|
Title: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: sunshinehappyness on January 20, 2018, 21:31:24 Obviously this is not really a Thames Valley branch, but no where else obvious for this question. Since the changes at the beginning of the year, has this once per day shuttle from Ruislip been removed?
It previously travelled from South Ruislip to Paddington (almost certainly empty) around 10.30 and returned to West Ruislip about an hour later (again, almost certainly empty). No one uses it, but in a way, a shame if it has gone. Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: Witham Bobby on January 20, 2018, 21:41:02 I couldn't find this train journey on the Chiltern site just now. Maybe it has gone? It was on my 'to do' list :(
Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: grahame on January 20, 2018, 21:44:41 Obviously this is not really a Thames Valley branch, but no where else obvious for this question. Since the changes at the beginning of the year, has this once per day shuttle from Ruislip been removed? It previously travelled from South Ruislip to Paddington (almost certainly empty) around 10.30 and returned to West Ruislip about an hour later (again, almost certainly empty). No one uses it, but in a way, a shame if it has gone. Realtime Trains still shows them on a random day next week ... Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 20, 2018, 21:52:08 Meanwhile ... many thanks for posing that interesting question, sunshinehappyness - and may I offer you a slightly belated, but nevertheless very sunny and happy, welcome to the Coffee Shop forum! :)
Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: Adelante_CCT on January 20, 2018, 23:13:40 It still operates, 10:57 from South Ruislip, and since May has returned non-stop to High Wycombe at 11:36 from Paddington
Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: JayMac on January 20, 2018, 23:32:47 Still running, and will continue to do so for Chiltern staff route knowledge. There for Chiltern diversions into Paddington during engineering works or other disruption into Marylebone.
Of course, route knowledge can be maintained on non-passenger services, but to end the parliamentary service would require the Secretary of State to initiate a formal closure process of the Up/Down Wycombe Line from Old Oak Common West Junction to South Ruislip. Formal closure is, of necessity, a drawn out process, to protect lines from closure at the whim of politicians. So, its often easier to retain a token passenger service, rather than 'close' a line to passenger trains. Another 'parliamentary' service in the Thames Valley is the 2145 M-F CrossCountry service from Reading to Birmingham New Street. This reverses at Foxhall Junction to take Didcot West Curve, thus maintaining a passenger service over said curve. Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: grahame on January 21, 2018, 07:26:23 A good source for Passenger Train Services over Unusual Lines is - err - the "Passenger Train Services over Unusual Lines" web site - current year at http://www.psul4all.free-online.co.uk/2018.htm
Here are some in / near GWR territory (bold title on block is GWR operated train) Quote Old Oak Common West - Northolt Junction (115) PA01 Mondays to Fridays: 2M29 1136 Paddington - High Wycombe 2V27 1057 South Ruislip - Paddington Didcot West Curve Junction - Foxhall Junction (via Didcot West Curve) (116) PA04 Mondays to Fridays: 1M79 2145 Reading - Birmingham New Street Bristol Dr Days Junction - Feeder Bridge Junction (123,132) PC01 Mondays to Fridays: 2R98 1553 / 1554 Bristol Parkway - Bath Spa Carmarthen Junction - Carmarthen Bridge Junction (128) PB04 Mondays to Fridays: 2E18 0814, 1B96 1100 Swansea - Fishguard Harbour Saturdays: 1B96 1100 Swansea - Fishguard Harbour Briton Ferry, Court Sart Junction/Up Flying Loop Junction - Morlais Junction (Swansea District line) (128) PB09 Mondays to Fridays: 1V62 1830 FX Manchester Piccadilly - Carmarthen 1W48 0503 Carmarthen - Manchester Piccadilly 1B97 1250 Fishguard Harbour - Cardiff Central Saturdays: 1V54 1630 Manchester Piccadilly - Milford Haven 1W48 0504 Carmarthen - Manchester Piccadilly Sundays until 14 January 2018: 1E16 1205 Cardiff Central - Milford Haven Landore Junction - Swansea Loop West Junction (128) PB04 Saturdays: 1B97 1243 Fishguard Harbour - Cardiff Central Sundays: 1B97 1240 Fishguard Harbour - Cardiff Central 1E16 1205 Cardiff Central - Milford Haven (from 21 January 2018) [note: trains in previous entry may use this route on occasion to suit operating convenience] Margam East Junction - Margam Moors Junction via OVE (Ogmore Vale Extension) line (125,128) PB03 Mondays to Fridays: 1L05 0352 Swansea - Paddington Laverstock North Junction - Laverstock South Junction WG04 The Railway Touring Co's return Dorset Coast Express WO in summer Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: Surrey 455 on January 21, 2018, 10:28:22 Obviously this is not really a Thames Valley branch, but no where else obvious for this question. Since the changes at the beginning of the year, has this once per day shuttle from Ruislip been removed? It previously travelled from South Ruislip to Paddington (almost certainly empty) around 10.30 and returned to West Ruislip about an hour later (again, almost certainly empty). No one uses it, but in a way, a shame if it has gone. I have used it once, just to tick it off my list of things to do. It's not a very scenic route. After North Acton the train goes through some depressing industrial wastelands before arriving in South Ruislip (in Nov 2016). Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: eightf48544 on January 21, 2018, 11:01:16 I did it when it stopped at West Ruislip. It's a pity now it's non stop High Wycombe as you can't do it on a Travelcard!
The most famous parliamentary train is the once a week Stockport Staybridge service or is it the other way round they keep changing it. It used to on Friday's only one way. Interestingly enough at one time just after electrification it used to be a quick way to Sheffield change Stockport and Guide Bridge. There was also the Wandsworth Ealing Broadway Bus. I think there's a thread on Coffee Shop about it. Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: onthecushions on January 21, 2018, 13:02:47 Interestingly enough at one time just after electrification it used to be a quick way to Sheffield change Stockport and Guide Bridge. You could also use it to get to Leeds from Reading, Cross Country, earlier than via Derby, at one time. OTC Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: grahame on January 21, 2018, 13:19:50 Interestingly enough at one time just after electrification it used to be a quick way to Sheffield change Stockport and Guide Bridge. You could also use it to get to Leeds from Reading, Cross Country, earlier than via Derby, at one time. OTC The 18:58 Aberystwyth to York (arrive 03:15) used to go that way too ... change at York onto the overnight Glasgow to Colchester train ... memories of all line rovers! Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: grahame on November 27, 2018, 07:47:39 From The Londonist (https://londonist.com/london/transport/london-s-loneliest-train-service-will-soon-stop-running-for-ever)
Quote The 'ghost train' service shuttles in and out of London Paddington from South Ruislip to High Wycombe once a day, on weekdays only. It is rarely advertised and attracts few riders; it's a parliamentary service, meaning the railway company only runs it to keep the line open. Alas, the train's days are numbered, according to Londonist train expert Geoff Marshall. Its final day will be 7 December 2018, after which it will run no more. The reason for its termination? Works on HS2 are demolishing the track on which the train runs. Want to catch the train while you can? Here's its timetable for its final week in operation: Monday 3- Thursday 6 December 2018: South Ruislip depart 10:57; arrives Paddington 11:26 Paddington depart 11:35; arrives High Wycombe 12:30 (no intermediate stops) Friday 7 December 2018 (final day): For this final day, Chiltern has changed the train from Paddington, which allows a more local travel opportunity: South Ruislip depart 10:57; arrives Paddington 11:26 Paddington depart 11:35; calling South Ruislip 12:00; Gerard’s Cross 12:10; Beaconsfield 12:17; arriving High Wycombe 12:30 Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: bobm on November 27, 2018, 08:50:14 Probably means this was the last time I will see it. Approaching Paddington on 29th October this year.
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/chilt.jpg) Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: rogerw on November 27, 2018, 08:57:41 Still runs but only to/from West Ealing
Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: Electric train on November 27, 2018, 18:00:47 Still runs but only to/from West Ealing Get used to seeing that as I feel in the longer term Chiltern will be operating the Greenford's and the potential of West Ealing - Wycombe Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: paul7575 on November 27, 2018, 19:13:24 Still runs but only to/from West Ealing Get used to seeing that as I feel in the longer term Chiltern will be operating the Greenford's and the potential of West Ealing - Wycombe I think we covered this in another thread recently, and here it is - in amongst the Paddington Christmas engineering work: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20357.msg247971#msg247971 Paul Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: bobm on December 08, 2018, 04:45:01 Reported on Twitter that there around 200 on Friday’s final run from Paddington.
Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: grahame on December 08, 2018, 04:50:47 Reported on Twitter that there around 200 on Friday’s final run from Paddington. Indeed. Ran into / out of platform 1 at Paddington. 3 car train, extra stops on the way out. End of an era - the former main line from Paddington to Birmingham and Birkenhead. Lots on Facebook too. Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: rogerw on December 08, 2018, 15:28:04 I was told that the number on that service was more than the total for the rest of the year including at least one visitor from the other side of the pond
Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: paul7575 on December 08, 2018, 16:26:03 Reported on Twitter that there around 200 on Friday’s final run from Paddington. Indeed. Ran into / out of platform 1 at Paddington. 3 car train, extra stops on the way out. End of an era - the former main line from Paddington to Birmingham and Birkenhead. Lots on Facebook too. Paul Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: grahame on December 09, 2018, 12:35:46 A timetable extract from the summer of 1963 when you could catch a train from Paddington via this line for your summer holiday in resorts line Barmouth, Bala and Birkenhead
(http://www.wellho.net/pix/fizzled.jpg) Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: JontyMort on December 09, 2018, 14:07:12 A timetable extract from the summer of 1963 when you could catch a train from Paddington via this line for your summer holiday in resorts line Barmouth, Bala and Birkenhead (http://www.wellho.net/pix/fizzled.jpg) The 1010 was presumably a Blue Pullman at this point, because the LNW line was in the throes of electrification. Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: grahame on December 12, 2018, 07:30:46 Still runs but only to/from West Ealing Report at https://londonist.com/london/transport/a-new-ghost-train-is-now-running-in-london Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: IndustryInsider on December 12, 2018, 10:16:10 Still runs but only to/from West Ealing Report at https://londonist.com/london/transport/a-new-ghost-train-is-now-running-in-london I'm not sure why it doesn't still go into Paddington? Was handy in keeping route knowledge up for diversions when Marylebone was closed in that regard. Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: ChrisB on December 12, 2018, 10:18:11 With Crossrail services supposedly being introduced in this timetable, available slots/platform at Paddington would have been at a premium....
Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: stuving on December 12, 2018, 10:25:59 Still runs but only to/from West Ealing Report at https://londonist.com/london/transport/a-new-ghost-train-is-now-running-in-london Since December 6th Chiltern have had four more round trips from South Ruislip to West Ealing booked as STP, two earlier ones and two later but finishing by 14:00. Some of those have run on most days, but the later ones have usually been cancelled. Training their pool of drivers on this new routing looks like the most likely reason for it. It's hard to say how long they will continue, as STP changes are only booked week by week. Title: Re: Parlimentary train to West Ruislip Post by: IndustryInsider on December 12, 2018, 10:28:57 At least it's making use of the new permissive bay platform at West Ealing with its capacity for 4-car trains. Mind you, that's even further for people to walk if their Greenford train is at the far end of the platform. No wonder usage is way down!
This page is printed from the "Coffee Shop" forum at http://gwr.passenger.chat which is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway. Views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that content provided contravenes our posting rules ( see http://railcustomer.info/1761 ). The forum is hosted by Well House Consultants - http://www.wellho.net |