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Title: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: grahame on November 19, 2018, 16:39:59
From a comment in another post where I was quoting - "The last slam door train did not leave Waterloo until 2005".   Set me thinking - what dates for other termini?    Can anyone help me fill this in?


Fenchurch Street
Liverpool Street
Old Street
King's Cross
St Pancras
Euston
Baker Street
Marylebone
Paddington - 2019
Victoria
Charing Cross
Waterloo - 2005
Blackfriars
Canon Street
London Bridge


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: ChrisB on November 19, 2018, 16:40:48
Paddington isn't right!


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: grahame on November 19, 2018, 16:43:18
Paddington isn't right!

Estimate - when do you think?


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: Adelante_CCT on November 19, 2018, 19:01:15
Perhaps ChrisB was thinking of traditional slam door units such as those on the Southern region, as a thing from MK III carriages


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: The Tall Controller on November 19, 2018, 22:08:37
The sleeper service will prolong Paddington's observation of slam door stock in use


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: JayMac on November 19, 2018, 22:50:09
And, of course, any definitive dates for Waterloo and Marylebone will need qualifying.

Both have seen slam door stock in scheduled passenger service in 2016 and 2017 respectively.


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: brooklea on November 20, 2018, 07:42:34
And of course, Marylebone still has slam door stock scheduled every weekday, as it has had for several years now.


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: LiskeardRich on November 20, 2018, 09:28:41
Anywhere with HST services of course are still ongoing.

Aren’t there more Waterloo diversions coming up?


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: The Tall Controller on November 20, 2018, 11:33:25
Nothing in the foreseeable future


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: ChrisB on November 20, 2018, 16:12:52
Paddington isn't right!/quote]

Estimate - when do you think?
The sleeper service will prolong Paddington's observation of slam door stock in use

that's what I was thinking of....

also....
And of course, Marylebone still has slam door stock scheduled every weekday, as it has had for several years now.

The one set of Mk3s isn't being converted as too expensive, so 2019 for Marylebone.


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: eightonedee on November 20, 2018, 21:27:20
I've just checked Steam Dreams' website. They still seem to be running excursions from almost all London terminals, presumably all still using West Coast mark 1 and 2 stock, so perhaps the answer will be whenever health and safety legislation bans their use?


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: eightf48544 on November 21, 2018, 10:38:33
I though the last true everyday slam door stock on SWT were the 4VEPs for the Lymington branch Now worked by diesels as the newer electric units take too long to reboot on reversal. A couple of coaches of which are on the Chinnor and Princes Risborough Railway.

An interesting set is the London Transport liveried 4TC set



Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: paul7575 on November 21, 2018, 10:59:02
I though the last true everyday slam door stock on SWT were the 4VEPs for the Lymington branch Now worked by diesels as the newer electric units take too long to reboot on reversal.
The rebooting time problem was solved years ago, otherwise the 450s wouldn’t have been operating at weekends ever since the VEPs left.  They’ll be 450s 7/7 from the December timetable change. The 158s were used during the week to allow the 450s to be used for mainline capacity.

Paul


Title: Re: When did the last slammers leave?
Post by: eightf48544 on November 22, 2018, 11:01:58
Paul thanks for the update. Hadm't heard about 450s at weekends.



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