date. But now corrected. And the correct answer is indeed Friday January 26.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 29, 2018, 10:39:33
Sorry - my fault with the date. But now corrected. And the correct answer is indeed Friday January 26.

1 day out of 29 so far in 2018 where the line ran as advertised (just out of interest, how many short formations on the 26th?)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 29, 2018, 10:44:38
Sorry - my fault with the date. But now corrected. And the correct answer is indeed Friday January 26.

1 day out of 29 so far in 2018 where the line ran as advertised (just out of interest, how many short formations on the 26th?)

Definitely the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington which has now been a Turbo instead of an HST for 11 days running (and, yes, I have mentioned it before!).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 29, 2018, 10:49:37
We also need to document that

05:11 from Worcester Shrub Hill started 32 late, due to "Delays to train crew". 33 late at Paddington.

04:47 from Hereford ran late and ended up having to wait at Charlbury for the single line. 40 late at Paddington.

05:28 from Hereford also ran late. 23 late at Paddington.

06:53 Foregate Street - Didcot was only 12 late at Oxford but (according to RTT) took ages to get into Didcot, arriving 45 late.

07:50 Paddington - Great Malvern was cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and Great Malvern due to an issue with the train crew (TG).

Quote
10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to congestion.
Further Information
Passengers for onwards connection to Great Malvern should await the 10:49 GWR departure from Worcester Shrub Hill for Hereford.
Passengers wishing to travel from Great Malvern should await the West Midlands Railway service from Great Malvern at 11:10 to Worcester Foregate St and then change for the 12:00 GWR departure for London Paddington.
Last Updated:29/01/2018 10:01


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 29, 2018, 10:54:38
We also need to document that

snip


And the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington (I've not mentioned that one recently...), although only 8 minutes late at Wolvercote Junction, left Oxford 18 late and arrived at Paddington 27 minutes late.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 29, 2018, 10:57:21
The pocket timetable has the following as Turbos:
  • 05:14 Oxford - Foregate St (06:22)
  • 06:53 Foregate St - Didcot (08:28)
  • 07:50 Paddington - Great Malvern (10:15)
  • 09:50 Moreton - Paddington (11:30)
  • 10:59 Great Malvern - Paddington (13:29)
  • 23:20 FO Paddington - Moreton (01:11)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 29, 2018, 13:49:39
And still they keep coming

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15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:02 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 29, 2018, 16:34:00
Now the 1522 Paddington to Great Malvern is being held at Oxford waiting for a crew member! As they say, you couldn't make it up.

Now terminated at Oxford leaving a two coach 1622 Paddington to Great Malvern service to deal with the 2 cancellations.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 29, 2018, 17:06:44
Now the 1522 Paddington to Great Malvern is being held at Oxford waiting for a crew member! As they say, you couldn't make it .

Now terminated at Oxford leaving a two coach 1622 Paddington to Great Malvern service to deal with the 2 cancellations.

Another one booked for a Worcester driver.  Hopeless!  When are the press going to start picking up on this I wonder?

06:53 Foregate Street - Didcot was only 12 late at Oxford but (according to RTT) took ages to get into Didcot, arriving 45 late.

That one had a Cat A SPAD approaching Didcot Parkway and passed a red signal by one coach length.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 29, 2018, 17:13:32
15:22 PAD-GMV now restarted at Oxford 45 late and going as far as Worcester which is something I suppose!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: didcotdean on January 29, 2018, 17:18:31
That one had a Cat A SPAD approaching Didcot Parkway and passed a red signal by one coach length.
That might explain some of the other events around Didcot around 0900 today, although some of the cancellations were for other reasons. For example 2L17 (Oxford to Reading stopper) seems to have missed out Didcot via the avoiding line; everyone who had been waiting for it at 0857 were belatedly advised to change to platform 3 for 2P27 starting from there at 0908.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 29, 2018, 17:23:27
When are the press going to start picking up on this I wonder?
When there was a big meltdown, on Sunday January 7, I emailed the grisly details to the Worcester News. Not interested.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 29, 2018, 17:32:27
When are the press going to start picking up on this I wonder?
When there was a big meltdown, on Sunday January 7, I emailed the grisly details to the Worcester News. Not interested.

I guess when something happens every day in some ways it's less newsworthy - one might expect, taking into account the dire service since Christmas a communication/explanation/apology from the direction of the Invisible Man or one of his acolytes in the GWR bunker.................however we know where GWR is when it comes to attitudes to Customer Service/Communication...............almost as reliable as its trains!  ::)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 29, 2018, 18:04:16
When there was a big meltdown, on Sunday January 7, I emailed the grisly details to the Worcester News. Not interested.

News needs to be new ... there's a clue in the word  ;D


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 29, 2018, 18:05:00
On the day in question, it was News.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 29, 2018, 18:06:24
I guess when something happens every day in some ways it's less newsworthy - one might expect, taking into account the dire service since Christmas a communication/explanation/apology from the direction of the Invisible Man or one of his acolytes in the GWR bunker.................however we know where GWR is when it comes to attitudes to Customer Service/Communication...............almost as reliable as its trains!  ::)

"This apology is composed of 2 words instead of 8" perhaps.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 29, 2018, 18:18:47
15:22 PAD-GMV now restarted at Oxford 45 late and going as far as Worcester which is something I suppose!

There was an available driver travelling on the 15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington who was able to take the 15:22 PAD:GMV forward from Oxford. I've no idea if this was a regular staff movement or just good luck.

Presumably GWR felt they had to do something as there was a perfect storm heading towards platform 4 at Oxford in the form of a two car Turbo... or does that give GWR too much credit?

And apparently - or maybe just rumour - GWR were unable to sort out taxis in the meantime as they hadn't got the necessary authorisation paperwork to hand.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 29, 2018, 19:32:11
Thread locked ... I suspect accidentally, but will check with the moderator team in cue I have missed something!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on January 29, 2018, 21:35:33
Ah, you see, all Cotswold trains discussions have to be fitted with selective door thread locking due to the short platforms tempers on this line.

(Looked like finger error to me. Unlocked from the comfort of a Cotswold HST running to time with a full complement of staff!)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 29, 2018, 22:47:05
Another for the record:

Quote
19:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:52 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford.
This is due to a shortage of train managers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 30, 2018, 08:55:47
Quote
07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 has been cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.

A nice last minute one this so I hadn't time to try and catch the 05:28 Hereford to Paddington service. Instead it was 06:53 Worcester Foregate Street to Didcot Parkway which was running 20 minutes late due to a broken down train.

My cumulative GWR delays for January are running at over six hours now.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 30, 2018, 10:10:07
Something odd happened to the 05:28 from Hereford this morning - it was started from Great Malvern. RTT says
Quote
due to the signalbox not being open (OL).

The empty stock set off from St Philip's Marsh at 01:52, routed via Swindon and Cheltenham. It was 10 late at Norton Junction, but 58 late at Shrub Hill, and arrived at Malvern Wells at 05:25. By which time it made more sense to start it from Great Malvern (at 05:59).

Starting at 01:52 sounds like it's going to be a peculiar shift for the driver.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 31, 2018, 08:15:05
JourneyCheck is reporting
Quote
05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:27 will be started from Great Malvern.
This is due to train crew being delayed.
Last Updated:31/01/2018 04:56

RTT's version is
Quote
This service was cancelled between Hereford and Great Malvern due to a planning error (TI).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jmc85 on January 31, 2018, 08:19:37
Yes, I saw that too and it made me smile - never seen them admitting to a planning error before!

I'm off to the GWR customer panel next Tuesday - will be interesting to see what they say about our line


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 01, 2018, 08:42:52
Welcome to February.

The 05:47 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street was cancelled due to shortage of train crew but some slightly better news for the return running, albeit not for Cotswold Line passengers

Quote
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 02, 2018, 02:46:45
And the rest of Thursday February 1 (all explanations are from RTT).

04:47 Hereford - Paddington : 33 late into Paddington.

05:14 Oxford - Foregate St : departed 30 late; cancelled WOS-WOF "due to a problem with the train".

05:28 Hereford - Paddington : departed 13 late after ECS arrived late; 17 late into Paddington.

06:42 Hereford - Paddington : 13 late into Paddington.

06:52 Paddington - Great Malvern : canc'd WOS-GMV "due to an unknown reason". 14 late at WOS.

06:53 Foregate Dt - Didcot : canc'd WOF-WOS and OXF-DID "due to a problem with the train". 16 late at Oxford.

07:10 Moreton - Paddington : 13 late into Paddington.

08:25 Foregate St - Paddington : canc'd WOF - Reading "due to an issue with the train crew".

09:21 Paddington - Foregate St : canc'd WOS-WOF "due to a problem with the train".

09:54 Great Malvern - Paddington : canc'd GMV-WOS due to "late arrival of inbound service". 32 late at WOS.

12:05 Foregate St - Paddington : canc'd WOF-WOS due to "late arrival of inbound service".

15:22 Shrub Hill - Paddington : 14 late into Paddington.

17:52 Paddington - Shrub Hill : departed 12 late; 28 late at Shrub Hill.

18:22 Paddington - Hereford : 32 late at Hereford after losing path west of Malvern.

20:22 Paddington - Great Malvern : 14 late at Great Malvern.





Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 02, 2018, 08:48:22
Friday 2 February:

Quote
05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:27 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford but will call additionally at Didcot Parkway.
It has been previously delayed, is being further delayed between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading and is now expected to be 66 minutes late.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.

Leaving the short-formed 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington service and two coach 06:53 Worcester Foregate Street to Didcot Parkway halts train (which started from WOS) to pick up those the 05:28 missed.

And I've just noticed that the 08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington service "will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a problem currently under investigation." (edit to change "delayed" to "terminated"!)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jmc85 on February 02, 2018, 08:51:24
Bloody pain - I couldn't be bothered so caught the Cathedrals Express (0835 from Charlbury) - missed a meeting but preferred that to sardine conditions


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 02, 2018, 10:37:52
RTT: 06:52 Paddington - Great Malvern
Quote
was cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and Great Malvern due to unknown cause (R8).

JourneyCheck:
Quote
09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Last Updated:02/02/2018 08:31


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 02, 2018, 10:41:46
The divergence between the public timetable service and reality on the route has become a disgrace.  I can't understand why the press haven't picked-up on the way  passengers are being treated by "GWR"; it should surely be headline news.  You'd think those at the top responsible for this omnishambles would, if they had any honour and self-respect, resign.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jmc85 on February 02, 2018, 10:44:14
Or at least offer to resign - Lord Bates style

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42897401


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ellendune on February 02, 2018, 18:07:31
The divergence between the public timetable service and reality on the route has become a disgrace.  I can't understand why the press haven't picked-up on the way  passengers are being treated by "GWR"; it should surely be headline news.  You'd think those at the top responsible for this omnishambles would, if they had any honour and self-respect, resign.

I am not entirely sure who's fault it all is.  GWR obviously have their part of the blame but it could include any or all of the following points that I have heard mentioned:

  • delays in electrification that meant that rolling stock changeover including staff training was compressed into too short a timescale
  • delays in new trains meaning that rolling stock changeover including staff training was compressed into too short a timescale
  • repeated failure of infrastructure due to either lack of maintenance poor procurement decisions in the past or disturbance by crossrail works
  • new trains not working out of the box like they were supposed to
  • just trying to do too much on the line at once.
  • too short a franchise (extension) to allow GWR invest in staff.
  • DfT negotiating the price down so much that GWR had to cut costs.
  • insufficient human resources available to train enough new staff.
  • alienation between staff and management leading to excessive staff turnover.

I am not sure that senior managers falling on their swords always achieves very much unless it was that individual that autocratically controlled the organisation (or failed to when it needed it). 

There is a good reason why DfT have been extending the franchise, because the experience of WCML upgrade was that the such franchises are toxic to the franchise company. 


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 03, 2018, 09:30:12
The divergence between the public timetable service and reality on the route has become a disgrace.  I can't understand why the press haven't picked-up on the way  passengers are being treated by "GWR"; it should surely be headline news.  You'd think those at the top responsible for this omnishambles would, if they had any honour and self-respect, resign.

I am not entirely sure who's fault it all is.  GWR obviously have their part of the blame but it could include any or all of the following points that I have heard mentioned:

  • delays in electrification that meant that rolling stock changeover including staff training was compressed into too short a timescale
  • delays in new trains meaning that rolling stock changeover including staff training was compressed into too short a timescale
  • repeated failure of infrastructure due to either lack of maintenance poor procurement decisions in the past or disturbance by crossrail works
  • new trains not working out of the box like they were supposed to
  • just trying to do too much on the line at once.
  • too short a franchise (extension) to allow GWR invest in staff.
  • DfT negotiating the price down so much that GWR had to cut costs.
  • insufficient human resources available to train enough new staff.
  • alienation between staff and management leading to excessive staff turnover.

I am not sure that senior managers falling on their swords always achieves very much unless it was that individual that autocratically controlled the organisation (or failed to when it needed it). 

There is a good reason why DfT have been extending the franchise, because the experience of WCML upgrade was that the such franchises are toxic to the franchise company. 


The enormous point that you are missing, is that Hopwood is 100% on point and accountable for explaining the situation openly and honestly to his customers and outlining the steps that he is taking to recover the situation with whichever stakeholders are necessary.

The very fact that you are having to speculate via the list above, demonstrates that he and his organisation are totally failing in this most basic of leadership functions - effective communication.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ellendune on February 03, 2018, 10:41:23
The enormous point that you are missing, is that Hopwood is 100% on point and accountable for explaining the situation openly and honestly to his customers and outlining the steps that he is taking to recover the situation with whichever stakeholders are necessary.

The very fact that you are having to speculate via the list above, demonstrates that he and his organisation are totally failing in this most basic of leadership functions - effective communication.

I am not even sure I can blame that on him or even GWR as there seems to be an agreement in the railway industry not to pass blame about. Presumably this is because the various parties have to work together somehow.  However, the lack of transparency seems to be the result. It is not personal it is systemic in the railway industry. 

I don't think the resignation of an MD will change that. 


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 03, 2018, 11:16:44
The problem on the Cotswold Line at the moment is that there is no sign of "working together" or even "working solo". The service has been terrible since the end of December and remains terrible. GWR have shown no sign of acknowledging this, let alone doing something, anything, to make it better. This thread is therapeutic but it feels like howling into a void.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 03, 2018, 11:44:55
The enormous point that you are missing, is that Hopwood is 100% on point and accountable for explaining the situation openly and honestly to his customers and outlining the steps that he is taking to recover the situation with whichever stakeholders are necessary.

The very fact that you are having to speculate via the list above, demonstrates that he and his organisation are totally failing in this most basic of leadership functions - effective communication.

I am not even sure I can blame that on him or even GWR as there seems to be an agreement in the railway industry not to pass blame about. Presumably this is because the various parties have to work together somehow.  However, the lack of transparency seems to be the result. It is not personal it is systemic in the railway industry. 

I don't think the resignation of an MD will change that. 

I'm sorry but the suggestion that the Managing Director of an organisation is not ultimately accountable for communication with its customers is ridiculous.

 It's not a question of "blame", it's keeping people informed.....people who spend thousands of £ both directly & indirectly to make his business profitable, and to subsidise his enormous salary which right now he seems to be struggling to justify.

At best GWR customers are being treated with indifference, at worst contempt. This is indicative of deep seated organisational culture and leadership issues.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 03, 2018, 13:18:34
Quote
10:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.

and the outward running terminated at Oxford.

And a late one just announced:

Quote
12:22 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 14:00 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.
Last Updated:03/02/2018 12:45

with the return 14:50 also starting from Oxford.

(and later edit to add further crop)

Quote
15:20 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:01 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.

Quote
16:35 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:26 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. First class not available.

Quote
17:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 19:44 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.

Quote
18:35 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:25 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.

Quote
20:04 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 22:31 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.

Whatever problems GWR have, there is no sign of any improvement. Customers are paying for a service. GWR are failing to provide it. Worse, there is no acknowledgement, explanation, or apology.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: didcotdean on February 03, 2018, 20:31:35
I intend if possible to ask some questions regarding the disintegration of the Cotswold Line services at the next GWR Customer Panel meeting, which is being held in Didcot on Tuesday. I am by no means a regular user of this part of GWR, but I can say I am currently put off using it at all through the large and regular number of cancellations for various reasons.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 04, 2018, 17:14:41
Quote
Facilities on the 14:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:05.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5 from Oxford.
Last Updated:04/02/2018 17:03

Facilities on the 18:42 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 21:11.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5 to Oxford.
Last Updated:04/02/2018 17:03


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 05, 2018, 15:25:06
Things seem to be running a bit more to plan today.  This has popped up, though
 
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13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault with barriers at a level crossing.
Last Updated:05/02/2018 13:52

There's always something  >:(


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 05, 2018, 16:48:23
Wrote too soon
Quote
16:21 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26
16:21 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 has been cancelled.
This is due to train crew being delayed.
Last Updated:05/02/2018 16:37


Quote
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 has been delayed at Worcester Foregate Street and is now 19 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on a train in front of this one.

Quote
15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59
15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59 will no longer call at Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh and Charlbury.
It has been previously delayed, has been further delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 24 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 05, 2018, 18:15:05
The return working of the 16:21 from Paddington to Great Malvern had been cancelled, but now
Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Reading.
This is due to a safety inspection on a train.
Last Updated:05/02/2018 17:30


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 06, 2018, 13:26:16
The return working of the 16:21 from Paddington to Great Malvern had been cancelled, but now
Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Reading.
This is due to a safety inspection on a train.
Last Updated:05/02/2018 17:30

"Reinstated" ??  Not for a passenger from, say, Evesham, it's not been reinstated.

I suppose it's entertaining to see what excuses are given for these non-performances.  The outward train cancelled because of traincrew being delayed but the return not running for most of it's journey because of a safety inspection.  Very creative.  Straight from la-la land.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: didcotdean on February 06, 2018, 21:27:51
Well I did raise at the GWR Customer Panel Meeting this evening the issue of the reliability (or lack of it) currently on the Cotswolds in particular the amount of total cancellations and short running arising from staff or train availability.

The core reason given is not much more than what has already been discussed here, viz training of staff for IETs particularly at Worcester. As the staff are trained the issue should be progressively reduced and gone within 2 months or so. Etc Etc.

I did strongly advise that customers deserved some high level public explanation and reassurance, and just leaving the cancellations to pile up day after day without one builds up severe reputational damage.  Whether this advice is taken up remains to be seen.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 06, 2018, 21:36:45
Thank you for trying.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 06, 2018, 22:14:41
The song remains the same ...

 
Quote
20:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:57
20:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:57 has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 17 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
Last Updated:06/02/2018 20:41

Quote
20:59 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 23:36
20:59 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 23:36 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.
Last Updated:06/02/2018 22:03

The line has become more an excuse, than a public service


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 06, 2018, 22:17:41
Today : 15:52 Paddington - Moreton 16 late.

16:21 Paddington - Great Malvern operated as 3-car instead of 5.

17:22 Paddington - Hereford 25 late at Hereford.

18:22 Paddington - Hereford 22 late at Hereford.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: didcotdean on February 06, 2018, 23:07:29
Should have mentioned above that looking at the map of where the Customer Panel members live, that there are relatively few on it along the Cotswold Line. Three around the Hereford and Worcester area, but only one between Worcester and Oxford.

Apply here :) https://www.gwr.com/help-and-support/customer-panel




Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on February 07, 2018, 00:43:30
The return working of the 16:21 from Paddington to Great Malvern had been cancelled, but now
Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Reading.
This is due to a safety inspection on a train.
Last Updated:05/02/2018 17:30

"Reinstated" ??  Not for a passenger from, say, Evesham, it's not been reinstated.

I suppose it's entertaining to see what excuses are given for these non-performances.  The outward train cancelled because of traincrew being delayed but the return not running for most of it's journey because of a safety inspection.  Very creative.  Straight from la-la land.

I quite like the words "on a train" as opposed to "on this train". The way it's written doesn't even mean the train that was due to be used on that service. It could be a train in Cornwall for all I know that was never intended to work the service. Brilliant use of the English language.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on February 07, 2018, 07:43:47
I quite like the words "on a train" as opposed to "on this train". The way it's written doesn't even mean the train that was due to be used on that service.

Wording is standard and can apply to a different train ... for example if something is pulled up on a running line for a safety check and train(s) behind can't get through / have to turn back short.   Agreed it remains a cancellation as far as stations not served are concerned.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: phile on February 07, 2018, 09:38:21
I quite like the words "on a train" as opposed to "on this train". The way it's written doesn't even mean the train that was due to be used on that service.

Wording is standard and can apply to a different train ... for example if something is pulled up on a running line for a safety check and train(s) behind can't get through / have to turn back short.   Agreed it remains a cancellation as far as stations not served are concerned.

Journey Checks regularly say "due to xxxx on this train" when it is not "this" train but a reaction of an incident on another train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on February 07, 2018, 20:45:31
Thanks for the detailed response.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 08, 2018, 12:18:17
This one is probably outside the direct control of "GWR" but that doesn't help the delayed travellers

Quote
10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47
10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 will no longer call at Slough.
It has been delayed between London Paddington and Reading and is now 55 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
Last Updated:08/02/2018 11:55

Quote
  11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44
11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 is being delayed between London Paddington and Slough and is now expected to be 25 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.
Last Updated:08/02/2018 11:54


1W01 - 11 late leaving Paddington, 53 late passing Acton West


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 09, 2018, 11:23:04
Well I did raise at the GWR Customer Panel Meeting this evening the issue of the reliability (or lack of it) currently on the Cotswolds in particular the amount of total cancellations and short running arising from staff or train availability.

The core reason given is not much more than what has already been discussed here, viz training of staff for IETs particularly at Worcester. As the staff are trained the issue should be progressively reduced and gone within 2 months or so. Etc Etc.

I did strongly advise that customers deserved some high level public explanation and reassurance, and just leaving the cancellations to pile up day after day without one builds up severe reputational damage.  Whether this advice is taken up remains to be seen.

I hesitate to say this, for fear of tempting the fates, but I do think that your raising of this subject has had the desired effect : there have been no significant cancellations on Wednesday and Thursday of this week. OK, on Wednesday the 19:42 Great Malvern - Paddington was cancelled after Reading, but there's alternatives once you've got to Reading. And some late running, as discussed above.

Thank you!




Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 10, 2018, 13:59:25
Didn't tempt the fates for Friday, but today, Saturday, is another matter:

The 12:22 Paddington - Moreton and 14:50 return was cancelled at one stage, but now
Quote
12:22 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 14:00 will be reinstated.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8. First class reduced. There are no reservations on this service.

14:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 16:29 will be reinstated.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8. First class reduced. There are no reservations on this service.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 10, 2018, 15:10:49
Cotswold Line travellers might be interested in this public meeting in Charlbury on 8th February, organised by the local MP: http://www.charlbury.info/events/5226

I was unable to attend this public meeting but would be interested to hear details of what was discussed - assuming it's appropriate for wider circulation.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 10, 2018, 16:25:36
This looks like it might mushroom:

Quote
Cancellations to services at Worcester Shrub Hill
Due to a points failure at Worcester Shrub Hill all lines are blocked.
Train services running through this station may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 18:00 10/02.
Customer Advice
Due to a points failure just to the London/Cheltenham Spa side of Worcester Shrub Hill station, no trains are able to run between Worcester Shrub Hill and Evesham/Cheltenham Spa

So far:

Quote
13:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:04 will be terminated at Worcester Foregate Street.
It will no longer call at Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
It is being delayed at Evesham and is now expected to be 35 minutes late.
This is due to a points failure.

Quote
14:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:00 will be delayed at Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a points failure.

Quote
14:35 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 17:26 is being delayed between Worcester Shrub Hill and Pershore.
This is due to a points failure.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 11, 2018, 02:42:10
The points round here are all very mechanical - and don't usually go wrong.

13:22 Paddington - Great Malvern arrived Shrub Hill 42 late.

14:22 Paddington - Great Malvern arrived Shrub Hill 28 late; cancelled there.

14:35 Great Malvern - Paddington 71 late.

14:50 Great Malvern - Weymouth (OK, not the Cotswold line) cancelled at Shrub Hill.

15:13 Hereford - Paddington 41 late.

16:57 Foregate Street - Paddington started from Shrub Hill and ran to time.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 11, 2018, 15:46:00
And today:

07:59 Paddington - Great Malvern cancelled after Shrub Hill "owing to a problem with the brakes" (RTT). 25 late at Shrub Hill.

08:39 Shrub Hill - Paddington 28 late - delayed at Charlbury by the above.

11:33 Great Malvern - Paddington started from Shrub Hill.

Quote
15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:07
Facilities on the 15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:07.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.
Last Updated:11/02/2018 10:07

18:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 21:02 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.
Last Updated:11/02/2018 10:06

18:30 Hereford to London Paddington due 22:11 will be terminated at Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train managers.
Last Updated:11/02/2018 11:09


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 12, 2018, 04:50:56
Quote
07:10 Moreton-In-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5 from Oxford.
Last Updated:12/02/2018 04:42


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 12, 2018, 07:20:49
Quote
07:10 Moreton-In-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5 from Oxford.
Last Updated:12/02/2018 04:42

And that's misleading as it should be an eight coach HST but has been replaced by a Turbo for the last 21 days.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 12, 2018, 08:30:02
Quote
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

as was the outward 05:47 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street. Curiously, Realtime Trains gave the reason for this cancellation as being "due to the train being swapped (YU)".


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 12, 2018, 09:17:45
Quote
09:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:12/02/2018 09:07

12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:12/02/2018 09:07

From the time of these posts, a last-minute change.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 12, 2018, 12:33:55
They're being drip fed today:

Quote
14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Edit to add that the following 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern is running with just three coaches. Going to be a cosy one.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on February 12, 2018, 12:48:43
Quote
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

as was the outward 05:47 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street. Curiously, Realtime Trains gave the reason for this cancellation as being "due to the train being swapped (YU)".

Both correct it appears, the stock that came out of the depot intended for the 05:47, was instead used for the 05:19 to Swansea, as the stock for this possibly had no driver.

Didn't do too much good though as it appears it encountered problems with long waits at Chippenham, Bath & Bristol forcing it to curtail at Cardiff 93 late


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 12, 2018, 17:21:11
Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It is being delayed at Reading and is now expected to be 26 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
Last Updated:12/02/2018 17:18


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 12, 2018, 17:33:20
Quote
17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:59
17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:12/02/2018 11:59

What a way to start the week!  You might say that BR was wasteful, by booking spare turns for traincrew at depots, so that in the event of something going wrong there was at least a margin of cover.

But what's worse? A planned amount of waste of staff time, or a service that keeps falling over because there aren't enough traincrew to cope?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 12, 2018, 17:34:52
And ...


Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
Last Updated:12/02/2018 17:18


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on February 12, 2018, 22:49:09
If it wasn't so annoying and pathetic it would be funny.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 13, 2018, 07:38:12
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

.......and the 0825 return trip cancelled


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on February 13, 2018, 09:20:27
The return trip is the important one given it’s half term.  Hundreds more inconvenienced people to add to the list since the service collapsed from the new year onwards.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IanL on February 13, 2018, 09:37:02
The return trip is the important one given it’s half term.  Hundreds more inconvenienced people to add to the list since the service collapsed from the new year onwards.

Agreed, this is the first off peak train in the morning towards London, so lots of families going to the big smoke for the day.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 13, 2018, 11:34:31
And here come some more:

Quote
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

and now a change of mind:

Quote
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at London Paddington, Slough and Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 13, 2018, 17:33:52
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58


Facilities on the 15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5.


................and the return 1834...........isn't this supposed to be an HST?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 13, 2018, 18:19:23
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58


Facilities on the 15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5.


................and the return 1834...........isn't this supposed to be an HST?

This is a relatively new service (filling a long-standing gap between 14:22 and 15:49 from Paddington) and was originally a Class 180 before becoming an IET in mid-January (with a Turbo substitution inbetween).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 13, 2018, 18:40:45
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58


Facilities on the 15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5.


................and the return 1834...........isn't this supposed to be an HST?

This is a relatively new service (filling a long-standing gap between 14:22 and 15:49 from Paddington) and was originally a Class 180 before becoming an IET in mid-January (with a Turbo substitution inbetween).

Blimey. Certainly wouldn't fancy the best part of 3 hours on a Turbo.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 14, 2018, 07:26:00
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

.......and the 0825 return trip cancelled

Same again today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 14, 2018, 08:17:24
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

.......and the 0825 return trip cancelled

Same again today.

Ah, but there will be some sort of road transport cover. For the London bound trip, passengers will be transported to Moreton-in-Marsh where they can squeeze into the 09:50 Turbo to Oxford/London.

But it's unacceptable to cancel the first off-peak London bound service every day during half-term.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 14, 2018, 10:24:46
Quote
But it's unacceptable to cancel the first off-peak London bound service every day during half-term.

It's the complete service level on the Cotswolds Line that's unacceptable


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 14, 2018, 12:54:31
Advance warning for this evening:

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19:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:52 will be terminated at Great Malvern.
It will no longer call at Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 14, 2018, 18:50:41
A few minor irritants this evening:

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16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will no longer call at Slough.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 24 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

Quote
17:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:06 has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 18 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

and

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18:34 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:29 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern and Malvern Link.
This is due to a fault on a train in front of this one.

with the outward 15:22 PAD:GMV being terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. This service ran as a Turbo for the third day running with no first class available.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 15, 2018, 08:17:32
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

.......and the 0825 return trip cancelled

Same again today.

And again today. It does feel like this was a planned cancellation for the whole week rather than an on the day decision.

Also:

Quote
09:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the 10:22 London Paddington to Hereford service.

and

Quote
12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the 12:09 Hereford to London Paddington service.

I'd never have thought of travelling on the following service!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 15, 2018, 09:41:02
"GWR" have obviously given up on even pretending to run the service properly now.  They should acknowledge that they can't do it, and let another operator have a go with the route.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 15, 2018, 09:52:05
"GWR" have obviously given up on even pretending to run the service properly now.  They should acknowledge that they can't do it, and let another operator have a go with the route.

At the very least, if specific services are not going to be resourced on a daily basis this week it should be publicised as such so that regular travellers can consider alternative arrangements.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 15, 2018, 11:42:31
"GWR" have obviously given up on even pretending to run the service properly now.

Hard to argue with the above:

Quote
14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available service.

(later edit)... "the next available service" being three coaches instead of five

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available service.

Quote
17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available service.

Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Timmer on February 15, 2018, 11:48:42
Seriously how can you call this a service? It's pathetic day after day. I feel for people who use this line I really do.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on February 15, 2018, 11:56:31
Mostly services supposed to be covered by the new depot at Worcester again.

Seems to be little appetite from GWR, the DfT, local politicians or the local press to try to do anything about it though.  Perhaps we need a new forum catchphrase of “Oooooos gonna do something about it?”


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 15, 2018, 12:39:15
Seems to be little appetite from... local politicians... to try to do anything about it though.

I can but hope. My letter to Robert Courts MP is on its way.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 15, 2018, 13:40:24
And the filleting of today's "service" continues:

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13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Further Information
Road replacement transport will operate between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford.

This has disappeared from JourneyCheck and, according to Realtime Trains, has recently left Evesham on time.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 16, 2018, 08:13:46
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

.......and the 0825 return trip cancelled

Same again today.

And again today. It does feel like this was a planned cancellation for the whole week rather than an on the day decision.


And same again for the fifth day running.

Also, from earlier:

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04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Didcot Parkway.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford.
It has been delayed at Hereford and is now 50 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Buckham on February 16, 2018, 14:21:50
I'm in London twice next week and live 5 minutes from Honeybourne, but, reading this thread, will clearly have to drive to Warwick Parkway - no one in their right mind would dream of planning to use a Cotswold line service at the moment. Chiltern must be enjoying their increased revenues!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 16, 2018, 14:36:46
I'm in London twice next week and live 5 minutes from Honeybourne, but, reading this thread, will clearly have to drive to Warwick Parkway - no one in their right mind would dream of planning to use a Cotswold line service at the moment. Chiltern must be enjoying their increased revenues!

Likewise - Honeybourne Station is really handy for me.  Unless I actually want to catch a train, that is.  I've taken to driving to Oxford Parkway when I need to go to London.  It's been the sane thing to do on cost grounds ever since Oxford Parkway opened, to be honest.  But the recent disastrous service level makes it even more sane (if that's a thing)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Timmer on February 16, 2018, 15:18:13
I'm sure many others have 'defected' from the North Cotswold line to using Chiltern's service to London, particularly over the past 2-3 months.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on February 16, 2018, 21:45:37
Can’t blame anyone along the Cotswold Line at the moment using Chiltern, though anybody travelling yesterday evening had a horrendous journey following a fatality at Denham.  Rather ironically many hundreds of people for places like Warwick were directed to GWR at Paddington.

Thoughts as ever for the family and friends of the deceased and those on the ground that dealt with the incident.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 17, 2018, 06:41:37
Quote
05:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 08:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.
Last Updated:17/02/2018 05:01


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 18, 2018, 08:40:30
Quote
08:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:57
08:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:57 will be started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Slough.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:18/02/2018 06:29


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 18, 2018, 14:13:16
.....cosy.


13:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:07 will be started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Slough.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 18, 2018, 15:18:31
The 08:42 Paddington - Hereford, started from Reading today, was also formed of 2 coaches instead of 8.

Quote
12:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 16:01
12:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 16:01 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.
Last Updated:18/02/2018 11:20

13:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 17:11
Facilities on the 13:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 17:11.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8.
Last Updated:18/02/2018 10:17

16:28 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:09
Facilities on the 16:28 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:09.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8.
Last Updated:18/02/2018 11:55

16:34 Hereford to London Paddington due 20:09
Facilities on the 16:34 Hereford to London Paddington due 20:09.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.
Last Updated:18/02/2018 11:21


19:42 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Further Information
Replacement road transport will operate between Oxford and Great Malvern. Customers are requested to wait for road transport in the designated road replacement areas. Customers are advised that buses will run later that than the advertised train times due to line of route and additional time required for loading and unloading.
Last Updated:18/02/2018 14:33


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 19, 2018, 08:12:12
A new week:

Quote
04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 has been delayed at Worcester Foregate Street and is now 17 minutes late.

and 40 late at Oxford

Quote
05:11 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 07:27 has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 35 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

Quote
05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:27 has been delayed at Hereford and is now 14 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

as well as the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington being short-formed for the 26th day running.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on February 19, 2018, 12:57:29
Just because the 07:10 used to be an HST, does not mean it is short formed, it has planned to be a turbo for a while now and is now retimed to 07:12


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 19, 2018, 14:42:52
Just because the 07:10 used to be an HST, does not mean it is short formed, it has planned to be a turbo for a while now and is now retimed to 07:12

It's in the January 2018 timetable as one where "Bike reservations are compulsory. First Class accommodation, seat reservations, Wi-Fi and power points are available." That suggests to me that it's an HST/IET. Certainly you cannot reserve seats on a turbo. It does seem a little odd to have a change just a couple of weeks after the timetable came into force. If it's now planned to be a turbo, presumably there's something somewhere on the GWR website to say so?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JayMac on February 19, 2018, 18:56:25
Just because the 07:10 used to be an HST, does not mean it is short formed, it has planned to be a turbo for a while now and is now retimed to 07:12

Someone should tell GWR then. Their timetable and booking engines still show it departing at 0710, offering seat reservations, first class, catering, power sockets...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 19, 2018, 22:17:32
Quote
20:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Further Information
Due to no road transport available, customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.

The next available (and last) train departing Paddington one hour 26 minutes later, and only going as far as Worcester Shrub Hill.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 19, 2018, 22:30:24
Quote
20:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Further Information
Due to no road transport available, customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.

The next available (and last) train departing Paddington one hour 26 minutes later, and only going as far as Worcester Shrub Hill.

So the message from GWR is basically "You're on your own"


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 19, 2018, 23:10:47
Someone should tell GWR then. Their timetable and booking engines still show it departing at 0710, offering seat reservations, first class, catering, power sockets...

Quite. Interestingly on RTT it's shown as "Pathed as Class 165/1 or 166 (Turbo) DMU" but also "Reservations available" and "Buffet service from Reading", and all those can't be true. While I realise that "Pathed as" doesn't necessarily mean "Booked for", the WTT times have indeed been rescheduled - not that working, or published, or any times bear much relation to reality on the Cotswold Line these days. From 5th March onwards, it's once again showing as "Timed for 125mph max: High Speed Train (HST125)".

The point has been made a couple of times on the Charlbury forum that GWR should have instituted an emergency timetable ufn on the Cotswold Line. That way people would know which trains were likely to run, when, and with what level of comfort. If you're (say) heading for Heathrow, it's genuinely useful to know that the 7.10 will have less luggage space than usual, never mind the fact it's usually late.

But there seems to be a curious level of official denial. Whereas the timetable alteration PDFs on the GWR website are happy to warn people that "Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday – The 2351 London Paddington to Reading service will depart 1 minute later than usual and will not call at West Ealing or Hanwell. Please travel on alternative services to complete your journey", retimings and substitutions on the Cotswold Line aren't mentioned at all. The two GWR representatives at the recent public meeting in Charlbury were very apologetic about the level of service - but I've not heard anything similar outside that room. What is going on?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JayMac on February 20, 2018, 00:23:10
What is going on is GWR are treating their customers with utter contempt.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 20, 2018, 01:59:10
Monday's sad story, with a lot of late running, also includes the cancellation of the 15:22 Shrub Hill - Paddington from Oxford onwards. RTT giving the problems as being the doors.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 20, 2018, 08:32:40
Anyway, irrespective of whether it's a short-formation or not, this morning GWR served up just two coaches for the 07:10 (or is it 07:12 - who knows, certainly not JourneyCheck or National Rail Enquiries) Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington train - a service which was an 8 coach HST until mid-January.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on February 20, 2018, 09:37:28
Anyway, irrespective of whether it's a short-formation or not, this morning GWR served up just two coaches for the 07:10 (or is it 07:12 - who knows, certainly not JourneyCheck or National Rail Enquiries) Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington train - a service which was an 8 coach HST until mid-January.

It is supposed to couple up to another 3-car at Oxford to form a 6-car, which isn’t too bad and will obviously not be a long term arrangement as an IET should be working it by the end of the year, after which the timetable will be changed. 

Today’s 2-car coupled to another 2-car to form a 4-car, which isn’t as good!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 20, 2018, 10:31:53
Anyway, irrespective of whether it's a short-formation or not, this morning GWR served up just two coaches for the 07:10 (or is it 07:12 - who knows, certainly not JourneyCheck or National Rail Enquiries) Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington train - a service which was an 8 coach HST until mid-January.

It is supposed to couple up to another 3-car at Oxford to form a 6-car, which isn’t too bad and will obviously not be a long term arrangement as an IET should be working it by the end of the year, after which the timetable will be changed. 



.............I can't see that being too much of a comfort - an IET "should" be working it but that's still the thick end of a year away and there's a bit too much "should" rather than "is" or "will" with GWR these days - in any case I wouldn't say that's short term in this context, particularly with the appalling service folks on the Cotswold line are going through day to day.

8 coach HST to 2 car/supposed to be 6 car Turbo does not represent progress for such a lengthy journey.

Once again, expectations raised and then dashed. It's difficult to avoid the conclusion that GWR regard the Cotswolds line as somewhat irrelevant and its customers expendable in the greater scheme.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 20, 2018, 10:44:49


Quote
It's difficult to avoid the conclusion that GWR regard the Cotswolds line as somewhat irrelevant and its customers expendable in the greater scheme.


Quite.  Hear hear!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 20, 2018, 14:58:22
Quote
21:51 Hereford to London Paddington due 01:17 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to urgent repairs to the track.
Further Information
Alternative road transport currently being sourced.
Last Updated:20/02/2018 13:50


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 20, 2018, 17:25:38
Quote
15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
It has been delayed between London Paddington and Reading and is now 20 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

Quote
21:48 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:15 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Shipton, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore and Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to urgent repairs to the track.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 20, 2018, 17:26:42
Quote
15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It has been delayed between London Paddington and Reading and is now 20 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
Last Updated:20/02/2018 16:58

17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:02 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
Last Updated:20/02/2018 16:58

Facilities on the 17:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:06.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
Last Updated:20/02/2018 16:47

Facilities on the 20:59 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 23:36.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
Last Updated:20/02/2018 16:47

I must have missed the downgrading of the 17:52 to be a Turbo. It's in the pocket timetable as an HST or an IET.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: stuving on February 20, 2018, 17:41:41
Facilities on the 17:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:06.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
Last Updated:20/02/2018 16:47

The displays at Paddington are now showing this:
1W36    PADTON    WORCSSH                17:52    On time
Formed of 4 coaches.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 20, 2018, 17:43:44
I must have missed the downgrading of the 17:52 to be a Turbo. It's in the pocket timetable as an HST or an IET.

It does seem that planned downgradings such as this (and certain other services) are not well publicised if at all. If you know where to look you can find out, but if you are an ordinary passenger you won't find out until you get to the station


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 20, 2018, 17:48:18
Quote
17:38 Moreton-In-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:02
17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:02 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.
Last Updated:20/02/2018 16:58


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 20, 2018, 17:53:27

An even later night for some.......


21:48 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:15 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Shipton, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore and Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to urgent repairs to the track.
Further Information
Replacement road transport will operate between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill. Customers are requested to wait for road transport in the designated road replacement areas. Customers are advised that buses will run later that than the advertised train times due to line of route and additional time required for loading and unloading


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IanL on February 21, 2018, 07:52:56
Since the new year I have been using Oxford Parkway much more frequently rather than walk to Charlbury station, cheaper, more parking, more frequent trains through the day and into the late evening. Last night was such a day and very glad that I did given the reported disruption to the last train back from Paddington.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 21, 2018, 08:24:41
Whilst the source of the problem might be away from the Cotswolds, one of this morning peak services has been taken out:

Quote
04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Didcot Parkway.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 29 minutes late.
This is due to urgent repairs to the railway.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 21, 2018, 08:35:04
The source of the problem isn't too far away - it's at the north end of Oxford station.

And according to RTT the train in question did spend 19 minutes waiting at Shrub Hill, presumably hoping that the track would be repaired, before it was decided to send it round via Swindon.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on February 21, 2018, 22:43:24
http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/16038585.GWR_under_fire_after_day_of_chaos_on_services_to_and_from_Worcester/?ref=twtrec

Made the Press.....you'll note that GWR failed to provide a comment in reply.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Timmer on February 22, 2018, 05:49:00
http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/16038585.GWR_under_fire_after_day_of_chaos_on_services_to_and_from_Worcester/?ref=twtrec

Made the Press.....you'll note that GWR failed to provide a comment in reply.
About time, took long enough.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 22, 2018, 08:25:49
Re 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington

It is supposed to couple up to another 3-car at Oxford to form a 6-car, which isn’t too bad...

And for the last couple of days, the other 3-car unit has not been added at Oxford.

I also notice that first class appears to have been reintroduced on Class 165s in the form of a sticker on the doors and above the end compartment, and antimacassars on the seats. Not quite the same level of comfort one would get on an HST/IET though.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 22, 2018, 10:08:36
Quote
08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.
Last Updated:22/02/2018 09:38

12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.
Last Updated:22/02/2018 09:38

Note the time of the posting of this.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 22, 2018, 11:17:20
Quote
08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.
Last Updated:22/02/2018 09:38

12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train guards.
Last Updated:22/02/2018 09:38

Note the time of the posting of this.

And also note that "GWR" don't regard it as a cancellation, merely a "train service update".  But it is a cancellation, surely, for anyone intending to travel on it from Worcester to Hereford.  This playing with words to make a situation look less bad than it really is does "GWR" no credit.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 22, 2018, 11:45:26
And also note that "GWR" don't regard it as a cancellation, merely a "train service update".  But it is a cancellation, surely, for anyone intending to travel on it from Worcester to Hereford.  This playing with words to make a situation look less bad than it really is does "GWR" no credit.

Ah! That's what it stands for - Get Words Rong.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 22, 2018, 14:13:39
Quote
12:21 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 14:38
12:21 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 14:38 will be terminated at Evesham.
It will no longer call at Pershore and Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:22/02/2018 13:49
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Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 22, 2018, 16:32:37
Quote
15:22 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 17:29 will be started from Evesham.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:22/02/2018 13:49

15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:22/02/2018 14:59

16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:22/02/2018 16:16

19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:32 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:22/02/2018 16:16


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 22, 2018, 17:46:26
Quote

16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Last Updated:22/02/2018 16:16

And with the 15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh being terminated at Oxford, a very long wait for those wanting to get home to the Cotswolds this evening.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 23, 2018, 08:19:50
Quote
06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 will be cancelled.
This is due to the train for this service having broken down.

09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to the train for this service having broken down.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 25, 2018, 22:08:16
Today's 20.15 Great Malvern to Hanborough, and 22.06 Hanborough to Great Malvern, cancelled due to the usual train crew reason.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 26, 2018, 08:08:38
Another week begins:

Quote
06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Additional Information
For more detailed information please contact a member of station staff or make use of the Customer Help Point systems available. Please allow more time for your intended journey.
Customers are advised to use the next available service.

but better news on the return run:

Quote
09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.

Additional Information
Owing to a change in the type of train forming this service we are unable to honour seat reservations that customers may have made for this journey.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 26, 2018, 09:51:55
Quote
07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:15
07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:15 will call additionally at Honeybourne and Pershore.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:26/02/2018 07:51


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on February 26, 2018, 10:37:38
11:01 Oxford to London Paddington due 11:58
11:01 Oxford to London Paddington due 11:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on February 26, 2018, 16:36:12
Quote
14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44
14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 will no longer call at Slough.
It will be starting late from London Paddington and is expected to be 15 minutes late.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:26/02/2018 12:58


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 26, 2018, 17:44:05
Another week begins:

[...] better news on the return run:

Quote
09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Disabled toilet facilities are not available.

Additional Information
Owing to a change in the type of train forming this service we are unable to honour seat reservations that customers may have made for this journey.

Alas, the 09:54 was cancelled between Moreton and Paddington due to a problem with the train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 27, 2018, 08:00:52
Today's goodies:

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04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will no longer call at Didcot Parkway.
It has been delayed at Ledbury and is now 32 minutes late.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.

06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to congestion.

09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ray951 on February 27, 2018, 09:20:22
I believe that the 0652 Paddington to Great Malvern has now been cancelled 3 days in a row. (Friday, Monday and Tuesday). :( :(

I assume the only driver who can drive this train must on holiday or off sick; does anyone know when he/she will be back to work and the train will run? :D


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: BBM on February 27, 2018, 09:49:00
According to RTT, the 0511 from Worcester SH was 72 minutes late into PAD. It looks like it was stuck between Twyford and Maidenhead for about 50 minutes, presumably due to the signalling issue which was mentioned on GWR JourneyCheck.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 27, 2018, 10:08:49
According to RTT, the 0511 from Worcester SH was 72 minutes late into PAD. It looks like it was stuck between Twyford and Maidenhead for about 50 minutes, presumably due to the signalling issue which was mentioned on GWR JourneyCheck.

The 4:47 Hereford to Paddington service which was already 40 late at Oxford also got further delayed and arrived at Paddington 59 minutes late.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 27, 2018, 15:17:56
A few more of varying degrees of inconvenience:

Quote
12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 has been previously delayed but is now 30 minutes late from Oxford.
This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption.

15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:38 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.

15:22 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 17:29 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:27/02/2018 15:12


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: brcw2 on February 27, 2018, 16:25:45
The 1421 from Paddington ground to a halt just past Wolvercote Junction: broken horn means it's now proceeding at caution and will probably terminate at Moreton-in-Marsh.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on February 28, 2018, 08:14:19
And today:

Quote
04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will no longer call at Didcot Parkway.
It has been delayed between Hereford and Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 24 minutes late.
This is due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time.

and left Oxford 42 late after being held at Charlbury to let the 05:47 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street through the single track first.

Quote
07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.

Seems GWR doesn't need assistance from the Beast from the East.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 01, 2018, 08:11:57
Appreciating that the weather may well impact upon today's service, for the record:

Quote
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 was terminated at Evesham.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault on a train in front of this one.

06:53 Worcester Foregate Street to Didcot Parkway due 08:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on March 01, 2018, 08:34:23
Appreciating that the weather may well impact upon today's service, for the record:

It's "statistically correct" to continue to collect the data in extreme circumstances - performance targets are set below 100% for the very reason that allowance needs to be made for extraordinary happenings - such as earthquakes at Evesham and blizzards at Blackwater.   But these "couldn't have guessed that" or "should we spend a billion for one day every 10 years" situations are ones where zero finger pointing is in order if the situation gets resolved in a sensible tie.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 01, 2018, 12:10:36
Services certainly taking a battering today. Watching the down services and thinking about getting home later this afternoon, I've picked up on the following:

Quote
10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at London Paddington, Slough, Reading, Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham and Pershore.
This is due to severe weather.

11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 has been cancelled.
This is due to severe weather.

12:21 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 14:38 will be cancelled.
This is due to severe weather.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 03, 2018, 02:50:58
Well, the snow meant that services on Thursday March 1 and Friday March 2 certainly were taking a battering, as Charles_UK describes.

It might be worth trawling through RTT to establish what actually ran, just as a record of how bad things can be when the snow gets in the way.

And today, Saturday March 3, the whole line is out of action:
Quote
Due to severe weather between Oxford and Hereford all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 23:59 03/03.
Customer Advice
Ticket acceptance has been arranged with CrossCountry, Chiltern Railways, Virgin West Coast and West Midlands Railway for customers travelling between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford. Customers travelling at intermediate stations between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill are advised not to travel, replacement road transport cannot be provided due to the severe weather conditions.
Further Information
An update will follow within the next 5 hours.
Last Updated:03/03/2018 00:10


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 03, 2018, 09:58:21
But things are improving:
Quote
Due to severe weather between Oxford and Hereford all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 12:00 03/03.
Customer Advice
Ticket acceptance has been arranged with CrossCountry, Chiltern Railways, Virgin West Coast and West Midlands Railway for customers travelling between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford. Customers travelling at intermediate stations between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill are advised not to travel, replacement road transport cannot be provided due to the severe weather conditions.
Further Information
An update will follow within the next 5 hours.
Last Updated:03/03/2018 06:41


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 03, 2018, 11:37:09
It might be worth trawling through RTT to establish what actually ran, just as a record of how bad things can be when the snow gets in the way.

From what I can tell, the last down service onto the Cotswold Line was yesterday's (2 March) 09:21 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street. GWR had advised that "due to predicted heavy snow the last London - North Cotswolds train will depart at 14:22" but that service was cancelled later on.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 03, 2018, 12:15:55
Spoke too soon:
Quote
Due to severe weather between Oxford and Hereford all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 16:00 03/03.
Customer Advice
Ticket acceptance has been arranged with CrossCountry, Chiltern Railways, Virgin West Coast and West Midlands Railway for customers travelling between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford. Customers travelling at intermediate stations between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill are advised not to travel, replacement road transport cannot be provided due to the severe weather conditions.
Further Information
An update will follow within the next 5 hours.
Last Updated:03/03/2018 11:42


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IanL on March 04, 2018, 10:53:22
Still no trains either way in Charlbury today (sunday) so three days now, luckily the roads are open.

A few years ago (2010?) when we had bad snow the train kept running while the roads were closed.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 04, 2018, 11:33:42
Still no trains either way in Charlbury today (sunday) so three days now, luckily the roads are open.

A few years ago (2010?) when we had bad snow the train kept running while the roads were closed.

There is planned engineering meaning buses Oxford to Hanborough today, and because sets have been badly displaced there are no Turbos to run the planned service from Hanborough onwards (and no easy way of getting them there due to the engineering blockade), so a HST shuttle service is running instead between Moreton and Worcester using the one train rather than the two that would otherwise have been needed.  I understand some direct Oxford to Moreton buses are running to compensate.

In addition, the line between Colwall and Ledbury is still closed due to snow drifts.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IanL on March 04, 2018, 16:47:01
Unfortunately with no trains  towards Oxford the very limited buses are running to Hanborough, thence another bus to Oxford. Add in the weight restriction on the Charlbury bridge and buses are not a good option due to the long way around on minor roads.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 04, 2018, 18:15:29
I think that’s why direct Oxford to Moreton buses were running for at least some of the day.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 04, 2018, 21:32:26
This is the snowdrift near Ledbury as of this evening.  Must’ve been much worse a couple of days ago.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IanL on March 05, 2018, 07:20:01
And cancellations and delays this morning due to a faulty train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 05, 2018, 08:06:17
And cancellations and delays this morning due to a faulty train.

Quote
06:53 Worcester Foregate Street to Didcot Parkway due 08:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a broken down train.

Of course, it's not clear from this whether these are your common everyday GWR faults or a result of maintenance disruption during the severe weather.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 06, 2018, 10:09:41
Looking back at the RTT records of the days disrupted by snow, there's an oddity on Saturday March 3.

According to JourneyCheck, the whole of the Oxford - Hereford line was closed, certainly until the late afternoon, probably all day.

But according to RTT, the 15:20 from Paddington to Great Malvern ran (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C51659/2018/03/03/advanced (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C51659/2018/03/03/advanced)), as did its return working, the 18:35 back to Paddington (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C51606/2018/03/03/advanced (http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C51606/2018/03/03/advanced)). Neither journey seems to have been delayed that much.

Did this really happen? Or does RTT occasionally get some duff data?



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 06, 2018, 17:20:02
After last week's extreme weather, a sense of normality is returning to the Cotswold Line:

Quote
15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jmc85 on March 06, 2018, 20:13:23
Not sure on the accuracy of the cancellation reason - we left Paddington late - the guard did announce it but didn’t provide an explanation.

We eventually rolled into Oxford a bit late, and as per normal, any sign of late running on this train results in it being dumped so we can await the all stations stopper.

Thankfully we were treated to a shiny new train (what is the 1622 exPAD) - first time I’ve been on one on that particular journey. The annoucements were automated for short platforms, but didn’t state which coach to be in, only that the doors at one end of my carriage (B) (between A&B) weren’t opening at Hanborough, Combe or Finstock - not a multiple announcement, just once per stop) - so what, do they open the doors in the middle? All the regulars for hanborough were loaded at the front on departure from Oxford only to have to trudge through a train of standing passengers to get off.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 07, 2018, 15:55:13
Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:32 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on March 08, 2018, 23:53:59
A full day without cancellations today, I think? Indeed, if RTT is to be believed, the notorious 16.22 even ran early at some stage... http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C56095/2018/03/08/advanced


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 09, 2018, 03:57:19
Indeed so, though the 19:22 Paddington - Hereford was flagged as being cancelled between Shrub Hill and Hereford at one stage - but was reinstated later.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on March 09, 2018, 07:21:47
A full day without cancellations today, I think? Indeed, if RTT is to be believed, the notorious 16.22 even ran early at some stage... http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C56095/2018/03/08/advanced

..........normal service resumed!

08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 09, 2018, 08:13:32
A full day without cancellations today, I think? Indeed, if RTT is to be believed, the notorious 16.22 even ran early at some stage... http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C56095/2018/03/08/advanced

..........normal service resumed!

08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

The outward service having been terminated at Oxford

Quote
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 14 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 09, 2018, 10:59:26
And making up for yesterday's rogue day:

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Last Updated:09/03/2018 10:48

These services do seem to be regular victims when GWR try to manage their driver shortages.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on March 09, 2018, 12:15:26
And they have the nerve to continue with their misjudged advertising campaign. :-[


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IanL on March 09, 2018, 12:35:40
I don't believe that these new trains exist.  ;)

Since the beginning of January I have been using a fairly random selection of early-mid morning trains into oxford and evening/late evening trains back and haven't yet even seen one. If the train has even run, it has been formed of a HST or turbo.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Timmer on March 09, 2018, 12:45:26
And they have the nerve to continue with their misjudged advertising campaign. :-[
Yup they've restarted their famous five advertising campaign subject of much ridicule on their FB page. You'd think they'd quietly drop it but then again they've probably paid big money to an advertising agency.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on March 09, 2018, 13:42:02
......have you noticed how the "Building a Greater West" propaganda campaign has been quietly dropped?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Timmer on March 09, 2018, 13:55:09
......have you noticed how the "Building a Greater West" propaganda campaign has been quietly dropped?
That was probably from the previous advertising agency. Whatever happened to using in-house talent? Everything seems to be outsourced these days.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 09, 2018, 13:58:01
I don't believe that these new trains exist.  ;)

Since the beginning of January I have been using a fairly random selection of early-mid morning trains into oxford and evening/late evening trains back and haven't yet even seen one. If the train has even run, it has been formed of a HST or turbo.
Imaginary Elusive Trains...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 10, 2018, 04:03:23
Saturday's cancellations start early:
Quote
05:18 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 08:02 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 03:16

08:43 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 03:18

17:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 19:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 03:19

20:04 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 22:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 03:20


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 10, 2018, 15:37:13
...but things got worse as a result of the derailment that's discussed in another topic:
Quote
13:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:04
Facilities on the 13:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:04.
This is due to a derailment within the depot.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 13:08

Facilities on the 14:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:00.
This is due to a derailment within the depot.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 13:09

Facilities on the 16:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 19:45.
This is due to a derailment within the depot.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 14:59

Facilities on the 16:35 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:26.
This is due to a derailment within the depot.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. There are no reservations on this service.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 07:38

Facilities on the 17:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 20:27.
This is due to a derailment within the depot.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 08:09

Facilities on the 20:20 Hereford to London Paddington due 23:51.
This is due to a derailment within the depot.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.
Last Updated:10/03/2018 14:59


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Timmer on March 10, 2018, 15:47:11
I know it’s only a small crumb of comfort but the 16.22 to Hereford and 20.20 return were originally down as two coaches so a slight improvement it’s now three.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 11, 2018, 08:58:49
And Sunday March 11:

Quote
08:00 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:54 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:11/03/2018 05:30

11:14 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:07 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:11/03/2018 06:55

14:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 17:56 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Additional Information
Customers should use the next available service to Worcester Foregate Street and change there for connections to Hereford.
Last Updated:11/03/2018 08:09

18:30 Hereford to London Paddington due 22:13 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:11/03/2018 07:33

19:42 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:11/03/2018 07:41


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 11, 2018, 14:00:23
plus an odd couple of extras:

Quote
14:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:05
14:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:05 will no longer call at Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Additional Information
Customers should use the 16.28 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington service which calls at Kingham at 17.20, Charlbury 17.31 and Hanborough 17.41.
Last Updated:11/03/2018 12:38

which would be all very well except that

Quote
16:28 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:04
16:28 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:04 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Didcot Parkway, Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Further Information
Passengers are requested to utilise the next available service.
Last Updated:11/03/2018 13:41

I can't see the logic of cutting out some stops, on a train that isn't (yet) running late, on account of a shortage of drivers.

And I think that the gap in the London-bound timetable at Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough (where it's four hours, from 15:36 to 19:38) isn't going to be popular.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 11, 2018, 14:26:34
I can't see the logic of cutting out some stops, on a train that isn't (yet) running late, on account of a shortage of drivers.

Driver needed back at Oxford as soon as possible apparently, though I can see no obvious reason why that should need to be the case!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 11, 2018, 15:19:49
A bit later...

The 16:28 has been cancelled in its entirety and the message about the 14:32 from Hereford has been changed to

Quote
14:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:05 will no longer call at Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Additional Information
Customers for Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough should circulate via Oxford.
Last Updated:11/03/2018 14:39

... though at this time on a Sunday its the passengers from Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough that you need to worry about.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on March 11, 2018, 16:52:35
They've reinstated one of the Cardiff-London trains, probably the busiest post match one of all at 1722 so I'm guessing they must have pinched a driver from elsewhere to run that one?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 11, 2018, 16:54:14
And just to add to the GWR Cotswold Line experience today:

Quote
13:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 17:06 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:11/03/2018 16:19

By my reckoning, that means there will be no direct service from Hanborough to Paddington between 14:42 and 19:38.

Leaving aside the politics of whether the buck stops with GWR, DafT, or Network Rail, passengers deserve a statement explaining what the issues are, why they've happened, what's being done to resolve them and when a near normal service might be expected, and - if necessary - emergency timetables issued so there is a level of service that customers can realistically expect.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 11, 2018, 17:03:37
I can't see the logic of cutting out some stops, on a train that isn't (yet) running late, on account of a shortage of drivers.

Driver needed back at Oxford as soon as possible apparently, though I can see no obvious reason why that should need to be the case!
According to RTT, into Oxford 7 minutes early. I do hope it was worthwhile.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Timmer on March 11, 2018, 17:09:16
Leaving aside the politics of whether the buck stops with GWR, DafT, or Network Rail, passengers deserve a statement explaining what the issues are, why they've happened, what's being done to resolve them and when a near normal service might be expected, and - if necessary - emergency timetables issued so there is a level of service that customers can realistically expect.
I agree, even by GWR standards today has been very poor across the board all the way down to Penzance. I said a few months ago, if they can’t run the current timetable then a new emergency timetable for services at weekends needs to be produced which they can run with spare staff on hand to cover sickness etc.

I cannot see how GWR/Dft can allow this to continue. It’s so unfair on those who have to use the GW network.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on March 11, 2018, 20:00:25
They've reinstated one of the Cardiff-London trains, probably the busiest post match one of all at 1722 so I'm guessing they must have pinched a driver from elsewhere to run that one?

They terminated the 15:51 from Swansea at Cardiff instead of it running through to Paddington at 16:49, it was then used to form the 17:22, so no extra train, just retimed


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 11, 2018, 21:48:36
I can't see the logic of cutting out some stops, on a train that isn't (yet) running late, on account of a shortage of drivers.

Driver needed back at Oxford as soon as possible apparently, though I can see no obvious reason why that should need to be the case!
According to RTT, into Oxford 7 minutes early. I do hope it was worthwhile.

Having done a bit of digging, it was because otherwise the driver would have been over their continuous driving hours had they made the usual stops.  Now, had the train been delayed and arrived late then those hours would of course be broken anyway, but it is different to deliberately roster a driver to break them - hence the removal of stops.

That will of course be of very little consolation to the affected passengers, but at least it makes sense.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 12, 2018, 08:21:38
Quote
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Last Updated:12/03/2018 06:09


08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 12, 2018, 13:54:52
Quote
12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 will be started from Ledbury and terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

And an unusual stock formation for the Cotswold Line:

Quote
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 10 coaches instead of 5 between Worcester Shrub Hill and London Paddington.
Additional Facilities Information
Only the front 5 coaches will be available for customer use.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 12, 2018, 15:50:21
And to complete the hat-trick:

Quote
15:20 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will no longer call at Slough.
It is being delayed at London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

And has now left Paddington 27 late. Is the usual 3 car Turbo short-formation which also has to deal with:

Quote
15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will no longer call at Slough, Hanborough, Charlbury and Kingham.
It will be starting late from London Paddington and is expected to be 15 minutes late.

It's the drip drip effect that grinds you down.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ray951 on March 12, 2018, 16:44:50
Looks like the 15:20 Paddington to Great Malvern is being terminated at Oxford; currently running 23 late.
Sorry I was mistaken the following service has been cancelled from Oxford. Not sure how I delete the post.

Mark that you want to delete it, Ray951, as you have done and one of the admins will tidy up. Sadly, past incidents have meant that members aren't allowed to delete posts.  I won't go into the reasons and methods just in case there are any idiots who would do major damage.   I will give you and others a few hours to see this comment, then delete the post - Graham


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 12, 2018, 17:30:27
Looks like the 15:20 Paddington to Great Malvern is being terminated at Oxford; currently running 23 late.
Sorry I was mistaken the following service has been cancelled from Oxford. Not sure how I delete the post.

Mark that you want to delete it, Ray951, as you have done and one of the admins will tidy up. Sadly, past incidents have meant that members aren't allowed to delete posts.  I won't go into the reasons and methods just in case there are any idiots who would do major damage.   I will give you and others a few hours to see this comment, then delete the post - Graham

Nothing wrong with the message. It was terminated at Oxford! I've gone to get a lift but someone has posted a picture on Twitter say is impossible to get on to the platform at the moment.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: brcw2 on March 12, 2018, 17:40:56
Nothing wrong with the message. It was terminated at Oxford! I've gone to get a lift but someone has posted a picture on Twitter say is impossible to get on to the platform at the moment.

It was a little crowded on the platform - now three train loads of people on the 1725, which unsurprisingly took a little time to load. Going to be interesting for people trying to get to the right door for the shorter platforms with this many people standing.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 13, 2018, 10:49:48
And here come the first of today's offerings:

Quote
14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 will be cancelled.

This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Additional Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.

Last Updated:13/03/2018 10:41


17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 13, 2018, 14:57:09
And here come the first of today's offerings:

Quote
14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 will be cancelled.

This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Additional Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.

The "next available train service" is going to be snug... a two coach Turbo.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on March 13, 2018, 15:23:26
Personally I blame Taplow Green

Quote
This service was cancelled throughout due to an issue with the train crew (TG).

 ;)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 14, 2018, 13:39:00
One of the regular GWR culls today:

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:14/03/2018 13:20

19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on March 14, 2018, 14:38:49
I wonder if GWR may be better off issuing a bulletin each evening letting people know which trains WILL run each day so that people can plan, rather than this daily creeping death?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 14, 2018, 14:44:48
I wonder if GWR may be better off issuing a bulletin each evening letting people know which trains WILL run each day so that people can plan, rather than this daily creeping death?

But that would mean GWR being on top of the situation, knowing what staff they had available where, and being able to make plans in advance. Monday's 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern wasn't terminated at Oxford until 35 minutes after it was supposed to depart.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 15, 2018, 08:08:51
Quote
06:53 Worcester Foregate Street to Didcot Parkway due 08:23 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Shipton, Ascott-under-Wychwood, Charlbury, Finstock, Combe and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Last Updated:15/03/2018 05:26

Quote
09:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Last Updated:15/03/2018 06:00


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 15, 2018, 08:30:35
Quote
09:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Last Updated:15/03/2018 06:00

08:23 update - above services "will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available."


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 15, 2018, 11:10:54
The pain was merely delayed:

Quote
11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Last Updated:15/03/2018 10:54

This is getting beyond a joke now. GWR have either simply given up or don't give a **** for their Cotswold Line customers:

Quote
14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:59 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Last Updated:15/03/2018 12:29

And the 15:22 PAD:GMV which is going to have to pick up those displaced from the cancelled 14:21 is a two car Turbo. Hearing from those who travelled on Tuesday in the same circumstances, it was crush loaded.

Further edit. Thoroughly predictable too:

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:15/03/2018 12:49

and now the 15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh is delayed at Paddington...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on March 15, 2018, 21:07:00
Quote

This is getting beyond a joke now. GWR have either simply given up or don't give a **** for their Cotswold Line customers

I think both apply.  Nobody with half a chance of an alternative would use this "service" nowadays


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 16, 2018, 08:39:35
And here we go again:

Quote
11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:16/03/2018 08:30

[14:38 edit] and as sure as night follows day and bears doing what bears do in woods:

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Last Updated:16/03/2018 14:23

As someone posted on Twitter yesterday, "this is now deliberately provocative and indefensible behaviour by GWR." Very hard to disagree with those sentiments.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 17, 2018, 07:59:40
Saturday March 17:
Quote
12:18 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 14:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:17/03/2018 03:27

13:18 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:04 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:17/03/2018 03:27

14:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 16:38 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:17/03/2018 03:27

16:35 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:37 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:17/03/2018 03:27

17:18 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 19:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:17/03/2018 03:27

20:04 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 22:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:17/03/2018 03:27

It is clearly beyond GWR to operate the timetable as advertised at the moment.

Surely the time has come for some sort of emergency timetable, which they could run.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IanL on March 17, 2018, 12:24:19
Quote from Mark Hopwood in the latest CLPG newsletter:

""and I am happy to say that the 1622 service is now operating as an IET again"


Well if by operating they mean being regularly cancelled more often than running then this might be true!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 17, 2018, 13:28:20
What is the cancellation rate for the 16:22 since the turn of the year?  At a guess I’d say it must be around 60% of the time.  Is there a worse train in the country currently?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: didcotdean on March 17, 2018, 13:54:40
Don't forget that everything is supposed to be sorted by the end of March.

However, I expect to see the Easter Bunny to pop up saying April Fool.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 17, 2018, 15:33:55
What is the cancellation rate for the 16:22 since the turn of the year?  At a guess I’d say it must be around 60% of the time.  Is there a worse train in the country currently?

It's not as bad as that even if it might seem like it. By my reckoning, it's been cancelled (or failed to get beyond Oxford) on 17 out of 54 days. Five of those in the last eight days.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 17, 2018, 15:56:10
Quite a lot better than my initial perception then.  But still absolutely awful!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 17, 2018, 16:28:03
And now a three-hour gap (from 16:18 to 19:18)
Quote
18:18 London Paddington to Hereford due 21:35 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Additional Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.
Last Updated:17/03/2018 14:58


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 17, 2018, 16:30:50
Also, 15:20 PAD-GMV and return at 18:35 are a 2-car Turbo instead of a 3-car one.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 19, 2018, 09:00:44
The weather has wiped out the entire London bound morning peak service:

04:47 HFD:PAD cancelled
05:11 WOS:PAD started from Oxford
05:28 HFD:PAD cancelled
06:42 HFD:PAD cancelled
07:10 MIM:PAD cancelled
08:25 WOF:PAD cancelled
09:50 MIM:PAD will be started from Reading

Seems a little dramatic given yesterday's service seemed to run without too much disruption.

(edit to add 09:50 to list)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IanL on March 19, 2018, 09:08:49
This morning only the two carriage turbo stopping service managed to run.....despite a GWR staff member at Charlbury informing everyone who turned up for this train (as it was the only service running) that there were no trains before 10am....and that the screens and online app were wrong. Lots of people turned around and were halfway back up the hill when the train stopped at Charlbury.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on March 19, 2018, 09:12:58
... the train stopped at Charlbury ...

So that's not a cancellation then  ;D ;D as far as the rail industry stats are concerned!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 19, 2018, 09:48:34
The weather has wiped out the entire London bound morning peak service:

04:47 HFD:PAD cancelled
05:11 WOS:PAD started from Oxford
05:28 HFD:PAD cancelled
06:42 HFD:PAD cancelled
07:10 MIM:PAD cancelled
08:25 WOF:PAD cancelled
09:50 MIM:PAD will be started from Reading

Seems a little dramatic given yesterday's service seemed to run without too much disruption.

(edit to add 09:50 to list)

Yesterday's service (Sunday March 18) had several trains cancelled between Paddington and Reading, but only one train cancelled between Oxford and Worcester (the 14:42 Paddington - Hereford, which started at Shrub Hill).

According to RTT, several of this morning's cancellations are "due to high winds".


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ray951 on March 19, 2018, 12:19:16

Yesterday's service (Sunday March 18) had several trains cancelled between Paddington and Reading, but only one train cancelled between Oxford and Worcester (the 14:42 Paddington - Hereford, which started at Shrub Hill).

According to RTT, several of this morning's cancellations are "due to high winds".

Maybe the high winds were caused by the hot air from this http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=19516.0;topicseen (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=19516.0;topicseen) Rail companies launch "Partnership for Britain’s Prosperity"


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 19, 2018, 18:55:16
The evening is also suffering from the severe weather:
Quote
19:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:52 will be cancelled.
This is due to severe weather.
Last Updated:19/03/2018 18:13

21:48 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to severe weather.
Last Updated:19/03/2018 18:13

The 19:22 is the first train on which off-peak tickets are valid. It forms the first train out of Hereford in the morning, at 04:47.

The 21:48 is the last train to Worcester. It forms the first train out of Shrub Hill in the morning, at 05:11.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 19, 2018, 19:36:34
The evening is also suffering from the severe weather:
Quote

21:48 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to severe weather.
Last Updated:19/03/2018 18:13

The 21:48 is the last train to Worcester. It forms the first train out of Shrub Hill in the morning, at 05:11.


The 21:48 cancellation seems to have disappeared from JourneyCheck now.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 21, 2018, 07:25:12
Quote
04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 22, 2018, 15:04:38
Quote
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to urgent repairs to the track.

Last Updated:22/03/2018 14:59


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on March 22, 2018, 15:06:06
I'm hoping that the 1622 is running tonight....


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 22, 2018, 17:35:32
Quote
Cancellations to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford

Due to urgent repairs to the track between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford all lines are blocked.

Train services running through these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Quote
17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.

18:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 21:33 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.

19:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:52 will be cancelled.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on March 22, 2018, 18:59:18
Thats the first one tomorrow gone then...1922 stables Hereford to form it...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on March 22, 2018, 20:20:27
......At least they have had plenty of time to arrange replacement buses for the later services.........☺


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on March 23, 2018, 05:19:09
Quote
Alterations to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford

Due to urgent repairs to the track between Ledbury and Hereford all lines are closed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day. Train services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford have been suspended. Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford will not be served.

Customer Advice
Great Western Railway services will predominantly start/terminate at Worcester Shrub Hill. Selected GWR services will however work through to Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.

West Midlands Trains services will start/terminate at Ledbury.

Replacement Road Transport (coaches) will operate between Hereford and Worcester Stations calling all stations.

Ticket acceptance has been agreed with the following train operators to help customers complete their journeys via alternative routes:
Arriva Trains Wales are conveying passengers between Hereford and Newport South Wales in both directions until further notice.
CrossCountry are conveying passengers between Birmingham New Street and Reading in both directions until further notice.
Virgin Trains West Coast are conveying passengers between Birmingham New Street and London Euston in both directions until further notice.
West Midlands Railway are conveying passengers between Ledbury and Birmingham New Street in both directions until further notice.

Further Information
An update will follow within the next 2 hours.
Last Updated:23/03/2018 04:02


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on March 23, 2018, 08:05:48
I'm amazed that the tracks need repair with so few trains running over them....................or could it be rust?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: bobm on March 23, 2018, 08:32:02
Rotten wood apparently.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on March 23, 2018, 16:09:23
Update:

Due to urgent repairs to the track between Ledbury and Hereford all lines are closed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 24/03/18.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 23, 2018, 19:59:58
And just the thing for a Friday evening:

Quote
18:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 21:33 will be terminated at Reading.

This is due to a fault on this train.

Which would have been the service my partner would have taken had she not given up using GWR last Autumn having been ground down by the erratic service over the previous two years.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 24, 2018, 10:38:34
The latest data from the Office of Rail and Road suggested there was a level of defections from the Cotswold Line to Chiltern Railways services from Oxford Parkway. This movement is surely going to surge given GWR has effectively given up offering any sort of Saturday service:

Quote
08:43 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:37 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

09:18 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:47 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

10:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:38 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

12:06 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:37 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

17:18 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 19:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

The three hour gap between services late morning/early afternoon is especially unacceptable


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on March 24, 2018, 19:31:22
Getting a bit tired of GWR mucking up our Saturdays, to be honest. For the last two weekends we've tried to go out on the Cotswold Line for the afternoon: to Worcester last weekend, to Oxford this weekend. Both times we've had to cut our trip short due to the train we planned to catch being cancelled - unfortunately, travelling with a nearly-two-year-old rules out catching the later train; a tired, fractious toddler well past his bedtime is not something the rest of the train wants to hear.

To add insult to injury, the cancelled train we wanted to catch today (the 17.18 from Paddington, 18.23 from Oxford, as per above) appears to actually have run in the end. But at the time we caught the 17.23 home, JourneyCheck was still showing it as cancelled. For goodness' sake GWR, a shortage of drivers is one thing, but still showing a train as cancelled after it's actually left Paddington is entirely avoidable.

(Still, Fairhurst Junior does love travelling by train - all the way up the hill into Charlbury this evening he was saying "bye-bye train". I suspect in ten years' time he'll be posting on this board and I'll be trying to work out what his account name is...)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 24, 2018, 23:25:02
Appalling service, especially at weekends.  Though nobody who could hold GWR to any kind of account appears to be giving much of a s**t!

Expect widespread cancellations during the Easter holidays.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 25, 2018, 11:07:31
A curious one today (Sunday March 25):
Quote
08:00 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:54 will no longer call at Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to train crew being delayed.
Last Updated:25/03/2018 10:39

I think what it should say is that the train has been cancelled between Oxford and Shrub Hill. The subsequent train is making extra stops:
Quote
08:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:57 will call additionally at Hanborough and Honeybourne.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
Last Updated:25/03/2018 09:55


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on March 25, 2018, 13:49:25
Quote
19:42 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Last Updated:25/03/2018 13:42


Also the 12:42 to Hereford and return is truncated at Worcester SH


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 26, 2018, 07:54:02
Welcome to a new week:

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04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will call additionally at Honeybourne.
It has been delayed at Worcester Foregate Street and is now 20 minutes late (and 38 late by Oxford).
This is due to the train making extra stops because of service disruption.

05:11 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 07:27 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading.
It will no longer call at Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford and Maidenhead.
It has been previously delayed and is now expected to be 20 minutes late from Reading.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to train crew being delayed.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Class 50 on March 26, 2018, 19:44:39
I too am getting wound up, why have we not got an emergency timetable, if that had been in place in January , at least the line would have not lost droves of passengers , as they would have certainty.
Clearly after 3 months , we now know a full timetable is not possible .


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on March 27, 2018, 21:57:35
I too am getting wound up, why have we not got an emergency timetable, if that had been in place in January , at least the line would have not lost droves of passengers , as they would have certainty.
Clearly after 3 months , we now know a full timetable is not possible .

It's amazing that the Right Honourable Nigel Huddleston, the Right Honourable Geoffrey Clifton Brown etc. haven't raised the issue in the House. The closest they get is the former suggesting that his constituents contribute to the GWR franchise consultation. https://www.nigelhuddleston.com/news/government-launches-consultation-great-western-rail-franchise


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on March 28, 2018, 07:02:56
from the  Oxford Mail (http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/16118181.Calls_to_build_extra_track_for_railway_amid_regular_delays/)

Quote
CALLS to dual the train tracks on the Cotswold Line ahead of thousands of new homes in West Oxfordshire could be put to the Government.

A motion will be put to Oxfordshire County Council today for its leader to urge the Transport Minister to upgrade the line which links Oxford with Long Hanborough, Charlbury and Kingham.

In putting forward the motion county councillor for Charlbury, Liz Leffman, said passenger numbers were declining due to regular delays and cancellations.

With just the one track, any broken down train or delay has a knock-on effect.

She said since Oxford Parkway opened numbers at Charlbury dropped ten per cent.

Nice photo of an Adelante ...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 28, 2018, 08:50:34
Quote
06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be started from Oxford.

Last Updated:28/03/2018 03:26

and a later update:

Quote
09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.

Last Updated:28/03/2018 10:09


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on March 28, 2018, 12:00:20
I too am getting wound up, why have we not got an emergency timetable, if that had been in place in January , at least the line would have not lost droves of passengers , as they would have certainty.
Clearly after 3 months , we now know a full timetable is not possible .

It's amazing that the Right Honourable Nigel Huddleston, the Right Honourable Geoffrey Clifton Brown etc. haven't raised the issue in the House. The closest they get is the former suggesting that his constituents contribute to the GWR franchise consultation. https://www.nigelhuddleston.com/news/government-launches-consultation-great-western-rail-franchise

From a Robert Courts email yesterday -

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I have secured a Westminster Hall debate on “The Future of West Oxfordshire Rail Services (Upgrades to the Cotswold Line)” here in Parliament.  During this debate, I will highlight the points you have raised with me [about the service] and bring them before the Transport Minister, outlining the improvements to rail services on the Cotswold Line that we want to see, and making clear the strength of feeling around this issue.

I am therefore writing to invite you to Parliament to attend this debate, which will take place tomorrow, Wednesday, 28th March [today!] in Westminster Hall from 16:30 – 17:30.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 28, 2018, 14:50:42

From a Robert Courts email yesterday -

Quote
I have secured a Westminster Hall debate on “The Future of West Oxfordshire Rail Services (Upgrades to the Cotswold Line)” here in Parliament.  During this debate, I will highlight the points you have raised with me [about the service] and bring them before the Transport Minister, outlining the improvements to rail services on the Cotswold Line that we want to see, and making clear the strength of feeling around this issue.

I am therefore writing to invite you to Parliament to attend this debate, which will take place tomorrow, Wednesday, 28th March [today!] in Westminster Hall from 16:30 – 17:30.

I received that email too. A pity it was short-notice as it might have been an interesting day out (travelling with Chiltern Railways to be on the safe side). I hope sufficient time is devoted to the immediate problems customers are experiencing rather than focusing solely on longer-term aspirations, desirable as those may be.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 28, 2018, 15:42:33
Forget "The Future of ..." - a better title would have been "The Present of ...".

Meanwhile,
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13:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:41 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It has been previously delayed, will be further delayed at Evesham and is expected to be 20 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train which is now fixed.
Last Updated:28/03/2018 14:53

15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault on this train which is now fixed.
Last Updated:28/03/2018 14:51

17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:28/03/2018 14:24

21:51 Hereford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 22:39 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:28/03/2018 14:24


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jdw.wor on March 28, 2018, 16:02:25
Shouldn’t the last message say “2151 Hereford to Paddington will start from Worcester Shrub Hill. This service will not serve Hereford, Ledbury, Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street”. As it is it can be misunderstood quite easily.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on March 28, 2018, 16:05:41
No, it's the last HST of the day & is probably headed back to SPM from WSH if there is no driver


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 28, 2018, 19:10:17
Shouldn’t the last message say “2151 Hereford to Paddington will start from Worcester Shrub Hill. This service will not serve Hereford, Ledbury, Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street”. As it is it can be misunderstood quite easily.

This service was only scheduled to run between Hereford and Worcester Shrub Hill due to engineering works:

Quote
Planned engineering work will take place between London Paddington and Worcester Shrub Hill, and between Hereford and Worcester Shrub Hill on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, from 21:45, Tuesday 27 March 2018 to 01:00, Friday 30 March 2018.

The 2151 Hereford to London Paddington service will terminate at Worcester Shrub Hill.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jdw.wor on March 28, 2018, 20:12:57
I understand what you say about the engineering works but is there no replacement service of any kind to cover?.... I cannot help feeling it is written in such a way to confuse and avoid providing cover.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on March 28, 2018, 22:19:56
I understand what you say about the engineering works but is there no replacement service of any kind to cover?.... I cannot help feeling it is written in such a way to confuse and avoid providing cover.
Normally the last train towards Oxford and London is the 21:51 from Hereford, into Paddington at 01:17.

This week, it's replaced by

(1)  a train at 21:51 from Hereford to Shrub Hill, arrive 22:39. Cancelled today due to no driver.
(2)  a non-stop bus at 22:50 from Shrub Hill to Oxford, arriving at 00:20.
(3)  a stopping bus at 22:48 from Shrub Hill to Oxford, arriving at 02:03.
(4)  a train at 00:07 from Oxford to Paddington, arriving at 01:17. Also cancelled today due to no driver.

Notice the scheduled -13 minute connection at Oxford between the arrival from Worcester and the departure to London.

Mind you, I can't imagine that this train carries a lot of traffic normally.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 28, 2018, 23:20:04
Notice the scheduled -13 minute connection at Oxford between the arrival from Worcester and the departure to London.

And Shrub Hill to Oxford in 1h 30m, even non-stop with no traffic, is asking an awful lot of a bus!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on March 29, 2018, 05:31:56

04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on March 29, 2018, 09:43:05
And another cancellation as far as Cotswold Line users are concerned:

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06:42 Hereford to London Paddington due 09:46 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford but will call additionally at Cheltenham Spa.
It has been previously delayed, is being further delayed between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading and is now expected to be 68 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

Last Updated:29/03/2018 07:43


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on March 29, 2018, 23:13:19
This evening didn't escape unscathed there was one casualty:
Quote
1W02 1722 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill
This service was cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford due to an issue with the train crew (TG).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on April 04, 2018, 11:45:44
OK, let's try to record what happened over the Easter weekend. The times from Paddington are the normal timetable ones - in practice they were departing at xx:18 or xx:12.

Good Friday was a good day. Admittedly several trains were not scheduled. But:

  • 12:21 Padd'n - Shrub Hill : cancelled from Oxford (no crew)
    This ran empty instead, so as to be able to pick up the return working
  • 21:51 Hereford - Padd'n : cancelled from Reading (no crew)

Easter Saturday was a total disaster on account of a lack of drivers:
  • 05:18 Padd'n - Malvern : cancelled
  • 06:22 Padd'n - Malvern : cancelled after Shrub Hill
  • 07:22 Padd'n - Malvern : cancelled
  • 08:22 Padd'n - Hereford : cancelled
  • 09:22 Padd'n - Foregate St : ran normally
  • 10:22 Padd'n - Hereford : formed of two coaches instead of 8
  • 11:22 Padd'n - Malvern : ran normally
  • 12:22 Padd'n - Moreton : cancelled
  • 13:22 Padd'n - Malvern : cancelled after Shrub Hill
  • 14:22 Padd'n - Malvern : cancelled
  • 15:20 Padd'n - Malvern : ran normally
  • 16:22 Padd'n - Hereford : cancelled
  • 17:22 Padd'n - Foregate St : cancelled
  • 18:22 Padd'n - Hereford : ran normally
  • 19:52 Padd'n - Malvern : ran normally
  • 21:50 Padd'n - Shrub Hill : ran normally
  • 05:54 Malvern - Padd'n : ran normally
  • 06:17 Hereford - Padd'n : ran normally
  • 07:13 Hereford - Padd'n : ran normally
  • 08:43 Malvern - Padd'n : cancelled
  • 09:45 Malvern - Padd'n : started from Shrub Hill
  • 10:45 Malvern - Padd'n : cancelled
  • 12:06 Foregate St - Padd'n : ran normally
  • 12:13 Hereford - Padd'n : cancelled
  • 14:50 Moreton - Padd'n : cancelled
  • 14:35 Malvern - Padd'n : ran normally
  • 15:13 Hereford - Padd'n : 2 coaches instead of 8
  • 16:35 Malvern - Padd'n : cancelled
  • 17:45 Malvern - Padd'n : cancelled
  • 18:35 Malvern - Padd'n : ran normally
  • 20:04 Foregate St - Padd'n : cancelled
  • 20:20 Hereford - Padd'n : cancelled
  • 22:41 Malvern - Evesham : ran normally

These cancellations were posted on Journeycheck at something like 03:30 - but I'd've thought they were known in outline a week in advance.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 04, 2018, 12:30:11
Tuesday 3 April

04:47 Hereford to Paddington

Quote
This service was cancelled throughout due to an issue with the train crew (TG)

The following 05:28 Hereford Paddington was delayed due to making extra stops, departing Oxford 23 late and arriving at Paddington 22 late. There were knock on delays on the next two Oxford bound services.

Realtime Trains has been showing the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington as being an HST this week but it was still a Turbo yesterday and again today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Steve Bray on April 04, 2018, 12:31:33
On Easter Monday, there was one further cancellation; I think it was the 1059 from GMV to PAD, and the previous working from PAD.

I caught the 0954 from GMV to Reading (the first thing I did when I woke up was to sadly look at my phone to see if it was operating). This was my first journey on one of the new trains. Between Oxford and Didcot, the recorded announcements had a mind of their own "We are now approaching Worcester Foregate St". And also the Seat Reservation system wasn't working, so that created some angst.

On leaving Shrub Hill, I was surprised to see 2 HST's stabled in the sidings


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 04, 2018, 17:18:32
Another regular this afternoon:

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15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 20 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train.

Last Updated:04/04/2018 16:50

With the return 17:38 working to be started from Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on April 04, 2018, 17:44:39
Tuesday 3 April

04:47 Hereford to Paddington

Quote
This service was cancelled throughout due to an issue with the train crew (TG)

JourneyCheck reported that this was due to the train crew being delayed. Presumably they're in a taxi from Bristol.

According to RTT, the stock left Hereford at 05:56, running empty by way of the Severn Tunnel to reach Paddington at 09:03.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 04, 2018, 21:41:12
A bit of a random one:

Quote
18:34 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:29 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Honeybourne, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Slough and London Paddington.
It has been delayed at Great Malvern and is now 31 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.

and to compound things, the following service is running about 30 minutes late.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on April 07, 2018, 13:40:33
............Now they're spoiling you!  :D


14:35 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 17:26


14:35 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 17:26 will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled.
Will be formed of 8 coaches instead of 5.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on April 08, 2018, 08:20:58
Yesterday (Saturday April 7) wasn't as bad as Easter Saturday. But not good:
  • 05:18 Padd'n - Malvern cancelled - no driver
  • 12:22 Padd'n - Moreton cancelled - no driver
  • 13:22 Padd'n - Malvern 41 late
  • 17:22 Padd'n- Foregate St cancelled - no driver
  • 08:43 Malvern - Padd'n cancelled - no driver
  • 14:50 Moreton - Padd'n cancelled - no driver
  • 20:04 Foregate St - Padd'n cancelled - no driver
  • 22:41 Malvern - Evesham cancelled after Shrub Hill - disorder


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on April 08, 2018, 08:32:50
Easter Sunday (April 1) was surprisingly good, certainly by comparison with Easter Saturday. Several journeys pulled from the timetable on account of it being Easter Sunday, which may have helped the performance - though I'm not sure where this was publicised (other than on the journey planners). None of what was left was cancelled.

Today (Sunday April 8) is a different story:
  • 08:00 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:54 - shortage of train crew
  • 14:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 17:56 - shortage of train crew
  • 15:42 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 18:06 - shortage of train crew
  • 11:14 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:07 - shortage of train crew
  • 18:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 21:00 - shortage of train crew
  • 18:30 Hereford to London Paddington due 22:13 - shortage of train crew

The last pair of these leaves a three-hour gap towards London in the late afternoon, with nothing out of Worcester between 17:28 and 20:31.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on April 08, 2018, 14:21:50
And a further update:
Quote
14:42 London Paddington to Hereford due 17:56 will be reinstated.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:08/04/2018 10:06

18:30 Hereford to London Paddington due 22:13 will be reinstated.
It will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
[...]
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Last Updated:08/04/2018 09:58

21:42 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:16 will be started from Reading.
[...]
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:08/04/2018 06:04

It's reinstatement Jim, but not as we know it.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 08, 2018, 18:29:17

The last pair of these leaves a three-hour gap towards London in the late afternoon, with nothing out of Worcester between 17:28 and 20:31.

And given the 16:34 Hereford to Paddington doesn't stop at Hanborough, that leaves a four hour gap between 17:41 and 21:33 for anyone wanting to travel from there.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on April 09, 2018, 10:37:49
Evesham Journal reports ...

Mid-Worcestershire MP Nigel Huddleston calls for government intervention over 'significant deterioration' to Great Western Railways train services

http://www.eveshamjournal.co.uk/news/evesham/16128718.MP_calls_for_government_intervention_over___39_significant_deterioration__39__to_train_services/ (http://www.eveshamjournal.co.uk/news/evesham/16128718.MP_calls_for_government_intervention_over___39_significant_deterioration__39__to_train_services/)

About time too.  Who knows if it make any difference?  I suspect not.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: phile on April 09, 2018, 12:46:28
Evesham Journal reports ...

Mid-Worcestershire MP Nigel Huddleston calls for government intervention over 'significant deterioration' to Great Western Railways train services

http://www.eveshamjournal.co.uk/news/evesham/16128718.MP_calls_for_government_intervention_over___39_significant_deterioration__39__to_train_services/ (http://www.eveshamjournal.co.uk/news/evesham/16128718.MP_calls_for_government_intervention_over___39_significant_deterioration__39__to_train_services/)

About time too.  Who knows if it make any difference?  I suspect not.

The reply from GWR was probably a "Cut and Paste" from Customer Services.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on April 09, 2018, 15:02:17
Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5.
Additional Information
This service will be formed of a two coach Turbo train. Owing to this we are unable to honour seat reservations that customers may have made for this journey.
Last Updated:09/04/2018 14:36


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on April 09, 2018, 15:03:59
Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26
Facilities on the 16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5.
Additional Information
This service will be formed of a two coach Turbo train. Owing to this we are unable to honour seat reservations that customers may have made for this journey.
Last Updated:09/04/2018 14:35


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 10, 2018, 17:51:29
Quote
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

Last Updated:10/04/2018 16:28

A very last minute one this, with a full train's worth of passengers being evicted onto the platform at Oxford a few minutes after the scheduled departure time.

The same service was held at Oxford for 18 minutes yesterday waiting for a manager who was travelling on the 15:22 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington service to arrive.

It's hard not to get the impression that GWR have been sending this service out from Paddington knowing there is not a train manager booked to take it beyond Oxford, and hoping they can sort something out in the meantime.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 11, 2018, 01:50:29
Today was due to the TM misreading their diagram and thinking they were picking up the train at Reading at 16:25 and not at Oxford.  ::)  These days there are very rarely any spare crew at Oxford to jump into anyone's shoes.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 11, 2018, 14:33:11
Let's hope there are no problems with the 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern today...

Quote
15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

Additional Information
Following an earlier safety inspection of the track at Moreton-in-Marsh; restrictions have been put in place that currently prevent us from reversing certain types of trains at Moreton-in-Marsh. Rectification works are underway, but due to this issue the 15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh and return 17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington will today terminate and start from Oxford.

Last Updated:11/04/2018 14:58

Modified to add "Additional Information"


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 11, 2018, 15:51:46
Due to condition of the walking route when changing ends on HST’s at Moreton.  Not that that train reaches Moreton very often anyway!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on April 11, 2018, 16:40:59
Alterations to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford


Due to a safety inspection of the track between Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street the line is closed. Disruption is expected until 18:30 11/04.
Train services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford have been suspended. All stations between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford will not be served.
Customer Advice
West Midlands Railway are conveying passengers between Hereford and Birmingham New Street in both directions until further notice.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 11, 2018, 21:15:37
Track found to be out of gauge by the NR measurement train, so some urgent repairs required which could take up to the end of the day.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 12, 2018, 14:28:34
The issues affecting the 15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh service yesterday haven't been resolved:

Quote
15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

Additional Information
Following an earlier safety inspection of the track at Moreton-in-Marsh; restrictions have been put in place that currently prevent us from reversing certain types of trains at Moreton-in-Marsh. Rectification works are underway, but due to this issue the 15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh and return 17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington services will today terminate and start from Oxford. They are also likely to terminate/start from Oxford tomorrow, Friday 13th April 2018.

Last Updated:12/04/2018 14:21


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 13, 2018, 17:56:05
And just the thing for a Friday evening:

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17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Last Updated:13/04/2018 17:38


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on April 13, 2018, 18:52:43
17.52 appears to be a 3-coach Turbo west of Oxford. Currently waiting on Oxford P4 for it to arrive. 16 coaches down to 3 is not going to be pretty.

Edit: Yup... extremely cosy. A pair of lovely Chiltern 168s have just drawn into P3 to taunt us...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on April 13, 2018, 19:09:30
17.52 appears to be a 3-coach Turbo west of Oxford. Currently waiting on Oxford P4 for it to arrive. 16 coaches down to 3 is not going to be pretty.

Edit: Yup... extremely cosy. A pair of lovely Chiltern 168s have just drawn into P3 to taunt us...

GWR don't believe that there are any passengers on their trains:

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21:51 Hereford to London Paddington due 01:18 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Additional Information
Road Transport (minibus) is being sourced to operate between Hereford and Worcester Shrub Hill.
Last Updated:13/04/2018 18:40


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 14, 2018, 10:55:59
Seems to be a much better Saturday than recent ones:

Realtime Trains tells me the 06:17 Hereford to Paddington was "cancelled throughout due to a problem with the train (M8)"

and from JourneyCheck:

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12:18 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 14:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

14:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 16:38 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

So - so far - just a light trimming rather than the wholesale butchering of the day's service.




Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 14, 2018, 10:59:15
GWR don't believe that there are any passengers on their trains:

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21:51 Hereford to London Paddington due 01:18 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Additional Information
Road Transport (minibus) is being sourced to operate between Hereford and Worcester Shrub Hill.
Last Updated:13/04/2018 18:40

To be fair a minibus would be more than adequate in terms of replacement capacity for that train, which is a total waste of an HST.  More than 10 passengers between Hereford and Worcester is rare, maybe up to 20 between Worcester and Evesham, back to single figures to Oxford, and then maybe 30 or 40 on board through to London (a few more revellers on a Friday use it between Oxford and Didcot).

One of many services that will be much better when operated by a 5-car IET.  Or even a Class 153.  ;)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on April 14, 2018, 11:08:42
One of many services that will be much better when operated by a 5-car IET.  Or even a Class 153.  ;)

Until you find what services that same set of carriages operates in its "diagram" early in the day.

It's incredibly difficult to get overall seat occupancy during the day over 30% ... even though there is so much talk of overcrowding!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 14, 2018, 12:47:35
Ah, a little more "trimming" now:

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17:18 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 19:44 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:14/04/2018 12:36

20:04 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 22:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:14/04/2018 12:36

Just what you want to see when you get to Paddington after a nice day out in London.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 14, 2018, 13:53:19
One of many services that will be much better when operated by a 5-car IET.  Or even a Class 153.  ;)

Until you find what services that same set of carriages operates in its "diagram" early in the day.

It's incredibly difficult to get overall seat occupancy during the day over 30% ... even though there is so much talk of overcrowding!

Yes, indeed.  It's an ideal diagram to have as a 10-car up until Worcester as it works the 17:22 PAD-HFD, detach the rear five there to stable for the night, and run it as a 5-car for the rest of the diagram.  Or detach it at Hereford and stable there overnight for one of the morning trains.  There's never any need for more than 5-cars on any of the trains between Worcester and Hereford, even on the busiest trains of the day, but of course operationally it might still make sense to run some as 9-car or 10-cars still.  I await with interest how the Cotswold Line new timetable shapes up.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on April 14, 2018, 18:01:03
The 17:22 PAD-WOF has only operated once in the last seven weeks.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 14, 2018, 19:00:14
And another pair:

from Realtime Trains - 13:18 Paddington to Great Malvern

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This service was cancelled throughout due to an issue with the train crew (TG)

and the return working

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16:35 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:37 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

Last Updated:14/04/2018 13:47

I'm not sure which is preferable - a menu of cancellations announced first thing or the gradual chopping throughout the day. Either way, the services are cancelled.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 16, 2018, 15:23:53
And for the fourth working day running:

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15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.

Last Updated:16/04/2018 15:08

Hopefully not the same reason as last week...

And in case anyone decides to go for the 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern instead, it's just two coaches instead of its long-term three coach short-formation today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 16, 2018, 15:28:23
Hopefully not the same reason as last week...

I bet it is!  Also, the very busy 15:22 PAD-GMV is only a 2-car Turbo, vice a 3-car one (which is a medium term vice 5-car IET anyway!).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 16, 2018, 15:44:21
Hopefully not the same reason as last week...

I bet it is!  Also, the very busy 15:22 PAD-GMV is only a 2-car Turbo, vice a 3-car one (which is a medium term vice 5-car IET anyway!).

In which case a whole week of cancellations beckons. This service is now running the 16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern close in terms of cancellations along the Cotswold Line.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 16, 2018, 17:46:30
Hopefully not the same reason as last week...

I bet it is!  Also, the very busy 15:22 PAD-GMV is only a 2-car Turbo, vice a 3-car one (which is a medium term vice 5-car IET anyway!).

In which case a whole week of cancellations beckons. This service is now running the 16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern close in terms of cancellations along the Cotswold Line.

Just picked up from Twitter:

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...it is likely to be cancelled all week due to a problem currently under investigation. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

If it's still last week's issue, it was that GWR are unable to turn HSTs around at Moreton-in-Marsh. That being the case, is a Turbo substitution possible? GWR have had no problems replacing the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington, 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern and 17:52 Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill HST/IETs with Turbos.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 17, 2018, 07:50:01
Related to this morning's problems already reported in Across the West:

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07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.

[Later edit]

A few residual delays plus:

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09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to urgent repairs to the track earlier today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 17, 2018, 14:35:53
Me again!

Absolutely nothing on JourneyCheck as at 14:35 but the 15:52 PAD:MIM will be terminated at Oxford for the fifth day running, and the preceding 15:22 PAD:GMV which has been running as a long-term three car short-formation will be just two coaches again.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on April 18, 2018, 09:18:35
If it's still last week's issue, it was that GWR are unable to turn HSTs around at Moreton-in-Marsh. That being the case, is a Turbo substitution possible?

It is. Drivers are refusing to change ends on HSTs. NR need to upgrade the path from the off-platform end to the platform before Drivers will change ends ends again. The current 'walkway has been condemned since NR moved a signalling cable.

As turbos fully fit on the platform, they are unaffected.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 18, 2018, 14:46:29
Good news on the 15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh today - it's going to be a five coach IET.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 18, 2018, 16:59:44
Good news on the 15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh today - it's going to be a five coach IET.

Well, it would have been good news except it was cancelled beyond Oxford due to the signalling problems in the Didcot area!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 18, 2018, 20:39:57
The halts train after it was a HST, so they must've swapped trains around.  Rather remarkably the HST on the halts train didn't really lose any time en-route between Oxford and Moreton despite the totally unsuitable platform lengths at many of the stations - mind you the schedule has had a lot of slack put in since the Turbo days.

The performance results have been published for the latest period with a PPM figure 15% lower than the same period last year.  The cancellations/part cancellations figures are a month behind for some reason, but the month up to the 3rd March saw a whopping 9.8% of trains cancelled on the route.  The part cancellation figure was 7.4% - which is for trains that skip stops or terminate early/start short.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 19, 2018, 08:24:59
Quote
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Slough, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 34 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.

08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be started from Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 19, 2018, 18:04:28
Despite speed restrictions in the Didcot area due to the heat, the 15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh seems to have made it down the Cotswold Line for the first time in over a week. It left Oxford 16 late - a delay that is often enough to see it terminated at Oxford - and arrived at MIM 21 late.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jmc85 on April 19, 2018, 18:14:20
It sure did make it - I was very worried as we sat outside Oxford for the announcement of doom - but it never came!!!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 19, 2018, 18:27:41
Yes, no difference to the delays at the same time of day yesterday when it only got to Oxford.  Good that it ran for those on board, not so good for those caught up in additional reactionary delays as a result of running it. Consistency in decision making would be nice.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: eightf48544 on April 20, 2018, 11:29:19
Another thread that goes to show that  a reliable railway would lead to a punctual railway.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on April 20, 2018, 15:42:18
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12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27
12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 will no longer call at Slough.
It has been delayed between Hereford and Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 30 minutes late.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:20/04/2018 14:53


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 20, 2018, 17:37:49
And rather incredibly the 15:52 PAD:MIM has gone beyond Oxford again today, despite being 23 minutes late and then being delayed a further 11 minutes until the 15:14 Hereford to Paddington had cleared the single track. Probably just as well as the 16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern is currently running 29 minutes late (and being terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill) and the  17:22 PAD:HFD has just left Paddington 13 minutes late.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 20, 2018, 17:39:36
I think those following trains running late probably swayed the decision somewhat.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 23, 2018, 08:22:45
After the usual weekend cancellations (on how many Saturdays recently has the 0843 GMV:PAD actually been operated?), back to the working week:

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05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 was terminated at Reading.
This is due to a fault on this train.

08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on April 23, 2018, 08:53:35
Are you aware that you've been granted an audience?

http://www.clpg.org.uk/blog/cotswold-line-service-problems-a-response-from-gwr/

"We will also attend meetings where we are asked, and on that note, I would like to thank you for your invitation to speak at the CLPG's AGM in Moreton-in-Marsh on Saturday, May 12. I would like to do so and am grateful for the opportunity to address members directly".


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on April 23, 2018, 10:56:43
After the usual weekend cancellations (on how many Saturdays recently has the 0843 GMV:PAD actually been operated?), back to the working week:
Two out of the last seven.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on April 23, 2018, 11:27:17
I understand the 1901 from Honeybourne to Paddington (1826 ex WOF) yesterday, Sunday 22.04.2018 was cancelled because of lack of a driver.  A friend intending to return to Banbury (via Oxford) after visiting my daughter in the Vale of Evesham, was advised, on speaking to "GWR" staff whilst she was at Honeybourne waiting for the missing train, to make her own way to Worcester and from there take a service to New Street and on to Banbury that way round.  The cancellation of the train is bad enough, but failing to consider options using Stratford upon Avon or Warwick Parkway when handing-out alternative travel suggestions adds insult to injury.  Stratford is around 20 minutes by road from Honeybourne, and Warwick Parkway probably less than 40 at that time of a Sunday evening.  Fortunately my daughter was able to take her friend to Worcester.  It was hardly convenient.

How does my daughter's friend stand as to compensation for the "service" she didn't receive?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 23, 2018, 14:14:09
Not confirmed yet but the 15:52 PAD:MIM is booked as an HST today and, according to GWR's social media team, "it's likely that this won't go beyond Oxford today".


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JayMac on April 23, 2018, 17:00:49
How does my daughter's friend stand as to compensation for the "service" she didn't receive?

Compensation under the GWR passenger charter is based on the lateness arriving at the ultimate destination.

If that doesn't work out, or the claim is declined for any reason, then the next step is to request compensation by exercising your rights under the Consumer Act 2015.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on April 23, 2018, 17:10:23
Not confirmed yet but the 15:52 PAD:MIM is booked as an HST today and, according to GWR's social media team, "it's likely that this won't go beyond Oxford today".

Confirmed now.........

15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-In-Marsh due 17:26


15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 23, 2018, 18:12:24
Not confirmed yet but the 15:52 PAD:MIM is booked as an HST today and, according to GWR's social media team, "it's likely that this won't go beyond Oxford today".

Confirmed now.........

15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-In-Marsh due 17:26


15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

Cancellation wasn't confirmed until 1608 which is a pretty poor show considering it was inevitable once the HST had been booked. It was, however, 21 minutes late leaving Paddington - late arrival of inbound service due to problems at Swindon? - so chances are it would have been terminated at Oxford anyway.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 23, 2018, 20:53:26
The peak evening service onto the north Cotswold Line over the past few days has been especially ropy. Taking the 15:22 PAD:GMV, 15:52 PAD:MIM, 16:22 PAD:GMV, 17:22 PAD:HFD, 17:52 PAD:WOS, 18:22 PAD:HFD and 19:22 PAD:HFD, over the last four weekdays just five out of twenty eight services have gone onto the Cotswold Line at Wolvercote Junction* within ten minutes of their scheduled time.

* no doubt timings will vary depending on where the "snapshot" is taken - Wolvercote Junction was my choice as the start of the Cotswold Line


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 24, 2018, 09:32:52
Today's 15:52 PAD:MIM update from GWR's social media team:

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it is likely it won't run [beyond Oxford] but it depends on what crew are available closer to the time.

So expect the cancellation beyond Oxford to be announced sometime after 3pm.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on April 24, 2018, 12:13:20
How does my daughter's friend stand as to compensation for the "service" she didn't receive?

Compensation under the GWR passenger charter is based on the lateness arriving at the ultimate destination.

Thanks - I had assumed that might well be the case.  In this instance, however, she was told via the help-point at Honeybourne to make her own way to Shrub Hill.  It happened that my daughter was available to drive her.  But a taxi could have been involved.

Given the bus operation north of Oxford over the weekend, I suspect that even if her journey had proceeded "as planned" the journey to Banbury would have been very lengthy anyway, so the delay minutes may not have been all that numerous.

I really don't understand why she wasn't advised to go to Stratford upon Avon.  I realise that she could have chosen this route for herself and avoided all the hassle that using "GWR" seems to entail these days. 


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on April 24, 2018, 15:57:34
Today's 15:52 PAD:MIM update from GWR's social media team:

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it is likely it won't run [beyond Oxford] but it depends on what crew are available closer to the time.

So expect the cancellation beyond Oxford to be announced sometime after 3pm.

Announced at 15:12 by the look of it.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: drenahmeti22 on April 24, 2018, 17:59:35
Another amendment to add to the record!

1P40 17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:07 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

But let me introduce some good news, 1P42 17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington is a 5 car IET (running with First Class at the rear, mind you!)  ;D


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on April 24, 2018, 18:31:37
You'd expect that if the outward 1552 was terminated at Oxford?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 25, 2018, 08:41:17
Another "regular" this morning:

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05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

And I'm waiting for GWR's social media team to give me the heads up on today's 15:52 PAD:MIM


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 25, 2018, 12:03:06
And here's the update on the 15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh service.

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It's going to terminate at Oxford all this week. We will try and source an IET set next week, not possible at the moment because of Newbury works

Presumably the cancellations will be drip fed at the last minute on a daily basis.

This means, as far as Cotswold Line running is concerned, this is now the most cancelled service for 2018 overtaking the 16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern (with the 08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington close behind!).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 25, 2018, 13:23:15
Quote
And here's the update on the 15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh service.

Quote
It's going to terminate at Oxford all this week. We will try and source an IET set next week, not possible at the moment because of Newbury works


Further update, and good news:

Quote
The 1650 Oxford to Moreton In Marsh will operate today and tomorrow due to extra staff onboard the train so they won't have to reserve the train... [but] on Friday it will not operate between Oxford and MIM.

Perhaps one reason the cancellations aren't announced until the last minute might be because GWR are trying to actively manage this which is to be appreciated.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 26, 2018, 13:59:27
Hopefully no problems with the 15:52 PAD:MIM today as the 15:22 PAD:GMV is going to be a snug two coach Turbo today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 27, 2018, 08:11:45
A pair of regular favourites:

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05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

And the possibility/probability of the 15:52 PAD:MIM not going beyond Oxford this afternoon still to come (and it was very very cosy on yesterday's 15:22 PAD:GMV 2 coach Turbo).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on April 27, 2018, 10:12:55
 
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10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47
10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:27/04/2018 08:17

Quote
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:27/04/2018 08:17

Despite "GWR"'s statements about trying harder, nothing seems to be improving for the Cotswold and Hereford route.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 27, 2018, 10:59:35
And now the expected:

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15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Although it's a full cancellation rather than just a termination at Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 27, 2018, 11:05:37

Despite "GWR"'s statements about trying harder, nothing seems to be improving for the Cotswold and Hereford route.


That's six cancellations already today for the north Cotswold Line. Seems Saturday has come a day early!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on April 27, 2018, 11:44:06
 >:(


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on April 27, 2018, 15:51:27
Quote
15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59
15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59 will call additionally at Pershore.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Last Updated:27/04/2018 15:45

The excuses coming thick and fast now.  Unlike the trains.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 27, 2018, 16:27:56
15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59
15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59 will call additionally at Pershore.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:27/04/2018 15:45

Presumably due to the cancellation of the 15:14 Hereford to Paddington, though it's not also stopping additionally at Kingham or Hanborough.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 29, 2018, 13:35:50
A truncating of the late evening service tonight - no idea how much real inconvenience this will cause given the engineering works:

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21:28 Worcester Shrub Hill to Hanborough due 22:32 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

22:04 Hanborough to Great Malvern due 23:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

23:40 Hanborough to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:45 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 30, 2018, 09:51:43
Here's the outlook for the 15:52 PAD:MIM this week. Not good news.

Quote
today it will terminate at Oxford from next week we are sourcing an extra driver to ensure it can go through to and reverse at Moreton


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on April 30, 2018, 14:56:19
Just picked this up from Realtime Trains re this morning's 09:50 MIM:PAD

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This service was cancelled between Moreton-in-Marsh and Oxford due to a problem at the depot (MU)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on April 30, 2018, 17:59:26
Here's the outlook for the 15:52 PAD:MIM this week. Not good news.

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today it will terminate at Oxford from next week we are sourcing an extra driver to ensure it can go through to and reverse at Moreton

Well, today it did in fact run through!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on May 02, 2018, 11:34:18
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09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28
09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:02/05/2018 09:37


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on May 04, 2018, 10:06:07
 
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08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40
08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40 will be terminated at Colwall.
It will no longer call at Ledbury and Hereford.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:04/05/2018 08:26

 
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12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27
12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 will be started from Colwall.
It will no longer call at Hereford and Ledbury.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:04/05/2018 08:29

I suppose there's some fault meaning the train isn't allowed with passengers through the tunnel??  Surely it won't be sitting at Colwall from 1113 until 1234, waiting time for the return working from there towards London?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 07, 2018, 18:20:06
This one could be a record-breaker in terms of the number of changes to the advertised service:
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17:35 Maidenhead to Hereford due 20:26 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Reading and terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Maidenhead, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class reduced. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Toilet facilities are reduced.
Last Updated:07/05/2018 16:44


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on May 07, 2018, 18:28:03
JoyurneyCheck now advising :=

This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.

This is due to urgent repairs to the track.

as excuses now.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on May 08, 2018, 11:28:02
 
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13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will no longer call at Slough.
This is due to a speed restriction because of high track temperatures.
Last Updated:08/05/2018 07:58

The above is only one example of numerous trains on the Worcester and hereford route not stopping today at Slough because of high track temperatures.  Presumably a trs has been instigated and this is to claw back some of the anticipated lost time?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 08, 2018, 15:08:49
A couple that may catch a few out this afternoon:

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15:21 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will be started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Slough.
This is due to a speed restriction because of high track temperatures.

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15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Slough.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on May 09, 2018, 12:09:46
Another rash of Slough stops being omitted from Cotswold Line services today.  For reasons of speed restriction.  Unless I've missed something, it seems to be only in the Up direction today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on May 09, 2018, 12:28:06
Another rash of Slough stops being omitted from Cotswold Line services today.  For reasons of speed restriction.  Unless I've missed something, it seems to be only in the Up direction today.

Looks like Paddington to Bedwyn service has been reduced to a Reading to Bedwyn service - and that's in both directions.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 10, 2018, 11:17:53
This morning's 04:47 Hereford to Paddington was diverted missing out stops between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading due to a member of staff being taken ill.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 11, 2018, 08:34:43
Significant disruption this morning due to signalling problems in the Oxford area:

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Cancellations to services at Oxford
Following a fault with the signalling system at Oxford all lines have now reopened.
Train services running through this station are returning to normal but some services may still be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 10:00 11/05.

05:11 WOS:PAD 26 late at Oxford; 05:28 HFD:PAD departed Oxford 32 late (having been held at Charlbury for 23 minutes); 05:47 PAD:WOF diverted between Didcot and Worcester Shrub Hill; 07:10 MIM:PAD started from Oxford; 06:53 WOF:DID stopping additionally at Radley, Culham and Appleford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jmc85 on May 11, 2018, 08:57:27
05:28 HFD-PAD now running 49 late (i'm on it). We stopped additionally at Didcot for some reason, and were running on the slow lines for quite a while.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on May 11, 2018, 09:27:44
 
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06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37
06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 is being delayed between Didcot Parkway and Oxford and is now expected to be 14 minutes late.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:11/05/2018 08:05

 
 
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08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault with the on train signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:11/05/2018 08:27

 
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08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40
08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40 will no longer call at Slough.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 27 minutes late.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:11/05/2018 08:58


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: GBM on May 11, 2018, 09:51:47

This is due to a fault with the on train signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:11/05/2018 08:27[/i]

Last Updated:11/05/2018 08:58[/i][/quote]
[/quote]
On train signalling system? Have we gone European?
Thought on train signalling was common in Europe but would be introduced in the UK 'drekly'.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: stuving on May 11, 2018, 10:06:08

This is due to a fault with the on train signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:11/05/2018 08:58[/i]

On train signalling system? Have we gone European?
Thought on train signalling was common in Europe but would be introduced in the UK 'drekly'.

I think you'll find such systems throughout Europe, Britain included, on all high-speed lines (meaning proper, fast, ones) but rare otherwise. It's just that we only have the one little one of those in HS1.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on May 11, 2018, 11:46:45
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11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44
11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 will be started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Slough.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:11/05/2018 10:36

More knock-on effects from the signalling problems at Oxford earlier in the day.

I read in the Evesham Journal a letter referring to the shockingly bad Cotswold Line service from CLPG.  This route is getting a very bad reputation.  Richly deserved, I might add.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 14, 2018, 17:26:53
The impact of the over-running engineering works spreads far and wide. Luckily, GWR have an easy and regular fix for some congestion issues:

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15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
Last Updated:14/05/2018 16:55

17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:07 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.

And a very late call too.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 15, 2018, 08:03:30
Another fun morning:

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04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:54 has been delayed at Worcester Foregate Street and is now 23 minutes late.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

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05:11 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 07:27 will no longer call at Kingham, Hanborough and Maidenhead.
It has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 34 minutes late.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

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07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:54 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to congestion.

The result was that the 05:11 WOS:PAD sped through Hanborough shortly after the 04:47 HFD:PAD was supposed to have departed leaving customers for both services to wait for the latter which eventually arrived a little after 07:15 by which time a fair number of passengers for the 05:28 HFD:PAD would also have joined the crowd!

And a little later as a result of the track defect between Ealing Broadway and Paddington:

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09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 15, 2018, 17:28:22
The impact of the urgent track works spreads far and wide. Luckily, GWR have an easy and regular fix for some congestion issues:

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15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to urgent repairs to the track.
Last Updated:15/05/2018 16:49

17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:07 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh.

And a very late call too.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on May 16, 2018, 15:43:34
 
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13:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:41
13:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:41 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Evesham, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to the train driver being taken ill.
Last Updated:16/05/2018 14:13

 
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15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 18:01
15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 18:01 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh and Charlbury.
This is due to the train driver being taken ill.
Last Updated:16/05/2018 14:14

More cancellations along the Oxford Worcester route, yet this kind of announcement never appears as a "train cancellation" on GWR Journecheck, merely a "service amendment".  Pure spin.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on May 16, 2018, 16:55:27
Update:

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15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 18:01
15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 18:01 has been cancelled.
This is due to the train driver being taken ill.
Last Updated:16/05/2018 16:14


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 16, 2018, 17:29:03
The impact of signalling problems spreads far and wide. Luckily, GWR have an easy and regular fix for some congestion issues:

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15:52 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:16/05/2018 16:54

17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:07 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh.

And a very late call too.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 18, 2018, 08:14:44
Couple this morning:

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05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be terminated at Oxford.
It has been delayed at Didcot Parkway and is now 30 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.


08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be started from Oxford.

Last Updated:18/05/2018 07:09


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 20, 2018, 10:56:20
The start of the new timetable...

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08:02 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:54 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

08:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:51 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

11:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:10 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

12:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 15:55 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

13:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 17:11 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

16:34 Hereford to London Paddington due 20:08 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 21, 2018, 17:48:33
Whilst it was great to see the 15:22 PAD:GMV (and a number of other services) being booked as an HST, not such good news on the return run:

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18:29 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:05 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

and later on:

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20:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 26, 2018, 08:58:52
Today (Saturday May 26) is the first day of the big job to insert a second bridge south of Worcester.  It sees the Cotswold Line operating London - Evesham, with road transport beyond.

Today's cancellations:

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06:18 London Paddington to Evesham due 08:19 will be cancelled.
09:18 London Paddington to Evesham due 11:19 will be cancelled.
09:22 Evesham to London Paddington due 11:30 will be cancelled.
12:28 Evesham to London Paddington due 14:30 will be cancelled.

All are due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 26, 2018, 15:30:43
And some more...
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15:28 Evesham to London Paddington due 17:30
16:18 London Paddington to Evesham due 18:23
17:18 London Paddington to Evesham due 19:19
17:25 Evesham to London Paddington due 19:30
18:18 London Paddington to Evesham due 20:23
21:36 Evesham to London Paddington due 23:51

Cancelling the 16:18, 17:18 and 18:18 from Paddington leaves a gap between 15:18 and 19:48.

I do feel that John McEnroe would have the right quote here.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 26, 2018, 16:27:12
John McEnroe's cry has been heard, for the 17:18 Paddington - Evesham has now disappeared from JourrneyCheck's list of 'cancellations', though it has not appeared as 'restored' in 'other train service updates'.

Meanwhile, for the record,

08:26 Evesham - Paddington is shown on RTT as "This service was cancelled throughout due to an error having been made (OC)."

09:22 Evesham - Paddington was restored, but starting from Moreton-in-Marsh.

11:25 Evesham - Paddington was also restored, starting from Moreton. Again, on RTT as "This service was cancelled between Evesham and Moreton-in-Marsh due to an error having been made (OC)."


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: stuving on May 26, 2018, 17:25:09
11:25 Evesham - Paddington was also restored, starting from Moreton. Again, on RTT as "This service was cancelled between Evesham and Moreton-in-Marsh due to an error having been made (OC)."

Was it an error to send off the 10:25 at 11:35, so it never caught up with the curtailed 11:25? Maybe, but the full wording for code OC is: "Signaller, including wrong routing and wrong ETCS/ ERTMS instruction". All codes starting with "O" are Network Rail operational causes, and those starting with "T" are passenger TOC causes.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on May 27, 2018, 10:22:18
Cancelled again………..no crew (again)

08:34 London Paddington to Evesham due 10:38

11:55 Evesham to London Paddington due 14:07

14:34 London Paddington to Evesham due 16:45


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: philipbourton on May 28, 2018, 18:00:01
For anyone who isn't aware, it looks as if the 5.55 from Kingham changes at Oxford, with the 0623 not running at all tomorrow and Wednesday, this is despite the travel update information which has been published not indicating any changed at all to the morning service from Kingham. I can understand that there's engineering works but not that the information given is incorrect. Only found out by chance as wanted to see what times trains were leaving Paddington in the evening


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jmc85 on May 28, 2018, 19:44:59
Thanks - yes wasn’t aware of that so would have faced a lovely 45 minute wait after the non-existant 0633 ex-Charlbury!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: philipbourton on May 28, 2018, 20:24:42
I did wonder at one point whether I'd missed the info on the updates, but have rechecked at there's no mention at all of any changes to services from Moreton southwards. Gwrhelp on twitter not very helpful neither as just retweeted the link to the updates. I'd have had a 1hr wait at Kingham otherwise as get the bus from Bourton. Not impressed with the info given (or not given) at all.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: CMRail on May 29, 2018, 09:49:13
07:55 Evesham to Paddington was cancelled due to a shortage of train crew. Not the only one this morning however.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 29, 2018, 11:32:30
Seems like a good week to have taken off work.

Looking at Realtime Trains the service this morning seems to have been patchy at best:

0527 Evesham to Reading started from Oxford due to signal box not being open;
The equivalent of the 0447 Hereford to Paddington not scheduled to run;
0637 Evesham to Paddington terminated at Oxford due to problems with traction equipment;
0755 Evesham to Paddington cancelled as mentioned above.

And some further issues from JourneyCheck:

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10:22 London Paddington to Evesham due 12:21 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne and Evesham.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

11:22 London Paddington to Evesham due 13:21 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne and Evesham.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

12:21 London Paddington to Evesham due 14:19 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at London Paddington, Slough and Reading.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.

17:22 London Paddington to Evesham due 19:14 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

And the return runnings of the 1022 & 1122 also affected:

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13:17 Evesham to London Paddington due 15:27 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

14:25 Evesham to London Paddington due 16:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on May 29, 2018, 13:33:52
Seems like a good week to have taken off work.

Ah ... and the drivers and managers with families are saying "Seems like a good week to have taken off work" too.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on May 29, 2018, 16:23:37
Seems like a good week to have taken off work.

Ah ... and the drivers and managers with families are saying "Seems like a good week to have taken off work" too.

Perhaps the "managers" should have ensured that they had enough staff to run a service first before signing off all the leave?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on May 29, 2018, 18:00:45
And for those hoping to get home a little later this evening:

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19:22 London Paddington to Evesham due 21:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

20:22 London Paddington to Evesham due 22:20 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne and Evesham.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ellendune on May 29, 2018, 19:12:49
Seems like a good week to have taken off work.

Ah ... and the drivers and managers with families are saying "Seems like a good week to have taken off work" too.

Perhaps the "managers" should have ensured that they had enough staff to run a service first before signing off all the leave?


So if I was told I could not have leave because NR and DfT have cocked up and so we all have to do training instead. How will I feel and if another TOC are looking for drivers locally what will I do? 

This manager have the right to manage come what may is a myth.  This is a market in which employers must show some empathy for their staff or they will continue to find they are a training factory for the rest of the industry.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on May 29, 2018, 20:34:57
Seems like a good week to have taken off work.

Ah ... and the drivers and managers with families are saying "Seems like a good week to have taken off work" too.

Perhaps the "managers" should have ensured that they had enough staff to run a service first before signing off all the leave?


So if I was told I could not have leave because NR and DfT have cocked up and so we all have to do training instead. How will I feel and if another TOC are looking for drivers locally what will I do? 

This manager have the right to manage come what may is a myth.  This is a market in which employers must show some empathy for their staff or they will continue to find they are a training factory for the rest of the industry.

.....so what happens to your customers?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ellendune on May 29, 2018, 20:50:42
Seems like a good week to have taken off work.

Ah ... and the drivers and managers with families are saying "Seems like a good week to have taken off work" too.

Perhaps the "managers" should have ensured that they had enough staff to run a service first before signing off all the leave?


So if I was told I could not have leave because NR and DfT have cocked up and so we all have to do training instead. How will I feel and if another TOC are looking for drivers locally what will I do? 

This manager have the right to manage come what may is a myth.  This is a market in which employers must show some empathy for their staff or they will continue to find they are a training factory for the rest of the industry.

.....so what happens to your customers?

Well the biggest customer of GWR  - the one that calls the shots - is DfT who will not care.  However, I know who you mean but taking the failings of others out on your own staff will not in the long run do much for us customers.   

Some companies have tried treating their staff well and find that as a result the staff treat the customers well. Just paying them lots of money while treating them like dirt does not seem to have the same effect.  Now I don't know how GWR treat its staff but their customers service attitude as reported here is mixed some very good some very bad. 


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on May 29, 2018, 21:09:39
Seems like a good week to have taken off work.

Ah ... and the drivers and managers with families are saying "Seems like a good week to have taken off work" too.

Perhaps the "managers" should have ensured that they had enough staff to run a service first before signing off all the leave?


So if I was told I could not have leave because NR and DfT have cocked up and so we all have to do training instead. How will I feel and if another TOC are looking for drivers locally what will I do? 

This manager have the right to manage come what may is a myth.  This is a market in which employers must show some empathy for their staff or they will continue to find they are a training factory for the rest of the industry.

.....so what happens to your customers?

Well the biggest customer of GWR  - the one that calls the shots - is DfT who will not care.  However, I know who you mean but taking the failings of others out on your own staff will not in the long run do much for us customers.   



That's the finest sidestep I've seen since Jason Robinson retired 🙂


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ellendune on May 29, 2018, 21:47:31
That's the finest sidestep I've seen since Jason Robinson retired 🙂

I am not saying I have a solution to the driver shortage, just that you don't either. Taking it out on the staff might solve the problem for a day or two but only make it worse later and if some leave it will make it a whole lot worse for quite a time.   

There is no law of nature that says every problem has an easy solution. 


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on May 29, 2018, 22:42:48
Training of Oxford LTV staff on IET’s should be about to commence following a deal that’s been ratified by ASLEF, so that should help immensely in terms of driver availability for Cotswold Line services, more of which will be going over to IET operation over the summer.  The Oxford signalling blockade will be an ideal opportunity to get several passed out when there will be spare driver capacity.

Worcester depot is slowly but surely getting its establishment passed out fully as well.

We’ll be in trouble until September still, but after that I would expect few cancellations due to driver shortages.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: philipbourton on May 30, 2018, 00:15:23
And for those hoping to get home a little later this evening:

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19:22 London Paddington to Evesham due 21:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

20:22 London Paddington to Evesham due 22:20 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne and Evesham.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.
.   I guess we'll see the same tomorrow then. Wasn't helped by the 1945 cross country Reading to Oxford and beyond not waiting for the Swansea passenger to cross, despite staff at Paddington saying it would. Although fortunately GWR put on taxis to get home once at Oxford. Sorry, get to station and expect we all park so don't have lifts.  Still, got to meet an interesting family in the taxi, and learnt a bit of Latin in the process.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Oxonhutch on May 30, 2018, 08:00:35
... and learnt a bit of Latin in the process.

Non illegitimi carborundum?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: CMRail on May 30, 2018, 18:00:01
Passengers on the 16:22 service to Evesham are in for a ride.

I assume that at Oxford, you will through this moving depot which avoids Combe and Finstock.

Best of all... it takes the same amount of time!

And the 19:22 was cancelled.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 31, 2018, 07:26:39
Thursday May 31 : first day back to normal after the blockade for the inserting of a second bridge over the Worcester southern by-pass.

05:12 Paddington - Moreton cancelled after Oxford due to signals.
07:10 Moreton - Paddington started from Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 01, 2018, 01:09:25
Perhaps "normal" was the wrong word.

From JourneyCheck:
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Delays to services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill
Due to a fault with the signalling system between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill trains have to run at reduced speed.
Train services running through these stations may be delayed by up to 20 minutes. Disruption is expected until 01:30 01/06.
Last Updated:01/06/2018 00:23

RTT reports:
18:22 Paddington - Hereford arrived Hereford at 00:48, some 196 late
19:22 Paddington - Hereford cancelled after Oxford "due to a problem with the traction equipment (MD)"
20:22 Paddington - Great Malvern cancelled throughout "due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)"
         On JourneyCheck as being "due to a problem with the crew".
21:48 Paddington - Shrub Hill currently (01:04) 77 late at Moreton-in-Marsh

18:34 Great Malvern - Paddington cancelled after Shrub Hill "due to an issue with the train crew (TG)"
19:42 Great Malvern - Paddington arrived 107 late
20:59 Foregate Street - Paddington cancelled after Oxford "due to a signal failure (J3)". Arrived Oxford 88 late.
21:51 Hereford - Paddington currently 69 late at Oxford




Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 01, 2018, 11:10:50
Perhaps "normal" was the wrong word.

From JourneyCheck:
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Delays to services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill
Due to a fault with the signalling system between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill trains have to run at reduced speed.
Train services running through these stations may be delayed by up to 20 minutes. Disruption is expected until 01:30 01/06.
Last Updated:01/06/2018 00:23



Seems to be something more difficult to resolve:

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Due to a fault with the signalling system between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill fewer trains are able to run. Disruption is expected until 17:30 01/06.

Train services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill may be delayed by up to 30 minutes or terminated at and started back from Worcester Shrub Hill [and] train services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford may be cancelled.

From Realtime trains this morning:

04:47 Hereford to Paddington - cancelled between Hereford and Oxford due to the planned train being replaced with a slower train (MS);
05:28 Hereford to Paddington - 26 late at Wolvercote Junction, 41 late at Paddington;
06:42 Hereford to Paddington - 22 late at Wolvercote Junction, 32 late at Paddington;
07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington - cancelled throughout due to a signal failure (J3);
09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington - cancelled between Moreton-in-Marsh and Oxford due to a signalling problem (track circuit failure) (IC).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jdw.wor on June 01, 2018, 12:56:23
I really don’t understand the reason given for the 0447. If it was a slower train (and what was that, an 08 shunter?) it would have been running late and not part cancelled). Am I being thick?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 02, 2018, 08:05:57
Yesterday, Friday June 1, was one of the worst days of the year so far:

04:47 Hereford - Paddington : started at Oxford
05:28 Hereford - Paddington : 41 late
07:10 Moreton - Paddington : cancelled
06:42 Hereford - Paddington : 32 late
09:50 Moreton - Paddington : started at Oxford
09:54 Great Malvern - Paddington : started at Foregate St
10:59 Great Malvern - Paddington : started at Foregate St
12:09 Hereford - Paddington : started at Foregate St
15:14 Hereford - Paddington : started at Foregate St
17:38 Moreton - Paddington : started at Oxford
18:34 Great Malvern - Paddington : started at Foregate St

05:14 Oxford - Foregate St : 40 late
05:12 Paddington - Moreton : cancelled
06:52 Paddington - Great Malvern : cancelled after Foregate St
07:50 Paddington - Great Malvern : cancelled after Foregate St
08:21 Paddington - Hereford : cancelled after Shrub Hill (37 late)
10:22 Paddington - Hereford : cancelled after Shrub Hill (48 late)
15:22 Paddington - Great Malvern : cancelled after Foregate St
15:52 Paddington - Moreton : cancelled after Oxford
18:22 Paddington - Hereford : 33 late





Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on June 02, 2018, 08:38:46
The "Meet the Manager" sessions should be interesting!  >:(


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on June 02, 2018, 18:42:34
The problems on Friday above were mostly hangovers from the storms/flooding/lightning strikes on Thursday night. A lot of overnighting stock in wrong positions on Friday morning


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on June 06, 2018, 11:27:55
Some inconvenient amendments this morning

 
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09:50 Moreton-In-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30
Facilities on the 09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30.
Toilet facilities are not available.
Last Updated:06/06/2018 07:44

and

 
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10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29
Facilities on the 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29.
Toilet facilities are not available.
Last Updated:06/06/2018 07:44


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on June 06, 2018, 11:34:51
Quote
2W10 0514 Oxford to Evesham
This service was cancelled between Evesham and Worcester Foregate Street due to an unknown problem (TO).

19 mins late at Evesham on 06/06/2018 and terminated

returned to Oxford empty cars 5E92

Quote
2E92 0811 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
This service was cancelled between Worcester Foregate Street and Oxford due to a problem with the train (M8).

Who'd be a commuter on this line these days?  Or indeed, who'd bother with the train at all, if you need to be somewhere at a certain time of day?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on June 06, 2018, 12:05:55
Can anyone translate the two-letter codes at the end of the reasons (TO & MB)? My understanding is that TO is usually some kind of operator error, for example?

I hope at least one toilet stop was allowed on those trains above without toilets!!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: stuving on June 06, 2018, 12:56:31
Can anyone translate the two-letter codes at the end of the reasons (TO & MB)? My understanding is that TO is usually some kind of operator error, for example?

I hope at least one toilet stop was allowed on those trains above without toilets!!

The delay cause codes are listed in the tables in section 5 of "Delay Attribution Principles and Rules (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjirKus_b7bAhWFLsAKHcZOAoQQFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.delayattributionboard.co.uk%2Fdocuments%2Fdag_pdac%2FApril%25202018%2520DAPR.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3TXwtBB5F3aOkdwWwnz4e_)".

For the more general ones, the words displayed with them convey the definition pretty well. Some are more specific, though. The tables make the attribution to one (or more) organisation explicit in most cases, or else say how this is to be decided.

The list of first letters, indicating classes of causes by responsibility, is:
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A - FREIGHT TERMINAL OPERATING CAUSES
D – HOLDING CODES
F - FREIGHT OPERATING CAUSES
I - INFRASTRUCTURE CAUSES
J - FURTHER INFRASTRUCTURE CAUSES
M - MECHANICAL OR FLEET ENGINEER CAUSES
N –OTHER MECHANICAL OR FLEET ENGINEER CAUSES
O - NETWORK RAIL OPERATING CAUSES
P - PLANNED OR EXCLUDED DELAYS OR CANCELLATIONS
Q - NETWORK RAIL NON-OPERATING CAUSES
R - STATION OPERATING CAUSES
T - PASSENGER OPERATING CAUSES
V – EXTERNAL EVENTS – TOC RESPONSIBILITY
X - EXTERNAL EVENTS - NETWORK RAIL
Y - REACTIONARY DELAYS
Z - UNEXPLAINED DELAYS AND CANCELLATIONS

MB is: Electric loco failure, defect, attention. [ELEC LOCO]
TO is: Time lost en-route believed to be Operator cause and information required from Operator (Ops Responsibility)  [LIR UNEX]


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on June 06, 2018, 13:23:39
I presume the codes are assigned to the *actual* cause of delay, so in 2E92, 'electric loco' refers to the cause of 2E92s non appearance? Coz 2E92 itself is bvery unlikely to have an electric loco attached!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: stuving on June 06, 2018, 14:02:00
I presume the codes are assigned to the *actual* cause of delay, so in 2E92, 'electric loco' refers to the cause of 2E92s non appearance? Coz 2E92 itself is bvery unlikely to have an electric loco attached!

2E92 wasn't coded MB, it was M8 - Other delays associated with technical faults above the solebar.
Examples are given as:
Air conditioning
Cab heaters
Internal lighting
VCB
Toilets
Window faults (excl. those broken by external causes)
Failed passenger facilities e.g. broken seating



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on June 06, 2018, 14:04:56
ugh - possibly toilets again then!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 06, 2018, 17:35:27
An old favourite rears its head again today:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

Last Updated:06/06/2018 17:01

And, as so often, a very late call.

By my reckoning that's the 23rd time this year this service has not run on to Moreton-in-Marsh - almost once a week.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 06, 2018, 17:51:39
And another pair:
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15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
It has been delayed between London Paddington and Oxford and is now 16 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed.
Last Updated:06/06/2018 17:47

Same applies to the 18:29 Great Malvern - Paddington.

Also a late call.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martvw on June 07, 2018, 00:13:08
I think Chiltern Trains should take over the running of the Oxford to Hereford service ! I do not think GWR want it why would you let things get so bad??


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ellendune on June 07, 2018, 07:19:09
I think Chiltern Trains should take over the running of the Oxford to Hereford service ! I do not think GWR want it why would you let things get so bad??

Isn't the implication of such a move that it would be that it was just that - an Oxford to Hereford Service - without any Paddington to Hereford service?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Oxonhutch on June 07, 2018, 09:18:01
Reopen the Buckinghamshire Junction Railway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckinghamshire_Junction_Railway) and run a Hereford to Marylebone via Oxford Parkway!  ;D :P


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Steve Bray on June 07, 2018, 12:34:46
And yesterday's 1551 from Foregate St to Paddington was started at Shrub Hill. On time as far as Charlbury, and then departed about 13 mins late waiting for the 1522 from PAD to come off the single line.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 11, 2018, 17:14:55
Guess what?

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Slough, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 24 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed.
Last Updated:11/06/2018 16:35

and the return from MIM as well.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on June 12, 2018, 10:12:59
I was at PAD on another train and a problem on the inbound prevented trains from arriving at PAD around 4pm....hence no crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 12, 2018, 12:15:41
I've given up on the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh because I can't trust GWR to run it beyond Oxford and now catch the 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern...

Quote
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

I suppose a fair bit of notice has been given. Fingers crossed no problems with the 15:50 today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 12, 2018, 16:23:15
I've given up on the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh because I can't trust GWR to run it beyond Oxford and now catch the 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern...

Quote
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train drivers.

I suppose a fair bit of notice has been given. Fingers crossed no problems with the 15:50 today.

Not looking encouraging at the moment - just left Slough 14 late!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on June 12, 2018, 18:59:46
Ran through to Moreton arriving 9 late, with a similar delay to its next working as a result.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 14, 2018, 17:27:14
And yet again:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 20 minutes late.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

This is the 25th time this year this service hasn't got beyond Oxford. I'm fortunate in that my employer let me alter my working hours so I could avoid this train but for many that's not an option.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 18, 2018, 08:04:35
Quote
05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 will be started from Ledbury.
It will no longer call at Hereford.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.

Quote
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 was terminated at Oxford...
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.

and the return

Quote
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be started from Oxford...
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on June 18, 2018, 11:25:42
Re 0528 - s that an IET? If so, there is an issue with the length of the train on Pl 1 & 2 that seems to be overhanging the points. NR are working on a solution.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on June 18, 2018, 11:35:24
Not an IET, no.  The reason was down to signal boxes not being opened in time between Hereford and Malvern - the ECS that forms it from St. Philips Marsh being diverted via Worcester this morning.  Though the ECS (3P12) was already 30 minutes late at Worcester, so it would probably have been late starting from Hereford anyway.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 20, 2018, 08:06:15
I think that's pretty much a cancellation as far as Cotswold Line users are concerned:

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06:53 Worcester Foregate Street to Didcot Parkway due 08:28
06:53 Worcester Foregate Street to Didcot Parkway due 08:28 has been reinstated.
It will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Shipton, Ascott-under-Wychwood, Charlbury, Finstock, Combe and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Additional Information
Passengers please await the next available service to Oxford.
Passengers for Ascot, Finstock and Combe please await the next available service to Oxford and then alight at Kingham station and take the booked taxi from there to these intermediate stations.
Passengers from Ascot, Finstock and Combe please await the taxi to Oxford for onward connections.
Last Updated:20/06/2018 07:22


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on June 20, 2018, 09:55:40
The following HST made an additional stop at Shipton (and was standing room only by Oxford).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Thatcham Crossing on June 20, 2018, 14:04:15
I was arriving in PAD this morning and at around 1120 observed a 2-car 165 departing to Worcester Foregate Street, absolutely rammed to the gunnels.

As it left, the Chiltern (Parliamentary) 165 pulled in next door, and I think 1 person got off!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: trainer on June 20, 2018, 22:22:16
I was arriving in PAD this morning and at around 1120 observed a 2-car 165 departing to Worcester Foregate Street, absolutely rammed to the gunnels.

As it left, the Chiltern (Parliamentary) 165 pulled in next door, and I think 1 person got off!

Probably best to regard the Chiltern 'service' as a training turn available to passengers. I understand its main purpose (other than a legal one) is to keep route knowledge for drivers up-to-date ready for any diversions.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on June 21, 2018, 05:23:42
I was arriving in PAD this morning and at around 1120 observed a 2-car 165 departing to Worcester Foregate Street, absolutely rammed to the gunnels.

As it left, the Chiltern (Parliamentary) 165 pulled in next door, and I think 1 person got off!

Probably best to regard the Chiltern 'service' as a training turn available to passengers. I understand its main purpose (other than a legal one) is to keep route knowledge for drivers up-to-date ready for any diversions.

I would agree that it runs for route knowledge; as a "parly" I suspect it might have been cut back to once a week by now. I don't think a quiet in run is just tolerated because it is then jam-packed on the way out!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on June 25, 2018, 14:28:44
As a matter of interest, does anyone know what happened with 1P04 0511 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington this morning?

Departed Worcester Shrub Hill 10 minutes late,
Evesham 10 minutes late,
Moreton-in-Marsh 15 minutes late,
Oxford 20 minutes late

Arrived Paddington 22 minutes late

I suppose Cotswold line passengers have to be glad that the train ran at all - but that's a heck of a lot of time to lose whilst en-route.  Maybe the (HST???) train wasn't running on full power?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on June 26, 2018, 06:13:22
Hmmmmm....

 
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04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52
04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill and terminated at London Paddington.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Didcot Parkway, Reading and London Paddington but will call additionally at Pershore, Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Didcot Parkway and Reading.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:26/06/2018 03:33


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 26, 2018, 06:59:31
That's a very confused train : I hope it can remember what it's supposed to do.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 26, 2018, 07:58:40
Yesterday saw the first running of the 0710 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington as a nine coach IET. Today:

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07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: CyclingSid on June 26, 2018, 11:03:08
Where can I find a summary of the reliability, or not, on weekends. Thinking of going to Evesham and Pershore this weekend.
Any experts like to hazard a meteorological and metallurgical forecast as to whether "wiggly" rails are likely?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 28, 2018, 08:19:32
Quote
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:28/06/2018 07:20

and the return

Quote
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ray951 on June 28, 2018, 08:58:33
Quote
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:28/06/2018 07:20

and the return

Quote
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault on this train.
I guess that is why one of the new 9 car IET, 800304, was parked at Oxford this morning.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 28, 2018, 17:28:15
The usual:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.

Last Updated:28/06/2018 16:59

And the usual late call too - regular passengers on this service wanting go beyond Oxford must have a sense of foreboding as it pulls into Oxford...

Return working similarly affected.

And to top it on this sweltering afternoon, the following service - the 16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern - lost over 20 minutes between Didcot North and Oxford, and has just gone through Wolvercote Junction 26 minutes late.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ray951 on June 28, 2018, 21:27:03

And to top it on this sweltering afternoon, the following service - the 16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern - lost over 20 minutes between Didcot North and Oxford, and has just gone through Wolvercote Junction 26 minutes late.
That was late because the 1659 Didcot to oxford spent 20 minutes at Culham trying to fix a door, I was on the train. Of course on a hot day it was a 166 with no air conditioning and because the driver from this train is the driver for the 1831 to Paddington it meant that neither platform 3 or 4 at Oxford could be used!
Hopefully the coming signalling upgrade will resolve some of these issues.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 29, 2018, 07:39:19
Friday June 29
JourneyCheck reports:
Quote
04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
RTT has the stock running empty from Hereford to Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on June 29, 2018, 07:47:01
Quote from: ray951
That was late because the 1659 Didcot to oxford spent 20 minutes at Culham trying to fix a door, I was on the train. Of course on a hot day it was a 166 with no air conditioning and because the driver from this train is the driver for the 1831 to Paddington it meant that neither platform 3 or 4 at Oxford could be used!
Hopefully the coming signalling upgrade will resolve some of these issues.

It should make things much better with a big increase in flexibility at Oxford station, along with the ability to route trains round a failure between Didcot and Wolvercote using the bi-directional signalling.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ray951 on June 29, 2018, 09:21:25
Quote from: ray951
That was late because the 1659 Didcot to oxford spent 20 minutes at Culham trying to fix a door, I was on the train. Of course on a hot day it was a 166 with no air conditioning and because the driver from this train is the driver for the 1831 to Paddington it meant that neither platform 3 or 4 at Oxford could be used!
Hopefully the coming signalling upgrade will resolve some of these issues.

It should make things much better with a big increase in flexibility at Oxford station, along with the ability to route trains round a failure between Didcot and Wolvercote using the bi-directional signalling.
These will all help but Oxford desperately needs more platforms. When I arrived at Oxford platform 4 was so full they were standing on the overbridge stairs as there was no more room on the platform.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on June 29, 2018, 10:00:59
Agreed.  Platform 5 is very much on the agenda I believe (as part of Phase 2 of the Oxford Corridor works) and hopefully won’t have to wait for any major station rebuild that might be many years away.  I am hoping they take the opportunity to widen the platform face of what will become an island platform in the same way the platform at the north end of platform 3 was widened when platform 2 was rebuilt.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on June 29, 2018, 11:17:16
Quote
09:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:31 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Evesham, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
It has been delayed at Reading and is now 60 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on a train in front of this one.

Last Updated:29/06/2018 10:53

with the return run starting from Oxford.

And, I presume, unrelated:

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09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Last Updated:29/06/2018 09:14

Given the decision to terminate was taken before the train had started its journey, I wonder what sort of fault it might have been.

And an inconvenience:

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Facilities on the 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29.
Toilet facilities are not available.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on June 29, 2018, 13:20:55
Quote
09:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:31 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Evesham, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
It has been delayed at Reading and is now 60 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on a train in front of this one.

Train in front, a Swansea bound HST, failed near Goring with fire alarms sounding and it took getting on for an hour to sort that out.  Passengers were transferred into the Hereford service at Oxford which was behind it.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on June 29, 2018, 14:01:20
 
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12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27
12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault on a train in front of this one.
Last Updated:29/06/2018 10:53

Another day of not dependable service


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 01, 2018, 19:29:23
Agreed.  Platform 5 is very much on the agenda I believe (as part of Phase 2 of the Oxford Corridor works) and hopefully won’t have to wait for any major station rebuild that might be many years away.

Now subject to the vagaries of CP6 bidding I understand, and word has it that it'll be tied into the Botley Road Bridge replacement/widening for which highway money would be needed. Don't hold your breath
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Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ellendune on July 01, 2018, 19:42:30
Agreed.  Platform 5 is very much on the agenda I believe (as part of Phase 2 of the Oxford Corridor works) and hopefully won’t have to wait for any major station rebuild that might be many years away.

Now subject to the vagaries of CP6 bidding I understand, and word has it that it'll be tied into the Botley Road Bridge replacement/widening for which highway money would be needed. Don't hold your breath

Depends how marginal Oxford is seen to be at the next General Election


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 01, 2018, 19:53:55
Hmmm


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 02, 2018, 08:14:22
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05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.

Last Updated:02/07/2018 02:50

and the return:

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08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.

As far as running along the north Cotswold Line is concerned, the 08:25 is certainly one of the less reliable services.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 02, 2018, 09:10:22
For schoolkids & workers in Worcester, this is a key train too


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on July 02, 2018, 12:41:25
At least once a driver has been allocated to this service that doesn't sign the traction (IET), so I would not be at all surprised if that's happened again given our current general incompetence.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 02, 2018, 14:49:02
A new month and a very familiar "favourite" makes its first appearance of the month:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

but don't worry

Quote
Customers' tickets will be valid on the next available services.

and ditto the return 17:38 MIM:PAD


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 02, 2018, 15:41:58
Plus
Quote
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:31 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to this train hitting an obstruction on the line.
Last Updated:02/07/2018 15:29


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on July 02, 2018, 16:17:06
Quote
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.

Spotted this at 08.19 this morning. Just enough time to jump on the bike and get down to Charlbury station to catch the train the hour before. @GWRHelp informs me (https://twitter.com/GWRHelp/status/1013699459182727168) that no, I'm not eligible for a refund of the difference between the SVR I needed to buy, and the CDR I would have bought had the train been running...  >:(


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on July 02, 2018, 19:50:51
Quote
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.

Spotted this at 08.19 this morning. Just enough time to jump on the bike and get down to Charlbury station to catch the train the hour before. @GWRHelp informs me (https://twitter.com/GWRHelp/status/1013699459182727168) that no, I'm not eligible for a refund of the difference between the SVR I needed to buy, and the CDR I would have bought had the train been running...  >:(

That is against the principle that customers should be expected to pay no more because published timetabled trains don't run.    That principle was set in the context of engineering changes pushing trains from off peak to peak timing, but would seem to me to have been stated by my contact in such a way that it also applies in your case.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 02, 2018, 22:28:40
And a slightly curious one:
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17:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:59 was started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault with barriers at a level crossing.
Last Updated:02/07/2018 17:36

The level crossing in question is some distance up the line towards Great Malvern.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 02, 2018, 23:55:13
Not a good day. 12 trains cancelled, wholly or in part. Another 11 ran more than 10 minutes late.

RTT is reporting that the 08:25 from Foregate St to Paddington was cancelled "due to a planning error".


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on July 03, 2018, 08:19:57
Same again today, and it looks like (as I suspected) the ‘planning error’ is allocating a driver who doesn’t sign the traction.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 03, 2018, 08:25:36
Same again today, and it looks like (as I suspected) the ‘planning error’ is allocating a driver who doesn’t sign the traction.

"05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 was terminated at Oxford."

and naturally:

Quote
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

though it's not clear why it's not going to be started from Oxford (not that that would be of any benefit to Cotswold Line passengers)

and a minor irritation - the 0710 MIM:PAD came off the Cotswold Line on time and was promptly put onto the relief track and held for 15 minutes whilst a number of services were put ahead of it (one was clearly a late running Cross Country train).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on July 03, 2018, 09:52:27
That is against the principle that customers should be expected to pay no more because published timetabled trains don't run.    That principle was set in the context of engineering changes pushing trains from off peak to peak timing, but would seem to me to have been stated by my contact in such a way that it also applies in your case.

I'd (naturally!) agree. I suspect GWR would argue that though the 9.41 was cancelled, I could have caught the 10.08 instead, which as a sub-1 hour delay wouldn't be eligible for compensation. That would have pushed my 10.30 meeting in Reading later, so I'd have to return later... and therefore buy an Anytime Return to catch the evening peak. Pretty much damned either way!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on July 03, 2018, 10:11:50
That is against the principle that customers should be expected to pay no more because published timetabled trains don't run.    That principle was set in the context of engineering changes pushing trains from off peak to peak timing, but would seem to me to have been stated by my contact in such a way that it also applies in your case.

I'd (naturally!) agree. I suspect GWR would argue that though the 9.41 was cancelled, I could have caught the 10.08 instead, which as a sub-1 hour delay wouldn't be eligible for compensation. That would have pushed my 10.30 meeting in Reading later, so I'd have to return later... and therefore buy an Anytime Return to catch the evening peak. Pretty much damned either way!

But who's to say that you could push your meeting back?   If I set up a meeting in (say) London with lots of public transport users, I would do so with their travel costs in mind - so allowing off peak travel.   That's what the rail industry encourages, after all - off peak fares to even out travel.    And it is then darned cheeky of them to cancel the first off peak train, giving you Hobson's choice between a higher fare and arriving late for meeting; last minute cancellations do happen occasionally ( :D ) but if known an hour or two ahead, then surely the morally correct approach would be to allow passengers alerted ahead to travel on the earlier train at the rate they would have paid anyway?

I suspect that although you're on very strong moral ground, this would be a tough battle to fight and win, and the logical approach is to pragmatically accept it as one of the 'dirty' results of the current setup.  An input on the principle that passengers should be expected to pay no more for the second best alternative to them in the event of a cancellation may be a good input to the fares consultation though.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 03, 2018, 10:39:50
The problem is fear that everyone intending to travel on that last peak would discover the cancellation & all ask to buy the off-peak fare.

I guess the half-way house solution would be to allow travel on the peak train *if* the off-peak ticket had been bought in advance - so before the cancellation was made. This could be evidenced by the receipt/email confirmation.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on July 03, 2018, 10:59:13
The problem is fear that everyone intending to travel on that last peak would discover the cancellation & all ask to buy the off-peak fare.

I guess the half-way house solution would be to allow travel on the peak train *if* the off-peak ticket had been bought in advance - so before the cancellation was made. This could be evidenced by the receipt/email confirmation.

The solution is to run a reliable service so that there would hardly ever be an issue.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 03, 2018, 11:01:37
of course - we are discussing what could happen when there isn't, aren't we?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on July 03, 2018, 11:08:05
of course - we are discussing what could happen when there isn't, aren't we?

If it was only cancelled once in a franchise, I suspect GWR would have no problem honouring the off peak ticket on the final peak service.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on July 03, 2018, 12:09:26
The problem is fear that everyone intending to travel on that last peak would discover the cancellation & all ask to buy the off-peak fare.



......and there you have GWR's attitude to its customers & customer service in a nutshell.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 03, 2018, 13:39:59
Sorry, that's tosh.

There you have the Brit passenger's attitude to paying it's way. Rip off the seller if it's at all possible. We believe public transport owes us a free ride as we pay taxes


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JayMac on July 03, 2018, 13:55:03
... and there you have the GWR's apologists' attitude. I'm with you TG. Not utter tosh at all.

In the specific circumstances it is good customer service to let a passenger return on a peak service after their days plans have been pushed back by fault of the TOC. Such that they can no longer return at an off peak time.

If the customer asks, then individual permission should be granted. No need to relax the peak restriction for all.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 03, 2018, 14:48:38
Another one bites the dust:

Quote
14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 has been cancelled.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

Last Updated:03/07/2018 14:45


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Timmer on July 03, 2018, 17:26:17
Sorry, that's tosh.

There you have the Brit passenger's attitude to paying it's way. Rip off the seller if it's at all possible. We believe public transport owes us a free ride as we pay taxes
Not with you on this one Chris. The vast majority of the travelling public are okay with paying a fair price for a dependable train service.

Right now it’s the other way round with GWR’s passengers, whether it’s Monday to Friday commuters or weekend travellers, who are being ripped off.

How anyone can justify the daily round of cancellations and short formed services as an acceptable and dependable level of service is beyond me. But that’s exactly what Dft will be doing by rewarding First with another Direct Award in the next few months.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 03, 2018, 17:55:38
It's another poor day today:

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16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:24 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Combe, Finstock, Charlbury, Ascott-under-Wychwood, Shipton, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:03/07/2018 17:22

with the return 19:42 GMV:PAD starting from Oxford.

[later edit] and to top it, the following service (17:22 Paddington to Hereford) is running 23 minutes late!

[even later edit] - the 17:22 was 37 late through Wolvercote Junction and lost more time on the remainder of its journey. A very late home time for those on the 16:22 travelling beyond Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: TaplowGreen on July 03, 2018, 18:34:05
Sorry, that's tosh.

There you have the Brit passenger's attitude to paying it's way. Rip off the seller if it's at all possible. We believe public transport owes us a free ride as we pay taxes
Not with you on this one Chris. The vast majority of the travelling public are okay with paying a fair price for a dependable train service.

Right now it’s the other way round with GWR’s passengers, whether it’s Monday to Friday commuters or weekend travellers, who are being ripped off.

How anyone can justify the daily round of cancellations and short formed services as an acceptable and dependable level of service is beyond me. But that’s exactly what Dft will be doing by rewarding First with another Direct Award in the next few months.


To be fair to Chris B I am sure that he wouldn't have dreamed of making such an extreme, (apparently) bigoted statement without the benefit of being able to cite some rigorous, peer reviewed research which he can share with us or perhaps at least reference, which reflects and supports his position?

I can't imagine anyone would make such a statement based simply on ill informed prejudice or a personal bias or narrative? Surely not!


Over to you Chris! (and it's "British" by the way) :)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on July 04, 2018, 06:17:07
Quote
05:12 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 06:45 will be terminated at Oxford.
Quote
07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 04, 2018, 07:28:41
And a new excuse:
Quote
06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 has been cancelled.
This is due to a late departure while the train was cleaned specially.
Last Updated:04/07/2018 07:20


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on July 04, 2018, 07:31:28
I'm intrigued by the excuse for this one on JourneyCheck 04/07/2018 ;-

06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37
06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 has been cancelled.
This is due to a late departure while the train was cleaned specially.


Title: 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on July 04, 2018, 07:50:59
Didn't think there was any signalling between the two places mentioned apart from St. Erth itself and the line operates with a train staff/ token or is a 'one engine in steam' branch. Hmm.

Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives
Due to signalling staff being taken ill between St Erth and St Ives the line is closed.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 04, 2018, 08:04:20
And a new excuse:
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06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 has been cancelled.
This is due to a late departure while the train was cleaned specially.
Last Updated:04/07/2018 07:20

not forgetting the return run:

Quote
09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a late departure while the train was cleaned specially.
Last Updated:04/07/2018 07:54


Title: Re: 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on July 04, 2018, 08:26:59
Didn't think there was any signalling between the two places mentioned apart from St. Erth itself and the line operates with a train staff/ token or is a 'one engine in steam' branch. Hmm.

Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives
Due to signalling staff being taken ill between St Erth and St Ives the line is closed.

I would suspect the signal box at St Erth is / was closed and no way to get the train onto the branch.  Looks like its running again in the next half hour or so.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 04, 2018, 08:28:24
And a new excuse:
Quote
06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 has been cancelled.
This is due to a late departure while the train was cleaned specially.
Last Updated:04/07/2018 07:20

not forgetting the return run:

Quote
09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a late departure while the train was cleaned specially.
Last Updated:04/07/2018 07:54

last night's pewking fans methinks....


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 05, 2018, 13:02:02
Just for the record:

Quote
11:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 was terminated at Oxford.

This is due to a fault on this train.

and

Quote
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:31 will be started from Oxford.

This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on July 05, 2018, 13:22:12
Just for the record:

Quote
11:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 was terminated at Oxford.

This is due to a fault on this train.

and

Quote
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:31 will be started from Oxford.

This is due to a fault on this train.

So cancelled, then, as far as stations between Hanborough and Worcester are concerned. 

These aren't amendments, are they?  Placing these disruptions in the "amendments" section of journey planner, rather than in "cancellations", is dishonest.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 05, 2018, 14:01:26
Part cancellations (for that is what they are) are probably amendments as far as the whole journey goes. unless you have a part-cancellation option.....


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on July 05, 2018, 14:16:30
Part cancellations (for that is what they are) are probably amendments as far as the whole journey goes. unless you have a part-cancellation option.....

Agreed ... and of course there are part cancellations and there are part cancellations.   A Brighton to Great Malvern train that gets as far as Hove is (in my view) far more of a cancellation than a Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street service that only gets as far as Worcester Shrub Hill.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 05, 2018, 15:02:32
Part cancellations (for that is what they are) are probably amendments as far as the whole journey goes. unless you have a part-cancellation option.....

Anyway, it's no longer a part cancellation!

Quote
13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:31 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

and as I type at 15:00, the 14:21 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street is still sitting at Paddington "due to this train being late from the depot."... and as I finish typing at 15:02 it has just departed!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 05, 2018, 15:14:31
And now it's a different sort of part cancellation!

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14:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 16:44 will no longer call at Slough, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Honeybourne and Pershore.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 40 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
Last Updated:05/07/2018 15:08



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 05, 2018, 16:19:55
It was late from the depot on Tuesday as well.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 05, 2018, 19:04:09
And now it's the turn of the 17:22 to get speeded up by not stopping:
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17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh and Honeybourne.
It is being delayed between Reading and Oxford and is now expected to be 20 minutes late.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:05/07/2018 18:33


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 05, 2018, 20:21:19
And now it's the turn of the 17:22 to get speeded up by not stopping:
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17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh and Honeybourne.
It is being delayed between Reading and Oxford and is now expected to be 20 minutes late.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:05/07/2018 18:33

That's a curious one. It's not unusual for this service to be running late - it's been at least ten minutes (and often much more) through Wolvercote Junction on eight of the last nine days - so it's odd that GWR has decided to cut out stops today. Were there other delays elsewhere on the line that made this a sensible option, or is this a new tool GWR has decided to use to manage its performance figures?

(It's a service I pay attention to as it's the one my partner used to take before she decided driving to and from Reading was a more reliable and flexible option than using GWR trains).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on July 05, 2018, 22:07:04
That's a curious one. It's not unusual for this service to be running late - it's been at least ten minutes (and often much more) through Wolvercote Junction on eight of the last nine days - so it's odd that GWR has decided to cut out stops today. Were there other delays elsewhere on the line that made this a sensible option, or is this a new tool GWR has decided to use to manage its performance figures?

Certainly an unusual decision from the powers that be.  I don’t think there was any attempt to massage performance figures as it still failed to make charter (arriving 19 late at Hereford) and would have counted as a part cancellation due to missing the stops.

The next service was right behind it, (and as a 9-car IET could easily cope with the extra passengers) so I expect that was at least part of the reason for the decision - usually if one peak train from London is late, the next one is as well.

Anyone for Evesham and beyond benefitted from the decision of course.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 06, 2018, 10:17:50
I have to report that yesterday's 1622 ran absolutely bang to time as far as MIM, and possibly further.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JayMac on July 06, 2018, 14:52:25
 Or possibly not. 18 late into Worcester Shrub Hill and beyond.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on July 06, 2018, 15:00:32
That explains its late inward departure from GMV, which was my return from MIM. Still early into Oxford though.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 06, 2018, 17:36:07
Quote
17:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:06/07/2018 17:12

20:59 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 23:30 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:06/07/2018 17:12


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 11, 2018, 18:36:37
By amazing co-incidence, my season ticket expired on 6 July so I'm driving to my local Park & Ride and enjoying the walk in. Certainly quicker and more efficient than the bus replacement but it won't replace the trains once they're back. Meanwhile, on the Cotswold Line:

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17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to Hanborough due 18:50 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

and:

Quote
19:34 Hanborough to Hereford due 21:32 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

as well as a couple of inconveniences:

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Facilities on the 17:50 Hanborough to Great Malvern due 19:22.
Toilet facilities are not available.

Facilities on the 19:43 Great Malvern to Hanborough due 21:15.
Toilet facilities are not available.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 17, 2018, 14:18:30
How it seems to be working at Hanborough is that buses turn up from Oxford, Oxford Parkway & Didcot Parkway at about twenty past the hour to decant passengers for the Worcester/Hereford bound service at half past the hour, and to carry forward passengers from the service that terminates at about quarter past the hour.

So around now, three buses have arrived at Hanborough to fit in with the 12:59 WOS:HND and 14:30 HND:WOS...

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12:59 Worcester Shrub Hill to Hanborough due 14:15 will be cancelled.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

14:30 Hanborough to Worcester Shrub Hill due 15:32 will be cancelled.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 20, 2018, 05:45:50
Getting to the end of the Oxford blockade. Today JourneyCheck has an 'other' entry that may be the shortest replacement possible:
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05:11 Worcester Shrub Hill to Hanborough due 06:13 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

07:02 Hanborough to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
...
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on July 20, 2018, 05:57:46
Getting to the end of the Oxford blockade. Today JourneyCheck has an 'other' entry that may be the shortest replacement possible:
Quote
05:11 Worcester Shrub Hill to Hanborough due 06:13 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

07:02 Hanborough to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
...
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

It's in the same league as Hove to Brighton and Portsmouth and Southsea to Portsmouth Harbour


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 20, 2018, 12:36:39
And another one:
Quote
22:36 Worcester Foregate Street to Moreton-in-Marsh due 23:20 will be reinstated.
It will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

23:59 Moreton-in-Marsh to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:35 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 23, 2018, 17:14:10
I know freshly laid track and hot temperatures are not a good mix, but there is a certain predictability about this one:

Quote
15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a speed restriction because of high track temperatures.

Last Updated:23/07/2018 16:52

with the return run also affected.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 24, 2018, 02:04:43
A few journeys were very late, but that tends not to be reported fully on JourneyCheck.

OTT is reporting

17:22 Paddington - Hereford is shown as being 71 late
17:52 Paddington - Shrub Hill 44 late
15:22 Shrub Hill - Paddington 42 late
15:51 Foregate St - Padd'n also 42 late
15:14 Hereford - Padd'n 85 late


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 25, 2018, 12:09:31
And today the signalling system has failed, probably between Evesham and Norton Junction, though JourneyCheck is a bit confused:
Quote
Cancellations to services between Cheltenham Spa and Worcester Shrub Hill
Due to a fault with the signalling system between Evesham and Great Malvern all lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until 12:00 25/07.
Train services between Cheltenham Spa and Worcester Shrub Hill may be cancelled, delayed or revised.
Further Information
An update will follow within the next 2 hours.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 11:10

Considerable impact on train services:
Quote
08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:40 will be terminated at Evesham.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 09:48

08:23 Southampton Central to Great Malvern due 12:30 will be terminated at Cheltenham Spa.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3. Toilet facilities are not available.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 11:37

09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Evesham.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 09:44

10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 will be terminated at Evesham.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 11:45

10:48 Great Malvern to Brighton due 16:14 will be started from Cheltenham Spa.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 09:33

10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 08:44

11:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 will be terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 11:40

12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Evesham.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 11:45

12:51 Great Malvern to Weymouth due 17:10 will be started from Cheltenham Spa.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3 to Bristol Temple Meads. Toilet facilities are not available.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 11:37

13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:31 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:25/07/2018 11:40

No mention on JourneyCheck of alternative arrangements (like tickets being valid via Birmingham). Last train towards Oxford from Shrub Hill was the 07:37. First one currently shown as not cancelled is the 15:22.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: bobm on July 25, 2018, 13:08:33
Repairs have been effected.  Should see some train movements shortly and possibly reinstatements.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 25, 2018, 20:28:28
Quote
17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.

And the 17:52 Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill and 18:22 Paddington to Hereford both appear to have been delayed to soe degree beyond Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 31, 2018, 05:27:36
Quote
05:12 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 06:45 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:31/07/2018 05:00

07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:56 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:31/07/2018 05:00


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 31, 2018, 17:32:21
Quote
Cancellations to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford
Due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 19:00 31/07.

and amongst the alterations an odd looking one:

Quote
16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:24 will be diverted between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill and terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Combe, Finstock, Charlbury, Ascott-under-Wychwood, Shipton, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern but will call additionally at Cheltenham Spa.

it's strange for such diversions to actually take in Oxford.

update - seems it's quite serious:

Quote
Cancellations to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford

Due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations have been cancelled or diverted via Cheltenham Spa. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice
Network Rail advise the line is likely to be closed until the end of the day due to the structrual damage sustained to the bridge which poses a danger to the safe running of the railway.

GWR services will be diverted between Reading and Worcester Shrub Hill calling at Cheltenham Spa. Services are likely to terminate or start back at Worcester Shrub Hull (sic).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: jmc85 on July 31, 2018, 17:58:26
Does anyone know which bridge was actually struck?

It's a long way between Worcester and Oxford...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 31, 2018, 18:33:37
Neither of the BBC 'local live' websites has any news.

But the 15:52 from Paddington to Moreton made it to Moreton, albeit 35 late.

The National Rail hashtag is "Evesham", so somewhere between Honeybourne and Pershore...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 31, 2018, 18:39:15
OTT currently has

1W33, the 16:22 Paddington - Great Malvern, approaching Stroud

1W02, the 17:22 Paddington - Hereford, between Didcot and Swindon

and 1W31, the 15:22 from Paddington to Great Malvern, heading south from Oxford and about to take the Didcot west curve.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on July 31, 2018, 18:42:58
According to GWR Help on Twitter

Quote
This happened at Evesham. A2: We are currently sourcing road replacement transport and local bus ticket acceptance but this is proving to be difficult due to peak evening rush hour on the roads.

The 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern arrived at MIM 53 late according to Realtime Trains, though JourneyCheck says it

Quote
will be diverted between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill and terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern but will call additionally at Cheltenham Spa.
It is being delayed at Oxford and is now expected to be 120 minutes late.
This is due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge.

which was clearly not the case as it definitely arrived at Hanborough on time!

The 17:52 PAD:WOS is running as far as MIM.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on July 31, 2018, 19:54:14
Quote
The 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern arrived at MIM 53 late according to Realtime Trains, though JourneyCheck says it

Quote
will be diverted between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill and terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern but will call additionally at Cheltenham Spa.
It is being delayed at Oxford and is now expected to be 120 minutes late.
This is due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge.

which was clearly not the case as it definitely arrived at Hanborough on time!

Yes it ran as far as MIM (arriving 7 minutes late) and departed after 50 minutes and running back via Oxford and Stroud


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: bobm on July 31, 2018, 21:44:11
Does anyone know which bridge was actually struck?

It's a long way between Worcester and Oxford...

Blackminster Road between Evesham and Honeybourne.  It’s an overbridge and part of the masonry has been struck and damaged. 


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 01, 2018, 08:15:47
A couple so far today:

Quote
06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Didcot Parkway, Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:01/08/2018 07:53

and the return

Quote
09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

An IET?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 01, 2018, 17:09:48
And for the 31st time this year, the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh fails to make it beyond Oxford:

Quote
5:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.

It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.

Last Updated:01/08/2018 16:42

and, as so often, a very late decision.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 04, 2018, 11:00:47
Today's service (Sat 4 August) has been filleted somewhat:

From Realtime Trains the 07:22 Paddington to Great Malvern

Quote
This service was cancelled throughout due to an issue with the train crew (TG).

and JourneyCheck

Quote
10:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

12:22 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 14:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

14:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

14:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 16:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

17:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 20:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

with the helpful further information that:

Quote
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 06, 2018, 00:10:25
The pattern that I'm seeing over the past month or so is of fewere cancellations, but a lot of late running, especially with down trains in the evening peak.

I'd like to propose the 17:22 Paddington - Hereford as being the least reliable train on the whole of GWR:

Mon Jun 25 : 40 late
Tue Jun 26 : 51 late
Wed Jun 27 : 27 late
Thu Jun 28 : 23 late
Fri Jun 29 : 23 late
Mon Jul 2 : 12 late
Tue Jul 3 : 68 late
Wed Jul 4 : 25 late
Thu Jul 5 : Operated non-stop between Oxford and Evesham - but still 19 late
Fri Jul 6 : Sorry - I don't have a record for this date
Mon Jul 9 - Fri Jul 20 : did not operate on account of the Oxford blockade
Mon Jul 23 : 71 late
Tue Jul 24 : 23 late
Wed Jul 25 : Cancelled Oxford - Hereford
Thu Jul 26 : 37 late
Fri Jul 27 : 47 late
Mon Jul 30 : 24 late
Tue Jul 31 : diverted via Stroud on account of a bridge bash near Evesham. 41 late
Wed Aug 1 : 20 late
Thu Aug 2 : 32 late
Fri Aug 3 : 39 late



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on August 06, 2018, 03:08:24
Impressing piece of recording

Fri Jul 6 : Sorry - I don't have a record for this date

Looking back with Recent Train Times (http://www.recenttraintimes.co.uk), they logged it as 14 late that day.  And they're showing the 18:22 from Paddington with an even worse set of stats.

Link (horrid long URL) ((here)) (http://www.recenttraintimes.co.uk/Home/Search?Op=Srch&Fr=London+Paddington+%28PAD%29&To=Hereford+%28HFD%29&TimTyp=D&TimDay=4p&Days=Wk&TimPer=8w&dtFr=11%2F06%2F2018&dtTo=06%2F08%2F2018&ShwTim=AvAr&MxArCl=40&TOC=All&ArrSta=5&MetAvg=Mea&MetSpr=RT&MxScDu=&MxSvAg=10&MnScCt=2) - which I suspect will work now but drift off / change as time passes, showing last 8 weeks of stats.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on August 06, 2018, 09:59:16
I wonder what happened with the last train home yesterday? The Wilderness Festival organisers were tweeting that it was cancelled:

https://twitter.com/WildernessHQ/status/1026193419109105666

but RTT shows that it ran an hour late:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C46364/2018/08/05

(Ironically an hour's delay would probably have made it more attractive to festival-goers!)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on August 07, 2018, 21:41:56
The pattern that I'm seeing over the past month or so is of fewere cancellations, but a lot of late running, especially with down trains in the evening peak.

I'd like to propose the 17:22 Paddington - Hereford as being the least reliable train on the whole of GWR:

Mon Jun 25 : 40 late
Tue Jun 26 : 51 late
Wed Jun 27 : 27 late
Thu Jun 28 : 23 late
Fri Jun 29 : 23 late
Mon Jul 2 : 12 late
Tue Jul 3 : 68 late
Wed Jul 4 : 25 late
Thu Jul 5 : Operated non-stop between Oxford and Evesham - but still 19 late
Fri Jul 6 : Sorry - I don't have a record for this date
Mon Jul 9 - Fri Jul 20 : did not operate on account of the Oxford blockade
Mon Jul 23 : 71 late
Tue Jul 24 : 23 late
Wed Jul 25 : Cancelled Oxford - Hereford
Thu Jul 26 : 37 late
Fri Jul 27 : 47 late
Mon Jul 30 : 24 late
Tue Jul 31 : diverted via Stroud on account of a bridge bash near Evesham. 41 late
Wed Aug 1 : 20 late
Thu Aug 2 : 32 late
Fri Aug 3 : 39 late
Mon Aug 6 : 25 late
And for Tue Aug 7 : drumroll please,,,, just 12 late

Actually looking back even further, 18th - 25th June was delayed 14, 9, 4, 5 & 8, so wasn't a bad week in comparison

Monday 21st May was the infamous meltdown Monday across the network, although the 17:22 was only 3 minutes late that day and it's been down hill ever since!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 09, 2018, 18:09:27
I should not have mentioned cancellations...
Quote
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:28 was terminated at Oxford.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.
Last Updated:09/08/2018 17:37

18:29 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:05 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:09/08/2018 17:35

20:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:09/08/2018 17:35


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 09, 2018, 21:27:34
The pattern that I'm seeing over the past month or so is of fewere cancellations, but a lot of late running, especially with down trains in the evening peak.

I'd like to propose the 17:22 Paddington - Hereford as being the least reliable train on the whole of GWR:

Mon Jun 25 : 40 late
Tue Jun 26 : 51 late
Wed Jun 27 : 27 late
Thu Jun 28 : 23 late
Fri Jun 29 : 23 late
Mon Jul 2 : 12 late
Tue Jul 3 : 68 late
Wed Jul 4 : 25 late
Thu Jul 5 : Operated non-stop between Oxford and Evesham - but still 19 late
Fri Jul 6 : Sorry - I don't have a record for this date
Mon Jul 9 - Fri Jul 20 : did not operate on account of the Oxford blockade
Mon Jul 23 : 71 late
Tue Jul 24 : 23 late
Wed Jul 25 : Cancelled Oxford - Hereford
Thu Jul 26 : 37 late
Fri Jul 27 : 47 late
Mon Jul 30 : 24 late
Tue Jul 31 : diverted via Stroud on account of a bridge bash near Evesham. 41 late
Wed Aug 1 : 20 late
Thu Aug 2 : 32 late
Fri Aug 3 : 39 late
Mon Aug 6 : 25 late
And for Tue Aug 7 : drumroll please,,,, just 12 late

8 Aug - 39 late
9 Aug - 37 late


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 13, 2018, 16:11:31
Quote
15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:13/08/2018 16:00

and return 18:29 GMV:PAD similarly affected.

Hopefully GWR will managed to get the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh beyond Oxford today...

[later]

I get to Oxford station just after 16:30 and there's an HST on platform 3. Presumably the 15:22 having decanted its passengers. No, it's the 15:22 ready to go through to Great Malvern after all. Fortunately, slightly late so I'm able to catch it.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 14, 2018, 13:22:33
Big problems at Worcester:

Quote
Delays to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford

Due to a fault with the signalling system at Worcester Shrub Hill all lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until 13:30 14/08.

Train services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford may be delayed.


Delays to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford

Due to a fault with the signalling system at Worcester Shrub Hill all lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until 13:30 14/08.

Train services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Hereford may be delayed.

Last Updated:14/08/2018 13:11

I suspect knock-on disruption will run long into the afternoon which is now expected until "until 14:30".


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on August 14, 2018, 14:54:18
Quote
12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 has been delayed previously and is now 98 minutes late from Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.
Last Updated:14/08/2018 14:26[/i]

Quote
17:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:06
17:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:14/08/2018 13:56[/i]

Plenty disruption today

Noticed a couple of turbo units at Littleton and Badsey LC on both up and down services around the middle of the day today


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 16, 2018, 08:07:25
A nice big hole in this morning's peak service:

Quote
05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford.
It is being delayed at Hereford.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Quote
07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault on this train.

It'll be cosy on the following two coach Turbo which "will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street."


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 16, 2018, 10:51:12
A nice big hole in this morning's peak service:

Quote
05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford.
It is being delayed at Hereford.
This is due to a fault on this train.


If there's a fault on the train, how does a diversion via Stroud help?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on August 16, 2018, 13:56:11
I was wondering that. I saw that the service was 35 minutes late leaving Hereford - could the diversion have been to avoid fouling up other services on the single-track sections of the line?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 16, 2018, 14:11:33
Meanwhile, we have problems with signals:

Quote
09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 has been delayed previously and is now 80 minutes late from Charlbury.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:16/08/2018 12:46

10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:16/08/2018 12:24

11:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 will be terminated at Reading.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:16/08/2018 11:51

12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 was terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:16/08/2018 13:01

13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:31 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:16/08/2018 11:51

An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 13:59 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 16:31.
Last Updated:16/08/2018 13:20

15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:28 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Last Updated:16/08/2018 12:24

According to RTT, the problems with the 09:54 Great Malvern - Paddington seem to have been at Charlbury, while the 10:22 Paddington - Hereford seems to have been at Didcot (was it held there in case it needed to go via Stroud?).

The 09:54 Great Malvern - Paddington has just given up at Reading, 103 late.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 16, 2018, 16:02:10
Not on JourneyCheck as at 16:00 but National Rail Enquiries has the 16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern showing as cancelled. @GWRHelp on Twitter says it's "not running because of a fault on board".

So that's another faulty IET cancellation on the Cotswold Line today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on August 16, 2018, 16:42:18
Not on JourneyCheck as at 16:00 but National Rail Enquiries has the 16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern showing as cancelled. @GWRHelp on Twitter says it's "not running because of a fault on board".

So that's another faulty IET cancellation on the Cotswold Line today.

RTT lists as "This service was cancelled throughout due to a mishap (MY)." Note sure what qualifies as 'a mishap' ...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on August 16, 2018, 16:46:03
Welcome to the forum, Fladpass

TyrellCheck has it down to 'no set'.  Whether that's down to a 'mishap' or just general IET train unavailability I don't know, though the latter is more likely.  This train has been much more reliable of late than in the first few months of the year when it was often cancelled a couple of times a week.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on August 16, 2018, 16:57:58
Thanks! Yes, it's been my twice-weekly ride home for the last six months or so (though through choice not today, as luck would have it) and it's generally been spot on


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 17, 2018, 16:18:57
Friday Aug 17:
Quote
18:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 21:32 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:17/08/2018 15:26


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 17, 2018, 17:56:37
And the truncated 18:22 has now disappeared from JourneyCheck.

A case of "now you don't see it, now you do"?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: bobm on August 17, 2018, 18:48:28
That is because the 18:22 has been re-instated in its entirety.   

It’s something Journeycheck should be better at showing rather than just deleting the cancellation or alteration.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on August 19, 2018, 11:07:27
 
Quote
08:36 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:51
08:36 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:51 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:19/08/2018 06:25
[/i]

 
Quote
13:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 17:05
13:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 17:05 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:19/08/2018 06:29

Quote
16:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:05
16:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:05 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:19/08/2018 06:29


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 20, 2018, 07:59:45
Quote
07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 22, 2018, 08:04:25
From Realtime Trains:

Quote
1P07 0447 Hereford to London Paddington

This service was cancelled throughout due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 24, 2018, 07:53:26
Another of GWR's regular easy "fixes":

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07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

Third time in 8 days this service has failed to run along the Cotswold Line.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on August 24, 2018, 09:06:28
Yep, if it’s more than 15 late and runs through it knocks the Cotswold Line out of kilter for quite a while, so better to stop it at Oxford as it’s rare to have anyone on it after Oxford so just the return journey which is affected.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 24, 2018, 10:05:54
...so just the return journey which is affected.

Which starts to get a little tedious for those "affected" who use it for their regular commute when it becomes a weekly or twice weekly event!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on August 24, 2018, 11:09:45
It is the most sensible decision, the same applies to the afternoon Moreton train which often suffers the same fate for the same reason.  Sadly that fact won’t change until more of the line is redoubled.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on August 24, 2018, 15:51:23
It is the most sensible decision, the same applies to the afternoon Moreton train which often suffers the same fate for the same reason.  Sadly that fact won’t change until more of the line is redoubled.

alternatively, the situation would be improved if the down services kept time better and didn't miss their path over the single line


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on August 24, 2018, 18:31:01
Can’t disagree with you there!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 27, 2018, 06:11:42
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05:11 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 07:25 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading.
It is being delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:27/08/2018 05:34

As of 06:11, RTT is reporting that it has yet to leave Shrub Hill.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: CMRail on August 27, 2018, 12:08:34
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05:11 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 07:25 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading.
It is being delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:27/08/2018 05:34

As of 06:11, RTT is reporting that it has yet to leave Shrub Hill.

Cancelled throughout, train fault.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 30, 2018, 08:06:57
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05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Last Updated:30/08/2018 03:24


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 31, 2018, 08:19:46
A couple this morning:

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06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Last Updated:31/08/2018 08:04

and the return

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09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

edit to change return from starting from Oxford to full cancellation.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: adc82140 on August 31, 2018, 13:34:34
Looking back over this thread, thare are fewer posts than before (used to be daily)- can we deduce that the service is getting slightly better? (The emphasis is on the "slightly") The cancellations now seem to be more due to train faults rather than staffing issues. Are the recent train faults IETs or HSTs?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on August 31, 2018, 15:57:59
There was much disruption yesterday morning (30.08.2018) following the sad incident between Didcot and Oxford.  None of the cancellations of OWW line services was posted onto this topic, but I counted at least 4 cancellations on JourneyCheck, even though some of them were classed as amendments because they ran between some stations at the London end of the route.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on August 31, 2018, 18:52:31
This one is an IET (and going to be cosy for a Friday as far as it goes):

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17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford but will call additionally at Didcot Parkway.
It is being delayed at London Paddington.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 9 coaches instead of 5.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on August 31, 2018, 20:36:17
Looking back over this thread, thare are fewer posts than before (used to be daily)- can we deduce that the service is getting slightly better? (The emphasis is on the "slightly") The cancellations now seem to be more due to train faults rather than staffing issues. Are the recent train faults IETs or HSTs?

Yes, there has been a slight improvement, mostly due to Worcester depot finally getting everyone trained up.  Bristol depot are also covering much more work than has historically been the case whilst Oxford drivers go through the IET course.  Not out of the woods by any means, but better than it was. 

The key for the next few months is whether enough drivers at Oxford can be trained in time to cover the extra IET operated services that are commencing shortly as more HSTs depart.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on September 01, 2018, 22:59:24
The 11:22 today from Paddington was running late due to a sick HST. We never made up the lost time and the train was cancelled after Shrub Hill. The tourists I sat across the aisle from were very impressed with 1st. They had done the trip on "another train type" and hadn't enjoyed that one as much because it wasn't as luxurious on board. Interestingly the 10:22 also had a similar delay. Both fared better than the 06:22 which was cancelled at Paddington


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on September 03, 2018, 08:14:08
Although, as has been mentioned, the service seems to be getting better, over the last couple of weeks, more cancellations and amendments have been appearing in the morning peak service towards London. Today's example being:

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04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will no longer call at Pershore, Kingham and Hanborough.
It has been delayed at Hereford and is now 18 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.

From experience of previous years, it's as we get into October, and poor rail conditions start to become an issue, that the service starts to deteriorate significantly.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on September 03, 2018, 10:13:36
I am hopeful that autumn won’t be as bad as previous years along the route, as significant vegetation removal has taken place since last year.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on September 03, 2018, 18:49:06
Pretty much a cancellation:

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18:29 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:05 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.

It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to train crew being delayed.

Last Updated:03/09/2018 18:44


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 03, 2018, 20:38:55
Followed by the rather curious
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19:32 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 21:53
An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 19:32 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 21:53.
Last Updated:03/09/2018 19:37


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on September 05, 2018, 15:34:28
Just turned up on JourneyCheck ten minutes after service was due to depart:

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15:22 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 17:28 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Last Updated:05/09/2018 15:31



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 06, 2018, 12:35:58
Thursday Sep 6:
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10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 will be terminated at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a problem with line-side equipment.
Last Updated:06/09/2018 11:50

15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:28 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a problem with line-side equipment.
Last Updated:06/09/2018 11:50


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on September 13, 2018, 20:36:03
Things are certainly getting better. However:

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17:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:06 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

and

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20:59 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 23:36 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

The wording of the 17:52 and timing - "Last Updated:13/09/2018 18:11" - suggests it was a late cancellation.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on September 14, 2018, 18:18:07
No line updates on JourneyCheck but a speed restriction due to defective track between Oxford and Evesham is causing some degree of congestion including so far:

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15:22 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 17:28 will no longer call at Slough.
It has been delayed between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford and is now 45 minutes late.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.

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15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:59 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Slough and London Paddington.
It has been delayed at Charlbury and is now 45 minutes late.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.

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17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:03 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Slough and London Paddington.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.

outward bound 15:50 PAD:MIM surprisingly going beyond Oxford and arriving at MIM 28 minutes late

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19:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:52 will be started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Slough.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.

later update

Line update now on JourneyCheck:

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Delays to services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill
Due to a speed restriction over defective track between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill trains have to run at reduced speed.
Train services running through these stations may be delayed by up to 45 minutes. Disruption is expected until 20:30 14/09.
Last Updated:14/09/2018 18:18

and the 15:14 Hereford to Paddington has just come through Wolvercote Junction 58 minutes late having been almost on time at Ascott-under-Wychwood.

Days like this certainly support the case for further redoubling at the eastern end of the line as per IndustryInsider's new thread today.

further update

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18:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 21:32 will be diverted between Reading and Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham and Pershore but will call additionally at Didcot Parkway.
It is being delayed between Reading and Worcester Shrub Hill and is now expected to be 15 minutes late.
This is due to urgent repairs to the track.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 8.
Last Updated:14/09/2018 18:53

another update

and for those who wanted to go beyond Oxford on the 18:22...

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19:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:52 will be started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Slough.
It will be delayed at Reading and is expected to be 25 minutes late.
This is due to a speed restriction over defective track.

and has just left Reading 34 minutes late, with further delays of up to 45 minutes expected beyond Hanborough.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on September 15, 2018, 00:15:20
The condition of the track along the Cotswold Line is truly shocking in places.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 15, 2018, 11:25:27
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14:35 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 17:26 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:15/09/2018 09:57

15:13 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:27 will be terminated at Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:15/09/2018 10:13

16:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 19:50
Facilities on the 16:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 19:50.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.
Last Updated:15/09/2018 05:54

19:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:15/09/2018 10:12

20:20 Hereford to London Paddington due 23:50.
Facilities on the 20:20 Hereford to London Paddington due 23:50.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.
Last Updated:15/09/2018 05:54

22:41 Great Malvern to Evesham due 23:19 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:15/09/2018 10:12


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 16, 2018, 11:34:22
Sunday September 16:
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16:37 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:23 will be started from Reading.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
Last Updated:16/09/2018 04:16

18:37 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 21:07 will be started from Reading.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
Last Updated:16/09/2018 04:16


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 18, 2018, 08:00:02
Tuesday September 18:
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06:42 Hereford to London Paddington due 09:46 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading.
It will no longer call at Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford.
It has been previously delayed, is being further delayed between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading and is now expected to be 80 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:18/09/2018 07:56


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on September 20, 2018, 15:43:11
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13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.
Last Updated:20/09/2018 12:36

I must have missed the electrification between Worcester's two stations …

On a more serious note: any idea what this relates to?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on September 20, 2018, 15:44:18
probably delays under the wires on its outward journey


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on September 20, 2018, 15:59:35
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13:55 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 16:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.
Last Updated:20/09/2018 12:36

I must have missed the electrification between Worcester's two stations …

On a more serious note: any idea what this relates to?

probably delays under the wires on its outward journey

Yes ... late running trains at Chippenham headed west too at around lunch time - probably the train was turned around at Shrub Hill rather than Foregate Street to get it back on time.  The incoming 11:22 from London got in at 14:15 rather than the 13:40 it was due. Set off back at 14:23 (supposed to be 13:59) ... down to just 15 late at present east of Didcot.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on September 21, 2018, 10:21:25
A knock on from the signalling problems between Didcot and Swindon this morning:

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09:21 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 11:31 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.

12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on September 25, 2018, 18:42:49
Probably something routine but for the record:

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18:29 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:05 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern and Malvern Link.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Only reason I mention it is that the outward bound 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern lost 25 minutes between Wolvercote Junction and Ascott-under-Wychwood (arriving at Hanborough on time), and the reason given on Realtime Trains was rather more unusual:

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This service was cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and Great Malvern due to an unexpected number of passengers joining/alighting the service (RB)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on September 27, 2018, 08:19:59
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Delays to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Evesham

Following a late running freight train between Worcester Shrub Hill and Evesham all lines are disrupted.
Train services running through these stations are returning to normal. Disruption is expected until 08:45 27/09.

Delays on some London bound peak services including:

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04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 24 minutes late.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today.

05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 will no longer call at Charlbury and Hanborough.
It has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 20 minutes late.
This is due to a late running freight train.

and also the 05:11 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington departed WOS 24 late, arriving at Paddington 14 late.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on September 27, 2018, 13:20:35
I was on the 05:28, and remarkably it went from 15' late at M-in-M to 2' late at Paddington, pickup 12' by virtue of the 'express' run between M-in-M and Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on September 27, 2018, 15:22:22
I was on the 05:28, and remarkably it went from 15' late at M-in-M to 2' late at Paddington, pickup 12' by virtue of the 'express' run between M-in-M and Oxford.

Those waiting for that train on the platform at Hanborough said it went through very quickly indeed!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 01, 2018, 08:27:56
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05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 has been cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train.

Additional Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.

For some, the next available train being:

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07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 has been delayed at Hanborough and is now 24 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.

The fault being a door which wouldn't close.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 07, 2018, 12:48:24
Today JourneyCheck features an extra call at one of the halts:
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10:37 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:06 will call additionally at Oxford.
It will be starting late from London Paddington and is expected to be 1 minute late.
This is due to a problem currently under investigation.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on October 07, 2018, 14:25:06
Yes, obviously a little hiccup in the scheduling as that’s not the only train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 07, 2018, 19:04:15
For the record, some disruption yesterday due to a broken down train including:

07:44 Great Malvern to Paddington terminated at Charlbury
08:22 Paddington to Hereford terminated at Oxford
08:43 Great Malvern to Paddington departed Oxford 54 minutes late
11:22 Paddington to Great Malvern cancelled
12:13 Hereford to Paddington started from Oxford
14:35 Great Malvern to Paddington cancelled



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on October 07, 2018, 21:30:44
The first of those trains listed being the cause, as a bird managed to damage a brake pipe on a HST between Charlbury and Hanborough.  Fortunately it could still be driven from the cab at the opposite end, so it returned to Charlbury dropped off the passengers and then continued empty to Worcester.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 10, 2018, 08:10:45
Seems GWR have found a new way to make up lost time on late running services:

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05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 will no longer call at Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

I know, greater good and all that... Of course, if the above service is late through Moreton-in-Marsh, it means the following 07:10 MIM:PAD - the train Charlbury and Hanborough passengers will need to catch instead - will also be departing late from MIM!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on October 10, 2018, 09:17:19
Leaf fall season  ;)

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06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
It has been delayed at Kingham and is now 24 minutes late.
This is due to an obstruction on the track
Last Updated:10/10/2018 09:07
.

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07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:15 has been delayed at Oxford and is now 2 minutes late.
This is due to a train hitting an obstruction on the line.
Last Updated:10/10/2018 08:58


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on October 10, 2018, 09:19:14
sounds more like tree fall season....


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 10, 2018, 13:58:13
Again, for the record:

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Alterations to services at Worcester Foregate Street
 
Due to a fault with the signalling system at Worcester Foregate Street trains have to run at reduced speed on all lines.

Train services running through this station may be delayed by up to 25 minutes or revised. Disruption is expected until 15:30 10/10.

Some degree of disruption including:

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11:22 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 13:44 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.

and the return 13:55 starting from WOS

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12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 has been delayed previously and is now 40 minutes late from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 12, 2018, 07:55:33
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07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: ChrisB on October 12, 2018, 14:57:07
Needless to say, the outward from PAD to form this was cancelled too.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on October 12, 2018, 16:28:15
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16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

Only minutes before departure time - train was at the platform at PAD.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 12, 2018, 19:26:23
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16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

Only minutes before departure time - train was at the platform at PAD.

Due to

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Due to a safety inspection of the track between Oxford and Evesham the line towards Worcester Shrub Hill is blocked.

Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 22:00 12/10.

In addition to the above, the 15:22 PAD:GMV and 15:50 PAD:MIM were terminated at Oxford and

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17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:24 will be diverted between Reading and Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham and Pershore but will call additionally at Didcot Parkway and Swindon.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 23 minutes late.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track.

Onward travel from Oxford was being sourced but I don't know how quickly that was sorted as I made my own alternative arrangements.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on October 15, 2018, 17:21:42
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19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

The 16:22 PAD:GMV (which I'm guessing forms the above) didn't make it beyond Reading:

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This service was cancelled between Reading and Great Malvern due to a problem with the brakes (MN).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 15, 2018, 18:40:05
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19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

The 16:22 PAD:GMV (which I'm guessing forms the above) didn't make it beyond Reading:

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This service was cancelled between Reading and Great Malvern due to a problem with the brakes (MN).

And after some big delays this morning - both the 0528 HFD:PAD & 0623 WOF:DID (which terminated at Oxford) over 30 minutes late off the Cotswold Line - and the total wipe-out of Friday's peak down service from Oxford, we have the first signs of another GWR autumn "service"!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on October 16, 2018, 07:19:35
The 05:28 HFD:PAD started this morning from WOS, and is currently around 20 minutes late and running direct from MIM to OXF to try to make up some time. It's an HST rather than IET9.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 16, 2018, 07:23:22
The 05:28 HFD:PAD started this morning from WOS, and is currently around 20 minutes late and running direct from MIM to OXF to try to make up some time. It's an HST rather than IET9.

Which is delaying the 07:10 MIM:PAD which is the service Charlbury and Hanborough passengers will now have to catch.

And earlier the 05:11 WOS:PAD  was cancelled due to a broken down train.


Later edit - the 07:10 MIM:PAD arrived at Hanborough 20 minutes late. Given the lateness of the decision to run the 05:28 HFD:PAD fast from MIM to Oxford, customers for the cancelled service at Hanborough were waiting for almost 40 minutes in the drizzle. At least yesterday the 07:10 was able to run ahead of the 05:28.

and consequently the 06:53 WOF:DID was terminated at Oxford for the second day running, arriving just over half an hour late.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 17, 2018, 07:54:08
The overhead wire problems at Paddington are affecting the whole GWR network but, for the record, the impact on this morning's Cotswold Line peak is:

05:11 WOS:PAD "was cancelled throughout due to a problem with the overhead line power collection equipment (M1)"

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04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 will be cancelled.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.

05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 has been cancelled.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.

06:19 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 08:28 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.

06:42 Hereford to London Paddington due 09:46 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.

06:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:37 was started from Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington and Slough.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.

07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be cancelled.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.

I was a little surprised the 06:19 WOS:PAD (which I think usually starts from Hereford at 05:28) didn't stop additionally at Kingham bearing in mind the earlier cancellations.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 17, 2018, 15:18:52
And impact on the early afternoon peak services from Oxford:

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15:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.

15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.

17:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 19, 2018, 16:02:13
After the earlier excitements of the week, a more regular friend appears:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:03 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

34th time this year this service has been cancelled in terms of Cotswold Line running and third time in six days.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on October 21, 2018, 17:24:45
Currently on the 15:32 IET from Hereford to London. The train is only 5 carriages which is a short formation and it should be 10. I notice that the journey check is not showing this fact. It's fairly packed as a result even in 1st where people are standing in the carriage and the vestibule. Seat reservations are not working due to their only being 5 carriages and there's only one working toilet.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: CMRail on October 21, 2018, 18:23:52
Currently on the 15:32 IET from Hereford to London. The train is only 5 carriages which is a short formation and it should be 10. I notice that the journey check is not showing this fact. It's fairly packed as a result even in 1st where people are standing in the carriage and the vestibule. Seat reservations are not working due to their only being 5 carriages and there's only one working toilet.

10 cars do not run on the Cots. If it was supposed to be a nine car then I’d find that weird for a Sunday afternoon off peak. Nevermind.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on October 21, 2018, 18:29:16
Sorry I meant a 9 car (or HST) but my brain was on automatic.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on October 21, 2018, 21:46:01
Currently on the 15:32 IET from Hereford to London. The train is only 5 carriages which is a short formation and it should be 10. I notice that the journey check is not showing this fact. It's fairly packed as a result even in 1st where people are standing in the carriage and the vestibule. Seat reservations are not working due to their only being 5 carriages and there's only one working toilet.

That service is actually booked to be a 5-car IET at the moment.  It should be a 9-car though so hopefully will be when more 9-cars are in service.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 22, 2018, 05:21:59
Monday October 22
Quote
04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 has been cancelled.
This is due to engineering works not being finished on time.
Last Updated:22/10/2018 04:53


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 22, 2018, 07:57:27
and also:

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07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

Helpfully, National Rail Enquires said this service was only running from Moreton-in-Marsh to Oxford, finally correcting itself shortly after 07:30!

As always, as soon as the autumn leaf fall begins, so does the dive in GWR performance and reliability along the Cotswold Line.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on October 22, 2018, 08:09:23
As always, as soon as the autumn leaf fall begins, so does the dive in GWR performance and reliability along the Cotswold Line.

Most of the delays and cancellations have been unrelated to leaf fall so far - just the usual incompetances we've come to expect in the last year or so.  I am expecting a much better leaf fall season than normal on this particular route as it has been blitzed over the last year with vegetation and tree removals at many locations along the route, despite attempts from some to stop Network Rail from doing so.  This time last year it was like a jungle, so much overdue.

That's not to say it will be perfect though as I'm sure there will still be some delays, and still a few locations where the vegetation has yet to be tackled, but hopefully HSTs stalling on Campden Bank and such like will now be prevented.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 22, 2018, 08:25:37
As always, as soon as the autumn leaf fall begins, so does the dive in GWR performance and reliability along the Cotswold Line.

Most of the delays and cancellations have been unrelated to leaf fall so far - just the usual incompetances we've come to expect in the last year or so.  I am expecting a much better leaf fall season than normal on this particular route as it has been blitzed over the last year with vegetation and tree removals at many locations along the route, despite attempts from some to stop Network Rail from doing so.  This time last year it was like a jungle, so much overdue.

That's not to say it will be perfect though as I'm sure there will still be some delays, and still a few locations where the vegetation has yet to be tackled, but hopefully HSTs stalling on Campden Bank and such like will now be prevented.

Possibly not the best analogy to have used! I didn't mean to directly link leaf fall with the service going to pot as I know a lot of work has gone on to address that particular problem. However, the level of service does seem to nose dive at this time of year and 2018 seems to be no exception, albeit due to over-running engineering works, track defects, test trains pulling down overhead lines etc. However, a number of HSTs have reappeared on some morning services in recent weeks so maybe there will be a Campden Bank swansong to look forward to...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: 1st fan on October 22, 2018, 22:30:24
Currently on the 15:32 IET from Hereford to London. The train is only 5 carriages which is a short formation and it should be 10. I notice that the journey check is not showing this fact. It's fairly packed as a result even in 1st where people are standing in the carriage and the vestibule. Seat reservations are not working due to their only being 5 carriages and there's only one working toilet.

That service is actually booked to be a 5-car IET at the moment.  It should be a 9-car though so hopefully will be when more 9-cars are in service.
Thanks for letting me know although that sucks for regular users of the service. Better than a Thames Turbo I suppose but still not great for all those who were left standing.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on October 23, 2018, 08:10:26
The 07:10 MIM:PAD won't be getting you to London yet again!

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07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 8. First class not available.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on October 25, 2018, 13:29:48
 
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10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47
10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford.
This is due to a bridge being damaged.
Last Updated:25/10/2018 12:03

I haven't looked - but guess there was extensive service disruption earlier today following this bridge strike


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 25, 2018, 18:59:15
Quote
18:29 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:05 was terminated at Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:25/10/2018 18:51


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 26, 2018, 06:13:10
Quote
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 has been cancelled.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
Last Updated:26/10/2018 06:06

No mention of the 08:25 return working from Foregate St to Paddington.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on October 26, 2018, 07:22:24
Quote
05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 has been cancelled.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
Last Updated:26/10/2018 06:06

No mention of the 08:25 return working from Foregate St to Paddington.

Different category

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08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a points failure.
Last Updated:26/10/2018 06:08

Points failure in the depot??


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on October 26, 2018, 17:47:25
Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:29
 
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:29 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Likely due to 16:22 1W33 PAD:GMV giving up the ghost at Oxford:

Quote
This service was cancelled between Oxford and Great Malvern due to a problem with the train (M8).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 27, 2018, 08:38:50
From JourneyCheck:

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Alterations to services between Worcester Foregate Street and Worcester Shrub Hill
Due to a fault with the signalling system between Worcester Foregate Street and Worcester Shrub Hill the line is blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be delayed by up to 30 minutes or revised. Disruption is expected until 10:30 27/10.
Last Updated:27/10/2018 08:27

At 08:36

07:13 Hereford - Paddington yet to arrive at Foregate St (due 07:57)
05:18 Paddington - Great Malvern yet to arrive at Shrub Hill (due 07:43)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 27, 2018, 13:02:24
According to JourneyCheck, the signalling is not having a good day:

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Delays to services at Ascott-Under-Wychwood
Due to a fault with the signalling system at Ascott-under-Wychwood trains have to run at reduced speed on the line towards Oxford.
Train services running through this station may be delayed by up to 15 minutes. Disruption is expected until 16:00 27/10.
Last Updated:27/10/2018 11:06

Meanwhile, the earlier problems seem to have involved a track circuit between Shrub Hill and Foregate St.
According to RTT:

05:18 from Paddington - terminated at Shrub Hill.
Return working, 08:43 Great Malvern - Paddington, started from Shrub Hill.

07:13 from Hereford arrived at Foregate St on time, but left at 09:21, some 82 late.
Further delay at Charlbury. Arrived Paddington 107 late.

06:22 Paddington - Great Malvern terminated at Shrub Hill, arriving 15 late.
Return working, 09:45 Great Malvern - Paddington, started from Shrub Hill.

07:22 Paddington - Great Malvern terminated at Moreton.
Returned as a short working to Oxford.
10:45 Great Malvern - Paddington started from Oxford.

08:22 Paddington - Hereford ran normally. Through Foregate St at 10:49.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: CyclingSid on October 28, 2018, 09:16:09
Trip to London yesterday. Got on a Cotswold Line train at Reading at about 11:00, which had been due in about 09:30. Further delayed by a door fault.

At OOC the TM advised passengers who boarded before Oxford to retain tickets and claim. Presumably another job for the driver if they do make them truely DOO.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 29, 2018, 09:08:39
Quote
06:42 Hereford to London Paddington due 09:46 will be cancelled.
This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires.
Further Information
This train service cancellation has arisen as a result of the level of disruption and displacement of carriages which occurred following the damage to the overhead wires near Paddington on Sunday.
Last Updated:29/10/2018 04:11


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on October 29, 2018, 14:44:41
Quote
12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27
12:09 Hereford to London Paddington due 15:27 was terminated at Evesham.
It will no longer call at Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading, Slough and London Paddington.
It has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 38 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.

HST – not sure what the fault is/was


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 30, 2018, 04:03:20
Quote
05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a broken down train.
Last Updated:30/10/2018 03:49


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 30, 2018, 09:41:02
Quote
07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:15 will be terminated at Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:30/10/2018 09:16

10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:30/10/2018 09:18


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 30, 2018, 16:32:42
Quote
15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It is being delayed at London Paddington.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.
Last Updated:30/10/2018 16:04

17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:03 will be started from Oxford.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Further Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.
Last Updated:30/10/2018 16:12



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 31, 2018, 07:03:00
Wednesday October 31:
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05:47 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 08:15 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:31/10/2018 06:19

08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:31/10/2018 06:19


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on October 31, 2018, 20:02:50
The following (Moreton-starter) turbo was less crammed than I'd feared.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 03, 2018, 17:54:33
Saturday November 3:

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15:13 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Additional Information
Customers for Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern and Malvern Link are advised to board the 15:39 Hereford to Birmingham New Street West Midlands Railway service.

Customers travelling to Worcester Shrub Hill and stations through to London Paddington are advised to board the 15:39 Hereford to Birmingham New Street service and alight at Worcester Foregate Street and wait for the 16:57 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington service.

Last Updated:03/11/2018 13:10

Outward journey was the 10:22 from Paddington. Left 41 late. 59 late by the time it was cancelled beyond Shrub Hill.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 04, 2018, 17:29:36
Couple of others from earlier in the weekend

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1W45 2320 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh
Great Western Railway service departing on 2nd November 2018

This service was cancelled between Oxford and Moreton-in-Marsh due to an issue with the train crew (TH).

Quote
1P55 1450 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington
Great Western Railway service departing on 3rd November 2018

This service was cancelled throughout due to a problem with the traction equipment (MD).

The outward bound 1W33 1222 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh having broken down somewhere between Ascott-under-Wychwood and Moreton-in-Marsh


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 04, 2018, 17:51:36
And today we're being inconvenienced:
Quote
Facilities on the 14:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:10.
Toilet facilities are not available.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Additional Information
We apologise for the inconvenience this may cause.
Last Updated:04/11/2018 14:50
This is supposed to be an HST or an IET - but I think we're talking a Turbo here.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on November 04, 2018, 19:10:08
It's down as a turbo today


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 05, 2018, 12:02:50
Quote
10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:05/11/2018 10:23

15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:05/11/2018 10:23


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 05, 2018, 14:14:49
Quote
17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:24
Facilities on the 17:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:24.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.
Last Updated:05/11/2018 12:29

21:51 Hereford to London Paddington due 01:17
Facilities on the 21:51 Hereford to London Paddington due 01:17.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.
Last Updated:05/11/2018 12:29


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 08, 2018, 08:17:01
Maybe there's a better place to mention this but a couple of short-formations this morning that didn't appear on JourneyCheck.

The 05:28 Hereford to Paddington and 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington both five coach IETs instead of the usual nine.

Certainly five coaches on the 07:10 are more than enough for the Cotswold Line part of the journey but it did seem that capacity would have struggled beyond Oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on November 08, 2018, 13:10:45
I was on the 05:28 HFD:PAD - standing everywhere past Reading (and possibly past Oxford, though it was at Reading I saw the overflow. Seat reservations in the bin as well - didn't affect me, but irksome for pax who've got one then to find it's worth nowt.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 09, 2018, 07:26:48
Quote
07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:15
Facilities on the 07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:15.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 6.
Last Updated:09/11/2018 06:30

 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29
Facilities on the 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:29.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
Last Updated:09/11/2018 06:30


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 13, 2018, 07:43:32
Quote
  04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52
04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 has been previously delayed, has been further delayed at Charlbury and is now 15 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.
Last Updated:13/11/2018 07:28

05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28
05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:13/11/2018 04:25


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 13, 2018, 09:21:26
Yesterday (12 November) the 13:22 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street train departed Paddington 9 minutes late due to crew being delayed on an earlier service. This service lost further time & was 16 late at Evesham. Sometimes in such circumstances it's held there, & subsequently terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill, to let the 15:22 WOS:PAD service on to the single track first. Yesterday was not such a case.

The result was significant delays on the following three London bound services: the 15:22 WOS:PAD ran non-stop from Oxford and arrived at Paddington 30 minutes late; the 15:51 WOF:PAD arrived at Paddington 25 late and the 15:14 Hereford to Paddington 19 late.

On the other hand, the planners did ensure that the down services were largely unaffected, even running the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh through to the Cotswolds.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on November 13, 2018, 17:37:53
Yesterday (12 November) the 13:22 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street train departed Paddington 9 minutes late due to crew being delayed on an earlier service. This service lost further time & was 16 late at Evesham. Sometimes in such circumstances it's held there, & subsequently terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill, to let the 15:22 WOS:PAD service on to the single track first. Yesterday was not such a case.

The result was significant delays on the following three London bound services: the 15:22 WOS:PAD ran non-stop from Oxford and arrived at Paddington 30 minutes late; the 15:51 WOF:PAD arrived at Paddington 25 late and the 15:14 Hereford to Paddington 19 late.

On the other hand, the planners did ensure that the down services were largely unaffected, even running the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh through to the Cotswolds.

Which only goes to show that not re-doubling the whole Cotswold line was a mistake.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on November 13, 2018, 20:45:46
Yesterday (12 November) the 13:22 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street train departed Paddington 9 minutes late due to crew being delayed on an earlier service. This service lost further time & was 16 late at Evesham. Sometimes in such circumstances it's held there, & subsequently terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill, to let the 15:22 WOS:PAD service on to the single track first. Yesterday was not such a case.

The result was significant delays on the following three London bound services: the 15:22 WOS:PAD ran non-stop from Oxford and arrived at Paddington 30 minutes late; the 15:51 WOF:PAD arrived at Paddington 25 late and the 15:14 Hereford to Paddington 19 late.

On the other hand, the planners did ensure that the down services were largely unaffected, even running the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh through to the Cotswolds.

Which only goes to show that not re-doubling the whole Cotswold line was a mistake.

I Think they are going too next year, just needs new junction at norton junction.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on November 13, 2018, 20:56:12
Yesterday (12 November) the 13:22 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street train departed Paddington 9 minutes late due to crew being delayed on an earlier service.

<snip tale of woe>


Which only goes to show that not re-doubling the whole Cotswold line was a mistake.

I Think they are going to next year, just needs new junction at norton junction.


Specifically the problem will be at Norton/Worcestershire Parkway. At the very least they need to re-double the few chains - it is literally less than half a mile - to Parkway (and obviously have two platforms on the London line). If they don't, trains will be held at Shrub Hill for late-running trains from London, and southbound connections to Cheltenham will be missed. If Parkway is to work, it needs to be an interchange station - not two stations that happen to be in the same place on different lines.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on November 13, 2018, 21:12:03
Specifically the problem will be at Norton/Worcestershire Parkway. At the very least they need to re-double the few chains - it is literally less than half a mile - to Parkway (and obviously have two platforms on the London line). If they don't, trains will be held at Shrub Hill for late-running trains from London, and southbound connections to Cheltenham will be missed. If Parkway is to work, it needs to be an interchange station - not two stations that happen to be in the same place on different lines.

Seeing a major chunk of presentation on Worcestershire Parkway at the RailFuture Conference in Reading on Saturday, I suspect that a second platforms on the Cotswold line would add hugely to the station cost and be pretty darned difficult to do with access costs - I'm not sure if and how any passive provision has been made.

Is there a valid assumption that trains will not run late ... your current late running train from London will never happen, will it, after the Elizabeth line has been completed, all those pesky HSTs have been replaced by IETs, Heathrow Western Access is open and the overhead masts at Goring have been painted green.  ;D ... Or in all seriousness, if performance can be improved, the need for contingency track for use in the event of timetable failure can be reduced.

How about one LONG platform, Penryn Style, with trains from Worcester able to arrive and wait at the west end of the platform and make connections pending the arrival of the train from London at the east end?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on November 13, 2018, 23:00:59
Quote

I'm not sure if and how any passive provision has been made.

Is there a valid assumption that trains will not run late ... your current late running train from London will never happen, will it, after the Elizabeth line has been completed, all those pesky HSTs have been replaced by IETs, Heathrow Western Access is open and the overhead masts at Goring have been painted green.  ;D ... Or in all seriousness, if performance can be improved, the need for contingency track for use in the event of timetable failure can be reduced

I believe passive provision has been made for second platform.

Better performance may come. To be fair, the IETs - whatever their faults - are better suited to the frequent stops at one-horse towns. I was on the 2148 from Paddington last Thursday. The stop at Shipton was over two minutes. I have no idea if anyone got on or off - possibly neither.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on November 15, 2018, 06:56:18
Quote
04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52

04:47 Hereford to London Paddington due 07:52 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Not sure if this was to have been an IET or HST


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on November 15, 2018, 13:32:04
That one is a HST.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 16, 2018, 08:11:11
GWR do have a new trick for managing congestion along the Cotswold Line in the morning:

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05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 will no longer call at Charlbury and Hanborough.
It has been delayed at Hereford and is now 14 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
Last Updated:16/11/2018 07:04

This can be a late decision leaving passengers at Charlbury and Hanborough standing on platform watching as their delayed train rushes past. And the double whammy is that if the 05:28 is running late, then the following 07:10 will be late departing from Moreton-in-Marsh adding to the delays.

But sacrifices have to be made for the greater good...

And on an earlier service:

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05:11 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 07:25 is being delayed between Ealing Broadway and London Paddington and is now expected to be 35 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 19, 2018, 08:14:50
Nothing on JourneyCheck but the 07:27 Moreton-in-Marsh to Didcot Parkway was started from Oxford "due to late running owing to following a late running preceding service (YD)".


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 20, 2018, 08:11:26
Not on JourneyCheck (needless to say) but the 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington was run with five coaches instead of nine today. As the previous service isn't running this week, it was already full and standing by Hanborough.

And also:

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08:14 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 09:46 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:20/11/2018 05:18

as was the outward run to MIM


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 20, 2018, 09:01:28
The GWR 'Cotswolds 2018' summary at https://www.gwr.com/travel-updates/planned-engineering/cotswolds2018 (https://www.gwr.com/travel-updates/planned-engineering/cotswolds2018) says
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Hereford/Great Malvern to London Paddington – limited number of direct trains at peak times. At other times, travel via Newport or Gloucester

These through trains are very limited and I'm glad I don't have to go to London this week.

The normal service from Shrub Hill has departures at 05:11, 05:37, 06:19 and 07:35, the last three starting at Hereford. There's two via-Cheltenham trains starting at Shrub Hill at 05:28 and 07:08 - but since these are (a) slower and (b) cost more, they don't really count.

RTT is reporting this week as having through departures (via Cheltenham) at 05:28, 06:05 (from Hereford) and 07:08.

Coming back from Paddington, there's usually Hereford departures at 17:22, 17:52 (Shrub Hill only), 18:22 and 19:22, with a via-Cheltenham at 19:48.

This week this is down to 18:37 (Hereford) and then 19:48 (Shrub Hill only).

So the "limited number of direct trains" from Hereford and Malvern would be more accurately described as "one direct train".

Moral of story - never travel during periods of engineering works.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: DavidT on November 20, 2018, 13:29:18
As a newcomer to this forum, I am quite genuinely shocked by the amount of cancellations. I commuted on Chiltern for many years -- not always perfect, but actual cancellations were very rare. On GWR they seem almost a daily occurrence. I'm puzzled by the 'fault on this train' excuse.  Can GWR's trains be far more 'faulty' than Chiltern's? Or is it the interpretation of what constitutes  a 'fault' -- and who is deciding? Sorry if these questions seem a bit naive!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on November 20, 2018, 14:18:15
As a newcomer to this forum, I am quite genuinely shocked by the amount of cancellations. I commuted on Chiltern for many years -- not always perfect, but actual cancellations were very rare. On GWR they seem almost a daily occurrence. I'm puzzled by the 'fault on this train' excuse.  Can GWR's trains be far more 'faulty' than Chiltern's? Or is it the interpretation of what constitutes  a 'fault' -- and who is deciding? Sorry if these questions seem a bit naive!

David - this forum is so much about answering the questions that everyone wonders about - delighted you have asked and many more can read the answers that will follow.  I may well split this thread as it's of far more general interest that just on the Cotswolds.

Let me try an amateur's answer ... but these days I'm an informed amateur.

1. Equipment tends to be at its least reliable when it's very new (teething troubles) or old (wearing out) and GWR are moving from being the oldest fleet to (in parts) one of the newest at present - the worst of both worlds, with HSTs in their twighlight being replaced by newborn IETs

2. GWR has a massive area to cover, and rather than spread grief evenly if things go wrong, they may rob one line to run a service on another.   I was at a conference in June where they talked of four lines - the Heart of Wessex, the Severn Beach, the TransWilts and the North Cotswold, which had suffered a disproportionate amount of problems;   Chiltern being smaller don't have such a flexibility to move misery around

3. With new fleets coming in, depots closing and new ones being opened by different contractors, maintenance staff don't exactly feel secure. So someone invites them to a new and more secure job ... and you're left with a shortage of experience to be looking after the trains at the very time they're getting old

4. Traffic has grown far more that was expected in the last decade, so there are fewer spare trains around; where int he past having 2 or 3 awaiting repair might not have been an issue, now it certainly is.  And franchises are deigned to be as lean on resources as is practical.

5. With modern trains getting more complex, and modern health and safety being very much more fussy, more trains are likely to be declared failures (or not signed off for use) than used to be the case.

6. HSTs in particular were never designed for all the stop-start working they're called on to do these days - they're expresses for occasional stops. Perhaps that place undue wear on them?

Now - let's see which of those the professionals agree with and which they tell me are complete tosh!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 21, 2018, 07:14:16
And again:
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05:47 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 07:36 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:21/11/2018 05:49

08:14 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 09:46 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:21/11/2018 05:49


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: DavidT on November 21, 2018, 10:49:21
Looks like they can't even pay the compensation on time!
Thanks for getting in touch
Following an increase in customer contact, we are busier than normal atthe moment. We will respond as soon as we can, but if you are claiming compensation for a delayed journey this might take up to 14 days.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on November 21, 2018, 10:52:25
Looks like they can't even pay the compensation on time!
Thanks for getting in touch
Following an increase in customer contact, we are busier than normal atthe moment. We will respond as soon as we can, but if you are claiming compensation for a delayed journey this might take up to 14 days.

Still waiting for a claim I made following a cancelled London to Bristol service on June 16th.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: DavidT on November 21, 2018, 19:35:50
19.22 Paddington to MIM delayed by 30 mins 'due to train crew being delayed'.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on November 21, 2018, 19:56:56
Departed 24 late, having been 35 late arriving on its inbound journey


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: didcotdean on November 22, 2018, 09:09:45
As a newcomer to this forum, I am quite genuinely shocked by the amount of cancellations. I commuted on Chiltern for many years -- not always perfect, but actual cancellations were very rare.
This year on Chiltern hasn't been that great - various track and signalling problems, 'more carriages needing repair', and from August to October daily cancellations through lack of staff. Indeed one evening it got so bad they could barely cover a two-hourly service and were bailed out by GWR/XC.

These don't really get reported often here, but for example this morning looks problematic: one train to Birmingham getting no further than Wembley before sitting down and blocking the whole line; another being turned round short at Dorridge; earlier a key commuter train to Oxford being turned round short at Bicester with the result of people being an hour late for work etc.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: DavidT on November 23, 2018, 19:01:09
I don't want to get into a comparison about which railway company has the better record. All I can say is that the service this week from Charlbury to Paddington has been abject. On Tuesday the 8.35 was cancelled. And cancelled on Wednesday. The next train is an hour and six minutes later. Every train this week has been late arriving at either Paddington or Charlbury, bar one. Tonight the 5.22 which should have reached Charlbury at 18.35 has been terminated at Oxford at 7pm.  It is a really quite shocking litany of management failure. They are paid to run an efficient service. They really don't. No excuses. 


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 23, 2018, 19:07:40
And just what you need for a Friday evening:

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17:22 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 18:57 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:23/11/2018 18:55

in a week when the following 17:52 PAD:WOS isn't running beyond Oxford either.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 25, 2018, 12:13:18
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Alterations to services between Moreton-In-Marsh and Oxford
 
Due to a broken down train between Moreton-in-Marsh and Oxford some lines are closed.
Train services running through these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 15:00 25/11.

Further Information
Owing to a broken down train at Moreton-in-Marsh it is not possible to operate train services between Oxford and Moreton-in-Marsh. The line beyond Moreton-in-Marsh is closed owing to pre-planned meintenance work. The bus services being operated on the section of route between Worcester and Moreton-in-Marsh will be extended to operate to and from Oxford but the journey time for throughout journeys will be much longer than corresponding train journeys.
Last Updated:25/11/2018 12:00


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 25, 2018, 13:39:26
Later...
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10:15 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 12:05 was started from Charlbury.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Didcot Parkway, Reading and Slough.
It has been previously delayed, is being further delayed between Hanborough and Oxford and is now expected to be 125 minutes late.
This is due to a broken down train.
Last Updated:25/11/2018 12:53

12:14 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 14:10 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a broken down train.
Last Updated:25/11/2018 10:46

13:15 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 15:05 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a broken down train.
Last Updated:25/11/2018 12:16


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on November 25, 2018, 17:05:55
RRBs going down entirely unsuitable roads in Charlbury town centre yet again - we almost got mowed down by a Henshaws coach mounting the narrow pavement outside our house just as I was about to wheel the cargo bike out. Junior and I had already abandoned our plan to go to All Things Wild in Honeybourne because of the disruption.

I wonder where they were dropping passengers in Charlbury - buses going over the fragile river bridge to access the station is a major no-no.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on November 26, 2018, 12:50:17
 
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12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27
12:00 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 14:27 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street.
It will be delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is expected to be 30 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:26/11/2018 11:31

The down service (1W19  0921 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street) was 6 mins late leaving Paddington, 10 late Slough, 57 late Reading and 70 minutes late arriving at Worcester Shrub Hill, where it was terminated.  Real Time Trains suggests a brake fault.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 28, 2018, 17:41:07
GWR haven't used this fix for a couple of weeks:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 was terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:28/11/2018 17:05

and return run similarly affected.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on November 28, 2018, 17:46:08
Following Halts service unsurprisingly rammed.

It would help if the tannoy announcement that “to alight at Hanborough, you must be in the rear three coaches” was made before the train had stopped...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 29, 2018, 17:08:24
Looks like the halts service is going to be rammed again:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 was terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:29/11/2018 16:32

By my reckoning, that's the 37th time this year this train has failed to run through to Moreton-in-Marsh. It must be so frustrating for those who use this service (ir)regularly.

[edit to remove duplicate words]


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on November 29, 2018, 17:15:04
And whilst I'm here, I've just picked up that it wasn't a great morning service either:

The 04:47 Hereford to Paddington "was cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and London Paddington due to the train operator's request (TB)"

And the following 05:28 HFD:PAD was 34 late by Oxford and 33 late into Paddington. The 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington ran on time but, I suspect, might have been quite cosy on board.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on November 30, 2018, 08:18:51
The 04:47 HFD-PAD was cancelled at Wos due to engine problems on the HST.  Both following services are 9-car IETs so hopefully managed to cope ok.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: fladpass on November 30, 2018, 17:07:45
Quote
17:38 Moreton-In-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:03
17:38 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 19:03 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a broken down train.

Because 1W32 15:50 PAD MIM terminated at Oxford. For the third day in succession. This service's profile on OnTimeTrains is abysmal:

https://www.ontimetrains.co.uk/journeys/PAD/MIM/15:50/17:26/GW;dayOfWeekRange=Weekdays;dateRange=12W

Presumably the 'broken down train' referred to above isn't the HST on this service since the return (from Oxford) is still slated to run?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on November 30, 2018, 17:47:11
No, the one in front (15:45) run into trouble at Langley delaying services behind it


Having said that....

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Due to damage to the overhead electric wires between West Drayton and Slough trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines towards Slough.

Train services running through these stations may be delayed by up to 15 minutes. Disruption is expected until 18:15 30/11.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 06, 2018, 12:53:02
More afternoon congestion yesterday:

Again it was the 1322 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street losing time on the Cotswold Line going through Norton Junction 9 minutes late.

The 1522 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington left on time but hit Norton Junction 11 late and was 20 late by the time it got to Charlbury.

That in turn held up the 1522 Paddington to Great Malvern by 16 minutes and which was terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.

Surprisingly the 1550 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh was run through to MIM, and put ahead of the 1551 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington which departed Oxford 31 late.

The 1514 Hereford to Paddington was terminated at Reading, arriving 44 minutes late.

The 1522 WOS:PAD has been late off the Cotswold Line every day this week delaying the 1522 PAD:GMV at Wolvercote Junction, partly due earlier late running services on the single track. And as I write this, I can see the 1209 Hereford to Paddington is already 22 minutes late which may well impact upon the 1322 PAD:WOF etc...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on December 07, 2018, 07:49:19
Entertaining disruption this morning. The 7.12 ran fast through Charlbury at 7.30ish, at which point the display flipped to showing the two-coach 7.49 (exp. 8.04) Halts train as the next arrival... to the consternation of the many waiting passengers. Eventually the 7.31 turned up 15 minutes late, proudly displaying its next stop as “00.00 Hanborough”. The Midnight Express?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 07, 2018, 08:24:07
Entertaining disruption this morning. The 7.12 ran fast through Charlbury at 7.30ish, at which point the display flipped to showing the two-coach 7.49 (exp. 8.04) Halts train as the next arrival... to the consternation of the many waiting passengers. Eventually the 7.31 turned up 15 minutes late, proudly displaying its next stop as “00.00 Hanborough”. The Midnight Express?

The problem with this "fix" to bring the 05:28 Hereford to Paddington back on time is that the 07:10 MIM:PAD is inevitably delayed, so those waiting at Charlbury and Hanborough are doubly inconvenienced. And not helped today by the pouring rain and misleading display board.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on December 07, 2018, 09:32:43
Entertaining disruption this morning. The 7.12 ran fast through Charlbury at 7.30ish, at which point the display flipped to showing the two-coach 7.49 (exp. 8.04) Halts train as the next arrival... to the consternation of the many waiting passengers. Eventually the 7.31 turned up 15 minutes late, proudly displaying its next stop as “00.00 Hanborough”. The Midnight Express?

The problem with this "fix" to bring the 05:28 Hereford to Paddington back on time is that the 07:10 MIM:PAD is inevitably delayed, so those waiting at Charlbury and Hanborough are doubly inconvenienced. And not helped today by the pouring rain and misleading display board.

And last night's 2148 HST sat down at Reading. I was glumly contemplating a taxi but, to be fair, GW intelligently terminated an up train at Reading and turned it back.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: DavidT on December 07, 2018, 16:21:00
Thursday's 19.22 from Paddington left 48 mins late -- and was then held at Slough to let the 20.22 overtake it. It ended up 72 mins late at Charlbury.  Another triumph.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 07, 2018, 16:44:17
For the fifth time this week, afternoon congestion causing delays. Today, GWR have fallen back on another of their regular fixes:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:07/12/2018 16:12

From my records, this appears to be the 39th time this year GWR have failed to take this service beyond Oxford.

[later] and just to add to the pain, the following 16:22 PAD:GMV was delayed at Wolvercote Junction due to the late running 15:14 Hereford to Paddington service.

It's hard to see if there's a single reason for the congestion but it does seem that some of the timings on the single track can be quite tight and, this week, a number of these timings have slipped with all the knock on consequences.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 07, 2018, 18:54:19
For the fifth time this week, afternoon congestion causing delays. Today, GWR have fallen back on another of their regular fixes:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:07/12/2018 16:12

From my records, this appears to be the 39th time this year GWR have failed to take this service beyond Oxford.

[later] and just to add to the pain, the following 16:22 PAD:GMV was delayed at Wolvercote Junction due to the late running 15:14 Hereford to Paddington service.

It's hard to see if there's a single reason for the congestion but it does seem that some of the timings on the single track can be quite tight and, this week, a number of these timings have slipped with all the knock on consequences.

Flipping gets on your goat now, This often happens with a Weymouth to Great Malvern, if 20 mins late they get terminated at Worcester shrub hill.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on December 08, 2018, 22:51:03
For the fifth time this week, afternoon congestion causing delays. Today, GWR have fallen back on another of their regular fixes:

Quote
15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:07/12/2018 16:12

From my records, this appears to be the 39th time this year GWR have failed to take this service beyond Oxford.

[later] and just to add to the pain, the following 16:22 PAD:GMV was delayed at Wolvercote Junction due to the late running 15:14 Hereford to Paddington service.

It's hard to see if there's a single reason for the congestion but it does seem that some of the timings on the single track can be quite tight and, this week, a number of these timings have slipped with all the knock on consequences.

Flipping gets on your goat now, This often happens with a Weymouth to Great Malvern, if 20 mins late they get terminated at Worcester shrub hill.

At least if they get terminated at Shrub Hill there's a chance of getting to Malvern on West Midlands, depending on the time of day. Not that at WMT are much better, as they often do the same thing coming late from Brum.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on December 09, 2018, 04:45:09
For the fifth time this week, afternoon congestion causing delays. Today, GWR have fallen back on another of their regular fixes:

Quote
15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.

From my records, this appears to be the 39th time this year GWR have failed to take this service beyond Oxford.

Flipping gets on your goat now, This often happens with a Weymouth to Great Malvern, if 20 mins late they get terminated at Worcester shrub hill.

At least if they get terminated at Shrub Hill there's a chance of getting to Malvern on West Midlands, depending on the time of day. Not that at WMT are much better, as they often do the same thing coming late from Brum.

GWR or any operator running to a timetable are caught between a rock and a hard place when a train's running late - especially where single track is involved - whether to inconvenience passengers on the current service by terminating it short of booked destination, or inconveniencing others on trains if the late running means it's going to get in the way and knock on effects continuing perhaps for hours or until close of service.

Solutions?  Sort out delays and run trains much better to time, and these problems will be reduced as a consequence.  Other possible solutions (scheduling fewer trains, providing spares so there's something to send back even if an incoming service is late, easing schedules, denying train use to slow-to-board people) are rather unattractive.

Personal favourite annoyance ... late (or even early) running freight train in the way.  Not thrilled when reliability goes to pot because of problems on other lines either and 'we' get used for diverted passenger trains which take up the capacity - without even the courtesy of stopping at the stations where they have removed services for many hours.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 09, 2018, 13:52:46
GWR or any operator running to a timetable are caught between a rock and a hard place when a train's running late - especially where single track is involved - whether to inconvenience passengers on the current service by terminating it short of booked destination, or inconveniencing others on trains if the late running means it's going to get in the way and knock on effects continuing perhaps for hours or until close of service.

Solutions?  Sort out delays and run trains much better to time, and these problems will be reduced as a consequence.  Other possible solutions (scheduling fewer trains, providing spares so there's something to send back even if an incoming service is late, easing schedules, denying train use to slow-to-board people) are rather unattractive.

Personal favourite annoyance ... late (or even early) running freight train in the way.  Not thrilled when reliability goes to pot because of problems on other lines either and 'we' get used for diverted passenger trains which take up the capacity - without even the courtesy of stopping at the stations where they have removed services for many hours.

I Have a solution, continue redoubling Cotswold line to Wolvercot and Norton junctions, then the trains will improve, not many miles of track left to redouble?.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on December 09, 2018, 14:02:09
Even redoubling just from Wolvercot to Hanborough and Norton to Worcestershire Parkway (the latter being a few hundred yards) would probably be enough. In particular, Parkway will not succeed if this isn't done, because late-running trains from Evesham will stop trains leaving Shrub Hill for Parkway, which in turn will mess up connections for Bristol and the south-west via the Midland.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 09, 2018, 14:07:30
I Thought all of the line had been redoubled, Just leaving the ends that I mentioned. Network Rail have just had a big boost on money for cp6, so maybe they will be done.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on December 09, 2018, 14:09:09
Yes, the ones I mentioned are parts of the sections you mentioned.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 09, 2018, 14:13:12
Will mean Norton and Wolvercot junctions needing relaying, Norton being resignalled.

I Think the token instrument in Norton junction signalbox slows down trains. As the signalman needs to walk to a platform to hand to driver.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on December 09, 2018, 14:46:27
In practice I don't think that happens, since trains pass Norton box at speed in the up direction. In the down direction it is quite slow, since the junction itself is single lead off the up line, so down trains currently have to take the crossover just north of the junction.

You are right that the junction needs relaying as a proper double junction (and so does Wolvercot).


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 09, 2018, 20:48:55
I have just looked at my book, it says in there, There is EKT block to Moreton in Marsh, AB to Shrub Hill, TCB To Gloucester. The book shows a picture of the signallman handing token to a driver.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on December 09, 2018, 22:05:45
No tokens have been used since the redoubling in 2011.  Down trains have to slow to 25mph over the crossover though, whilst up trains can take it at a far more respectable 70mph.

The North Cotswold Line Taskforce recommendations are due (overdue?) to be published which should give a clearer indication as to what’s likely to be improved first.

See my post here as to what I think should be done:  http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20393.0


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on December 09, 2018, 23:23:03
Thanks for posting that link - as a newbie I hadn't seen it before. Very interesting. Obviously your idea of redoubling Evesham to Pershore, coupled with a much faster crossover at Norton for down trains, gets round the nightmare of two stops in the Evesham-Norton section. If reliability can be improved to the extent of getting down trains away from Evesham on time, then my concern about Parkway is reduced.

IETs should improve dwell times, and the selective platform extensions will help too. But it is embarrassing that the Shipton stop on the 2148 HST from London takes longer than the Reading stop, and that cannot be solely down to the stock. Surely it ought to be possible for the train manager to say "I shall be at  the door in Coach X, and if you want to get off you will be there also", and just open one door (cutting the stop to 30 seconds).

Finally - and I declare an interest here as a Worcester-based traveller - if your suggestion of a second path per hour (at some times of day) bears fruit, then we'll find out if GWR is serious about the western end of the line. Paddington to Worcester is still slower than the fastest train in 1923. To improve this would mean running non-stop to Oxford, then Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton, Evesham... Whether the traffic is there to justify that is far from clear.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on December 09, 2018, 23:46:43
Redouble the whole line and be done with it.

FT reporting another £1 billion sought for Crossrail and opening may be put back to 2020, so why not a few hundred million for the Cotswold line, Oh! that's not London, forget it.

Where stations need a second platform do we always have to have a footbridge, why not use the wonders of todays tunnel boring technology and bore subways to connect the new platform at such locations where practical.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 10, 2018, 09:33:31
Finally - and I declare an interest here as a Worcester-based traveller - if your suggestion of a second path per hour (at some times of day) bears fruit, then we'll find out if GWR is serious about the western end of the line. Paddington to Worcester is still slower than the fastest train in 1923. To improve this would mean running non-stop to Oxford, then Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton, Evesham... Whether the traffic is there to justify that is far from clear.

I'll also declare an interest - and I appreciate this is all just wishful thinking - but I would take issue with your choice of Kingham over Hanborough given the latter station is far more heavily used!


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on December 10, 2018, 10:07:46
Interesting. I had always assumed that Kingham (for Chipping Norton) was more used, but I suppose Hanborough is the railhead for Witney and Woodstock.

I had Hanborough down for the "all stations" service terminating at Moreton-in-Marsh  :)

As you say, it is all pure fantasy and we shall continue to drive to Warwick Parkway.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 10, 2018, 10:51:22

Interesting. I had always assumed that Kingham (for Chipping Norton) was more used, but I suppose Hanborough is the railhead for Witney and Woodstock.


We digress from the purpose of this thread, but Hanborough was actually the second busiest station between Oxford and Worcester a couple of years ago but has fallen back a bit since Oxford Parkway opened. The figures for 2017-18 should be out very soon but for 2016-17 Hanborough had passenger figures of 239K against Kingham's 184K.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Witham Bobby on December 10, 2018, 16:55:27
I Thought all of the line had been redoubled, Just leaving the ends that I mentioned. Network Rail have just had a big boost on money for cp6, so maybe they will be done.

Yes, the ones I mentioned are parts of the sections you mentioned.


Will mean Norton and Wolvercot junctions needing relaying, Norton being resignalled.


I Think the token instrument in Norton junction signalbox slows down trains. As the signalman needs to walk to a platform to hand to driver.

The Evesham to Norton Junction single-line section, which had been controlled under the Electric Train Token Regulations since the ridiculous singling of the line in 1973, became the Evesham West Junction to Norton Junction controlled by Acceptance "levers" in 2011, with the re-signalling and partial re-doubling of the route.  Unfortunately the single line along this section remains single, along with all the trouble that causes.  (I say "levers", because the one in Evesham box is a button, I believe)


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 11, 2018, 08:06:39
Bringing things back on topic:

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07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 08:51 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a safety inspection of the track earlier today.
Last Updated:11/12/2018 06:23

[Later comment] The outward run to Moreton-in-Marsh arrived at Oxford only a few minutes late and there were no significant delays with the services coming off the single track at Wolvercote Junction at that time. I'm wondering whether this was a different way of managing the late running 05:28 Hereford to Paddington instead of running it fast from MIM to Oxford, and leaving passengers at Charlbury and Hanborough to catch the 07:10 MIM:PAD which would also have been delayed by the late running.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 11, 2018, 12:12:55
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10:22 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:47 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford.
It is being delayed at Culham.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:11/12/2018 11:55

Not forgetting the inevitable:

Quote
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:11/12/2018 12:02


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Richard Fairhurst on December 11, 2018, 13:17:38
No surprise that the new station usage figures show further falls at Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough, and a further sizeable increase at Oxford Parkway.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Adelante_CCT on December 11, 2018, 15:06:46
Quote
Not forgetting the inevitable:
Quote
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:11/12/2018 12:02


This has now been altered:

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15:14 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:28 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Worcester Foregate Street.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern and Malvern Link.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Additional Information
We have ticket acceptance with West Midland Trains and Virgin for the following services:

14:39 Hereford to Birmingham New Street
15:39 Hereford to Birmingham New Street
17:14 Birmingham New Street to London Euston
17:30 Birmingham New Street to London Euston.



At the expense of:

Quote
15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 18:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 11, 2018, 15:23:41
Redouble the whole line and be done with it.

FT reporting another £1 billion sought for Crossrail and opening may be put back to 2020, so why not a few hundred million for the Cotswold line, Oh! that's not London, forget it.

Where stations need a second platform do we always have to have a footbridge, why not use the wonders of todays tunnel boring technology and bore subways to connect the new platform at such locations where practical.


Looking at NR Site Looks like is to be done under CP6, With abbottswood junction being done soon aswell.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 11, 2018, 15:25:03
At the expense of:

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15:51 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 18:00 will be cancelled.
This is due to a broken down train earlier today.

Makes sense given the number of stations the 15:51 omits, the gap between the 15:14 HFD:PAD and the following up service, and it can avoid some of the congestion that leads to the 15:50 PAD:MIM being terminated at Oxford as often as it is.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 13, 2018, 17:16:25
And for the 40th time this year the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh will not get as far as the Cotswolds

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:13/12/2018 16:34


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 14, 2018, 10:39:54
Quote
09:50 Moreton-in-Marsh to London Paddington due 11:30 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Last Updated:14/12/2018 09:38


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 16, 2018, 09:39:34
Quote
16:34 Hereford to London Paddington due 20:10
16:34 Hereford to London Paddington due 20:10 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:16/12/2018 09:25

19:37 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:23 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:16/12/2018 09:27


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 16, 2018, 15:13:58
As of 15:00, the truncation of the 16:34 from Hereford to Paddington has disappeared from JourneyCheck - but has not appeared as "reinstated".


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 16, 2018, 17:29:46
And as of 17:25 the truncation of the 19:37 has also disappeared, with no mention of its reinstatement.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 19, 2018, 08:06:08
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05:28 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:28 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-in-Marsh, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
Additional Information
Customers are advised to travel on the next available train service.
Last Updated:19/12/2018 04:47


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 19, 2018, 17:08:28
Depressingly predictable:

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15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:19/12/2018 16:30

Whilst recognising sacrifices need to be made for the greater good and all that, GWR are meant to be providing a service to their paying customers and, in the case of this particular service, are failing to do so. If a train has been cancelled 41 times in one year, there have to be underlying systemic problems rather than it just being a victim of circumstances.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 20, 2018, 12:22:56
Depressingly predictable:

Quote
15:50 London Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh due 17:26 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh.
This is due to congestion.
Last Updated:19/12/2018 16:30

Whilst recognising sacrifices need to be made for the greater good and all that, GWR are meant to be providing a service to their paying customers and, in the case of this particular service, are failing to do so. If a train has been cancelled 41 times in one year, there have to be underlying systemic problems rather than it just being a victim of circumstances.

Why congestion, The line is perfectly clear all the way up, This is giving me indigestion, Seems to be common now on this line


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 20, 2018, 12:45:44
Why congestion, The line is perfectly clear all the way up, This is giving me indigestion, Seems to be common now on this line

The afternoon timings do seem to be quite tight but it has got noticeably worse recently.

Yesterday, the 13:22 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street was six minutes late onto the single track at Wolvercote Junction and had lost a further five minutes by Evesham coming off the single track at Norton Junction 12 minutes late.

That delayed the 15:22 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington which entered the single track at Norton Junction 11 late and lost further time as it continued - 17 late at Evesham, 22 late at Ascott-under-Wychwood and 31 late from Charlbury having been held for the 15:22 Paddington to Great Malvern.

And the inevitable consequence was the termination of the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh at Oxford.

What's not clear is why the 13:22 PAD:WOF lost further time along the Cotswold Line nor, especially, why the 15:22 WOS:PAD failed to keep its timings. Not that an explanation would have been much comfort to the long suffering and - no doubt - jaded users of the 15:50 PAD:MIM.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on December 20, 2018, 12:48:48
I am surprised that someone who regularly travels this line / season ticket holder doesn't take action against GWR by doing a 'charge back' with their credit cards providers or a small claims court action for constantly failing to provide the advertised service.

I recall earlier this year a guy got money back on his season ticket over and above that which the rail company would have given to him for the constant cancellations he was experiencing.

I am still waiting for a refund when a GWR train I was intending to travel on was cancelled on June 16th this year. With the festive break coming up it will give me a chance to catch up on this one with a letter before action to GWR, copy to Hopwood and if that doesn't produce my refund then it'll be a claim through the small claims court with the associated small claims court fee added together with my time in preping the case at £15 / hour.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 20, 2018, 13:58:32
This one, 14:41 To Westbury, This train has no toilet facilities.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 20, 2018, 14:12:12
I am surprised that someone who regularly travels this line / season ticket holder doesn't take action against GWR by doing a 'charge back' with their credit cards providers or a small claims court action for constantly failing to provide the advertised service.

I recall earlier this year a guy got money back on his season ticket over and above that which the rail company would have given to him for the constant cancellations he was experiencing.

I am still waiting for a refund when a GWR train I was intending to travel on was cancelled on June 16th this year. With the festive break coming up it will give me a chance to catch up on this one with a letter before action to GWR, copy to Hopwood and if that doesn't produce my refund then it'll be a claim through the small claims court with the associated small claims court fee added together with my time in preping the case at £15 / hour.



Why are so many having problems getting refunds. I once got tickets for the 15:37 to Great Malvern, Only after entering the platform,that the screen changed to Worcester shrub hill, Anyway spoke to the person dispatching, and told to take to ticket office, I did and tickets were cancelled and then repaid, I then decided to go to Cheltenham instead on the same train. Which by that time arrived on platform 1.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 20, 2018, 14:30:45
Yesterday, the 13:22 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street was six minutes late onto the single track at Wolvercote Junction....

And the inevitable consequence was the termination of the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh at Oxford.

And today the 13:22 has arrived at Oxford 12 minutes late...


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: PhilWakely on December 20, 2018, 17:01:22
Why are so many having problems getting refunds. I once got tickets for the 15:37 to Great Malvern, Only after entering the platform,that the screen changed to Worcester shrub hill, Anyway spoke to the person dispatching, and told to take to ticket office, I did and tickets were cancelled and then repaid, I then decided to go to Cheltenham instead on the same train. Which by that time arrived on platform 1.

Getting a refund on the day having decided not to travel is an entirely different kettle of fish to obtaining a refund/compensation for delays as the ticket office has the authority to cancel your ticket if not used within a couple of hours of issue.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 20, 2018, 19:29:00
Yesterday, the 13:22 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street was six minutes late onto the single track at Wolvercote Junction....

And the inevitable consequence was the termination of the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh at Oxford.

And today the 13:22 has arrived at Oxford 12 minutes late...

I Bet the people of oxford are getting, or have got fed up with the constant shortened journey,s by now, have,nt they?. As my other post said about great malverns getting constantly terminated at Worcester, Although since the 4 track of the Filton bank, they are now rerely doing this.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on December 20, 2018, 19:47:48
Yesterday, the 13:22 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street was six minutes late onto the single track at Wolvercote Junction....

And the inevitable consequence was the termination of the 15:50 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh at Oxford.

And today the 13:22 has arrived at Oxford 12 minutes late...

I Bet the people of oxford are getting, or have got fed up with the constant shortened journey,s by now, have,nt they?. As my other post said about great malverns getting constantly terminated at Worcester, Although since the 4 track of the Filton bank, they are now rerely doing this.

The 13:22 was held at Evesham and terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill to let the 15:22 WOS:PAD through first easing later delays. But the 16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern was terminated at Worcester Foregate Street with the return running similarly affected:

Quote
19:42 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:31 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern and Malvern Link.
This is due to an operational incident.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on December 20, 2018, 21:34:13
The operational incident being a wrong side door release at Hanborough.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 20, 2018, 21:58:50
The operational incident being a wrong side door release at Hanborough.

Crikey! What doughnuts, How did they manage that.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on December 21, 2018, 00:11:10
They would have pressed the door release buttons on the left hand side (as is usual for 90+% of the station stops they do), instead of the right hand side as they should have for Hanborough.  Drivers make mistakes sometimes.

I believe software to stop a driver from doing it will eventually be installed on IET’s and some other trains such as 387s, as in certain situations in can be quite dangerous.  No harm done on this particular occasion though.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 23, 2018, 14:00:28
They would have pressed the door release buttons on the left hand side (as is usual for 90+% of the station stops they do), instead of the right hand side as they should have for Hanborough.  Drivers make mistakes sometimes.

I believe software to stop a driver from doing it will eventually be installed on IET’s and some other trains such as 387s, as in certain situations in can be quite dangerous.  No harm done on this particular occasion though.

I Thought trains had sensors on the side beneath the doors that detect that the platform wall is in front of it.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on December 23, 2018, 14:07:09
They would have pressed the door release buttons on the left hand side (as is usual for 90+% of the station stops they do), instead of the right hand side as they should have for Hanborough.  Drivers make mistakes sometimes.

I believe software to stop a driver from doing it will eventually be installed on IET’s and some other trains such as 387s, as in certain situations in can be quite dangerous.  No harm done on this particular occasion though.

I Thought trains had sensors on the side beneath the doors that detect that the platform wall is in front of it.

What happens when there is no platform wall to be against as in the case of my station, Yate.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 23, 2018, 14:11:35
They would have pressed the door release buttons on the left hand side (as is usual for 90+% of the station stops they do), instead of the right hand side as they should have for Hanborough.  Drivers make mistakes sometimes.

I believe software to stop a driver from doing it will eventually be installed on IET’s and some other trains such as 387s, as in certain situations in can be quite dangerous.  No harm done on this particular occasion though.

I Thought trains had sensors on the side beneath the doors that detect that the platform wall is in front of it.

What happens when there is no platform wall to be against as in the case of my station, Yate.

Is there not a platform wall in front by the track that supports the platform edge at yate?.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on December 23, 2018, 15:03:16
They would have pressed the door release buttons on the left hand side (as is usual for 90+% of the station stops they do), instead of the right hand side as they should have for Hanborough.  Drivers make mistakes sometimes.

I believe software to stop a driver from doing it will eventually be installed on IET’s and some other trains such as 387s, as in certain situations in can be quite dangerous.  No harm done on this particular occasion though.

I Thought trains had sensors on the side beneath the doors that detect that the platform wall is in front of it.

What happens when there is no platform wall to be against as in the case of my station, Yate.

Is there not a platform wall in front by the track that supports the platform edge at yate?.

Nope, there are concrete block pillars between which precast slabs were placed, a membrane was placed on the slabs followed by sand which was compressed onto which was placed a 'brick' like final surface. Normal concrete platform edging forming the edge. If I were that way inclined I could gain access to the rear of the platform and crawl under the platform to the track sleepers. Construction of  the re-opened Yate station was a really cheap project and when I read of the millions that are being quoted for reopening / new stations nowadays I do wonder if a new build of Yate in todays world would comply with todays NR minimum standards for new stations / new platforms.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 23, 2018, 15:18:13
They would have pressed the door release buttons on the left hand side (as is usual for 90+% of the station stops they do), instead of the right hand side as they should have for Hanborough.  Drivers make mistakes sometimes.

I believe software to stop a driver from doing it will eventually be installed on IET’s and some other trains such as 387s, as in certain situations in can be quite dangerous.  No harm done on this particular occasion though.

I Thought trains had sensors on the side beneath the doors that detect that the platform wall is in front of it.

What happens when there is no platform wall to be against as in the case of my station, Yate.

Is there not a platform wall in front by the track that supports the platform edge at yate?.

Nope, there are concrete block pillars between which precast slabs were placed, a membrane was placed on the slabs followed by sand which was compressed onto which was placed a 'brick' like final surface. Normal concrete platform edging forming the edge. If I were that way inclined I could gain access to the rear of the platform and crawl under the platform to the track sleepers. Construction of  the re-opened Yate station was a really cheap project and when I read of the millions that are being quoted for reopening / new stations nowadays I do wonder if a new build of Yate in todays world would comply with todays NR minimum standards for new stations / new platforms.

So its not like the new one at Filton Abbey Wood, which was grey bricks and the same at Reading. When they extended the platforms at Stonehouse they had large premade concrete sections with slots in the top to run lighting cables.

I will have to take a look next time I leave Gloucester to go to temple meads, Sounds rubbish, obviously they would have to fill it in.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: JontyMort on December 23, 2018, 15:55:06
They would have pressed the door release buttons on the left hand side (as is usual for 90+% of the station stops they do), instead of the right hand side as they should have for Hanborough.  Drivers make mistakes sometimes.

I believe software to stop a driver from doing it will eventually be installed on IET’s and some other trains such as 387s, as in certain situations in can be quite dangerous.  No harm done on this particular occasion though.

And in any event, why would such a mistake delay a train by more than about the ten seconds or so required to realise the mistake? As a reason terminating a service short it seems odd.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on December 23, 2018, 16:01:23
It’s classed as an operational incident, so needs to be reported to the signaller and Control immediately, and will then be the subject of an investigation.  The crew also have to make sure nobody has fallen from the train, which in the dark can take a little while, so a delay of that sort of magnitude is probably about average. The driver may then be relieved of their duties at the next possible location, depending on what other incidents are on their record.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: martyjon on December 23, 2018, 16:51:27
Quote
I will have to take a look next time I leave Gloucester to go to temple meads, Sounds rubbish, obviously they would have to fill it in.

When you do look make sure you look at the other platform to which the train is serving, both of the platforms are of a similar construction.

It might sound rubbish but it serves its purpose as a basic station.



Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 24, 2018, 13:50:39
Quote
I will have to take a look next time I leave Gloucester to go to temple meads, Sounds rubbish, obviously they would have to fill it in.

When you do look make sure you look at the other platform to which the train is serving, both of the platforms are of a similar construction.

It might sound rubbish but it serves its purpose as a basic station.



Do you think they will improve it, you could do with better cis screens, the last time I remember being on a train to Bristol I did not notice the platform construction but the useless call points with tellys in with departures on.

ADD NOTE: Today have been told that Yate now has new cis screens and that Cam - Dursley is soon to follow, the call points will be replaced.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 02, 2019, 11:34:18
Having gone into total anorak mode last year, I have been tracking cancellations of peak and shoulder-peak up morning services and down evening services on the Cotswold Line during 2018. As a Hanborough passenger, my definition of a cancellation is a service scheduled to call at Hanborough which did not do so: eg the occasions where the 05:28 Hereford to Paddington was run fast from Moreton-in-Marsh to Oxford due to late running were counted as cancellations.

Anyway, the three most cancelled services during 2018 were:

15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh - 41 cancellations
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington - 24 cancellations
16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern - 23 cancellations


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 02, 2019, 11:48:32
15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh - 41 cancellations
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington - 24 cancellations
16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern - 23 cancellations

It would be interesting to see those figures broken down into the first six months of the year and the last six months of the year, or even into four quarters.  From memory the 08:25 and especially the 16:22 were very bad in the first half of the year when providing drivers was a huge problem, but that has since gotten much better, whereas the 15:52 is more often than not cancelled due to infrastructure restrictions and other late trains getting in its way so has probably been consistently bad all year.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: charles_uk on January 02, 2019, 11:59:36
15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh - 41 cancellations  (Q1 8, Q2 19, Q3 4, Q4 10)
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington - 24 cancellations (11, 7, 3, 3)
16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern - 23 cancellations (17, 0, 3, 3)

It would be interesting to see those figures broken down into the first six months of the year and the last six months of the year, or even into four quarters.  From memory the 08:25 and especially the 16:22 were very bad in the first half of the year when providing drivers was a huge problem, but that has since gotten much better, whereas the 15:52 is more often than not cancelled due to infrastructure restrictions and other late trains getting in its way so has probably been consistently bad all year.

Quarterly split added above. There were problems with the walkway at Moreton-in-Marsh that prevented the 15:52 being run beyond Oxford during the course of Q2.

The 07:10 Moreton-in-Marsh to Paddington was in fourth place, failing to run on the Cotswold Line on 22 occasions. Like the 15:52 these were spread evenly throughout the year often as a result of congestion issues.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on January 02, 2019, 12:11:47
15:52 Paddington to Moreton-in-Marsh - 41 cancellations
08:25 Worcester Foregate Street to Paddington - 24 cancellations
16:22 Paddington to Great Malvern - 23 cancellations

It would be interesting to see those figures broken down into the first six months of the year and the last six months of the year, or even into four quarters.  From memory the 08:25 and especially the 16:22 were very bad in the first half of the year when providing drivers was a huge problem, but that has since gotten much better, whereas the 15:52 is more often than not cancelled due to infrastructure restrictions and other late trains getting in its way so has probably been consistently bad all year.

Is this to be blamed on the remaining single sections still on this line, Hopefully this year it will be done, CP6 starts. Is some of it included in the congestion issues above?.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on January 02, 2019, 12:21:18
I think they should electrify the Cotswold line as far as Worcester shrub hill, perhaps this should be in the predictions thread?.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: CMRail on January 04, 2019, 17:04:20
I think they should electrify the Cotswold line as far as Worcester shrub hill, perhaps this should be in the predictions thread?.

Predictions for 2090 more like. They haven’t made it to Temple Meads or Oxford yet, and I would think Cheltenham would be on the cars before that.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on January 04, 2019, 19:30:32
I think they should electrify the Cotswold line as far as Worcester shrub hill, perhaps this should be in the predictions thread?.

Predictions for 2090 more like. They haven’t made it to Temple Meads or Oxford yet, and I would think Cheltenham would be on the cards before that.

I had heard that there my be a plan for electrifying the line from Bromsgrove to yate, But was told, it would only be viable if cross country were to get trains to be able to use it,


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: CMRail on January 05, 2019, 13:37:02
I think they should electrify the Cotswold line as far as Worcester shrub hill, perhaps this should be in the predictions thread?.

Predictions for 2090 more like. They haven’t made it to Temple Meads or Oxford yet, and I would think Cheltenham would be on the cards before that.

I had heard that there my be a plan for electrifying the line from Bromsgrove to yate, But was told, it would only be viable if cross country were to get trains to be able to use it,

At the current moment it would be a waste of money. If Cross Country use bi-modes it would be worth it, but if the new GW Franchise sees bi modes for West then certainly worth it. Would they go into Gloucester though?


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on January 05, 2019, 21:09:05
I think they should electrify the Cotswold line as far as Worcester shrub hill, perhaps this should be in the predictions thread?.

Predictions for 2090 more like. They haven’t made it to Temple Meads or Oxford yet, and I would think Cheltenham would be on the cards before that.

I had heard that there my be a plan for electrifying the line from Bromsgrove to yate, But was told, it would only be viable if cross country were to get trains to be able to use it,

At the current moment it would be a waste of money. If Cross Country use bi-modes it would be worth it, but if the new GW Franchise sees bi modes for West then certainly worth it. Would they go into Gloucester though?

At a guess they would have to, would not make sense if they did not, the wires would have to go just up to the platform ends by plat 3. The existing gantries across the tracks would obviously have to be removed, and new signals placed on the ends of the platforms, like the ones they used in oxford.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on January 06, 2019, 19:51:31
18:42 Swindon to Gloucester is 32 min late, Do not know why this is, Although seemed late going to Cheltenham last time round.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 07, 2019, 06:15:47
From Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log

18:42 Swindon to Gloucester is 32 min late, Do not know why this is, Although seemed late going to Cheltenham last time round.

Hmmm ... we seem to be straying off topic (as this thread and board relates to the line from Oxford through Evesham and Worcester) and - ironiclally - late (as it's the 2018 log and we're now in 2019!).  However, interesting point raised by this particular delay.

I will follow up / fresh thread ... link to be edited in once the fresh thread is posted.

EDIT .... That follow up is at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20905.0 on the Swindon to Cheltenham Spa board.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: Dispatch Box on January 07, 2019, 11:40:48
Yes, Sorry graham, did not know where to put it, there did not seem to be a Gloucester or Swindon late trains thread?.


Title: Re: Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
Post by: grahame on January 07, 2019, 12:06:37
Yes, Sorry graham, did not know where to put it, there did not seem to be a Gloucester or Swindon late trains thread?.

It's easy enough to start a thread, but I appreciate your frugallity in doing so. Typically, "delay on X line" threads have been / are started where the delays get to a concerning level on that line;   TransWilts, Severn Beach, North Cotswold, Brighton were, I think, covered last year.  But specific interesting cases also crop up - as was yours, as it looked at the effect of an hourly rather than an every-2-hours spinner on the Stroud Valley.



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