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Title: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: SandTEngineer on February 15, 2019, 13:13:04
https://mobile.twitter.com/charliew7/status/1096375874163826689

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Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: grahame on February 15, 2019, 17:40:46
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-47258589

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About 80 passengers had to be evacuated from a train after smoke started to billow from it amid reports of a fire.
The fire was reported on the Manchester Piccadilly-Milford Haven service, Transport for Wales said, as it passed through Pontrilas, Herefordshire.

One witness said the train stopped shortly after 11.00 GMT, smoke was seen and passengers were asked to move carriages before getting out.

West Midlands Ambulance Service attended but no-one needed treatment.

Passenger Mike Robinson said: "The train stopped first and then it started to smoke and then the smoke just kind of got worse and worse...

"Then the staff kind of advised us to all move to carriage number one and then the fire brigade came and then the smoke just kind of continued for the next 30 minutes."

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Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: SandTEngineer on February 15, 2019, 18:04:11
Apparently the same unit caught fire last year.  Don't have any other details.


Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: Red Squirrel on February 15, 2019, 19:08:35
To catch fire once may be regarded as a misfortune; to do so twice looks like carelessness...


Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: phile on February 15, 2019, 19:42:20
Apparently the same unit caught fire last year.  Don't have any other details.

At Deganwy back in April


Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: onthecushions on February 15, 2019, 20:27:04

The BBC report said that passengers had to jump down on to the trackside/cess.

Don't passenger trains carry ladders these days?

OTC


Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: Adrian on February 15, 2019, 21:31:43
I guess there must be clauses in the contract between ToCs and ROSCOs about incidents such as this?   While the ROSCO owns the stock and therefore has a vested financial interest, it clearly has no part in the maintenance and operation of it.  In this case, I guess the damage will be repaired and the unit put back into service.  But in event of a vehicle being written off, things maybe start to get rather complicated?


Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: grahame on February 15, 2019, 21:51:10
... In this case, I guess the damage will be repaired and the unit put back into service.  But in event of a vehicle being written off, things maybe start to get rather complicated?

I would guess there might be some insurance ... which involves some sort of forethought as to "what if ..."


Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: jamestheredengine on February 16, 2019, 10:18:40
I guess there must be clauses in the contract between ToCs and ROSCOs about incidents such as this?   While the ROSCO owns the stock and therefore has a vested financial interest, it clearly has no part in the maintenance and operation of it.  In this case, I guess the damage will be repaired and the unit put back into service.  But in event of a vehicle being written off, things maybe start to get rather complicated?
And then there's the manufacturer, Alstom. As I understand it, the contract was to build and maintain the units.


Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: eightonedee on February 16, 2019, 14:04:43
Just as well that this was not their experimental hydrogen powered train.


Title: Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019
Post by: TonyK on February 16, 2019, 16:11:34
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-47258589

Passenger Mike Robinson said: "The train stopped first and then it started to smoke and then the smoke just kind of got worse and worse...

"Then the staff kind of advised us to all move to carriage number one and then the fire brigade came and then the smoke just kind of continued for the next 30 minutes."

[continues]

That was kind of them.

Just as well that this was not their experimental hydrogen powered train.

The project could have imploded there and then. I'm sure there are adequate safety measures, and the good old fashioned diesel technology could prove to be the heart of the problem here.



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