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Title: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: grahame on June 02, 2018, 17:35:06
From ITV (http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2018-06-02/misery-for-residents-who-live-near-one-of-the-busiest-railway-crossing-in-europe-following-new-timetable/)

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Misery for residents who live near one of the busiest railway crossing in Europe following new timetable

It's thought to be one of the busiest railway crossings in Europe but residents in Hampden Park, in Eastbourne say recent timetable changes have made delays at the crossing even worse.

The local MP, Stephen Lloyd is now meeting with the Transport Minister to discuss the impact the changes have made.

Earlier this week Chris Grayling said the rail industry has “failed the passengers it serves” following the implementation of a new timetable which saw the time of every train change.

Drivers and disabled residents who aren't able to use the footbridge at Hampden Park Station say their lives have been made a misery following the changes because now the crossing is down for more time each hour.

Govia Thameslink Railway say there has only been a small increase in the amount of time the gates are closed

I recall standing at Hest Bank level crossing on the West Coast main line and being struck by how many trains passed.   What's the busiet crossing on GWR served lines?  Elsewhere in the UK?   What are numbers at Hampden Park compared to places like Foxton?


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: Adelante_CCT on June 02, 2018, 18:15:08
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I recall standing at Hest Bank level crossing on the West Coast main line and being struck by how many trains passed. 

I'm really glad the words "how" and "passed" are in that sentence!


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: Kernow Otter on June 02, 2018, 18:29:14

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I recall standing at Hest Bank level crossing on the West Coast main line and being struck by how many trains passed.   What's the busiet crossing on GWR served lines?  Elsewhere in the UK?   What are numbers at Hampden Park compared to places like Foxton?

We believe that Lostwithiel has the busiest mainline crossing west of Exeter when clay services are taken into account.  While the proposed timetable changes in January are much welcomed, we have yet to see what the impact will be of the additional barrier movements.


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: Adelante_CCT on June 02, 2018, 18:30:24
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What's the busiet crossing on GWR served lines?

Wokingham should have 14 trains each hour once Waterloo becomes 4tph and North Downs becomes 3tph. I'm sure busier ones are around in our region


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: AMLAG on June 02, 2018, 18:54:17
Red Cow (Exwick) LC adjoining Exeter St D must surely be a contender with up 14 or so train moves per hour.
It unusually has an attendant, except at night, to assist pedestrian users, who even more unusually are permitted by him to use the crossing when no trains are actually close by, when the barriers are down preventing road motor vehicles crossing.


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: stuving on June 02, 2018, 20:39:13
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What's the busiet crossing on GWR served lines?

Wokingham should have 14 trains each hour once Waterloo becomes 4tph and North Downs becomes 3tph. I'm sure busier ones are around in our region

I await that with interest. When (or if) it happens, I will no doubt just wait rather a lot whenever I leave home by car.


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: ellendune on June 02, 2018, 21:26:22
The people of Egham complain about their level crossing?

By the way where is Eurpoe?  Is is some multinational version of a northern Italian river? Or is it some new EU institution?


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: Bmblbzzz on June 02, 2018, 22:29:02
The people of Egham complain about their level crossing?

By the way where is Eurpoe?  Is is some multinational version of a northern Italian river? Or is it some new EU institution?
The latter. It's the colloquial name of the EAUD; the European Agency for the Unification of Defecation.


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 02, 2018, 23:22:57
Fair point.  ;D

I have now corrected grahame's typo in his original heading for this topic.  ;)


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: stuving on June 03, 2018, 00:09:25
I thought the crossings from Richmond to Barnes - all four of them - were the busiest. There's an hour in the morning peak when I count 24 trains. The future new timetable will increase off-peak trains to a similar level to the peaks, but I'm not sure the peak will go above that level.

The next crossing outwards, after the Hounslow Loop joins, is at Feltham. While there will be more Hounslow trains in the new timetable, this crossing will be closed soon after (late, though this time due to the council's road works). Currently it has about 12 trains in a peak hour

The eastmost crossing, in Vine Road, has the added feature of a second crossing (on the Hounslow line) only 50 m away. That's not quite a single crossing adding both sets of trains, but it's a lot worse than just one of them.


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: SandTEngineer on June 03, 2018, 10:19:07

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I recall standing at Hest Bank level crossing on the West Coast main line and being struck by how many trains passed.   What's the busiet crossing on GWR served lines?  Elsewhere in the UK?   What are numbers at Hampden Park compared to places like Foxton?

We believe that Lostwithiel has the busiest mainline crossing west of Exeter when clay services are taken into account.  While the proposed timetable changes in January are much welcomed, we have yet to see what the impact will be of the additional barrier movements.

mmm.... When I looked after the signalling equipment in Cornwall we often looked at the event logging data.  I agree that Lostwithiel is the busiest rail crossing in Cornwall but the road traffic is nowhere as heavy as some other level crossings (for those that don't know the area, its on a fairly quite residential road thats not a prime traffic route).

As far as the West is concerned, Exeter Cow Lane IS the busiest in terms of Rail/Road/Pedestrian usage.


Title: Re: Busiest Level Crossing in Europe?
Post by: paul7575 on June 03, 2018, 11:54:15
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What's the busiet crossing on GWR served lines?

Wokingham should have 14 trains each hour once Waterloo becomes 4tph and North Downs becomes 3tph. I'm sure busier ones are around in our region
Sticking with GWR served locations, Southampton’s Mount Pleasant LC, (just next to Northam depot), has 18 tph passenger services crossing in the standard off peak hour, 20 tph when there’s a second XC, plus an occasional GWR to/from Brighton, then with numerous freights and ECS in addition to that.  Average usage must be approaching 24 tph.

Paul



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