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Journey by Journey => Cross Country services => Topic started by: bradshaw on June 28, 2019, 08:56:27



Title: Short formations to the South West
Post by: bradshaw on June 28, 2019, 08:56:27
Cross Country seem to have caught the GWR problem. Over the last couple of days there have been significant short formations.

SHORT FORMATION: We are sorry but the 09:00 Glasgow Central to Penzance service is formed of 4 coaches instead of 8 today. Coaches G, I, J and L are not available. If you have a reservation and end up standing as a result....
Also
0925 Penzance to Dundee
https://twitter.com/crosscountryuk/status/1144500668872265730?s=21


Title: Re: Short formations to the South West
Post by: grahame on June 28, 2019, 09:13:44
Penzance to Dundee would be a record stand!!

With loads of parked-up HSTs, why are we seeing so many short formations?


Title: Re: Short formations to the South West
Post by: ray951 on June 28, 2019, 15:27:05
Penzance to Dundee would be a record stand!!

With loads of parked-up HSTs, why are we seeing so many short formations?

Because privatisation caused the ownership of the trains to be separated from the train operators. I would therefore assume that Cross Country would have to first have to agree a contract with the train owner and then have another discussion with the Dft over changes to the franchise contract and then probably a third discussion with Network Rail about access charges (so another contract). So why bother.

In this instance privatisation has been good for lawyers and rent extractors, but not passengers.


Title: Re: Short formations to the South West
Post by: bradshaw on June 29, 2019, 10:53:56
Another cosy journey today
From XC Twitter account

SHORT FORMATION: We are sorry but the 09:40  Newquay to Dundee service is formed of 4 coaches instead of 8 coaches today. Coaches G I J and L are unavailable. If you have a reservation and end up standing as a result, visit



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