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Title: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: PhilWakely on May 01, 2019, 20:36:05
From the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48117366)

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UK government cancels Brexit ferry deals

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The Department for Transport is cancelling contracts to provide extra ferry services after Brexit.

Ending the contracts with Brittany Ferries and DFDS could cost the taxpayer more than £50m.

The government bought £89m worth of capacity from the two firms. Some of that capacity might be sold, but millions of pounds could be lost.

The contracts were designed to ease pressure on the port of Dover, by creating extra services at other ports.

In February, the DfT was forced to axe its £13.8m contract with a third company, Seaborne Freight, which the BBC found had never sailed a vessel.

Earlier this year, the National Audit Office estimated that the cancellation costs of all the ferry contracts would be £56.6m.

The cost is likely to only be several million pounds less than this.

A government spokesperson said: "The termination of these contracts has resulted in less cost to the taxpayer than the termination costs reported by the NAO."

The government was also forced to pay £33m to Eurotunnel, to settle a case which challenged the procurement process for the ferry contracts.

In addition, the DfT is now facing legal action from P&O Ferries, which says its rival, Eurotunnel, was given a competitive advantage by the government.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/71EC/production/_106046192_gettyimages-1091397428.jpg)
Brittany Ferries is one of the suppliers which had a contract to provide extra ferry services

'We needed to be ready'

Mr Grayling, the Transport Secretary, said the cancelled contracts were part of a £4bn no-deal "insurance policy" the government had put in place.

"People would expect a responsible government to take out an insurance policy, and that's what we've done, to make sure we can deal with all the challenges in a no-deal Brexit.

"We never wanted it, we never worked for it, but we sure as certain needed to be ready for it," he said.

If extra cross-Channel freight services are needed again in the run-up to the new Brexit deadline in October, the government could have to negotiate a new set of contracts, he said.

Grayling under fire

Labour shadow transport secretary Andy McDonald said the contracts will be "a case study in ministerial incompetence" on the part of Mr Grayling.

"The Transport Secretary's approach to procurement and planning has cost taxpayers tens, if not, hundreds of millions of pounds. His career as a minister has left a trail of scorched earth and billions of pounds of public money wasted.

"This country cannot afford Chris Grayling."



Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: JayMac on May 01, 2019, 21:37:19
https://newsthump.com/2019/05/01/chris-grayling-sells-tv-to-pay-for-netflix-subscription/


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: martyjon on July 24, 2019, 17:36:00
Radio 4 reporting Graylings resigned.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: grahame on July 24, 2019, 17:53:08
Radio 4 reporting Graylings resigned.

Jumped rather than pushed according to Sky News ...
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Chris Grayling resigned his position as transport secretary; he backed Johnson.

What do we write to the new Transport Secratary ... the forum's manifesto? - I will split that to a news thread if it takes off.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: TaplowGreen on July 24, 2019, 18:02:01
Just think...……...you'll have someone new to moan about and blame for everything soon, any preferences?  :)


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: grahame on July 24, 2019, 18:38:05
Just think...……...you'll have someone new to moan about and blame for everything soon, any preferences?  :)

A preference for someone with whom rather than about whom the passengers can have a moan. Someone who listens, learns and helps everyone partner to provide good, practical, safe, efficient, sensible cost transport for the future.  We know we'll moan with him / her as it will take time to reach those goals.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: JayMac on July 24, 2019, 19:36:55
Transport not yet announced. Jacob Rees-Mogg?  :P


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: Surrey 455 on July 24, 2019, 19:55:59
Transport not yet announced. Jacob Rees-Mogg?  :P

Is he familiar with newfangled forms of transport such as trains that run from elecktrickery?


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: chuffed on July 24, 2019, 20:06:03
One wonders whether he even knows what a wheel is. ;D


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: TaplowGreen on July 24, 2019, 20:18:56
Transport not yet announced. Jacob Rees-Mogg?  :P

It would be a boost for the pennyfarthing industry.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: grahame on July 25, 2019, 06:29:31
Topic split as Grant Shapps was announced as new Transport Secretary - at

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=21953.0


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: TonyK on July 25, 2019, 08:27:42

Is he familiar with newfangled forms of transport such as trains that run from elecktrickery?

Another Catweazle fan!


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: JayMac on July 25, 2019, 16:29:53
https://newsthump.com/2019/07/25/chris-grayling-accidentally-burns-down-local-mcdonalds-six-minutes-into-new-job/


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: grahame on July 26, 2019, 16:25:45
From Rail magazine (https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/grayling-advises-successor-on-transport-minefield)

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Grayling advises successor on transport ‘minefield’

Provocative headline  ;D


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: CMRail on July 26, 2019, 21:12:58
And another one  ;D

https://newsthump.com/2019/07/26/oopsie-says-chris-grayling-as-he-sits-at-home-watching-the-uks-transport-infrastructure-grind-to-a-halt/


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: JayMac on August 08, 2019, 22:18:20
Whilst Boris is hardly a safe pair of hands I suppose we should be grateful it was he visiting the UK Atomic Energy Authority today.

Imagine if it had been Chris Grayling. The home counties would have been laid to waste this evening, and Raymond Briggs would have been sharpening his pencil.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: johnneyw on August 08, 2019, 22:22:11
Whilst Boris is hardly a safe pair of hands I suppose we should be grateful it was he visiting the UK Atomic Energy Authority today.

Imagine if it had been Chris Grayling. The home counties would have been laid to waste this evening, and Raymond Briggs would have been sharpening his pencil.

Arf, I nearly spilt my glass of sweet sherry laughing at that one.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: Surrey 455 on October 27, 2019, 19:06:51

Is he familiar with newfangled forms of transport such as trains that run from elecktrickery?

Another Catweazle fan!

It's been a long time since I last saw Catweazle on TV. It will be repeated on Talking Pictures TV from Saturday 2nd November.

https://talkingpicturestv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/TPTV-Weekly-Highlights-28.10.19-1.pdf

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Catweazle comes to Talking Pictures TV
Stars: Geoffrey Bayldon, Robin Davies, Gary Warren, Neil McCarthy,
Charles ‘Bud’ Tingwell, Moray Watson and Peter Butterworth
plus many guest actors including: Patricia Hayes, Hattie Jacques,
John Junkin, Peter Sallis and Paul Eddington. The series ran
from 1970-1971 and was divided between three directors:
Quentin Lawrence, David Reid and David Lane. It was created by
Richard Carpenter, a prolific writer both for ITV and the BBC, who
contributed to The Adventures of Black Beauty and wrote Dick Turpin,
The Ghosts of Motley Hall and Robin of Sherwood, among others.
He won a Guild of Great Britain Award for Catweazle. Filled with
humour, warmth and charm, Catweazle captured the imagination of
children everywhere with Richard Carpenter’s story of a bumbling
magician and his pet toad, trapped nine hundred years ahead of their
own time. Geoffrey Bayldon gave an entrancing performance as
Catweazle the wizard, who mistakes all modern technology for powerful
magic, particularly “elec-trickery” (electricity) and the “telling bone”
(telephone). The series boasted a superb regular cast, plus guest
appearances by some of Britain’s finest actors of the period.
Airs: Sat 2nd Nov at 3:30pm & continues Saturdays & Sundays
at the same time


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: johnneyw on October 27, 2019, 19:31:42
I never saw Catweazle but had heared of it. Perhaps I wasn't in it's target age group (I'd have been about 11 or 12 when it first came out.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: Bmblbzzz on October 27, 2019, 20:03:02
I've definitely never seen Catweazle but elecktrickery is a common enough pun.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: SandTEngineer on October 27, 2019, 21:07:22
I've definitely never seen Catweazle but elecktrickery is a common enough pun.

Yes, we used it all the time "in them olden S&T days"......elecktrickery that is..... ::)


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: TonyK on October 27, 2019, 22:19:28
Yes, we used it all the time "in them olden S&T days"......elecktrickery that is..... ::)

I wonder who first coined it?


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: SandTEngineer on October 27, 2019, 22:23:06
Yes, we used it all the time "in them olden S&T days"......elecktrickery that is..... ::)

I wonder who first coined it?

Well, when I started in the S&T Gang way back in 1969, most of the gang were from Cheshire and they all used it....

Don't know whats this all got to do with Grayling but its certainly more interesting!


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: infoman on October 28, 2019, 06:14:36
not forgetting that Bristolians live in an aerial and not an area,

and you go careful,mind.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: TonyK on October 29, 2019, 08:42:05

Well, when I started in the S&T Gang way back in 1969, most of the gang were from Cheshire and they all used it....


That nails that one, then. Catweazle first appeared on television (then known in Cheshire as "witchcraft") in 1970.

not forgetting that Bristolians live in an aerial and not an area,


I once asked our security guard to say "It would be a good idea if Eva, Ida, and Norma were to leave this area, and go to live in America. With Monica." He couldn't understand why he brought the house down.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: didcotdean on October 29, 2019, 09:52:54
Google Ngrams (https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=electrickery&year_start=1920&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Celectrickery%3B%2Cc0) suggests the height of use of electrickery was in the 1940s, after appearing in the 1930s. Catweazle re-popularised it to some extent.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: chuffed on October 30, 2019, 16:42:06
My favourite 'areal' story about the Brizzle 'l' is the interviewer who asked a passer by to read the poster outside the 'Ippodrome. The poster read ...Eva Turner prima donna of the Carl Rosa Opera company will appear in Cavalliera Rusticana. It doesn't need too much imagination to work out what was actually said !


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 30, 2019, 20:54:30
Ah yes, that old chestnut:

The Bristol City  UNDERLGROUND !!?.

I sense the need for some elucidation: In linguistic terms (let's not get sidetracked by the excellent products of Bristol Commercial Vehicles Ltd) the Bristol 'L' is a letter that is only ever attached to the end of a word; indeed among students of Bristolian it is sometimes referred to as the 'terminal L'. The skill in applying it lies in the native knowledge of those words which are in danger of letting dust in - for the terminal L's purpose is to exclude dust where it might otherwise penetrate and cause damage. There is never any potential for particulate ingress in the middle of a word, so UNDERLGROUND is just not possible.

Maybe it would help to consider this shibboleth: "Eva Turner, prima donna of the Carl Rosa Opera". To a native it is a simple manner to assign L's as required; I'm sure all Bristol folk would agree that "Evil Turner, primal donnal of the Carol Rosal operal" sounds much better. A foreigner, maybe someone from north of Olveston or east of Keynsham, would almost certainly reveal themselves by applying the L to 'Turner', creating a vile chimera along the lines of "Turnall" or, worse, "Turnerl". The apparent gender reassignment (from Carl to Carol) is actually nothing more than a misunderstanding - it is simply the logical consequence of actually pronouncing the letter R, rather than dropping it as RP speakers insist on doing.




Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: TonyK on October 30, 2019, 23:35:52
I am obliged to m'learned friend, once more.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: Bmblbzzz on November 01, 2019, 07:55:54
In phonetic terms, Bristol terminal L only follows schwa (https://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/article/teaching-schwa) [at least I think it never follows proper, grown up vowels]. Therefore it is correct to say, as Prof. Squirrel has pointed out, that it's purpose is to keep the dust out.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: the void on November 01, 2019, 16:57:31
A member of my team was in complete shock when I explained that idea and ideal were two different words with two different meanings. She had gone 56 years believing they were interchangeable.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: Bmblbzzz on November 04, 2019, 21:49:40
Yesterday (Sunday) I heard someone ask for "Guaval juice." Despite its notoriety, the terminal L is not that often heard IME, but this was very distinct. The odd thing is it wasn't in Bristol! It was in Bath – close, but a different accent.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: Oxonhutch on November 05, 2019, 08:32:18
My late friend of Barrow Gurney - the village, not the institution - opined that the city's original name was Brist Ho!

... But that must have let the dust in.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: grahame on September 17, 2020, 17:59:03
Radio 4 reporting Graylings resigned.

Chris Grayling has returned to a part-time ports advisory job.  Reported by the RMT's Mick Cash (https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-leader-mick-cash-responds-to-chris-grayling-appointment/) ... who's view is not very positive, but perhaps a bit biased.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: Western Pathfinder on September 17, 2020, 19:09:16
Seems suitable after all he's had a great deal of experience of shipping and cargo operations oh wait a minute!...


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: johnneyw on September 17, 2020, 20:50:25
Going by his time at Transport, I fear hearing news soon of Felixstowe silting up and Harwich being invaded by aliens.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: TonyK on September 18, 2020, 07:53:34
"So that's Felixstowe in a nutshell, Mr G. Any questions before we move on to our corporate strategy for linear expansion in the ongoing post-Brexit situation?!

"Just one - that big metal floaty thing in the water, the one tied up to the stumpy bits sticking out of the concrete. Any idea what it is?"


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: broadgage on September 19, 2020, 10:11:03
Perhaps the "big floaty thing" is the spaceship containing the aliens whom have decided to invade Felixstowe instead of Harwich.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: eightonedee on September 19, 2020, 12:13:45
It is very difficult to work out what he brings to the job to justify the reported ?100k per year for 7 hours a week.

Perhaps they will use him as a kind of negative sounding board. If someone in their organisation comes up with a new idea, they'll put it to him and if he reacts enthusiastically they will know they should drop it straight away?


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: grahame on September 19, 2020, 15:29:22
It is very difficult to work out what he brings to the job to justify the reported ?100k per year for 7 hours a week.

Perhaps they will use him as a kind of negative sounding board ...

I have, in hindsight, come across organisations which have felt the need to refactor what they do / provide for their stakeholders in  a negative way, and they have appointed a heavyweight in the twighlight of his / her career who can take the knocks a bruises as they reduce the organisation, clearing the way for a newcomer at some point a year or two in the future who can rebuilt it - not as good as it was, but then everyone will think of it being good having been through the hatchet and wreckit phase.    I just wonder.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: broadgage on November 14, 2020, 14:59:51
Going by his time at Transport, I fear hearing news soon of Felixstowe silting up and Harwich being invaded by aliens.

Felixstowe may not have silted up but is reported to be "in chaos" with long delays to both ships and to trucks collecting containers for onward distribution.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54908129 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54908129)


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: TonyK on November 14, 2020, 15:18:20

Felixstowe may not have silted up but is reported to be "in chaos" with long delays to both ships and to trucks collecting containers for onward distribution.


That didn't take him long.


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: stuving on November 14, 2020, 15:58:26

Felixstowe may not have silted up but is reported to be "in chaos" with long delays to both ships and to trucks collecting containers for onward distribution.


That didn't take him long.

The reported congestion is on the landward side, which can't match what the ships can land. So, according the BBC news (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-54887972),  next year they (Harwich Haven Authority) are going to ... dredge the port and its approaches so bigger ships ("super-sized container vessels") can get in. If you look at the world through jaundice-coloured spectacles*, that can only make things worse! Unless it only applies to Harwich port ... which isn't clear.

(Who on earth could that be a reference to?)


Title: Re: Chris Grayling does it again - and is now gone
Post by: broadgage on July 28, 2022, 17:29:31
Still no silting up of Felixstow, but there is now a threat of strike action.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-62332822 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-62332822)

That could have serious consequences for supplies and prices of imported foods and other essential goods.



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