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Title: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 08, 2019, 19:46:16
Reading in to copyright ... https://www.dacs.org.uk/knowledge-base/factsheets/copyright-in-photographs ... and I think that most pictures taken before 1945 are now copyright free.   And if anyone can explain the detail and the rest in less than 1000 words, please do so.   That means I think I'm OK to post these and ask you where they are:

1.
(http://www.wellho.net/pix/oocp_1.jpg)

2. Paddington - Oxenhutch and Ellendune
(http://www.wellho.net/pix/oocp_2.jpg)

3. Kensington, Addison Road (now Olympia) - SandTEngineer
(http://www.wellho.net/pix/oocp_3.jpg)

4. Exeter Central - MVR S&T, was justdarkbeer
(http://www.wellho.net/pix/oocp_4.jpg)

5. Taunton - eightonedee
(http://www.wellho.net/pix/oocp_5.jpg)

6. Abbotsbury station - Bradshaw
(http://www.wellho.net/pix/oocp_6.jpg)


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: bradshaw on April 08, 2019, 20:04:15
6 Abbotsbury station c1908


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: Lee on April 08, 2019, 20:22:47
Probably completely wrong, but i thought 1 might be Bromham and Rowde Halt.


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: johnneyw on April 08, 2019, 20:28:53
Is 1 what was meant by the boat train! 😉


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 08, 2019, 20:41:54
Probably completely wrong, but i thought 1 might be Bromham and Rowde Halt.

It isn't .... no. 1 is a picture which, when you'll know, you'll have a wry smile.


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: Red Squirrel on April 08, 2019, 20:51:35
2. Apparently when Charles Collett heard that Nigel Gresley was building a pacific for the GNR, he said "What did that young man want to build it for? We could have sold him ours!"


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: eightonedee on April 08, 2019, 21:01:27
Would 5 be a photograph taken at the beginning of the famous weekend in 1892 when the last of the broad gauge was removed?


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: ellendune on April 08, 2019, 21:13:35
1.  There was a flood at Corsham in the 1930's I think. 


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: MVR S&T on April 08, 2019, 22:10:58
4. Exeter Central?


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: SandTEngineer on April 08, 2019, 22:21:18
3.  Kensington, Addison Road (now Olympia).


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 09, 2019, 02:20:47
I have marked up the three places identified correctly on the original post - thank you gentlemen. and indeed Abbotsbury was labelled as "Edwardian" so c1908 is indeed the right circa.

No. 1 - a well known flooding location, but not the ones named so far.

No. 5 - was stated as a date a couple of year away from the gauge change, rather being a station rebuild

No. 2 - yes, it's the GWR pacific  ;D

I note the (now deleted) post which reflected and enhanced my initial comments about taking care of copyright.   I have taken what I believe to be reasonable steps to check this set of images and be clear by many years in each case but it is a minefield and should anyone come back and tell me that any specific image shouldn't have been used, my posting is open to edit. The pictures here are 'just for fun' and there's no public interest case in posting them as we could have argued for the 153s parked up round the back at Eastleigh ten years ago, when trains were full, standing and recently shortened  (but I did have photographers's permission and encouragement).


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: martyjon on April 09, 2019, 04:01:25
I did think No 1 was on the long abandoned line which ran from the Bristol and Exeter line at Durston to join what was the newly constructed at the time the photo was taken Cogload Junction cut off on the Somerset levels between East and West Lyng which is not far from Burrowbridge which is a notorious flood spot regularly closing the Burrowbridge to East Lyng road.


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: martyjon on April 09, 2019, 04:14:27
2.  Yes the buffer beam 111 gives it away as The Great Bear, the only Pacific Class GWR built and with its route availability its not Marlow or Portishead but more likely to be Swindon or Paddington or Birkenhead(Woodside) might just fit into the thread heading.


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 09, 2019, 06:47:17
To clarify ... "the long long time ago" is when the pictures were taken;  all three remaining locations are still very much open.   There's not much of the background visible in the picture of "The Great Bear" but it's a scene I look at and can say I very much recognise.  The other two are more difficult; so many people in picture five that it's hard to see whether layout and features very, very familiar to members were there at the time, and picture no. 1 has you guessing along the right lines of "where floods?"


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: jamestheredengine on April 09, 2019, 07:52:38
2. The only place I can think of with that configuration of windows/arches is Bristol Temple Meads. Thought it was curvier than that though...


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: Oxonhutch on April 09, 2019, 08:03:02
2. Paddington, Platform 1 - pre-Great War


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: ellendune on April 09, 2019, 08:03:57
2. The only place I can think of with that configuration of windows/arches is Bristol Temple Meads. Thought it was curvier than that though...

I thought it looked like Paddington Platform 1 - Oxenhutch just beat me to it while I was posting


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 09, 2019, 08:29:06
2. Paddington, Platform 1 - pre-Great War

I thought it looked like Paddington Platform 1 - Oxenhutch just beat me to it while I was posting

Yes, it is Paddington ... not sure personally if it's standing in platform 1 or 3, with the Paddington "look" a couple of tracks behind it.  Quality too poor to be sure on the perspective.  Picture from 1910.


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: jamestheredengine on April 09, 2019, 08:36:05
1. Pilning?


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 09, 2019, 08:42:33
1. Pilning?

Nope.   Can't think of any record or photos (and goodness I have quite a few photos of Pilning!) of it flooding there.


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: SandTEngineer on April 09, 2019, 10:50:38
1. Creech St.Michael


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 09, 2019, 12:49:38
1. Creech St.Michael

Sorry - 'tain't . Guess of "Pilning" was geograhically much closer.

For the other remaining question ... come on folks ... this is a traditional quiz so there has to be a picture of ... ;D


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: johnneyw on April 09, 2019, 13:27:11
1. Creech St.Michael

Sorry - 'tain't . Guess of "Pilning" was geograhically much closer.

For the other remaining question ... come on folks ... this is a traditional quiz so there has to be a picture of ... ;D

The T word?


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: Western Pathfinder on April 09, 2019, 18:28:11
Might be Patchway cutting.


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 09, 2019, 18:44:08
Might be Patchway cutting.

but isn't  ;D


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: eightonedee on April 09, 2019, 21:21:32
Another (wild?) guess for no 5  - is this the "Taunton" one?


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 09, 2019, 21:41:47
Another (wild?) guess for no 5  - is this the "Taunton" one?

Indeed ....


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: bradshaw on April 09, 2019, 22:04:30
This was Taunton in 1895 then, when the platforms were lengthened and bay platforms were provided. Hence the narrow gauge bulk track, the station had been mixed gauge from the 1870s to 1892.


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 10, 2019, 00:20:30
Oh, you're all so funny.  ::)

When I returned home from work and caught up here on the Coffee Shop forum, I knew instantly that it was Taunton in 1895.

 :P


Title: Re: Six times upon a time, six long long times ago, there was a train. But where?
Post by: grahame on April 10, 2019, 11:09:05
Might be Patchway cutting.

but isn't  ;D

No. 1 is described as "works train in the flooded Sodbury cutting in November 1899" . See http://www.passenger.chat/10743 for some more recent flooding and alleviation works.



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