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Title: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: bignosemac on February 10, 2019, 04:27:02 pm
From the May timetable change there will be a new early morning CrossCountry service from Bristol Temple Meads to Stansted Airport.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P38203/2019/05/20/advanced

Departing Bristol TM at 0613 and arriving Stansted at 1141. Whilst the end to end journey isn't very practical it does provide an earlier morning service from Bristol to Gloucester. The 0630 to Glasgow Central will still be the earliest service for Bristol to Cheltenham Spa as this passes the Stansted service while it is at Gloucester.

Later in 2019 this service will also be calling at Worcestershire Parkway when that new station opens.

This new service has come about because CrossCountry are now stabling a Class 170 DMU overnight at Bristol Barton Hill depot. Rather than run ECS to Gloucester it's been decided to start the passenger service from Bristol TM. Clearance work for Class 170s into the Bristol area is (or has) been done. Currently the service to Stansted Airport starts at Gloucester and the unit for it is, I believe, detached from a Birmingham New St to Cardiff Central service.

There is no late evening XC Class 170 passenger service back into Bristol TM. A new service runs 2018 Leicester - Gloucester 2235 (an extension of a current service from Leicester to Birmingham NS), which then runs ECS to Bristol Barton Hill to stable overnight.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/P38539/2019/05/20/advanced


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: grahame on February 10, 2019, 04:49:06 pm
The 0630 to Glasgow Central will still be the earliest service for Bristol to Cheltenham Spa as this passes the Stansted service while it is at Gloucester.

Is that (still) the 06:09 from Bath Spa?


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: TonyK on February 10, 2019, 05:08:23 pm
The 0630 to Glasgow Central will still be the earliest service for Bristol to Cheltenham Spa as this passes the Stansted service while it is at Gloucester.

Is that (still) the 06:09 from Bath Spa?

Yes - 1S35.


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: Charlie (in Gloucester) on February 11, 2019, 07:56:32 am
Nice to see an extra (fast) morning service from Gloucester.


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: Noggin on March 29, 2019, 09:08:45 am
I was going to say that it was possibly quite handy if you were doing Bristol to Cambridge and wanted to avoid changing in London, but Trainline reckons that is 3h30 vs 5h via this service, so I know which one I'd go for.


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: Bmblbzzz on March 29, 2019, 03:09:20 pm
Could perhaps be cheaper not via London? Though as it's XC, probably not!


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: grahame on March 29, 2019, 03:43:42 pm
Could perhaps be cheaper not via London? Though as it's XC, probably not!

The only Bristol Temple Meads to Cambridge tickets are "Any Permitted" at 257.00 (anytime return), 98.50 Off Peak and 73.40 Super Off Peak.  I suspect that the route via Birmingham and Leicester may ONLY be permitted on this new train, by the "direct service" rule rather than the routing guide diagrams.

06:13 from Temple Meads, about 11:15 into Cambridge - 257.00
08:30 from Temple Meads, 12:02 (official) 11:30 (if lucky with the underground) into Cambridge - 98.50

I'm not a great one for taxi - prefer the local bus - but for a lunchtime start in Cambridge, I think I would wait for the 08:30 the splash out on a cab if I was short of time.


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: eXPassenger on March 29, 2019, 05:47:57 pm
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I'm not a great one for taxi - prefer the local bus - but for a lunchtime start in Cambridge, I think I would wait for the 08:30 the splash out on a cab if I was short of time.

I spent much of my career working several days a week in central London and discovered that when running late the Tube was normally quicker than a cab unless the destination was well off a tube line.  Every few months I would persuade myself that a cab would be quicker and I would be disproved again.


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: Adelante_CCT on March 29, 2019, 05:56:00 pm
I *think* Graham was referring to catching a taxi to his destination in Cambridge vice a bus if short for time, rather than catching a taxi across London


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: grahame on March 29, 2019, 06:20:57 pm
I *think* Graham was referring to catching a taxi to his destination in Cambridge vice a bus if short for time, rather than catching a taxi across London

He was ... the London crossing by road is a gamble ... by underground is also a gamble but a bit less of one!   If the gamble fails then it's taxi from Cambridge to destination, remembering that taxis at Cambridge North at that time of day would need pre-ordering but are plentiful at Cambridge Main (can't call it "Central"!)


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: Bmblbzzz on March 29, 2019, 06:49:53 pm
I've only been to Cambridge once this decade(!). It was for a weekend conference and I don't recall there being any alternatives to going through London. I think I went up on Friday night to be there in time for Saturday morning but I honestly can't remember for sure. Anyway, I definitely didn't pay 257.


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: eXPassenger on March 29, 2019, 07:31:11 pm
I *think* Graham was referring to catching a taxi to his destination in Cambridge vice a bus if short for time, rather than catching a taxi across London

He was ... the London crossing by road is a gamble ... by underground is also a gamble but a bit less of one!   If the gamble fails then it's taxi from Cambridge to destination, remembering that taxis at Cambridge North at that time of day would need pre-ordering but are plentiful at Cambridge Main (can't call it "Central"!)

My apologies.  I misunderstood your original comment.


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: Bmblbzzz on April 06, 2019, 02:20:36 pm
This new service has come about because CrossCountry are now stabling a Class 170 DMU overnight at Bristol Barton Hill depot. Rather than run ECS to Gloucester it's been decided to start the passenger service from Bristol TM. Clearance work for Class 170s into the Bristol area is (or has) been done. Currently the service to Stansted Airport starts at Gloucester and the unit for it is, I believe, detached from a Birmingham New St to Cardiff Central service.
I've just reread this. Would I be right in thinking this means that it's effectively an extension of a current Gloucester to Stansted service, rather than a completely new service?


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: paul7755 on April 06, 2019, 02:57:20 pm
This new service has come about because CrossCountry are now stabling a Class 170 DMU overnight at Bristol Barton Hill depot. Rather than run ECS to Gloucester it's been decided to start the passenger service from Bristol TM. Clearance work for Class 170s into the Bristol area is (or has) been done. Currently the service to Stansted Airport starts at Gloucester and the unit for it is, I believe, detached from a Birmingham New St to Cardiff Central service.
I've just reread this. Would I be right in thinking this means that it's effectively an extension of a current Gloucester to Stansted service, rather than a completely new service?
Yes.  Its just a positive side effect of changing the stabling location, north of Gloucester its the same service as now.

Paul


Title: Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019
Post by: Bmblbzzz on April 06, 2019, 08:47:30 pm
Thanks.



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