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Title: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: infoman on November 28, 2019, 01:51:53 pm
To celebrate Nancy Astor,BBC South west news had pictures from Paddington.

I would have thought BBC South west will have the occasion featured on their 18:30pm news programme


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: bobm on November 28, 2019, 02:06:00 pm
Invited guests then travelled on the train to Plymouth to see an unveiling of a statue of Nancy Astor. 


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: Gordon the Blue Engine on November 28, 2019, 03:27:10 pm
I thought I read somewhere that this train, which was presumably 1Z19 0733 Padd – Plymouth, was to be entirely crewed by female staff, which would have been a nice touch, even if a bit non-PC.   As the GWR Press release doesn’t mention this I presume it didn’t happen.


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: CyclingSid on November 29, 2019, 06:58:58 am
Did it stop at Taplow, Cliveden being the home of the Astor family?


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: TaplowGreen on November 29, 2019, 07:23:04 am
Did it stop at Taplow, Cliveden being the home of the Astor family?

No  :)


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: Pb_devon on November 29, 2019, 08:45:41 am
I thought I read somewhere that this train, which was presumably 1Z19 0733 Padd – Plymouth, was to be entirely crewed by female staff, which would have been a nice touch, even if a bit non-PC.   As the GWR Press release doesn’t mention this I presume it didn’t happen.

Plymouth Herald reports it was an all female crew, and has a quote from the Plymouth based driver for the run into Plymouth.
I was on the Hoe for the unveiling and glimpsed what appeared to be a handout from GWR, celebrating women and the railways.
Citybus have also liveried a new double deck bus to mark the day.


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: stuving on November 29, 2019, 09:02:25 am
Did it stop at Taplow, Cliveden being the home of the Astor family?

It stopped only at Reading and Exeter. It did the same thing as it came straight back to Royal Oak as ECS (5Z20), for some reason. (Dropping off railway staff?).

I just caught it leaving Reading P11 at 14:48, and was puzzled as to what this funny-looking "not for public use" train was (from too far to see the details). Two things were odd: some red signs or symbols high up on the side of each carriage, and a wider silver-white stripe along the waist (possibly above the usual narrow one). The signs would make sense for this special, but what was that stripe about (assuming I didn't imagine it)? I've not found any clear side-on pictures of it (as usual).


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: Rob on the hill on November 29, 2019, 12:35:30 pm
Did it stop at Taplow, Cliveden being the home of the Astor family?

It stopped only at Reading and Exeter. It did the same thing as it came straight back to Royal Oak as ECS (5Z20), for some reason. (Dropping off railway staff?).

I just caught it leaving Reading P11 at 14:48, and was puzzled as to what this funny-looking "not for public use" train was (from too far to see the details). Two things were odd: some red signs or symbols high up on the side of each carriage, and a wider silver-white stripe along the waist (possibly above the usual narrow one). The signs would make sense for this special, but what was that stripe about (assuming I didn't imagine it)? I've not found any clear side-on pictures of it (as usual).

I suspect you saw 800306?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/135904245@N05/31929167268


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: stuving on November 29, 2019, 01:03:04 pm
I suspect you saw 800306?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/135904245@N05/31929167268

Yes - and seen closer it's familiar, though I don't think I've seen it since its naming last year. It must have been the service from WSM that was on P10 and left just before Nancy, hiding her from view.

Though the question is now why does that one have an extra extrawide stripe - or are there loads of them?


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: PhilWakely on November 29, 2019, 01:22:58 pm
Though the question is now why does that one have an extra extrawide stripe - or are there loads of them?

The IET equivalent of the HST power car 43172 'Harry Patch'.   The white stripes below the windows contain the names of 2,500 GWR staff who fell.


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: Rob on the hill on November 29, 2019, 02:26:14 pm
Here's a close-up of the GWR fallen on 800306, which also includes details of where they worked and where they are buried/remembered.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/135904245@N05/30860638987/in/photostream/


Title: Re: Naming and unveiling of IET at Paddington
Post by: IndustryInsider on December 05, 2019, 03:59:57 pm
There's been a fairly significant backlash amongst staff for this naming, given Nancy Astor's anti-Semitic and racist views.  It's seen as going against GWR's big drive for 'inclusiveness' principles of late.



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