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Journey by Journey => Wales local journeys => Topic started by: grahame on October 03, 2019, 06:25:03 am



Title: Truly local journeys in Wales on Senior bus cards
Post by: grahame on October 03, 2019, 06:25:03 am
From Wales Online (https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/travel/how-you-can-travel-free-17019943)

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How you can travel for free on these train routes in Wales until March

There are some routes where you can only travel through certain months of the year.

If you're a user of the concessionary bus pass scheme around Wales then you're in luck.

That's because there are many routes where you can travel for free.

To clarify - it's free at the point of travel.  I'm sure the TOC doesn't provide the service for nothing, being paid for journeys or getting an increased subsidy for running the trains from the taxpayer.  In my view, though, a sensible provision where (in essence) the train is the "local bus".

October to March:
Pwhelli to Macynlleth (not on school time journeys when trains busy to / from Harlech and Tywyn)
Knighton to Llanelli (and journeys from that section onwards to Swansea and Shrewsbury)

All year:
Wrexham General to Hawarden Bridge (noting Wrexham Central is NOT listed!)
Blaenau Ffestiniog to Llandudno (appears to include all trains Llandudno - Llandudno Junction)




Title: Re: Truly local journeys in Wales on Senior bus cards
Post by: eXPassenger on October 03, 2019, 03:56:51 pm

Remember that the English senior bus passes are not valid in Wales.


Title: Re: Truly local journeys in Wales on Senior bus cards
Post by: rogerw on October 03, 2019, 04:16:35 pm
In the interest of clarity, neither are the Welsh ones valid in England


Title: Re: Truly local journeys in Wales on Senior bus cards
Post by: chuffed on October 03, 2019, 08:18:00 pm
Neither of the last two comments are quite right. English cards can be used on Severn Express now operated by Stagecoach as far as Chepstow and Newport. And a Stagecoach dayrider can be purchased in South Wales with an ENCTS card. Conversely it would seem that Welsh passes can be used as far as Bristol. Some other counties either side of the border have their own cross order agreements eg Shrewsbury. On the first day of English bus passes in 2008 I had a day out in Cwmbran(of all places) using my disabled ENCTS card, just because I could !


Title: Re: Truly local journeys in Wales on Senior bus cards
Post by: LiskeardRich on October 03, 2019, 09:27:25 pm
Neither of the last two comments are quite right. English cards can be used on Severn Express now operated by Stagecoach as far as Chepstow and Newport. And a Stagecoach dayrider can be purchased in South Wales with an ENCTS card. Conversely it would seem that Welsh passes can be used as far as Bristol. Some other counties either side of the border have their own cross order agreements eg Shrewsbury. On the first day of English bus passes in 2008 I had a day out in Cwmbran(of all places) using my disabled ENCTS card, just because I could !

Itís valid where you board. So an English card should only be valid Bristol to Newport but not the return journey. Vice versa for welsh cards.

Likewise where restrictions apply/ donít apply the restrictions for the location you board apply. For example Cornwall council have removed time restrictions, so you can travel Saltash to Plymouth 24/7 but Plymouth to Saltash can only be done between 0930-2300


Title: Re: Truly local journeys in Wales on Senior bus cards
Post by: chuffed on October 04, 2019, 01:29:25 am
I have done the return journey from Chepstow and Newport with my ENCTS card,many times with no questions asked.



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