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Title: The fate of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: grahame on November 22, 2019, 11:34:08
Running express train out of Paddington is rather akin to spraying bullets out of a gun - to (or towards) Hereford, Cheltenham Spa, Swansea, Weston-super-Mare and Penzance. Local east - west trains must nip in smartish behind a bullet and get out of the way before the next bullet hits.  Local north - south trains must dodge bullets as they come flying past, nipping in and out where they can.

Come 15th December, the rate of fire of bullets is to be stepped up, and the bullets are going to travel faster too.  It's the biggest timetable change since 1976, and virtually every bullet will be retimed.  Money has been invested in making the trains faster and more frequent, and London is the target. Once the bullets were timetabled clock face and fast, the schedulers had the job of fitting in the second class trains as best they can to (a) avoid clashing with the new bullet times, (b) plan acceptably to Network Rail (c) meet their government contract (d) work in such a way that freight trains can get through and their own trains can get to servicing points as necessary (e) do all of the preceding in the best economic way for their shareholders and (f) provide a service tuned to customer needs.  It's a tall order and I have a huge respect for the transport planners and timetablers who have been working on this for years!

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/bullettrain.jpg)

As I write (prior to the changes) there are a number of strange-looking trains around.  Some are the result of history and fulfil little purpose, others have developed over many years and meet specific requirements.  And a number of those trains have developed a regular and faithful customer base - "provide it and people will use it" has oft been said, and unless it's really weird, if it's been provided people have built up and used the service.   Come 15th December, much of this local tuning is being swept away ... plans were to sweep even cleaner, but consultation with a number of informed community members on Monday to Friday services (only) has resulted in the majority - but not all - of our concerns being addressed better than they were in the first draft.  Saturday and Sunday, we have to take what we're given (and, oh dear, there are some fixes needed)

So, great from mid December it will be great for anyone travelling to or from London.  For those at the outer reaches of the bullets – where they have thinned out - there are some notable improvements.  In between, we're getting what can be fitted in, on an increasingly crowded railway.  Where it mains poorly timed trains, missed connections, and even trains stopping one station short of  major interchange, that's happening.  Concentration has been on a clean run for the bullets and train planners have had limited time (and low priority) to fix other issues for passengers.

Service improvements many come incrementally, but at times they come in leaps.  We do have the opportunity for December 2020 to take some steps forward once we see how the new services bed in, and with the train planners work load on the expresses being reduced for the next cycle. And with "DA3" - the next franchise period due to start on 1st April 2020 - there is a chance that the spec has been altered to be more suitable for the future.  We know that First put a bid in in June, and they're waiting to hear from the Department for Transport whether it's being accepted or negotiated.   Yes, I know they've had it for 5 months and there's just 4 months to go.

So – summary – we get what we're given in local services from 15th December.  Not ideal, some steps backward, some forward. Far better than it might have been and was originally proposed.  And looking forward to the next cycle which may offer the opportunity to put train planner resources into amending the times and requesting the government spec for the mutual benefit of passengers, of the train operators, and the taxpayer.

Please excuse the awful graphic .... another story!

For Coffee Shop regulars - little new above - bringing the story together for new readers!


Title: Re: The fete of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: ChrisB on November 22, 2019, 11:37:35
That'd be 'fate', Graham.


Title: Re: The fete of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: TaplowGreen on November 22, 2019, 11:46:06
Can't help feeling that major problems are a "fait" accompli.


Title: Re: The fete of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: chuffed on November 22, 2019, 11:47:48
When I saw the thread title, I thought GWR were putting the flags and bunting out........ ::)


Title: Re: The fate of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: Red Squirrel on November 22, 2019, 13:45:08
That was one of grahame's better ones... I have fixed it.


Title: Re: The fate of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: Red Squirrel on November 22, 2019, 13:47:19

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/bullettrain.jpg)

As I write (prior to the changes) there are a number of strange-looking trains around...

Well the one in the picture looks particularly odd... is it Japanese?


Title: Re: The fate of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: ray951 on November 22, 2019, 16:05:06

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/bullettrain.jpg)

As I write (prior to the changes) there are a number of strange-looking trains around...

Well the one in the picture looks particularly odd... is it Japanese?
Well didn't the bullet train start in Japan :)


Title: Re: The fete of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: broadgage on November 22, 2019, 17:12:11
Can't help feeling that major problems are a "fait" accompli.

A new timetable brings with it considerable challenges even if everything else works correctly.
Insufficient staff to reliably operate the present timetable, unreliable infrastructure, and trains that have yet to achieve the expected levels of availability, more or less promises major problems.


Title: Re: The fate of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: IndustryInsider on November 22, 2019, 18:30:51
The infrastructure and trains have been behaving pretty well recently, the major issue for me is crew availability and whether a timetable that works on paper will work in practice.

A launch in December means a risk in terms of crew availability (I’m expecting lots of cancellations) but that should quickly diminish in the new year, but potentially rear its ugly head again next Summer - especially on Sunday’s.  The workability of the new timetable remains largely an unknown to everyone - fingers will be crossed.

Everyone is expecting a bit of a dip initially, even the MD, but I’m sure everyone on here will be hoping it goes well after the settling in period?  :-\


Title: Re: The fete of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: Bmblbzzz on November 22, 2019, 19:51:26
When I saw the thread title, I thought GWR were putting the flags and bunting out........ ::)
It's still fete in the "most liked" list. Makes me think Melksham carnival must be a bloodthirsty event!


Title: Re: The fate of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: grahame on November 22, 2019, 23:32:12
When I saw the thread title, I thought GWR were putting the flags and bunting out........ ::)
It's still fete in the "most liked" list. Makes me think Melksham carnival must be a bloodthirsty event!

Flushing through subject lines - even for an admin - is a compound manoeuvre.  And me thinks I leave it undone as the lighter style discussion here (based on what was an error in titling by me this morning) helps draw attention to (and a smile from) the very serious topic of "what is the fate of local trains sharing lines with the increasing London expresses?", and the sad answer "they are somewhat squeezed and compromised".


Title: Re: The fate of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: Bmblbzzz on November 23, 2019, 17:07:40
When I saw the thread title, I thought GWR were putting the flags and bunting out........ ::)
It's still fete in the "most liked" list. Makes me think Melksham carnival must be a bloodthirsty event!

Flushing through subject lines - even for an admin - is a compound manoeuvre.  And me thinks I leave it undone as the lighter style discussion here (based on what was an error in titling by me this morning) helps draw attention to (and a smile from) the very serious topic of "what is the fate of local trains sharing lines with the increasing London expresses?", and the sad answer "they are somewhat squeezed and compromised".
Let's hope that efforts to improve the situation aren't just titling at windmills. Erm, I mean tilting! ;D


Title: Re: The fate of local trains - dodging the Paddington bullets
Post by: CyclingSid on November 24, 2019, 08:32:17
Nominations for Don Quixote and Sancho Panza?



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