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All across the Great Western territory => Across the West => Topic started by: grahame on March 12, 2020, 22:17:05



Title: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: grahame on March 12, 2020, 22:17:05
If only there was just one piece of equipment

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/gwramps.jpg)


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: infoman on March 13, 2020, 07:00:21
Is it Reading or Oxford or one of the stations in between?


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: TaplowGreen on March 13, 2020, 07:36:31
Is ramp spotting a thing?  ;D


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: grahame on March 13, 2020, 07:50:09
Is ramp spotting a thing?  ;D

Dunno.  Planning a more mainstream "where's this daffodil picture" quiz over the weekend and I expect lots of members to have a go at that one.


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: rower40 on March 13, 2020, 08:25:27
That’s what I like about standards - there are so many to choose from.


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: Gordon the Blue Engine on March 13, 2020, 09:25:48
Is it Reading or Oxford or one of the stations in between?

I can confirm it's not Pangbourne.  I have a hunch it's, err..... , Truro.


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: TonyK on March 13, 2020, 09:56:35
The average is a very lonely place to be.


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: Bmblbzzz on March 13, 2020, 14:34:20
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png)


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: Bmblbzzz on March 13, 2020, 14:38:34
Is ramp spotting a thing?  ;D
Probably. I learned a few years ago that pylon spotting is a thing (while on a bike ride across the Wentlooge Levels, which is apparently a hot spot for pylon spotters due to the large number of different types there; no, I'm afraid I don't know offhand the best places for ramp spotting... )


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: Reading General on March 13, 2020, 15:30:56
Is it Reading or Oxford or one of the stations in between?

I can confirm it's not Pangbourne.  I have a hunch it's, err..... , Truro.
Truro in the future.


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: SandTEngineer on March 13, 2020, 16:26:12
No, your all wrong.  Its got to be Taunton........ :P


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: eightonedee on March 13, 2020, 18:55:59
As I don't have a hope in hell of getting any of the planters, I am going to take a clue from the photobomb thread and guess Penzance.

Was the ramp photo compensation for not being able to get a clear shot of the trains that they fitted?


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: grahame on March 13, 2020, 19:03:43
As I don't have a hope in hell of getting any of the planters, I am going to take a clue from the photobomb thread and guess Penzance.

Was the ramp photo compensation for not being able to get a clear shot of the trains that they fitted?

I think I was a bit obtuse ... liking Gordon the Blue Engine (to confirm that, yes, its Truro).  Selections of ramps can be found in various places across the area, but this set was especially well labelled!

I'm amazed that even four of the planters have been identified


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: plymothian on March 13, 2020, 20:18:11
Unfortunately no, not since the begining of this year where the accessibility regulations state that ramps must be secured to the train. 
Gone are the days where you could thrown any ramp down, now each has to be sized specifially to the width of the door and fit in to lugs in the step.
Initially there was 1 standard ramp, then a slightly wider but shorter one came along.  When the 220/221s arrived they had to have a special ramp that fitted the doors and blocked the auto-close, the IETs then had to have special ramps for the fold-away steps.  The 255s use the old HST ramp which now have lugs fitted, which leaves the units with the wider ramp but also converted with lugs.


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: TonyK on March 13, 2020, 21:35:58
Is this thread instead of Mornington Crescent on the wireless?


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: Bmblbzzz on March 14, 2020, 08:23:28
Mornington Ramparts?


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: smokey on March 14, 2020, 13:37:50
Must be Truro, it actually says gWr Truro on the right hand ramp.


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: Clan Line on March 14, 2020, 15:56:05
It could well be that all these ramps are actually "standardised"  ::) ::)

If the same logic is applied to these ramps as was applied to "standardise" mains electricity voltages across the EU then they all look the "same" to me. Mains voltages across the EU are all "standardised" at 230 Volts - but they're not..............they can be anywhere between 207 and 253 volts. So a "standardised" ramp could be described as being 2.3M in length but it could actually be anywhere between 2.07M and 2.53M in length. They may look different - but they really aren't.  Simples.....


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: Bmblbzzz on March 14, 2020, 16:18:38
Those voltages and frequencies are standardised, when tolerances are included, to the extent that an item running on the mains in Portugal will also run in Finland. It may need a differently shaped plug but the item itself will be fine. Electrons are internationally fungible, so to speak! If you consider the different classes of train to be equivalent to different plug designs, you could say the same is true of ramps; an IET ramp will work on any IET but not a Voyager, like a schuko will work with any schuko but not one of those weird Italian in-line jobs, etc. And just as with plugs and sockets, it might occasionally be possible to force one type of plug into a socket it's not supposed to fit (don't try this at home, kids! or on holiday or on the platform... )


Title: Re: Oh for a bit of standardisation
Post by: grahame on March 19, 2020, 06:40:35
Even at stations only served by GWR trains (at least since summer 2003) there are families of ramps ...

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/ramptrio.jpg)



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