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Title: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: LawrenceHillbilly on January 20, 2020, 13:10:38
Twitter reports that a train hit some hunting dogs on Saturday. Judging by Real-time trains it was in the Badminton area

https://mobile.twitter.com/BluntThomas/status/1218529333842546693 (https://mobile.twitter.com/BluntThomas/status/1218529333842546693)

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“Cardiff to London train has stopped, as hunting hounds strayed onto the track, and the train ahead has hit them. The word “carnage” was used..”

Sympathies to all concerned. Sounds nasty


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 20, 2020, 13:21:55
That sort of thing used to be a far more common occurrence!


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: Witham Bobby on January 20, 2020, 15:28:30
Nasty

A scene involving a hunt and a train appears in the 1973 film "The Belstone Fox".  The scene included a D70XX Hymek class loco and a short goods train.  Filmed near Leigh Woods Level Crossing on the now West Somerset Railway during the time it was closed-down after BR had withdrawn services


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: Phil on January 21, 2020, 18:36:12
That happened around here (nr. Erlestoke) a couple of years back, except the hunting dogs didn't "stray" onto the main line, they were deliberately directed there by hunt saboteurs.


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: Incider on January 21, 2020, 20:37:35
Twitter reports that a train hit some hunting dogs on Saturday. Judging by Real-time trains it was in the Badminton area

https://mobile.twitter.com/BluntThomas/status/1218529333842546693 (https://mobile.twitter.com/BluntThomas/status/1218529333842546693)

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“Cardiff to London train has stopped, as hunting hounds strayed onto the track, and the train ahead has hit them. The word “carnage” was used..”

Sympathies to all concerned. Sounds nasty

2 hounds killed, no significant damage to train.


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: JayMac on January 22, 2020, 00:18:15
Of course, if the outdated and pointless practice of hunting with dogs - even drag hunting - had already been consigned to history, then this incident would never have occurred.

Those responsible for allowing, or directing, the dogs onto the railway should be prosecuted.


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 22, 2020, 05:42:31
That happened around here (nr. Erlestoke) a couple of years back, except the hunting dogs didn't "stray" onto the main line, they were deliberately directed there by hunt saboteurs.


Lovely people aren't they?

I remember seeing them once at a Devon hunt scattering ball bearings under the horses hooves.

All brave boys hiding behind their balaclavas.


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: broadgage on January 22, 2020, 08:20:17
Whilst I am opposed to hunting, I have no sympathy for violent tactics used by hunt saboteurs, especially when such tactics result in harm or distress to horse, dogs or other animals.
Hunting of wild mammals with dogs has been prohibited for some years, and whilst drag hunting and other substitutes that don't involve live victims are permitted, they seem to be declining in popularity.

I support the killing of foxes when they are causing significant harm to young lambs or other livestock, this is permitted AFAIK.


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 22, 2020, 18:08:00


I support the killing of foxes when they are causing significant harm to young lambs or other livestock, this is permitted AFAIK.

Farmers can shoot foxes and other vermin - my late cousin who farmed in Cornwall and his labourers took a pretty heavy toll of them every lambing season when Mr Fox would hang around unsettling the ewes and hoping to grab a lamb.

Similarly they can also shoot dogs if they are worrying sheep or other livestock.


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: grahame on January 24, 2020, 18:14:52
More on this in South West Farmer (https://www.southwestfarmer.co.uk/news/18182453.beaufort-hunt-hounds-killed-train-following-scent/).

Edit to add

And in the Gazette (https://www.gazetteseries.co.uk/news/18184948.beaufort-hunt-apologises-hounds-killed-train-tragic-accident/)


Title: Re: Hunting Dogs on the line
Post by: broadgage on January 25, 2020, 14:41:57
It sounds to me as though the law was broken.
It is reported that the hounds were following a scent. To me that implies that either the scent for drag hunting was laid along or across the line, Or that the hounds were illegally pursuing an actual fox.



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