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Title: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: simonw on July 17, 2018, 07:37:21
https://www.gwr.com/travel-updates/planned-engineering/electrification2018 (https://www.gwr.com/travel-updates/planned-engineering/electrification2018)

Is this the second or third full multi week closure this year (can't remember if one closure was partial)?, apart from every weekend this year and quite a few Mondays when nothing works!

What is going on that they have to fully close a main line station again? Why could they not have laid the extra track during one of the other shutdowns, or used one of their track laying trains over the weekend?

The bus replacement service will probably be a joke again. Insufficient buses, drivers who get lost from FAW to BPW and a bus timetable that is an aspiration but never delivered!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: grahame on July 17, 2018, 07:43:01
Is this the second or third full multi week closure this year (can't remember if one closure was partial)?, apart from every weekend this year and quite a few Mondays when nothing works!

What is going on that they have to fully close a main line station again? Why could they not have laid the extra track during one of the other shutdowns, or used one of their track laying trains over the weekend?

It often feels that what used to be able to be done overnight or between trains now takes a week's closure.   Mind, there is a positive aspect and the risk of something like The Staplehurst Accident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staplehurst_rail_crash) has been reduced to virtually zero.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: Timmer on July 17, 2018, 08:06:56
It often feels that what used to be able to be done overnight or between trains now takes a week's closure.   
Simple reason is that they are so far behind they've gone for the nuclear option of long continual closures to get the work done, yet it's just been revealed the line to Cardiff won't be complete until around this time next year and not at the end of this year as planned.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: simonw on August 27, 2018, 17:16:52
With this three-week closure approaching, I have now looked into my travel options.

The train I currently use is the 0624, Bristol Parkay to Penzance, (for Temple Meads) which for these three weeks will start at 0628 from Filton Abbey Wood. Sonds good, but how do I get to Filton Abbey Wood for 0625?

The bus services from Bristol Parkway start at 0640, so not good.

No cycle access weith the current building of Platform 4 and four tracking.

No bus service to Filton Abbey Wood, but a 10 minute walk from Abbey Wood retail park park.

So, it looks as if I'll have to get a bus ticket each day.

It's a real shame, Bristol Parkway, whilst shut, will still have excellent Cycle racks and 1900 parking spaces, probably more than all other rail stations in Bristol area put together!

Why couldn't GWR run an earlier bus to Filton Abbey Wood in the morning, and allow more people to easily get to Temple Meads for work and connections.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: CMRail on August 27, 2018, 20:42:23
With this three-week closure approaching, I have now looked into my travel options.

The train I currently use is the 0624, Bristol Parkay to Penzance, (for Temple Meads) which for these three weeks will start at 0628 from Filton Abbey Wood. Sonds good, but how do I get to Filton Abbey Wood for 0625?

The bus services from Bristol Parkway start at 0640, so not good.

No cycle access weith the current building of Platform 4 and four tracking.

No bus service to Filton Abbey Wood, but a 10 minute walk from Abbey Wood retail park park.

So, it looks as if I'll have to get a bus ticket each day.

It's a real shame, Bristol Parkway, whilst shut, will still have excellent Cycle racks and 1900 parking spaces, probably more than all other rail stations in Bristol area put together!

Why couldn't GWR run an earlier bus to Filton Abbey Wood in the morning, and allow more people to easily get to Temple Meads for work and connections.


Oh well, it’s not for that long.
Oh wait, have fun during Four Track Filton!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: froome on September 02, 2018, 21:35:45
Can Patchway station really cope with the numbers that would normally use Bristol Parkway?



Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: grahame on September 02, 2018, 23:48:27
Can Patchway station really cope with the numbers that would normally use Bristol Parkway?

There is probably a reliance on some of the traffic being lost to rail in the immediate area, and some going via bus to Filton Abbey Wood or Yate.   

The question that the planner ask themselves is not "how do we cope with normal traffic" but rather "how do we cope with the number who offer".  The number who offer can be influenced by the quality and quantity of the (replacement) service offered, and sadly at times decisions are taken that turn off all but the most determined travellers to save on the cost of rail replacement.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: froome on September 03, 2018, 14:26:00
Can Patchway station really cope with the numbers that would normally use Bristol Parkway?

There is probably a reliance on some of the traffic being lost to rail in the immediate area, and some going via bus to Filton Abbey Wood or Yate.   

The question that the planner ask themselves is not "how do we cope with normal traffic" but rather "how do we cope with the number who offer".  The number who offer can be influenced by the quality and quantity of the (replacement) service offered, and sadly at times decisions are taken that turn off all but the most determined travellers to save on the cost of rail replacement.

Depressingly I'm sure this is all true.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: grahame on September 04, 2018, 08:39:47
Noting (see attachment) that the London to Bristol Parkway works will be finished after these sets of engineering - this is from a letter from GWR and NR.

I don't understand how these works will enable the new trains to be brought in though - I though they were able to run already - though I do agree it will be better to have them running on electricity.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: Noggin on September 05, 2018, 12:41:08
Noting (see attachment) that the London to Bristol Parkway works will be finished after these sets of engineering - this is from a letter from GWR and NR.

I don't understand how these works will enable the new trains to be brought in though - I though they were able to run already - though I do agree it will be better to have them running on electricity.

I'm nit picking, but I see no such promise in that image - it's just work towards it being finished.

I suppose it is true that they will enable 387's to be introduced, but indeed, the 80x's are quite happy to run on their diesel engines, so it does seem a little sloppy/economical with the truth. 


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: TonyK on September 06, 2018, 13:26:15
No pain, no gain. There are a number of jobs being carried out simultaneously  - electrification, plus parts of remodelling of Days junction, fourth platform at FIT, and electrification. Rails have to be slewed, crossovers connected, and the whole stretch between BPW and BRI tidied up and tested etc. Probably even more to it than I imagine.

It will soon be in the past and forgotten. I, for one, can't wait to see four track soon.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: SandTEngineer on September 06, 2018, 16:09:05
No pain, no gain. There are a number of jobs being carried out simultaneously  - electrification, remodelling of Days junction, fourth platform at FIT, and electrification. Rails have to be slewed, crossovers connected, and the whole stretch between BPW and BRI tidied up and tested etc. Probably even more to it than I imagine.

It will soon be in the past and forgotten. I, for one, can't wait to see four track soon.

What user name are you going to have in January 2019, FTN?..... :)


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: Western Pathfinder on September 06, 2018, 16:13:46
Four Tracked Now might be an ideal.😁


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: grahame on September 06, 2018, 16:25:32
Four Tracked Now might be an ideal.😁

Six Track, Now!  ??


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: SandTEngineer on September 06, 2018, 16:33:39
Actually, when the work is finished, there will be seven tracks that converge from the North end at Filton..... ;D


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: CMRail on September 06, 2018, 17:18:57
Four Track Swindon to Didcot, Now!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: TonyK on September 06, 2018, 19:59:03
What user name are you going to have in January 2019, FTN?..... :)

You know, that's been keeping me awake some afternoons already - it took me long enough to come up with the moniker in the first place. I have already amended it, by the addition of the comma, so it's a bit tricky. I was going to involve a branding consultant I found in Yellow Pages, until he showed me the irons.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: grahame on September 06, 2018, 20:23:44
... by the addition of the comma ...

And gosh did that put a roadblock in the way of my "most liked" software as I can't simply count commas and add one!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: martyjon on September 06, 2018, 20:42:48
What user name are you going to have in January 2019, FTN?..... :)
You know, that's been keeping me awake some afternoons already - it took me long enough to come up with the moniker in the first place. I have already amended it, by the addition of the comma, so it's a bit tricky. I was going to involve a branding consultant I found in Yellow Pages, until he showed me the irons.


Solved, Four Tracked, Now !!!!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: TonyK on September 06, 2018, 20:49:44
Solved, Four Tracked, Now !!!!

Four exclamation marks now seems a little racy for a man of my tender years, but I'll think about it!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: ReWind on September 15, 2018, 20:58:05
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here, but I was wondering how the IET's are accessing Stoke Gifford depot during the BPW blockade?

I was under the impression the whole of the BPW station area was closed today and for the foreseeable for electrification works, but I still see the empty IET's are still able to exit and enter Stoke Gifford depot, like this one;

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V20152/2018/09/15/advanced


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: martyjon on September 15, 2018, 21:34:35
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here, but I was wondering how the IET's are accessing Stoke Gifford depot during the BPW blockade?

I was under the impression the whole of the BPW station area was closed today and for the foreseeable for electrification works, but I still see the empty IET's are still able to exit and enter Stoke Gifford depot, like this one;

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V20152/2018/09/15/advanced


An IEP can exit Stoke Gifford Depot onto any 1 of 6 lines, the down loop, No1, 2, 3 and 4 platform lines and the up loop and when all track alterations are complete be able to access all of the six lines from the Bristol direction too.
I expect special arrangements are in force to allow for at least two of the aforementioned lines to be available for ECS movements at all times.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: simonw on September 19, 2018, 18:55:32
Well, it has taken two days for me to confirm that me choice of local buses over Network Rails|GWR bus replacement programme was the correct one.

Colleagues at work that have struggled with bus replacemernts from Yate to Filton Abbeywood/Patchway and journeys onto Bristol Temple Meads report delays and severe overcrowding.

Why couldn't they arrange with First Bus to run direct buses from Bristol Parkway to Bristol Temple Meads for the three weeks. Say every 15 minutes?


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: grahame on September 19, 2018, 19:19:54
Sadly, cost often seems to take precedence over giving customers a service that's as close as can be reasonably achieved to their normal commute.  And it really feels that all the warning literature ahead of time is a convenient double edged sword - it both alerts people so they're not taken by surprise (good) and is perhaps intended to put them off their journeys so that replacement transport can still cope even if there's not very much of it.

I'm analysing ahead to Christmas - what could be done and what is planned to be done.  I have a journey that normally takes 28 minutes and could stay at that, but is going up to 40. A journey that normally takes 41 going up to 73 when it only need go up to 52, and so on.  Oh - my figures are being kind and optimistic to GWR - I'm assuming that bus to train and train to bus connections really are connections.  I've allowed 8 minutes, even though I know that it's been up to 40 in the past; so far I only have routings, not timetables.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: WelshBluebird on September 20, 2018, 16:05:53
I was already planning on changing to the local buses when the Severn Beach line gets replacement buses when travelling to and from my girlfriends. simonw, your assessment of the current situation when the current blockade is less disruptive than what the Filton Bank blockade will be is a further push for me to go in that direction!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: johnneyw on September 20, 2018, 18:22:08
I was already planning on changing to the local buses when the Severn Beach line gets replacement buses when travelling to and from my girlfriends. simonw, your assessment of the current situation when the current blockade is less disruptive than what the Filton Bank blockade will be is a further push for me to go in that direction!

I say! How many girlfriends do you have on the Severn Beach Line? 😀


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: TonyK on September 20, 2018, 18:44:38
Well, it has taken two days for me to confirm that me choice of local buses over Network Rails|GWR bus replacement programme was the correct one.

Colleagues at work that have struggled with bus replacemernts from Yate to Filton Abbeywood/Patchway and journeys onto Bristol Temple Meads report delays and severe overcrowding.

Why couldn't they arrange with First Bus to run direct buses from Bristol Parkway to Bristol Temple Meads for the three weeks. Say every 15 minutes?


What, and prove that MetroBust could operate from Parkway without another major round of road-building? That government funding isn't easy to come by, you know.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: grahame on September 20, 2018, 21:31:44
Why couldn't they arrange with First Bus to run direct buses from Bristol Parkway to Bristol Temple Meads for the three weeks. Say every 15 minutes?

Suggestion from an informed source suggests that they fear them getting stuck in traffic around Temple Meads.  Still road works going on around Temple Gate?


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: metalrail on September 20, 2018, 22:57:56
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Suggestion from an informed source suggests that they fear them getting stuck in traffic around Temple Meads.  Still road works going on around Temple Gate?

Yep the never ending roadworks around Temple Gate / Temple Circus...  or whatever they call it this time when the latest road scheme is finished

Another backwards step having removed the 'temporary' flyover to Redcliffe that did such an amazing job for so many more years than it was designed for!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: Phantom on September 21, 2018, 10:47:49
I was already planning on changing to the local buses when the Severn Beach line gets replacement buses when travelling to and from my girlfriends. simonw, your assessment of the current situation when the current blockade is less disruptive than what the Filton Bank blockade will be is a further push for me to go in that direction!

I say! How many girlfriends do you have on the Severn Beach Line? 😀

One in every port..... Sorry - station  :o :o


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: Phantom on September 21, 2018, 10:49:11
Why couldn't they arrange with First Bus to run direct buses from Bristol Parkway to Bristol Temple Meads for the three weeks. Say every 15 minutes?

Suggestion from an informed source suggests that they fear them getting stuck in traffic around Temple Meads.  Still road works going on around Temple Gate?

Works only just starting on the stretch at the bottom of the incline at Temple Meads
Currently getting rid of the central divide for the new section to go in

Works were due to finish this month, but have been extended by AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR !!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: CMRail on September 21, 2018, 22:00:28
Why couldn't they arrange with First Bus to run direct buses from Bristol Parkway to Bristol Temple Meads for the three weeks. Say every 15 minutes?

Suggestion from an informed source suggests that they fear them getting stuck in traffic around Temple Meads.  Still road works going on around Temple Gate?

Works only just starting on the stretch at the bottom of the incline at Temple Meads
Currently getting rid of the central divide for the new section to go in

Works were due to finish this month, but have been extended by AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR !!

Tell me about it, sat on the number 8 hoping to get the 17:30 to Swindon but misssing it and onwards missing my Kemble connection. lovely!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: WelshBluebird on September 27, 2018, 11:30:56
Considering how bad city centre traffic has been over the last week or so (thanks to roadworks, road closures and a protest yesterday!), I am not surprised GWR opted to not do BRI to BPW shuttles! Does make me wonder how it will cope come the end of October though! My girlfriend tried to get the bus from the bus station to Bath yesterday, it took 50 minutes for the bus to get from the bus station to Thekla!!


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: simonw on September 27, 2018, 13:04:35
It surprises me that the two local authorities, Bristol and SGC, did not sit down with First Bus, GWR and Network Rail and do something.

The decision to prioritise Metrobus routes 2+3 over 1, at the same time that Bristol Parkway is shut for three weeks, before Filton Abbeywood shuts for three weeks next month may have been determined by the Temple Meads gyratory issues, but it does not stop people from North Bristol( and Yate, Thornbury, etc) from having to work in the centre of Bristol.

There are certain decisions, or lack of them, that I would call a dereliction of duty and I would class this as one such case.

Adding a bus every 15 minutes from Bristol Parkway to the centre would certainly have helped.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: grahame on September 27, 2018, 13:54:28
Considering how bad city centre traffic has been over the last week or so (thanks to roadworks, road closures and a protest yesterday!), I am not surprised GWR opted to not do BRI to BPW shuttles! Does make me wonder how it will cope come the end of October though! My girlfriend tried to get the bus from the bus station to Bath yesterday, it took 50 minutes for the bus to get from the bus station to Thekla!!

When Filton Bank is shut - how would Bristol Parkway to Keynsham shuttles work - with a fifteen minute service (stopping the London and Portsmouth trains here) into and out of Bristol.   Added to which passengers on the Cardiff - Portsmouth run would travel Cardiff - Parkway, bus to Keynsham, train to Portsmouth and be able to avoid the City Centre completely.

Logical extension is for Parkway towards Taunton passengers to be bussed beyond the City centre.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: martyjon on September 27, 2018, 16:55:25
Considering how bad city centre traffic has been over the last week or so (thanks to roadworks, road closures and a protest yesterday!), I am not surprised GWR opted to not do BRI to BPW shuttles! Does make me wonder how it will cope come the end of October though! My girlfriend tried to get the bus from the bus station to Bath yesterday, it took 50 minutes for the bus to get from the bus station to Thekla!!
When Filton Bank is shut - how would Bristol Parkway to Keynsham shuttles work - with a fifteen minute service (stopping the London and Portsmouth trains here) into and out of Bristol.   Added to which passengers on the Cardiff - Portsmouth run would travel Cardiff - Parkway, bus to Keynsham, train to Portsmouth and be able to avoid the City Centre completely.
Logical extension is for Parkway towards Taunton passengers to be bussed beyond the City centre.

Parkway to Ring Road thence to Hicks Gate (one end of Keynsham By-pass) then A4 to Keynsham Church and Willsbridge Road to station. Same for Taunton and beyond pax, train from Keynsham to BRI and change or through PAD - TAU/beyond services.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: martyjon on September 27, 2018, 19:55:59
It surprises me that the two local authorities, Bristol and SGC, did not sit down with First Bus, GWR and Network Rail and do something.

The decision to prioritise Metrobus routes 2+3 over 1, at the same time that Bristol Parkway is shut for three weeks, before Filton Abbeywood shuts for three weeks next month may have been determined by the Temple Meads gyratory issues, but it does not stop people from North Bristol( and Yate, Thornbury, etc) from having to work in the centre of Bristol.

There are certain decisions, or lack of them, that I would call a dereliction of duty and I would class this as one such case.

Adding a bus every 15 minutes from Bristol Parkway to the centre would certainly have helped.

Route m2 was originally intended to be the first route to launch but the continued delays to the completion and testing of the infrastructure led to the m3 route being launched first. It is my belief that First Group lost patience with the Metrobus organisation and threatened to withdraw from the project as they had procured assets (the buses) to operate the services and these were idle in a depot somewhere gathering dust.

The m2 route is the infamous guided bus bit of Metrobus which had its problems and to my mind is a total waste of money, the guided bit that is. At the last minute the Metrobus organisation were oblivious to the requirement for the route to be signed off by the ORR or whatever they are known as at present as the route was using "rails". A crude (my) description of the guide rails is a U-shaped steel section turned 90 degrees left or right and affixed to a guided busway equivalent of a rail chair which in turn is rawlbolted to the concrete surface of the busway itself. In my opinion the desired effect of funnelling the vehicles into the guided bits could equally be achieved by the use of curved and straight kerb edging like the rest of the guided bits. The guide rails only exist for about 5 metres at the commencement of each of the guided bits with the "jockey" wheels running against the walls of the both the kerb edgings of the sidewalks and the central reservations at other times.

The m1 route is still not complete of which that is not mentioned in dispatches. A Metrobus building compound is still present on the city centre next to the Cascade Steps and the Under the Skies floating eatery cum boozer, and stops exclusive to m1 are still devoid of their IPOINTS (ticket machines).

I won't start on the flooding of the m3 city centre stop over the weekend after a slight shower of rain, proof of which was seen by Grahame and DR at last nights meeting.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: TonyK on September 27, 2018, 21:09:14
Put very simply, First and/or MetroBust were desperate to run something - anything - on a network that should have been up and running at least 3 years ago. I am puzzled by the M1 route though. The infrastructure, such as it is, is in place, and the buses don't need to specially adapted like the M2 route - they only need to be a bog standard bus. Surely it is not beyond the wit of man to run buses from Parkway using the MetroBust bus only junction and the M32 bus lane during the works? Or was the rail work scheduled on the assumption that MetroBust would have been up, running, and solving all of Bristol's transport problems?


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: grahame on September 27, 2018, 22:25:44
Considering how bad city centre traffic has been over the last week or so (thanks to roadworks, road closures and a protest yesterday!), I am not surprised GWR opted to not do BRI to BPW shuttles! Does make me wonder how it will cope come the end of October though! My girlfriend tried to get the bus from the bus station to Bath yesterday, it took 50 minutes for the bus to get from the bus station to Thekla!!
When Filton Bank is shut - how would Bristol Parkway to Keynsham shuttles work - with a fifteen minute service (stopping the London and Portsmouth trains here) into and out of Bristol.   Added to which passengers on the Cardiff - Portsmouth run would travel Cardiff - Parkway, bus to Keynsham, train to Portsmouth and be able to avoid the City Centre completely.
Logical extension is for Parkway towards Taunton passengers to be bussed beyond the City centre.

Parkway to Ring Road thence to Hicks Gate (one end of Keynsham By-pass) then A4 to Keynsham Church and Willsbridge Road to station. Same for Taunton and beyond pax, train from Keynsham to BRI and change or through PAD - TAU/beyond services.

I think you may be saying that would work, right?


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: martyjon on September 28, 2018, 07:28:13
Considering how bad city centre traffic has been over the last week or so (thanks to roadworks, road closures and a protest yesterday!), I am not surprised GWR opted to not do BRI to BPW shuttles! Does make me wonder how it will cope come the end of October though! My girlfriend tried to get the bus from the bus station to Bath yesterday, it took 50 minutes for the bus to get from the bus station to Thekla!!
When Filton Bank is shut - how would Bristol Parkway to Keynsham shuttles work - with a fifteen minute service (stopping the London and Portsmouth trains here) into and out of Bristol.   Added to which passengers on the Cardiff - Portsmouth run would travel Cardiff - Parkway, bus to Keynsham, train to Portsmouth and be able to avoid the City Centre completely.
Logical extension is for Parkway towards Taunton passengers to be bussed beyond the City centre.

Parkway to Ring Road thence to Hicks Gate (one end of Keynsham By-pass) then A4 to Keynsham Church and Willsbridge Road to station. Same for Taunton and beyond pax, train from Keynsham to BRI and change or through PAD - TAU/beyond services.

I think you may be saying that would work, right?

To avoid road travel into Bristol City Centre, yes but peak hour travel on the Ring Road would be iffy but the bus lanes on the RR will help.


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: froome on September 28, 2018, 08:33:13
I wish to travel from Bath to Gloucester during the period of this closure, and see that I have a choice of either catching the replacement bus to Yate to get the onward service from there, or catching the Cross Country service from Temple Meads to Gloucester which is diverting via Newport. As it happens, I also wish to go to Newport at some point, and was wondering about the validity of breaking my journey there on either outward or return journeys. I ask this as this isn't the normal route for this journey and the return fare to Newport from Bath is considerably more than the fare to Gloucester. Would my ticket be accepted if I break my journey and then continue using the slower service between Newport and Gloucester (ie not the XC service)?


Title: Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks
Post by: CMRail on October 06, 2018, 18:03:00
Off to Cardiff tomorrow, going to do a change at Parkway for Cardiff to see the electrification progress. Only have a nine minute slot so if I’m delayed then there may be issue but other than that all should be fine.



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