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Journey by Journey => North Downs Line => Topic started by: grahame on April 10, 2020, 09:06:25 am



Title: Expansion plans for Reigate station
Post by: grahame on April 10, 2020, 09:06:25 am
From Bus and train user (https://busandtrainuser.com/2020/04/06/expansion-plans-for-reigate-station/)

Expansion plans for Reigate station- as part of Network Rail's Brighton Main line plans

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Reigate is currently restricted to only accommodating four car trains with passengers having the inconvenience of protracted journey times to and from Victoria as many trains have to split and join at Redhill. Direct trains between Reigate and London Bridge were severed in the great May 2018 Thameslink revolution when new links were added to Horsham from Three Bridges.

There are also power supply problems preventing more and longer trains running in the area, so the proposals include boosting the power too.

The plan involves a significant extension and widening of Platform 2 which is on the southern side of the station towards Guildford (where GWR trains continue on to Reading) and create a turn back siding for a 12-car train to terminate on the southern face of this, as a new Platform 3.

From a North Downs perspective, from reading this and thinking a bit, I ask ...

1. Does the current turn back on a through platform effect capacity of through (Reading to Redhill and Guildford) trains - will the extra platform help make the service more robust in due course when 3 trains per hour are running through?

2. Noting the article talking about a current limit of 4 car trains.  Does that men that 3+2 trains cannot run through, or does the comment purely relate to electric trains, where (perhaps) there may not be any 5 car sets around?


Title: Re: Expansion plans for Reigate station
Post by: RichardB on April 10, 2020, 12:48:20 pm
Looks to be all good stuff, Graham  Locals seem happy https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/reigate-station-set-third-platform-17721823

Not having to split and join at Redhill will certainly help there.


Title: Re: Expansion plans for Reigate station
Post by: stuving on April 10, 2020, 06:26:21 pm
From a North Downs perspective, from reading this and thinking a bit, I ask ...

1. Does the current turn back on a through platform effect capacity of through (Reading to Redhill and Guildford) trains - will the extra platform help make the service more robust in due course when 3 trains per hour are running through?

2. Noting the article talking about a current limit of 4 car trains.  Does that men that 3+2 trains cannot run through, or does the comment purely relate to electric trains, where (perhaps) there may not be any 5 car sets around?

This has been talked about for ages, but it does appear to be moving now - this consultation has just closed, but its web page is still here (https://consultations.networkrail.co.uk/communications/reigate-station/) (entitled "Connecting Reigate to Thameslink", in case you thought it was for anything else).

P2 is visibly not a lot shorter than P1, but its usable length is only 85 m against 171 m. Why, I'm not sure - it is rather narrow at the level crossing end, so maybe that's not considered usable. 85 is of course less than 5x23. Once extended, it could be very long indeed - well over 200 m of they want, and even if they don't edge it all passengers from the road will still have to walk its length.

Obviously there's no current requirement for it to be longer than 3x23 or 4x20 unless it can stretch to 8x20 - which it can't without removing the sidings access. That page does say:
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Lack of capacity

Platform 2 is used by both Southern Brighton Main Line services turning back at Reigate and Great Western Railway services travelling from Redhill to Reading on the North Downs Line. The arrangement means we can’t run more trains to meet demand and reliability is affected by knock-on delay between services.

While no doubt GWR running 3 tph will be easier to timetable after this upgrade, NR have never used it as an excuseexplanation for refusing to accept 3 tph.



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