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Title: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: bobm on December 04, 2019, 03:12:32 pm
TfL have updated the iconic underground map to include their new service to Reading

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/rdgtube.jpg)


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: grahame on December 04, 2019, 06:20:42 pm
TfL have updated the iconic underground map to include their new service to Reading

"Not to scale" / looks like something of a kludge.   Wonder how long it takes to walk from Reading to Northolt - looks do-able!


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: DidcotPunter on December 04, 2019, 06:21:33 pm
What a mess  >:( Harry Beck must be turning in his grave.


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: Reading General on December 04, 2019, 06:39:14 pm
I really canít see what the benefit of this is to anybody


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: Bmblbzzz on December 04, 2019, 06:50:24 pm
American tourists looking for Shakespeare in East London and dreaming spires on Oxford Street (or who go to the city looking for the famous shops) are now going to have even more scope for confusion. 


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: paul7755 on December 04, 2019, 09:53:36 pm
TfL have updated the iconic underground map to include their new service to Reading

"Not to scale" / looks like something of a kludge.   Wonder how long it takes to walk from Reading to Northolt - looks do-able!
There used to be a compressed map of the Southern network on their trains which effectively had Southampton and Milton Keynes within walking distance. 

I wonder what the record is for distorting the countryside on these type of diagrams...

Paul


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: onthecushions on December 04, 2019, 11:50:55 pm

The  map seems to suggest that Reading etc, is in Zone 6 but that Oyster isn't installed.

Woe betide anyone believing the map and arriving at the Royal County Town with just an all zone travelcard.

OTC



Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: eightf48544 on December 05, 2019, 01:27:02 pm

The  map seems to suggest that Reading etc, is in Zone 6 but that Oyster isn't installed.


I think the blue background denotes Reading is in the sea.


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: PhilWakely on December 05, 2019, 01:57:43 pm
What is so surprising about Reading appearing on the London Tube map? Exeter has been in the South East for many years!   ;D :P


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: ChrisB on December 05, 2019, 02:09:55 pm
Writing within the blue zone says "outside the zonal fare arwa"


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: Reading General on December 05, 2019, 02:11:55 pm

The  map seems to suggest that Reading etc, is in Zone 6 but that Oyster isn't installed.


I think the blue background denotes Reading is in the sea.
If only Berkshire was an island.


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: stuving on December 05, 2019, 02:46:03 pm
If only Berkshire was an island.

Where would that have left us all when it was abolished?


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: didcotdean on December 05, 2019, 03:36:38 pm
This map should be renamed at some stage TfL Rail Services, perhaps when Crossrail / Elizabeth is completed when TfL Rail would become redundant as a service name. Actually this would go back in a way to the 1950s where for a few years the Underground Map became the Railways Map, before reverting to the Underground and finally the Tube. At least that would kill off the logic of the argument about why Thameslink isn't included, sensible to the travelling public though that might be.


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: Reading General on December 05, 2019, 04:19:37 pm
The map should really only show london travelcard/oyster validity stations and anywhere beyond the line leading of the edge of the map with explanation. I guess placing the Berkshire (and Buckinghamshire) stations  on there is a marketing idea to make a thing of it, to make it appear that something is happening. As I said, there is no benefit to either London or Reading showing this on the map. The Harry Beck theory works for a London tube map but for longer distances it only causes confusion. If tfl begin there own or take over a fast GWR service would Bath and Bristol, for example, appear on the map in the same manner?


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: Reading General on December 05, 2019, 04:22:55 pm
If only Berkshire was an island.

Where would that have left us all when it was abolished?
The choice for one single authority probably would have been made or divided into three. Lets not get into another local boundary topic deviation  ;D


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: paul7755 on December 05, 2019, 05:19:29 pm
The map should really only show london travelcard/oyster validity stations and anywhere beyond the line leading of the edge of the map with explanation. I guess placing the Berkshire (and Buckinghamshire) stations  on there is a marketing idea to make a thing of it, to make it appear that something is happening. As I said, there is no benefit to either London or Reading showing this on the map. The Harry Beck theory works for a London tube map but for longer distances it only causes confusion. If tfl begin there own or take over a fast GWR service would Bath and Bristol, for example, appear on the map in the same manner?
Itís consistent with the stations on other routes such as the GN, that are either outside the zones, or where only contactless fares are available.  That horse had already bolted...

Paul


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: CyclingSid on December 06, 2019, 07:13:30 am
Quote
I think the blue background denotes Reading is in the sea.

or did you mean Reading is at sea?


Title: Re: Reading now on the Underground Map
Post by: eightf48544 on December 06, 2019, 11:58:33 am
American tourists looking for Shakespeare in East London and dreaming spires on Oxford Street (or who go to the city looking for the famous shops) are now going to have even more scope for confusion. 

Good job it doesn't show Windsor!




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