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Title: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: CyclingSid on December 26, 2018, 13:46:54
What do the following, mostly former, railway locations have in common:
Hayling Island
Gosport
Hamble
Cowes
Hythe
Christchurch
Swanage


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: johnneyw on December 26, 2018, 13:51:34
What do the following, mostly former, railway locations have in common:
Hayling Island
Gosport
Hamble
Cowes
Hythe
Christchurch
Swanage

Well South coast to start with. Also either closed or heritage?

Edit: Just realised the Christchurch is still an open mainline station although still on the coast.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: Reginald25 on December 26, 2018, 14:09:16
Yes but Christchurch station is not the orginal which closed between the wars.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: eightonedee on December 26, 2018, 17:00:31
Two guesses -

They were departure points for ferry or boat trips and you could get a combined ticket, or

They had sailing regattas for which extra trains were provided


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: CyclingSid on December 26, 2018, 17:16:28
Yes they are all associated with ferries, although most people would more logically call the Swanage ferry the Sandbanks ferry (but Google will find the Swanage ferry).

All across estuaries or rivers so unlikely to have been railway owned?

So as it was far too easy! The supplementary question is what did Gosport, Cowes and Swanage ferries have in common?


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: eightonedee on December 26, 2018, 17:18:20
Were/are they all chain ferries?


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: bradshaw on December 26, 2018, 17:57:31
I would agree; Floating bridges, using chains. The Gosport chain ferry ceased to operate in 1959 when ordinary ferries took over.
The Sandbanks ferry is currently out of action with serious hydraulic problems, despite having just come back from its annual service. The firm has just had a bid to increase fares, to aid its replacement, refused.
Another example was the Renfrew ferry which I used a great deal in the mid-1960s


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: Celestial on December 26, 2018, 19:39:49

The Sandbanks ferry is currently out of action with serious hydraulic problems, despite having just come back from its annual service. The firm has just had a bid to increase fares, to aid its replacement, refused.


I can't help wondering whether the breakdown is a convenient opportunity to remind people how important the ferry is after the refusal.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: CyclingSid on December 26, 2018, 20:02:38
Yes they were chain ferries. There is currently a chain ferry moored adjacent to the Gosport pier of the Gosport ferry. Don't know if it was connected with the idea of making the Hayling Ferry a chain ferry, a non-starter if ever I heard of one. I think the Hayling Ferry is struggling out of season. The problem with taking the Gosport chain ferry out of service was that the replacements don't take cars and it is a long drive round.

Cowes chain ferry has had repeated problems and periods out of service this year. Fortunately the jet foil to West Cowes (from Southampton) will take the Brompton.

Are the residents of Sandbanks complaining they can't afford the ferry!!! Mind they have not had a lot of luck in the Poole area recently, took them a long time to sort their bridge out.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: stuving on December 26, 2018, 20:38:59
Are the residents of Sandbanks complaining they can't afford the ferry!!! Mind they have not had a lot of luck in the Poole area recently, took them a long time to sort their bridge out.

Last I heard they still haven't.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: froome on December 26, 2018, 21:29:55
Well it was lucky I looked at this thread, as I was intending to use the Sandbanks ferry this coming weekend. Does anyone know what is happening with the bus service that uses it to get to Swanage?


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: Surrey 455 on December 26, 2018, 21:51:16
Are the residents of Sandbanks complaining they can't afford the ferry!!! Mind they have not had a lot of luck in the Poole area recently, took them a long time to sort their bridge out.

Last I heard they still haven't.

Yes it broke again today
 From Bournemouth Echo (https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/17320396.pooles-twin-sails-bridge-appears-to-have-gone-wrong-again/?ref=mr&lp=3)
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THERE appears to be a problem with the Twin Sails Bridge... again.

As reported, the troublesome structure reopened in time for Christmas, although without any repairs having been carried out.
The bridge had previously been out of actions for several weeks.
Engineers decided it could run on one hydraulic ram and with a slower and reduced lifting schedule.
However, today it appears that there are problems at the bridge once again, with one of the leaves apparently stuck half-way up.
Specialist engineers are due to visit at the end of January to try to resolve the outstanding issue with the bridge's second hydraulic cylinder.
Poole Bridge is also currently operating on a reduced number of lifts.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: Surrey 455 on December 26, 2018, 21:59:25
Well it was lucky I looked at this thread, as I was intending to use the Sandbanks ferry this coming weekend. Does anyone know what is happening with the bus service that uses it to get to Swanage?

It's on a very lengthy diversion.
From MoreBus (http://www.morebus.co.uk/article.shtml?articleid=8763)
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Sandbanks Ferry Out of Action AGAIN - from 22 December
Saturday, December 22 2018


UPDATE: The ferry is out of action AGAIN from start of service on Saturday 22 December. Our buses will continue to use the diversion route and timetable.
Boxing Day: The planned Boxing Day timetable will now be affected due to this emergency closure. Please download new timetable below.
During this time, the 50 will be diverted and will run to a revised timetable. The main service will divert from Westbourne to Swanage via Poole and Wareham (the land route) and then continue onto Studland where it will terminate, and the reverse will happen in the opposite direction. A shorter shuttle service will run between Bournemouth and Sandbanks with the first and last service of the day to and from Swanage also serving Sandbanks.

The following sections of the route will receive no service during the closure:

Between Bournemouth Interchange and Bournemouth Square in both directions (customers can connect with the m1, 13 or 17 to carry out this part of the route)
Between Shell Bay Ferry Offices and Studland Beach Cafe
As soon as the ferry refurbishment has finished and it is in full operation, we will revert our service back its normal timetable.

We apologise for any inconvenience or delay caused during this closure.  Unfortunately our roadside timetables don't reflect this diversion as we took them down again after the refit was complete, so please use website information only.

Diversion map below and zoomable PDF here: http://www.morebus.co.uk/article.shtml?articleid=8763


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: CyclingSid on December 27, 2018, 10:27:45
Well you always get added value on this forum! Thanks for the extra info.

I think I will stick to checking the progress on the extension to the Fareham-Gosport Busway (ex-Gosport branch railway), and then Gosport Ferry this Saturday. No engineering and no industrial action.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: CyclingSid on December 30, 2018, 10:27:20
The answer to my implied question (to myself?) about the chain ferry moored at Gosport. It is the old Cowes chain ferry, having looked more specifically yesterday after a cycle ride down the busway.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: eightf48544 on December 31, 2018, 12:01:53
You could also add Woolston or Southampton Terminus for the Itchen Floating Bridge. Which as my grandmother lived in Woolston we used a lot.  I even remember the trams on the Southampton side.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: Surrey 455 on January 29, 2019, 22:21:10
Well it was lucky I looked at this thread, as I was intending to use the Sandbanks ferry this coming weekend. Does anyone know what is happening with the bus service that uses it to get to Swanage?

The ferry has just gone back into (reduced) service after being out of service for quite a long time so I would imagine that the 50 bus will resume its normal route. Did you cancel or postpone your visit to Swanage?

From BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-47026576)
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A car ferry which has only operated for two days since October has resumed services.

The Sandbanks Ferry across the mouth of Poole Harbour in Dorset was forced to halt crossings following mechanical problems.

The chain ferry, which normally runs every 20 minutes, resumed a reduced half hourly service from 10:00 GMT.

The ferry operator said it had been signed off as "safe to resume service" by the Marine and Coastguard Agency.

It was initially taken out of service for annual maintenance on 29 October.

The ferry resumed services on 20 December but developed a "serious hydraulic issue" the following day.

The operator said the issue had been fixed but added that further repairs would be needed after "issues were discovered, that were unrelated to the leak".

"At some point we will need to suspend service again whilst the replacement parts are fitted," it added.

The ferry, called Bramble Bush Bay, takes four minutes to make the crossing from Sandbanks to Shell Bay.

The service avoids a 25-mile (40km) detour between Swanage and Bournemouth.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: eightf48544 on January 30, 2019, 11:53:13
After a cycle ride down the busway.

Is that allowed?


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: CyclingSid on January 30, 2019, 18:32:00
Cycling down the Fareham - Gosport busway is certainly permitted; buses, bikes and ESVs (emergency service vehicles) during opening hours. It is closed off at night because the temptation for car racing would probably be too great.


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: Clan Line on January 30, 2019, 20:02:23
All the comments about the Sandbanks ferry brought to mind something I spotted a while ago on the Google Maps aerial view of the ferry.  Two ferries on one set of chains ?? Do you transfer from one ferry to the other mid-crossing ?  Broad gauge to Standard gauge all over again.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/2ljtdg5.jpg)


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: stuving on January 30, 2019, 20:36:40
All the comments about the Sandbanks ferry brought to mind something I spotted a while ago on the Google Maps aerial view of the ferry.  Two ferries on one set of chains ?? Do you transfer from one ferry to the other mid-crossing ?  Broad gauge to Standard gauge all over again.

If you think that's worrying, look on Google Earth, where there's a choice of older images. One of those in 2005 shows a half-submerged ferry loaded with cars - now why did I never hear about that accident? 


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: CyclingSid on January 31, 2019, 07:48:57
Almost certainly caused by how they stitched the separate images of the mosaic together. Try it in StreetView you can drive from one ferry and meet the other one on the other side!


Title: Re: Some very light post prandial mental exercise
Post by: Surrey 455 on July 14, 2019, 20:16:48
Sandbanks ferry was out of action again this weekend.

From Bournemouth Echo (https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/17766432.sandbanks-ferry-suspended-due-mechanical-issue/)
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THE Sandbanks Ferry has been suspended until Tuesday due to a "mechanical issue."

The ferry company said on Twitter just before 9.45am this morning (Friday 12th July 2019) that the service had been suspended.

In a later update, the Bournemouth-Swanage Motor Road and Ferry Company said the ferry would be suspended over the weekend and on Monday.

A spokesperson said they hoped to be able to provide an update on Monday.

More follows.



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