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Sideshoots - associated subjects => News, Help and Assistance => Topic started by: Bmblbzzz on March 08, 2019, 12:03:58



Title: Unseen posts
Post by: Bmblbzzz on March 08, 2019, 12:03:58
I started a thread http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=21169.0 then went away. Came back to the forum a little later, clicked on the new posts icon next to that topic and the first I saw was reply #2. I wouldn't have seen reply #1 at all if it hadn't been quoted in #2 (or unless I'd looked at the reply numbers, but I wouldn't). What's going on? There were no replies when I left the forum immediately after starting the thread.


Title: Re: Unseen posts
Post by: stuving on March 08, 2019, 12:31:16
I started a thread http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=21169.0 then went away. Came back to the forum a little later, clicked on the new posts icon next to that topic and the first I saw was reply #2. I wouldn't have seen reply #1 at all if it hadn't been quoted in #2 (or unless I'd looked at the reply numbers, but I wouldn't). What's going on? There were no replies when I left the forum immediately after starting the thread.

Do you mean the icon with the tooltip "Last post"?


Title: Re: Unseen posts
Post by: grahame on March 08, 2019, 12:36:52
I started a thread http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=21169.0 then went away.

...

There were no replies when I left the forum immediately after starting the thread.

There wouldn't be ... people take time to read and respond.

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Came back to the forum a little later, clicked on the new posts icon next to that topic and the first I saw was reply #2. I wouldn't have seen reply #1 at all if it hadn't been quoted in #2 (or unless I'd looked at the reply numbers, but I wouldn't). What's going on?

Does "went away" mean simply click to elsewhere online or logged out of the forum?   If you simply click elsewhere, the forum has no way of knowing you've gone away and has to guess whether or not you're reading, writing, or have gone away and are looking for something different for lunch (https://www.momontimeout.com/pineapple-cucumber-salad/).  I suspect reply #1 was made during that "guess he may still be here" period.


Title: Re: Unseen posts
Post by: Bmblbzzz on March 08, 2019, 14:07:52
Does "went away" mean simply click to elsewhere online or logged out of the forum?   If you simply click elsewhere, the forum has no way of knowing you've gone away and has to guess whether or not you're reading, writing, or have gone away and are looking for something different for lunch (https://www.momontimeout.com/pineapple-cucumber-salad/).  I suspect reply #1 was made during that "guess he may still be here" period.

I mean I closed that tab and went elsewhere webwise without logging out. I've got it set to automatically log me in or never log me out or whatever (saves remembering the password  ::)). Does that count me as being still logged in even when the forum isn't open? I'd never thought of it! Anyway, if so, that would explain it. Thanks.

PS. I like cucumber but not pineapple.


Title: Re: Unseen posts
Post by: grahame on March 08, 2019, 15:51:14
Does "went away" mean simply click to elsewhere online or logged out of the forum?   If you simply click elsewhere, the forum has no way of knowing you've gone away and has to guess whether or not you're reading, writing, or have gone away and are looking for something different for lunch (https://www.momontimeout.com/pineapple-cucumber-salad/).  I suspect reply #1 was made during that "guess he may still be here" period.

I mean I closed that tab and went elsewhere webwise without logging out. I've got it set to automatically log me in or never log me out or whatever (saves remembering the password  ::)). Does that count me as being still logged in even when the forum isn't open? I'd never thought of it! Anyway, if so, that would explain it. Thanks.

Yes, you're still counted as being here ... one of the conundrums of analysing web server logs is that they contain data about when a page was displayed on your browser, but not when you took it down.  So if I analyse a log file showing 5 different pages visited ... with intervals of (say) 30 seconds, 25 seconds, 60 seconds and 5 seconds between them, I know your visit lasted at least two minutes - but whether you move straight away from the 5th page when you realised it won't what you wanted, or stopped there for half an hour carefully reading it comes mostly down to guesswork.

As a re-assurance, I very very rarely look closely at visits unless something really strange gets flagged up.  I think I mentioned the 6000 page requests in an hour a couple of months back.


Title: Re: Unseen posts
Post by: grahame on March 13, 2019, 18:04:42
Sorry, late to the thread - no 'new thread' notification received. ...

When I saw that message earlier today, I wondered if the thread in question had been started while you were 'live' on the forum, but perhaps in a different board.   I'm posting here in "News, Help and Assistance" and if I simply post then walk away (to get a coffee - been a tough day) it's all too easy to overlook things posted / started in parallel, as they won't come up as "posted since you were last here".


Title: Re: Unseen posts
Post by: ChrisB on March 14, 2019, 11:36:19
I have email notifcations set up to notify me on new threads on boards that I have clicked the 'notify' button on (that's allboards!) and again on threads that I subscribe to. (click notify or post into)

I sometimes don't get an email notifcation of new threads being started.....

(fwiw - another reason not to ban those whose ghet bounces from emails - these email notifications may be bouncing too, not my afult in the slightest - or possibly a fault in the software & not being issued at all)



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