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I have a request for a leaflet to hand out this Saturday to promote services from FROME.    It seems to be in B10, B1 and T7 from GWR and table 20 from SWR.   No Heart of Wessex line guide this year as I understand it.  Any suggestions?   Surely I have missed something!

Grahame, when I showed you a A4 leaflet on yellow paper, black print, you said you had one. This was in connection with a previous statement regarding the non production of a Heart Of Wessex Line Guide this summer. Would that cover the request made to your goodself.

Sounds like the Bradford-on-Avon sheet.  An excellent local timetable for that station.   

If I or someone had the time ... a black and white print on a pastel paper document could be produced - estimate volunteer work time 1 day - good thought that you lead me towards.   Problem to ensure accuracy.   Seen too many cases of inaccurate leaflets that are a laughing stock and worse, even with "E&OE" on them.

Been mucking about ... http://www.passenger.chat/frometrains.pdf ... difficult bit is how to automatically cover intermediate stations!

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You could make it a lot more use by including arrival times at the destinations you have listed.

One of the most common queries is "I know what time I want to be where....but what time do I need to catch a train to get there then?"

Totally agreed.  And sadly I could take a 20 minute automatic exercise forward into a whole day's project ....

Just quickly plotting sources and destinations is interesting ... shows what a presentation nightmare Frome is. The exercise is based on a fairly casual enquiry - I can take it further should it be further encouraged, otherwise I have plenty to do!   But IMHO, Frome does need a good local sheet - to include details at far end and at key stations for all services - Westbury, Trowbridge, Bath Spa, Bristol Temple Meads, Filton Abbey Wood, Bristol Parkway, Cheltenham Spa, Yeovil Pen Mill, Dorchester West, Reading.

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Is there an A-Z destination sheet(s) at Frome? If so, start off by taking a phone photo of it/them & using that data?

I'm not sure if there currently is - the issue of information for Frome station arose in the good old days when Catherine was the HoW CRO, I did the job on TransWilts, NR was station manager at Westbury and AM was in publicity at GWR; we got together to produce the first A-Z for Frome; a small station for such as sheet but one of a handful of special cases where it's logical.

I did wonder about seeing if there's still a sheet available - but scale is an issue and there never was a corresponding Z-A (there or anywhere).  Really something for the people who have taken over from all four names listed above to do, or decide that it's not a good use of their resource to do.

Hi All

I volunteer my services at the "Discover Frome Information Point" (ie tourist office run by Frome Town Council FTC) on certain days. There is currently no timetable summary for Frome available and we are obliged to hand out the B1 booklet. As many know this does have a BRI-WEY summary in the rear but as I advise my enquirers this is not the complete service from FRO which is only shown in the main table. Hardly user friendly but does show all the FRO extras.

FTC previously produced a summary leaflet for all BUS services from Frome but this has now been discontinued. So they will not be doing one for trains.

On the positive side there is indeed still a current A-Z table on display at FRO. This is a single poster size display. I will attempt a photo after my arrival on the anticipated 20.07 tomorrow and send it to Graham if it might be of use. I do a fairly regular trip from Leatherhead to FRO on many Thursdays but last time the FRO direct got cancelled (due to crew shortage!).

It does sounds that public transport use in and from Frome could be encouraged by the provision of better easy to understand data.  Elements of that have been provided in the past - but either decisions have been taken to discontinue so doing, or they have simply fallen by the wayside.  Not sure that it's anyone's "responsibility" or even that all transport operators would be required to co-operate; at least 2 train and 3 bus to my knowledge, and I may have overlooked some.


For the immediate request for this Saturday - thank you, but not enough time to produce anything. For the longer term (release for December 2019 timetable change??) would be useful to know what destinations are currently shown - whether it's been changed from the original a couple of years back.

On Frome buses - also note that the D2 changes from next Monday - with alternate buses going each way round Frome and known as D2A.   This has caused disquiet as certain timetable sources show D2 reduced from every 30 minutes to every 60 minutes ... until the reader realises there's a new table D2A.

Ref Heart of Wessex

WEST DORSET WESTERN AREA TRANSPORT ACTION GROUP (WATAG)
Extract from September meeting

https://transportactiongroup.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/111-sept19.pdf

Does anyone know anything about this?

A little.  The Heart of Wessex CRP is changing after the retirement of Catherine Phillips. The subject of how any Community Rail activities on Weymouth - Westbury - Bristol that it was undertaking are continued and in what form, funded by whom and organised / administered by whom were discussed.   Attendees were invited from, I believe, the other CRPs who operate (anywhere) in Wiltshire, GWR, and local government interested parties.   Not a public meeting by any stretch of the imagination (quite an exclusive group?) so not added to the forum diaries. With no Catherine around, I'm not sure who represented ongoing HoW CRP interests for station groups, etc.