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Title: Three new Rover tickets in GWR/SWR area. Great West Way Discoverer.
Post by: bignosemac on February 11, 2019, 11:04:49 am
Seemingly quietly slipped onto the market in January 2019 are three new Rover tickets that cover London Paddington/Waterloo to Bristol by GWR and SWR, as well as participating bus services along those routes.

The three new Rover tickets are:

Great West Way Discoverer Global 7 Day Offering unlimited off peak rail travel (after 0930 Mon-Fri, anytime at weekends/bank holidays) between London Paddington/Waterloo and Bristol Temple Meads for 7 consecutive days. On the routes via Didcot, Newbury and Salisbury. grahame will be pleased to hear its also valid through Melksham! Validity also extends to Frome. Also valid on selected bus routes along those rail lines including all First West of England bus services.

Cost is £239.00 with an approximately 10% discount for Railcard holders. Railcard discount is less than the usual 1/3 off due to validity on buses. Usual half fare for children.



Great West Way Discoverer East 1 day or 7 day Offering unlimited off peak travel (as above) between London Paddington and Swindon via Didcot, London Paddington and Westbury via Newbury, and between London Waterloo and Westbury via Salisbury. Again there is validity of selected bus services in the area covered by those rail lines.

Cost is £69.00 for the 1 day flavour, and £159.00 for the 7 consecutive day flavour. Railcard and child discounts as above.



Great West Way Discoverer West 1 day or 7 day Offering unlimited off peak rail travel (as above) between Hungerford/Swindon/Salisbury/Frome and Bristol Temple Meads. Again, Melksham is included. Validity on selected bus routes in the area covered, including all First West of England services.

Cost is £24.00 for the one day flavour and £69.00 for the 7 consecutive day flavour. Discounts as above.



Much more information, including maps, lists of valid bus services, station lists etc, can be found at the following links:

Global: http://www.railrover.org/pages/great-west-way-discoverer-global7day.html
East: http://www.railrover.org/pages/great-west-way-discoverer-east.html
West: http://www.railrover.org/pages/great-west-way-discoverer-west.html

There is also an associated 'Great West Way' website full of ideas and information on what can be seen and done along the routes.
https://www.greatwestway.co.uk



Title: Re: Three new Rover tickets in GWR/SWR area. Great West Way Discoverer.
Post by: martyjon on February 11, 2019, 11:21:38 am
Is that right ???? surely the second should be WEST.


Title: Re: Three new Rover tickets in GWR/SWR area. Great West Way Discoverer.
Post by: bobm on February 11, 2019, 11:28:41 am
Although both the GWR and SWR websites sell rover tickets on line - these have yet to be included.


Title: Re: Three new Rover tickets in GWR/SWR area. Great West Way Discoverer.
Post by: bignosemac on February 11, 2019, 11:31:40 am
Is that right ???? surely the second should be WEST.

Fixed that. Second one EAST, third one is WEST.


Title: Re: Three new Rover tickets in GWR/SWR area. Great West Way Discoverer.
Post by: TonyK on February 11, 2019, 03:41:40 pm
Looks potentially useful!


Title: Re: Three new Rover tickets in GWR/SWR area. Great West Way Discoverer.
Post by: grahame on February 11, 2019, 11:10:19 pm
Looks potentially useful!

Indeed ... I've been following the Great West Way quite closely / know what "it is".   Some of the choices of what's included and what's not look a bit odd to me - but then I'm sure there are reasons and it's very easy to criticise when I don't have background to the "whys"s and "wherefores".

The "Great West Way" is designed to help (or is funded by a government fund for) independent overseas travellers reach the wide range of places worth seeing, but away from the "Honey Pots" like Windsor Castle and Stonehenge - spread out the visitors for the general economy benefit of the corridor rather than having just a handful of places overcrowded taking the benefits without "spread"

Very interesting to note that - unlike other rover / ranger tickets that cover Paddington to Reading - the Thames branches are NOT included.  No Windsor!!  (No Marlow, No Henley).  It does not include the train too Oxford ... though you can get (on the Eastern ticket) to Oxford by bus from Reading or Swindon, to Windsor on the GreenLine Coach from Slough.  I would have thought it useful (and thinking for tourists) to have included Waterloo to Reading, and Reading to Basingstoke - certainly on the 7 day ticket.   But then that latter would mean including travel on Cross Country who are not part of the scheme.

Looking further west, Devizes can be reached from Swindon and Trowbridge on the tickets.  It can be reached from Bath in the evenings and Sundays only, and not from Salisbury or Pewsey (even though other services from the same operator are included on the ticket), and not from Chippenham (none of the services of the operator of that route are included. The tourist destination of Corsham can be reached on Sundays and in the evenings.  Both Marlborough and Avebury are included, but the short bus hop between them is not ... all in all a very interesting choice in Wiltshire

Looking further west again, the ticket takes you to Bristol Temple Meads - but only via Bath Spa.  As some services shift to running via Bristol Parkway, they're not included.   And you can reach places that, surely, tourists may want to see like Weston-super-mare and Avonmouth (and Nailsea) by bus but not by train.

If excellent combined timetables and an app with a journey planner are produced and the whole thing is thoroughly marketed, it may well be  a runaway success in its intended market.   If the information is not joined up, clear, and available in multiple languages, I see risks.   I hope a risk assessment has been done and solutions / mitigations planned.


Title: Re: Three new Rover tickets in GWR/SWR area. Great West Way Discoverer.
Post by: grahame on February 18, 2019, 12:54:36 pm
From the Great West Way web site

https://www.greatwestway.co.uk/explore/rail/great-west-way-discoverer-ticket


Quote
GREAT WEST WAY DISCOVERER TICKET
Available from January 2019 

Relax and journey along the Great West Way on the bus and rail network using the Great West Way Discoverer ticket.   The Great West Way Discoverer ticket makes travelling the route easy and hassle free. It includes unlimited off-peak train travel from London Paddington/Waterloo along the route to Bristol Temple Meads via Reading and or Basingstoke routes with options to branch off towards Oxford and Kemble. It also includes unlimited travel on the bus services along the route. Choose from a one, three day or week-long ticket to enjoy your Great West Way adventure.

Great West Way Discoverer Ticket will be available on GWR.com, in GWR stations and via GWR call centre.

If you’re travelling from overseas International tickets will be available online in early 2019. In advance of their release, please contact salesenquiries@gwr.com.
o    The international ticket is modelled on the Britrail Pass
o    Can be purchased up to 7 days prior travel
o    Can only be purchased from outside the UK
o    Ticket holders need to carry a non-UK ID.

For more information on travelling the Great West Way, take a look at our rail and bus pages for handy ideas and tips.

The description here seems to offer much more flexibility than the rail rover site (e.g. Kemble, 3 day tickets, implication of most / all bus services and trains to Oxford) but then it suggests that there's a special / different deal available for overseas visitors ...


Title: Re: Three new Rover tickets in GWR/SWR area. Great West Way Discoverer.
Post by: CyclingSid on February 18, 2019, 02:55:52 pm
Travel by Driving, Public Transport, Walking. No cycling? Not a good start.
Their cycling options are not the same thing.


Title: Re: Three new Rover tickets in GWR/SWR area. Great West Way Discoverer.
Post by: grahame on February 18, 2019, 07:13:46 pm
I am delighted to report further details and background received (thank you  ;) ) ... feeling better informed, more to follow.



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