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Journey by Journey => Shorter journeys in Devon => Topic started by: infoman on October 21, 2019, 05:20:09



Title: Exeter to Barnstaple via Exeter WHY?
Post by: infoman on October 21, 2019, 05:20:09
Due to the engineering work taking place on the Exeter to Barnstaple line.

Could a fast bus service's not have been provided from Tiverton to Barnstaple?



Title: Re: Exeter to Barnstaple via Exeter WHY?
Post by: Timmer on October 21, 2019, 06:14:03
A question you could ask GWR?

Probably not enough demand.


Title: Re: Exeter to Barnstaple via Exeter WHY?
Post by: grahame on October 21, 2019, 06:19:41
Due to the engineering work taking place on the Exeter to Barnstaple line.

Could a fast bus service's not have been provided from Tiverton to Barnstaple?

A question you could ask GWR?

Probably not enough demand.

1 hour and 4 minutes from Exeter to Barnstaple by car ... 47 minutes from Tiverton Junction to Barnstaple according to Google.

But I expect Timmer is right ... and a service has to be provided from Exeter / who would pay for the extra service that would probably cost more to run than it would generate in extra income.


Title: Re: Exeter to Barnstaple via Exeter WHY?
Post by: Umberleigh on October 24, 2019, 18:55:39
There was at least one attempt to set up a Tivvy Parkway to Barnstaple fast bus after the link road opened, starting with a ‘taxi-bus’ to gauge demand. I guess there wasn’t that much, unless anyone knows any different?


Title: Re: Exeter to Barnstaple via Exeter WHY?
Post by: infoman on October 25, 2019, 06:42:09
I remember someone saying along time ago

 that the reason the Tiverton Parkway express road was built was an attempt to close the Exeter to Barnstaple rail line.


Title: Re: Exeter to Barnstaple via Exeter WHY?
Post by: Umberleigh on November 05, 2019, 19:25:05
I remember someone saying along time ago

 that the reason the Tiverton Parkway express road was built was an attempt to close the Exeter to Barnstaple rail line.

I well remember speculation in the press at that time that it would spell the end of the Tarka Line. My own family members were quick to start using Tivvy Parkway (41 miles) instead of the short drive to Umberleigh station (2 miles) for trips to London and the North.

I don’t think it was any coincidence that Barnstaple freight yard was closed and sold off just after the Link Road opened (Closure of the Torrington line was officially due to a lack of funding for new air-braked wagons, but ‘coincidentally’ happened at the same time). A consequence of the freight yard closure was the closure of Barnstaple signal box (and probably the Eggesford closure too).

The outcome was that the clay and Blue Circle freight moved to road and the fertiliser traffic had to switch to Lapford yard. Quite a significant loss of income, although BR made a hefty sum flogging off the yard. Also lost were the loco hauled services and the passing loop at Barnstaple was lifted.

So was this all a precursor to closing the passenger services? BR had installed new signalling between EXD and north of Crediton  at around that time, which seemed a vote of confidence and not needed if it were to become freight only to Meldon in the future, so maybe not.

Miss the freight though, one off the last branches in Britain to have a daily mixed freight, and the Torrington/Meeth line was a savage loss to what was left of North Devon’s railway infrastructure.

Anyway, every time I travel the line I’m grateful that it clung on and has since prospered.



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