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Title: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: grahame on February 16, 2020, 11:24:50
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Got on the train at reading to go theale ticket man said train to Newbury got on the train and guess what it only stop at Newbury NOT theale !!

We were very concerned at people getting onto any eastbound train from Chippenham and from Bristol Parkway and expecting it to stop at Swindon after the timetable changes in December, but I have not heard of stories of overcarrys.  Mind you, I expect people would be rather embarrassed to post.

Above is one that as far as I was aware hadn't been flagged up - getting on a destination Newbury train at Reading on an assumption it would stop at Theale.  Are there others?


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: Thatcham Crossing on February 16, 2020, 11:53:41
Maybe one of the hourly Electrostars running PAD>>RDG>>NBY only (and return) during weekdays since the Dec TT change?


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: Electric train on February 16, 2020, 12:05:38
Or getting on a GWR train at Ealing Broadway expecting it to stop at Southall, finding out next stop Hayes.

This has happened to quite a few people, despite all the announcements


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: stuving on February 16, 2020, 17:54:29
Or getting on a GWR train at Ealing Broadway expecting it to stop at Southall, finding out next stop Hayes.

This has happened to quite a few people, despite all the announcements

That's not new, is it? There has "always" been a variety of stopping patterns. At least for Southall you can now be told "you want a purple train" - at least until TfL Rail start playing with their stopping patterns. But for Acton, Hanwell, or West Ealing it's go to be the right kind of purple train.

By the way, does anyone else think it's bad practice for GWR to leave out of their relevant timetable (T10) all TfL trains that serve Heathrow, and all stations served only by TfL Rail trains? It looks especially odd that West Ealing, obviously part of the Greenford timetable in the same book, isn't mentioned in the main line tables.


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: Reading General on February 16, 2020, 18:42:51
Yes, it seems a little ridiculous, and that both are trying to directly compete. I noticed that the Crossrail timetable at Maidenhead on the platform doesn't include any GWR trains too. I thought public transport was to be encouraged, not stifled by individual companies.


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: grahame on February 16, 2020, 19:25:09
Yes, it seems a little ridiculous, and that both are trying to directly compete. I noticed that the Crossrail timetable at Maidenhead on the platform doesn't include any GWR trains too. I thought public transport was to be encouraged, not stifled by individual companies.

The nightmare absurdity of different businesses competing on the same corridor which ends up doing neither / none of them any good.   Don't get me going in this thread ...


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: Ollie on February 16, 2020, 20:06:55
Or getting on a GWR train at Ealing Broadway expecting it to stop at Southall, finding out next stop Hayes.

This has happened to quite a few people, despite all the announcements

One of the reasons I wait a bit at Ealing on the down and Hayes on the up and if dwell time, replay announcement or make a manual one. Often at least 1 person that darts back to the platform again.


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: Robin Summerhill on February 16, 2020, 20:29:14

... but I have not heard of stories of overcarrys.  Mind you, I expect people would be rather embarrassed to post.

I've never been embarrased about my overcarrys, even the time when I was travelling from Reading to Bristol on what we used to know as the "Down Waker." I just dozed off for a few seconds, and woke up at Cowley Bridge... I may have had a few that night though...

But my luckiest overcarry, so to speak, was this:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/93122458@N08/8473502393/


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: JayMac on February 17, 2020, 05:58:23
My one and only overcarry saw me in Birmingham New St instead of Bristol Temple Meads.

It was the last fast (XC) train from Taunton after a rather long day of, er, conviviality with an old school friend.

Woken by cleaners at New St, fortunately before the set went off to Central Rivers. Nothing back southbound until the morning. No choice but to go find a hotel.

CrossCountry staff at New St were very understanding, allowing me to travel back to Bristol free of charge.


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: PhilWakely on February 17, 2020, 07:25:05
I've been 'overcarried' three times...........
- once as a 9-year old (in 1965) going train spotting at Exeter St Davids. I caught the 07:51 from Pinhoe with the expectation of a change at Central to go down the hill as the 07:51 normally pulled into the bay platform at Central. On this occasion it came into the through platform and your truly got excited thinking I could stay on board and go on to St Davids. No on board announcement in those days. We ended up in the [now long gone] carriage sidings at Central and I had to stay there until the 10:05 Up local was brought back into the platform!

- going back to Bath University in the mid-70s with my moped, my train was late arriving into Bristol Temple Meads. I knew my train to Bath would be on Platform 3, so I made my way, quickly over to the platform, loaded my moped into the guards compartment and boarded the train. Only when we started going up the hill out of TM did I realise we were going via Badminton and next stop Swindon. Sheepishly approaching the guard, he gave me a pass back to Bath.

- only last year, boarding a train for Pinhoe at Central, I took up my usual seat in the rearmost vestibule of the six-coach train, which would be in line with the rear exit at Pinhoe. We arrived at Pinhoe only to discover the door would not open!, So onwards to Cranbrook and wait for the next train back. This was in the week following the decision by SWR to consider Pinhoe to be a short platform and only open the front three coaches. The guard had made an announcement, but the speakers in the rear coach were not working.


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: Reading General on February 17, 2020, 08:27:27
A friend of mine was overcarried in a railway connected situation. Several of us went to Fulham away with the Royals a few years back and after the game had a few pints around Hammersmith. The rest of us decided to leave the capital and head back to town while he saw some other lads he knew and stayed behind. That evening it was rail replacement from London to Reading after a particular time and he boarded a bus at Paddington heading home and dozed off, waking up in a yard, in the dark many hours later with absolutely no idea where he was! It turns out that this bus had been to Reading and back, passing the end of his road twice within metres of his front door, and unchecked parked up for the night. He had to scale a ten foot high fence onto a canal towpath with still no idea where in the country he was. Eventually he found a road sign and discovered he was in Acton in West London. He had to walk back to Paddington, wait for the first train and start the whole journey again, this time determined to stay awake. 


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: Marlburian on February 17, 2020, 08:32:53
In my years of commuting I was relatively lucky, only once nodding off and not getting off at Tilehurst. Ended up at Choseley, so was on a train back within 15 minutes. A Polish friend was not so fortunate when she was visiting me; she fell asleep, so didn't change trains at Reading and ended up in Taunton


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: PhilWakely on February 17, 2020, 08:39:19
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Oh, Mr Porter, what shall I do?
I want to go to Birmingham...
but they're taking me on to Crewe.
Take me back to London
as quickly as you can.
Oh, Mr Porter, what a silly *@!* I am!
George Le Brunn 1892


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: Surrey 455 on February 17, 2020, 22:21:52
I've been overcarried a few times. I normally would have got off at West Drayton but often would doze off and end up at the next stop, Iver.
One Friday night, must have been about 1 or 2 am I got to Paddington and waited for a train home to West Drayton. I saw a lot of people standing next to a Thames turbo train on Platform 2 I think. The doors were closed, the engine was off. The departure boards on the concourse and platform were on but not showing the next departures. But I knew this had to be my train so I waited for the doors to open and when they did I got on. Watching the scenery go by I watched with horror as we sailed through Ealing Broadway. I knew then that we would not be stopping at Hayes or West Drayton so I would have to get off at Slough. Except we didn't stop at Slough either. Eventually we arrived at Reading where I discovered that this was a very late running Thames Trains service on behalf of Great Western to Bristol. It was running so late it had disappeared off the departure board! In those days Thames used to run an overnight hourly or thereabouts stopping service to Reading. Great Western Trains would not normally be running at that time.
I had a long wait for a train home.


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: Robin Summerhill on February 17, 2020, 22:42:20
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Oh, Mr Porter, what a silly *@!* I am!
George Le Brunn 1892

The word you "bleeped out" from the original song was "girl."

I'm not sure that's politically correct these days... ;)


Title: Re: But all Newbury trains USED to stop at Theale!
Post by: TonyK on February 18, 2020, 19:55:19
Mods – given the way this thread has gone would it be a good idea to change the title to “Overcarriying and incorrect journeys” and move it to The Lighter Side?

Reading some of these tales reminds me of incidents when I was at Temple Meads in 1979 working the shifts round as ASM’s clerk.

There was the time when a tearful young woman came into the office with a ticket from New Street to Bicester – presumably somebody misheard what she asked them on the platform or misheard a manual announcement. We got her home via Banbury.

Then there was the occasion a one Saturday morning when the overnight trains to Devon and Cornwall were still running, when four men of Asian extraction and a poor command of English came bleary-eyed to the counter clutching Stockport to Euston tickets. They had clearly go on the wrong train at Stockport, and needed to get to Heathrow by 0730. The ASM explained to them that it was their fault because they got the wrong train, and we had nothing in those days that would get them anywhere near Heathrow by the time they needed to get there.

He suggested they take a taxi, but as a precaution to make sure they weren’t ripped off, he told me to go to the taxi driver’s rest room (now the small cafe on the right at the top of the approach on the Old Station side). Did you know what walking in there at 0500in the morning and saying “Will somebody give me a price for a Heathrow?” does? It would have probably woken ‘em up if rigour mortis had already set in...

Then there was the very aggressive bloke that stormed in one day. “Your bloody train didn’t stop at Bristol Parkway!” he ranted.” It stopped at bloody Chippenham, it stopped at bloody Bath, then went straight through bloody Bristol Parkway without stopping!”

He didn’t seem to be the sort of bloke you would want to put right in those circumstances... I often wondered if he noticed the scenery and station names were different as he went up the hill...



Edited to add - seven hours after I posted this I realised that I put it the wrong thread! Could someone move it to "All Newbury Trains used to stop at Theale" on the Kennet Valley board please?


I did rather enjoy it, Robin, so I've left the original where you first posted it until someone cleverer than me can shift it properly.



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